Obama Surrenders Sovereignty to the UN

[ClydeR]

When Bush was still President, we didn't kowtow to the fashionable liberal whims of foreign governments. Obama is reversing that policy.

Late last year when Bush was still President, the UN held a symbolic vote calling for the decriminalization of consensual sodomy. President Bush and the United States stood shoulder to shoulder with two others (the Holy See and the Organization of the Islamic Conference) in blocking the measure.

But no more. Now Obama has us voting in favor (http://www.undispatch.com/node/7729) of the symbolic resolution, joining the likes of the EU, South American states and other countries.

You may think this is a small matter, but think about what it could lead to when Obama starts ceding our sovereignty on other issues. Think, just think.

[Mathari]

When Bush was still President, we didn't kowtow to the fashionable liberal whims of foreign governments. Obama is reversing that policy . . .

You may think this is a small matter, but think about what it could lead to when Obama starts ceding our sovereignty on other issues. Think, just think.
I don't think you're real and, generally, your posting on these boards is a bit of a nuisance, but -- against my better judgment -- I'll respond. What exactly is your evidence that this reversal constitutes "kowtowing" to the "whims of foreign governments," as opposed to, say, a representation of Obama's own independently-formed views on the issue? I don't see any. That being so, I also don't see any evidence that this is a ceding of sovereignty; it could simply be that the elected President of the US chose for his own reasons to express his opinion to the "international community," and chose this as an appropriate opportunity to do so.

[TheRunt]

a representation of Obama's own independently-formed views on the issue

Obama likes buttsex along with fisting? Damn he's kinkier than I thought.:rofl:

[ClydeR]

What exactly is your evidence that this reversal constitutes "kowtowing" to the "whims of foreign governments," as opposed to, say, a representation of Obama's own independently-formed views on the issue? I don't see any. That being so, I also don't see any evidence that this is a ceding of sovereignty; it could simply be that the elected President of the US chose for his own reasons to express his opinion to the "international community," and chose this as an appropriate opportunity to do so.

Well said. Until I read that, I was starting to think that no one here, other than me of course, was capable of articulately expressing an opinion. Just from reading from those few sentences, I can tell that you are head and shoulders above the average poster here.

I'm going to throw in the towel on this one. It's possible that I jumped to the wrong conclusion. You're probably right that Obama genuinely believed the UN resolution was a good one. The perennial concern of conservatives is that the United States will, bit by bit, allow a world government to take over our affairs. Inch/mile.

[Apotheosis]

Clearly, that's the point... it's one thing to sign "resolutions of agreement / disagreement" but... it doesn't sound like a legally binding agreement..

clearly, anti-sodomy laws are discriminatory in nature and should be done away with if they exist anyway... HOWEVER... I still believe if a state/county/whatever wishes to vote a way on a particular issue, however stupid or in disagreement with Federal Law, that is the right of the people)

Federal Law vs. State Law.. that's what it all boils down to, IMHO...

so.. like.. some state's medicinal marijuana use is legal, however, federal law still supersedes in this matter... that's bullshit and the Fed needs to step outta the way...

HOWEVER.. if a state wishes to, say, amend the constitution to define marriage as between a man and a woman... no matter how I may or may not disagree with that issue, the voters have the right..


In other words... if a UN resolution legalizing pedophilia or forcing people to wear the color "blue" on Thursdays is "Accepted" and the resolution is found to be "legally binding" to the entire united states.... it's time to get out the pitchforks and torches..

[Xanator]

so.. like.. some state's medicinal marijuana use is legal, however, federal law still supersedes in this matter... that's bullshit and the Fed needs to step outta the way...

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[Apotheosis]

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b211/twistinside08/republican2.gif

i'm just for smaller government....

[Stanley Burrell]

You guys:

This is a very serious thread because ClydeR used the angry-face emoticon as a thread header to express some unbelievably important issues. Let's keep it that way.

[Apotheosis]

You guys:

This is a very serious thread because ClydeR used the angry-face emoticon as a thread header to express some unbelievably important issues. Let's keep it that way.

yeah really.. apparently abolishing teh butts3x0r is t3h 3nd of the world.. lolz

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

yeah really.. apparently abolishing teh butts3x0r is t3h 3nd of the world.. lolz

Sodomy isn't always legally defined as just anal-- some states have anti-sodomy laws that include oral and fucking in positions other than missionary. So if your girl goes down on you before you bend her over the side of the couch and screw her, you could be breaking the law depending on the state you're in.

That being said, I don't know when anyone was ever brought to jail for suspicion of boning in reverse cowgirl or whatever.

[Xanator]

Sodomy isn't always legally defined as just anal-- some states have anti-sodomy laws that include oral and fucking in positions other than missionary. So if your girl goes down on you before you bend her over the side of the couch and screw her, you could be breaking the law depending on the state you're in.

That being said, I don't know when anyone was ever brought to jail for suspicion of boning in reverse cowgirl or whatever.

You're not a narc, are you? I don't know what any of this even means.

[Back]

ClydeR is making the subtle joke that Obama consensually bent over for the liberals and the UN.

[Ravenstorm]

In honor of Obama and the UN. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzwGfP98vGM)

[Faent]

ClydeR is pointing out (the obvious), namely that the U.S. is, under Obama, taking some token steps to try and stop looking like the trailer park of the world.

[Parkbandit]

ClydeR is pointing out (the obvious), namely that the U.S. is, under Obama, taking some token steps to try and stop looking like the trailer park of the world.

Yes, yes Faent.. the US looks like a trailer park to the rest of the world.

Seriously.. you should try reality. It's sometimes just as much fun as Imaginationland you reside in.

[TheRunt]

This is a very serious thread because ClydeR used the angry-face emoticon as a thread header to express some unbelievably important issues. Let's keep it that way.

Okay I'll try to keep it serious well halfway at least.



President Bush and the United States stood shoulder to shoulder with two others (the Holy See and the Organization of the Islamic Conference) in blocking the measure.

Two others?
"The United States refused to support the nonbinding measure, as did Russia, China, the Roman Catholic Church and members of the Organization of the Islamic Conference"

That lists more than 2 And there are 192 countries which are members of the U.N.

"An unprecedented declaration seeking to decriminalize homosexuality won the support of 66 countries in the United Nations General Assembly"

So right about
1/3 of the countries supported it.

"The declaration, sponsored by France"
Fuck France.


Sodomy isn't always legally defined as just anal-- some states have anti-sodomy laws that include oral and fucking in positions other than missionary.

Virtually all of them have been found to be unconstitutional.


In honor of Obama and the UN. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzwGfP98vGM)

:rofl:

And the reason that the U.S. did not support the resolution under Bush was this.

"The official American position was based on highly technical legal grounds. The text, by using terminology like “without distinction of any kind,” was too broad because it might be interpreted as an attempt by the federal government to override states’ rights on issues like gay marriage, American diplomats and legal experts said.

“We are opposed to any discrimination, legally or politically, but the nature of our federal system prevents us from undertaking commitments and engagements where federal authorities don’t have jurisdiction,” said Alejandro D. Wolff, the deputy permanent representative. "

[ClydeR]

In honor of Obama and the UN. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzwGfP98vGM)

That reminds me that I've been meaning to write a post about how Broadway is ruining America.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

Virtually all of them have been found to be unconstitutional.


Hence my comment that I can't recall ever hearing of a time anyone was dragged to jail for doing it doggy-style.

[Methais]

When Bush was still President, we didn't kowtow to the fashionable liberal whims of foreign governments. Obama is reversing that policy.

Late last year when Bush was still President, the UN held a symbolic vote calling for the decriminalization of consensual sodomy. President Bush and the United States stood shoulder to shoulder with two others (the Holy See and the Organization of the Islamic Conference) in blocking the measure.

But no more. Now Obama has us voting in favor (http://www.undispatch.com/node/7729) of the symbolic resolution, joining the likes of the EU, South American states and other countries.

You may think this is a small matter, but think about what it could lead to when Obama starts ceding our sovereignty on other issues. Think, just think.

Is the UN really spending their time discussing whether people can legally fuck each other in the ass?

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[Parkbandit]

Is the UN really spending their time discussing whether people can legally fuck each other in the ass?

http://i35.tinypic.com/2rpz4a1.jpg

It's an issue that is very important to ClydeR/Ravenstorm and you are just being homophobic for making light of it.

[Ravenstorm]

It's an issue that is very important to ClydeR/Ravenstorm and you are just being homophobic for making light of it.

Small, unimaginative minds refuse to let go a joke long after it's ceased to be amusing. Go hump Daniel's leg some more.

[Parkbandit]

Small, unimaginative minds refuse to let go a joke long after it's ceased to be amusing. Go hump Daniel's leg some more.


I agree.. yet you continue to post as ClydeR.

Also.. humping guys is far more your cup of tea.. not mine.

[ClydeR]

I agree.. yet you continue to post as ClydeR.

I've posted several times before that I only have one screen name, and I have never posted under any name other than ClydeR. Although I enjoy reading Ravenstorm's crazy far left posts, I do not know him or her.

[TheRunt]

This really belongs in the response to reputation thread but oh well

Obama Surrenders... 02-21-2009 12:20 PM lol wut?


http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/e6c27a38e8/barack-and-michelle-obama-fisting