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03-08-2009, 08:01 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/05/obama.pork/index.html

(CNN) -- As a spending bill loaded with pork makes its way through Congress, President Obama is getting pushback from members of his own party who are questioning his vow to end wasteful spending.


The Senate could vote on the spending bill as early as Thursday.

The president on Wednesday pledged turn tide on an "era of fiscal irresponsibility," reiterating his campaign promise that the days of "pork ... as a strategy" are over.

And in a prime-time address before a joint session of Congress, Obama last week praised the $787 billion stimulus package signed into law, telling the nation, "I'm proud that we passed a recovery plan free of earmarks, and I want to pass a budget next year that ensures that each dollar we spend reflects only our most important national priorities."

But some in the audience found that hard to swallow.

"There was just a roar of laughter -- because there were earmarks," said Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Missouri.

Earmarks, sometimes called "pork," are unrelated pet projects that members of Congress insert in spending bills.

The scoffing continues as the president hammers away at reducing wasteful spending and saving taxpayers money while lawmakers on Capitol Hill load up a spending bill with more than 8,000 earmarks totaling nearly $8 billion.

The legislation in question is a $410 billion omnibus bill that would keep the federal government running through the rest of the fiscal year, which ends in September 2009.

According to Taxpayers for Common Sense, a group that monitors government spending, the bill includes:


Nearly $1.8 million for pig odor research in Iowa


$950,000 for a convention center in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina


$143,000 for a natural history museum in Las Vegas


$238,000 for the Polynesian Voyaging Society in Hawaii

About 60 percent of the earmarks are from Democrats, and about 40 percent are from Republicans, according to Taxpayers for Common Sense.

Ryan Alexander, the president of the Taxpayers for Common Sense, pointed out that not all earmarks are bad.

"They're not always good or bad. What's bad is the process. We don't know why certain projects get earmark funds and why other projects don't. Some of them may be good. But that could be just as well by accident as it is by design, because we have no idea why these projects are funded and why other projects aren't," he said.

Earlier this week, 14 Democratic senators met to talk about their concerns with the spending. On Wednesday, Democratic Sens. Evan Bayh and Russ Feingold called on Obama to veto the bill.

"But the bloated omnibus requires sacrifice from no one, least of all the government. It only exacerbates the problem and hastens the day of reckoning," Bayh wrote in a Wall Street Journal editorial published Wednesday.

Democrats blocked amendments by Sens. John McCain, R-Arizona, and Tom Coburn, R-Oklahoma, that would have narrowed the spending on earmarks.

"So much for the promise of change. This may be -- in all the years I have been coming to this floor to complain about the earmark pork barrel corruption that this system has bred, this may be probably the worst, probably the worst," McCain said Tuesday.

The spending bill made it through the House last week. A vote in the Senate could come as early as Thursday, but it's unclear if there are the 60 votes necessary to sent it to the floor since some Democrats aren't supporting it.

Obama is expected to sign the bill when it reaches his desk.

But Democrats speaking out against the pork could just be flexing their muscles, said CNN contributor Roland Martin.

"I would love to see these same Democrats have the courage to actually stand up, look their fellow senators in the eye, Democrats and Republicans, and say, OK, let's get rid of your particular project," he said.

"What often happens in Congress is, they complain in terms of the general ... What I am saying is, call them out. Put it on the table," he said.

Those defending the earmarks say they make up just a small portion -- less than 1 percent -- of the overall bill.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-California, on Thursday defended congressional earmarks, despite calls from the White House earlier this week to reform the process.

"The legislatively initiated proposals in the appropriations bill, I think, are an appropriate function of Congress of the United States," Pelosi said.

But Pelosi said she does believe Congress should cut back on the number of earmarks.

Pelosi said after Congress finishes the $410 billion spending bill for this year, she planned to work with the Obama administration to find ways to reduce the number of earmarks in future spending bills.

The White House says this bill is just last year's unfinished business -- and next time, it will be different.


"We'll change the rules going forward," White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Wednesday when asked about the legislation.

Obama presented his budget summary to Congress last week, but the full details of his 2010 budget won't be available until April.

TheRunt
03-10-2009, 03:36 AM
He just want to wait until next year when he can be fully involved in it. Although how much more involved can you be when you were in the senate that drafted the bill?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/03/08/white-house-budget-chief-lays-earmarks/

Mabus
03-10-2009, 03:50 AM
He just want to wait until next year when he can be fully involved in it. Although how much more involved can you be when you were in the senate that drafted the bill?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/03/08/white-house-budget-chief-lays-earmarks/
With the veto power, how can they even suggest he is not involved? How much more involved can you be when you have the singular power of "Yes" or "No" in the decision?

But it will have to make it past the Senate first.

TheRunt
03-10-2009, 04:25 AM
With the veto power, how can they even suggest he is not involved? How much more involved can you be when you have the singular power of "Yes" or "No" in the decision?

But it will have to make it past the Senate first.

Sorry I should of put that first part in sarcasm italics. :sad:

Slider
03-11-2009, 01:39 AM
And it passed with a 62-35 vote, so it seems some of the senators complaining about all the waste where doing it for appearances sake only. Sadly, at this point I am fed up with the whole lot of them, Democrat and Republican both, they just keep fucking us over.

But, I think this was the funniest part of the story; And, to the embarrassment of Obama — who promised during last year's campaign to force Congress to curb its pork-barrel ways — the bill contains 7,991 earmarks totaling $5.5 billion, according to calculations by the Republican staff of the House Appropriations Committee.

But don't worry... He's just going to let it by "just this once"....

Obama will sign the measure Wednesday, the White House said, but he will also announce steps aimed at curbing lawmakers' penchant for pet projects.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29613324

Back
03-11-2009, 01:43 AM
People also question Republicans who ask for earmarks in this but vote against it. Just like the Republicans who said they were against the Stimulus but still took the money.

Mabus
03-11-2009, 04:02 AM
Sadly, at this point I am fed up with the whole lot of them, Democrat and Republican both, they just keep fucking us over.
QFT

Daniel
03-11-2009, 07:23 AM
Thank god we're not operating on a CR for the rest of the year. That woulda sucked majorly.

Suppa Hobbit Mage
03-11-2009, 07:33 AM
What does CR stand for?

Daniel
03-11-2009, 09:12 AM
Continuing resolution. It's what happns when you don't have a budget. We've been on one since oct since a budget wasn't passed last summer. It essentially means the gov has limited amounts of money to
Operate and can't do anything new or essential beyond what your base funding provides for. Our office has been running on money from this years defense authorization which put everything in a very precarious position as we aren't in the defense department.

Faent
03-11-2009, 09:52 AM
Sadly, at this point I am fed up with the whole lot of them, Democrat and Republican both, they just keep fucking us over.

What, did you expect better from a bunch of pigs?

Ignot
03-11-2009, 12:04 PM
Am I the only one interested in pig odor!?