new global order / new world order ? thoughts?

[Apotheosis]

ok.. we've heard about it from the loonies for oh, the past 20 years or so

soo.. are you in favor of it or not?

there are too many definitions out there, but some people posit that it would be...

a single global government/authority which usurps national sovereignty..


in other words, if this thing were to exist, we'd be a citizen of the planet earth, no longer a citizen of the USA..

bust out your tinfoil hats and vote!

[thefarmer]

Where's the "This is a stupid poll" option to vote?

[Apotheosis]

Where's the "This is a stupid poll" option to vote?

Hey, with Obama & Brown calling for things like "A New Global Deal", events like NAFTA, attempts by people in congress to make UN Treaties legally binding to US citizens, I think this is a valid topic.

I used to laugh at all the "crazy people" who were talking about this shit 10 - 12 years ago... but now the concept isn't that far fetched.

[BriarFox]

What the flying fuck. That's the vaguest poll I've ever seen.

Palin for a New World Order in 2012. That'll get her elected.


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[Apotheosis]

What the flying fuck. That's the vaguest poll I've ever seen.

Palin for a New World Order in 2012. That'll get her elected.


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What is the ambiguity of the question?

I would think anyone who's payed attention to politics over the past 20 years has heard those "Crazy people" on the left and right that claim there's a "conspiracy" to create a one world government.



What I'm asking is, if the issue came up, would you support a one world government or not.

that is all..

[Sylvan Dreams]

The anti-christ is coming, and with him shall come a New World Order. We will all bear the Mark of the Beast, etc, etc.

Why isn't ClydeR posting this?

[BriarFox]

What is the ambiguity of the question?

I would think anyone who's payed attention to politics over the past 20 years has heard those "Crazy people" on the left and right that claim there's a "conspiracy" to create a one world government.



What I'm asking is, if the issue came up, would you support a one world government or not.

that is all..

... the problem is the sheer and utter complexity of the idea. A unified planetary government? How would you work out representation, trade, leadership, currency, law (esp. for cultures with religious laws rather than civil laws) ... the list goes on and on and on and on.

[Apotheosis]

The anti-christ is coming, and with him shall come a New World Order. We will all bear the Mark of the Beast, etc, etc.

Why isn't ClydeR posting this?

dude, i'm not even talking mark-of-the-beast biblical type shit, because I believe that's ridiculous.

I would at least expect some comments regarding valid points that I've brought up....


I'm not even saying that I am against it....

[Mtenda]

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[Apotheosis]

yes... and then the robot underclass will rise and pwn humanity ala terminator or the matrix :-D

[Androidpk]

If there were any truth to the NWO conspiracy the Rothschilds would be involved i'm sure.

/tinfoil hat off

[Apotheosis]

If there were any truth to the NWO conspiracy the Rothschilds would be involved i'm sure.

/tinfoil hat off

don't forget the freemasons, the catholic church, the jesuits, the bilderbergs, all those "zionists", the skull & bones, council of foreign relations, trilateral commission....... who else am i leaving out of the conspiracy?

[Apotheosis]

http://www.reuters.com/article/usDollarRpt/idUSLJ93633020090319

China backs talks on dollar as reserve -Russian source


By Gleb Bryanski

MOSCOW, March 19 (Reuters) - China and other emerging nations back Russia's call for a discussion on how to replace the dollar as the world's primary reserve currency, a senior Russian government source said on Thursday. Russia has proposed the creation of a new reserve currency, to be issued by international financial institutions, among other measures in the text of its proposals to the April G20 summit published last Monday.

Calls for a rethink of the dollar's status as world's sole benchmark currency come amid concerns about its long-term value as the U.S. Federal Reserve moved to pump more than a trillion dollars of new cash into the ailing economy late Wednesday.

Russia met representatives of China, India and Brazil ahead of the G20 finance ministers meeting last week, as the big emerging powers seek to up their influence on decision making globally. Their first ever joint communique did not mention a new currency but the source said the issue was discussed.

"They (China) did not formally put forward their position for the G20 summit but unofficially they had distributed their paper regarding the same ideas (the need for the new currency)," the source told Reuters, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The source said the Chinese paper envisaged the International Monetary Fund's Special Drawing Rights (SDRs) being first assigned a role of a clearing currency on some transactions and then gradually becoming the main global reserve currency. "They said that the role of reserve currency should be given to SDR," the source said.

A U.N. panel of experts is also looking at using expanded SDRs, originally created by the International Monetary Fund in 1969, but now used mainly as an accounting unit within similar organizations as a new reserve currency instead of the dollar.

Currency specialist Avinash Persaud, a member of the U.N. panel, told a Reuters Funds Summit on Wednesday that the proposal was to create something like the old Ecu, or European currency unit, that was a hard-traded, weighted basket.

The SDR and the old Ecu are essentially combination's of currencies, weighted to a constituent's economic clout, which can be valued against other currencies and against those inside the basket.

The Russian source said Moscow was aware that the emergence of the new global currency would not happen overnight and said its goal was to initiate a discussion about it at the G20 summit in London on April 2.

The source said that India did not object to the discussion but was not prepared to take the lead. The source said South Korea and South Africa backed the idea, while developed nations were not "allergic" to it.

"We are not waiting for everyone to say: 'How beautifully it has all been formulated, let's subscribe to it'," the source said. "The main idea is to start a discussion about it."

Russia holds about half of its reserves, the world's third-largest, in dollars, with the rest in euros and pounds. Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has called on reserve currency issuers to show more financial discipline.

Finance Minister Alexei Kudrin told reporters on the sidelines of the G20 finance ministers meeting that it would take up to 30 years to create a new super-currency, suggesting there was no unity in Russia on the issue.

President Dmitry Medvedev's top economic aide and G20 sherpa Arkady Dvorkovich is behind the Kremlin's G20 proposals, made public one day after Kudrin returned from England. (Reporting by Gleb Bryanski; editing by Mike Dolan/Patrick Graham)



well.. in any case.. it makes sense... the American dollar's value is plummeting/on the precipice, and they're trying to figure out how to get the hell out of it..

[Methais]

ok.. we've heard about it from the loonies for oh, the past 20 years or so

soo.. are you in favor of it or not?

there are too many definitions out there, but some people posit that it would be...

a single global government/authority which usurps national sovereignty..


in other words, if this thing were to exist, we'd be a citizen of the planet earth, no longer a citizen of the USA..

bust out your tinfoil hats and vote!

This won't be necessary until aliens show up and make themselves overtly known to everyone.

[Clove]

The Rothschilds and Rockefellers have those alien bitches well in hand...

http://groups.google.com/group/total_truth_sciences/browse_thread/thread/32ecdd6b51a791d5