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Back
02-07-2009, 12:04 PM
New R.N.C. Chairman Hands Out Pink Slips (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/06/new-rnc-chairman-hands-out-pick-slips/)


In a sign that newly-elected Republican National Committee chairman, Michael Steele, plans to put his own stamp on the G.O.P., he has asked for the resignations of most of the committee staff and plans to bring in his own team of advisers, Republican officials said.


Interesting choice for a new RNC chairman. Looks like he is bringing some change to the RNC.

TheEschaton
02-07-2009, 01:20 PM
Michael Steele is a moron, and if you weren't so enamored by the fact that he's black, Back, you'd realize he's the same old, same old kind of idiot the Republicans always have in charge over at the RNC. He's more neocon than most.

Back
02-07-2009, 05:35 PM
He’s black???


Just kidding. I know he is black. Will people level the same kind of criticism on him that they put on Obama because of his skin color? Do all the race-card comments apply to Steele as well?

Gan
02-07-2009, 06:10 PM
Like the practice of bringing all of your own people on board when you become the leader of an organization is a new practice...

I'm not impressed.

Parkbandit
02-07-2009, 06:32 PM
He’s black???


Just kidding. I know he is black. Will people level the same kind of criticism on him that they put on Obama because of his skin color? Do all the race-card comments apply to Steele as well?


You mean like:

It's a historic time!

He will be a racial healer

He's is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.

He's going to be the greatest RNC Chairman of all time.

He's the change we need!

He's looking to the future.

Back
02-07-2009, 07:03 PM
You mean like:

It's a historic time!

He will be a racial healer

He's is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.

He's going to be the greatest RNC Chairman of all time.

He's the change we need!

He's looking to the future.

You forgot the second coming of Christ.

I think he is a great pick for the RNC. For the conservative republican party, that is.

Parkbandit
02-07-2009, 07:24 PM
You forgot the second coming of Christ.

I think he is a great pick for the RNC. For the conservative republican party, that is.


It would be the third coming actually.. unless you don't believe in the original.

ClydeR
02-07-2009, 07:55 PM
Will people level the same kind of criticism on him that they put on Obama because of his skin color? Do all the race-card comments apply to Steele as well?

Oh, they've already started, Back. They've already started, even back when he was running for governor.


Oreo cookie incident

After a September 26, 2002 gubernatorial debate, which had occurred without reported incident, Paul Schurick, Ehrlich's communications manager, claimed that the Townsend campaign handed out Oreo cookies to the audience.[15] Five days after the debate, Steele said that one or more Oreo cookies had rolled to his feet during the debate suggesting a racist statement against him, that of being black on the outside and white on the inside like an Oreo. "Maybe it was just someone having their snack, but it was there," Steele said. "If it happened, shame on them if they are that immature and that threatened by me." At the time of the debate, Schurick had not mentioned any such incident, but in November 2005 he claimed "It was raining Oreos... They were thick in the air like locusts. I was there. It was very real. It wasn't subtle."[16] In a November 2005 Hannity and Colmes appearance, Steele agreed with Hannity that cookies were thrown at him.[17] Neil Duke of the Baltimore NAACP, who moderated the debate, praised the "passionate audience" and noted their "derisive behavior"[15] but did not see such behavior. "Were there some goofballs sitting in [the] right-hand corner section tossing cookies amongst themselves and acting like sophomores, as the legend has it?" Duke said. "I have no reason to doubt those sources; I just didn't see it."[16][18][19] The operations manager of the building where the debate was held, interviewed three years after the event by The Baltimore Sun, disputed Steele's claim and said "I was in on the cleanup, and we found no cookies or anything else abnormal. There were no Oreo cookies thrown."[16] Some eyewitnesses including AP reporter Tom Stuckey who was at the event have said cookies were handed out.[20] Other eyewitnesses could not corroborate Steele and Schurick's claim.[21][22]

More... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_S._Steele#Oreo_cookie_incident)

Oreos as thick in the air as locusts.

Back
02-07-2009, 08:00 PM
Oh, they've already started, Back. They've already started, even back when he was running for governor.



Oreos as thick in the air as locusts.


Other eyewitnesses could not corroborate Steele and Schurick's claim.

Thats fucked up if it’s true.

Otherwise, aren’t you happy with your party’s pick of the head of the RNC?

Back
02-07-2009, 08:15 PM
It would be the third coming actually.. unless you don't believe in the original.

I lol’ed.

Good one.

Tsa`ah
02-08-2009, 12:02 PM
I think it's going to be hard for the general public (those that follow politics) to really look at this as something other than a gimic that rivals the selection of Palin.

We'll probably see similar moves made throughout the hierarchy of the GOP in the coming years in an effort to put a different face on the same old same old. It may work, but the impact will be minimal unless they actually return to the core "conservative" values ... you know, those values of fiscal conservatism, small government, efficient use of tax dollars and who the fuck cares what church (if any) you go to and who really gives a shit about what you do in your bedroom (let alone who).

Steele is gaff prone and Clintonesque in his recollection of past events. He's likely to take umbrage with anything he perceives as "racist", even if racism isn't present (see Burris). Though it's going to amusing to hear Rush try to dance around the topic.

ClydeR
02-08-2009, 03:46 PM
Thats fucked up if it’s true.

Those people who accuse him of exaggerating to play the race card don't know what they're talking about. There's noting more insulting you can do to a black person than let him see an Oreo cookie. It's understandable that Steele was indignant. He behaved completely appropriately.


Otherwise, aren’t you happy with your party’s pick of the head of the RNC?

I couldn't be happier. You aren't going to see any scandals -- not a single one -- with the choice of Steele, unlike some of the new president's recent nominees.

Parkbandit
02-08-2009, 03:49 PM
I think it's going to be hard for the general public (those that follow politics) to really look at this as something other than a gimic that rivals the selection of Palin.

We'll probably see similar moves made throughout the hierarchy of the GOP in the coming years in an effort to put a different face on the same old same old. It may work, but the impact will be minimal unless they actually return to the core "conservative" values ... you know, those values of fiscal conservatism, small government, efficient use of tax dollars and who the fuck cares what church (if any) you go to and who really gives a shit about what you do in your bedroom (let alone who).

Steele is gaff prone and Clintonesque in his recollection of past events. He's likely to take umbrage with anything he perceives as "racist", even if racism isn't present (see Burris). Though it's going to amusing to hear Rush try to dance around the topic.

LOL

Steele is a gimmick, but Obama is the real deal. Check.

Steele is gaff prone, but Biden is just misunderstood. Check.

It's far more amusing to hear you try to dance around it.

Back
02-08-2009, 06:11 PM
There's noting more insulting you can do to a black person than let him see an Oreo cookie.

rofl. That was actually quite funny.


I think it's going to be hard for the general public (those that follow politics) to really look at this as something other than a gimic that rivals the selection of Palin.

We'll probably see similar moves made throughout the hierarchy of the GOP in the coming years in an effort to put a different face on the same old same old. It may work, but the impact will be minimal unless they actually return to the core "conservative" values ... you know, those values of fiscal conservatism, small government, efficient use of tax dollars and who the fuck cares what church (if any) you go to and who really gives a shit about what you do in your bedroom (let alone who).

Steele is gaff prone and Clintonesque in his recollection of past events. He's likely to take umbrage with anything he perceives as "racist", even if racism isn't present (see Burris). Though it's going to amusing to hear Rush try to dance around the topic.


LOL

Steele is a gimmick, but Obama is the real deal. Check.

Steele is gaff prone, but Biden is just misunderstood. Check.

It's far more amusing to hear you try to dance around it.

And here we hit the double-edged sword of it all. People like PB, Rush Limbaugh and the others will have to pipe down their race card rhetoric so they don’t come off as blatantly hypocritical.

Parkbandit
02-08-2009, 06:17 PM
rofl. That was actually quite funny.





And here we hit the double-edged sword of it all. People like PB, Rush Limbaugh and the others will have to pipe down their race card rhetoric so they don’t come off as blatantly hypocritical.

Excuse me? You calling ANYONE ELSE ON THE FUCKING PLANET a hypocrite is a fucking joke. Seriously Backlash.. isn't it time for you to have yet another meltdown?

Back
02-08-2009, 06:19 PM
Excuse me? You calling ANYONE ELSE ON THE FUCKING PLANET a hypocrite is a fucking joke. Seriously Backlash.. isn't it time for you to have yet another meltdown?

/meltdown

Gan
02-08-2009, 06:51 PM
Excuse me? You calling ANYONE ELSE ON THE FUCKING PLANET a hypocrite is a fucking joke. Seriously Backlash.. isn't it time for you to have yet another meltdown?

:lol:

TheEschaton
02-08-2009, 08:13 PM
Steele is no gimmick, he's hardcore neocon. But he's irrelevant, as the GOP is largely irrelevant, until/unless Mr. Steele brings them back from the brink.

Back != valid liberal thought. He wants to be avant garde but really just succeeds in being a new age douchebag.

-TheE-

Parkbandit
02-08-2009, 08:30 PM
Steele is no gimmick, he's hardcore neocon. But he's irrelevant, as the GOP is largely irrelevant, until/unless Mr. Steele brings them back from the brink.

Back != valid liberal thought. He wants to be avant garde but really just succeeds in being a new age douchebag.

-TheE-


:rofl:

The GOP has always been largely irrelevant to you.. nothing has changed. Much like liberalism and socialism is largely irrelevant to me.

Back
02-08-2009, 09:02 PM
Steele is no gimmick, he's hardcore neocon. But he's irrelevant, as the GOP is largely irrelevant, until/unless Mr. Steele brings them back from the brink.

A hardcore neocon will not bring the GOP more center like they really need to be.

Parkbandit
02-09-2009, 12:22 AM
A hardcore neocon will not bring the GOP more center like they really need to be.

Says the hard left lunatic. Perhaps a flaming liberal isn't the best judge of where the GOP should or shouldn't need to be?

Daniel
02-09-2009, 07:07 AM
Says the hard left lunatic. Perhaps a flaming liberal isn't the best judge of where the GOP should or shouldn't need to be?

Maybe not, but I'd say opinion polls and political clout should.

The RNC is becoming increasingly marginalized in America today and if you think going more stupid is the answer then...more power to you.

Parkbandit
02-09-2009, 10:18 AM
Maybe not, but I'd say opinion polls and political clout should.

The RNC is becoming increasingly marginalized in America today and if you think going more stupid is the answer then...more power to you.


This was the same logic the GOP used in 1994 when it appeared that the DNC was becoming increasingly marginalized in America... which was dumb then and dumber today.

Daniel
02-09-2009, 11:46 AM
This was the same logic the GOP used in 1994 when it appeared that the DNC was becoming increasingly marginalized in America... which was dumb then and dumber today.

Last time I checked, the GOP did pretty well in 1994. 2008? Not so much.

So...I really don't know what you are trying to say here. The DNC has adapted it's platform with the times and have come up with a message that resonates with the people. The same thing the Republicans did in 1994. If you're suggesting that I'm foreshadowing some sort of DNC hubris then you'll have to go back to the drawing board.

I couldn't care less, as the GOP seriously needs to re-evaluate itself right now and if they don't they are screwed. If you want to argue that point, then I wish you the best of luck with that.

Tsa`ah
02-09-2009, 12:48 PM
LOL

Steele is a gimmick, but Obama is the real deal. Check.

Obama entered into a race he wasn't supposed to win ... especially against the heir apparent for the Dems. He won the party nomination via open, semi-open and closed primaries. He then went on to win the general election. The aforementioned achievements were the will of the people ... not the party. So yes, Obama is the real deal.

Steele attained the top GOP seat through the will of the party ... not the will of registered republicans. Despite the E's protests to the contrary, though yes he's a hardcore neocon, he's still a gimmick of the same magnitude and order of Palin. It's an attempt to put a different face on the same old party with the same old politics.


Steele is gaff prone, but Biden is just misunderstood. Check.

Wow ... you sure do read much more than is actually there. Biden is also gaffe prone, where exactly did I suggest otherwise?


It's far more amusing to hear you try to dance around it.

I dance around nothing. My statements were straight forward and lacked any sort of the inference you attempted to spin.

Back
02-09-2009, 01:24 PM
Says the hard left lunatic. Perhaps a flaming liberal isn't the best judge of where the GOP should or shouldn't need to be?

Heh. Just like your opinion and commentary on Dems? But as always you are more interested in a pissing match and marginalizing people with whom you disagree than actually discussing an issue.

Gan
02-09-2009, 02:57 PM
Heh. Just like your opinion and commentary on Dems? But as always you are more interested in a pissing match and marginalizing people with whom you disagree than actually discussing an issue.

As if you could be marginalized anymore than you already are...

Parkbandit
02-09-2009, 03:13 PM
Last time I checked, the GOP did pretty well in 1994. 2008? Not so much.

Seriously, did you need me to explain it to you? Because from your response, the logic failed you. Like epic failed.



So...I really don't know what you are trying to say here.
The DNC has adapted it's platform with the times and have come up with a message that resonates with the people. The same thing the Republicans did in 1994. If you're suggesting that I'm foreshadowing some sort of DNC hubris then you'll have to go back to the drawing board.

They did? What platform did they run on that they don't always run on? Was it the "HOPE" or was it the "CHANGE"? Obama ran a masterful campaign of saying a lot about absolutely nothing. His most successful campaign platform was "I'm not Bush". He took a basic GOP talking point of lowering taxes and fixing the economy and pretended that he was going to do it. He was able to blame the current economy all upon the Bush Administration and the ignorance of America and the love affair from the media took over for him.

Make no mistake.. Obama's extreme liberal agenda would have never had a chance if it weren't for the unpopularity of Bush.



I couldn't care less, as the GOP seriously needs to re-evaluate itself right now and if they don't they are screwed. If you want to argue that point, then I wish you the best of luck with that.

I don't disagree.. but there are far too many fat cat Republicans that don't want that to happen. You can't attain real power by making government smaller.

Parkbandit
02-09-2009, 03:15 PM
Heh. Just like your opinion and commentary on Dems? But as always you are more interested in a pissing match and marginalizing people with whom you disagree than actually discussing an issue.


Which issue did you exactly address here?

Back
02-09-2009, 05:54 PM
Which issue did you exactly address here?

The new RNC chairman Michael Steele and how he is cleaning house. Up there in the first post.

I think he is a great choice.

Since you think of me as some kind of Che Guevara revolutionary aren’t you skurd?

Keller
02-09-2009, 06:15 PM
He took a basic GOP talking point of lowering taxes and fixing the economy and pretended that he was going to do it. . . . .

Obama's extreme liberal agenda would have never had a chance if it weren't for the unpopularity of Bush.


I think you'll need to draw me a picture on this one.

Say what?

Parkbandit
02-09-2009, 06:43 PM
The new RNC chairman Michael Steele and how he is cleaning house. Up there in the first post.

I think he is a great choice.

Since you think of me as some kind of Che Guevara revolutionary aren’t you skurd?

No, with the post I quoted dumbass.

And I don't think of you as some kind of Che Guevara.. I think of you as some loser on the internet that no one is scared of.

Back
02-09-2009, 07:32 PM
I think of you as some loser on the internet that no one is scared of.

No one should be. But this thread is not about me. You can try to deflect the topic to be about me and I am always flattered when that happens because I think me is pretty cool and I am an attention slut.

But this is about Steele and what people think about him leading the RNC and clearing the books. In specific... what dyed in the wool republicans, like yourself, think about it.

Parkbandit
02-09-2009, 08:37 PM
No one should be. But this thread is not about me. You can try to deflect the topic to be about me and I am always flattered when that happens because I think me is pretty cool and I am an attention slut.

But this is about Steele and what people think about him leading the RNC and clearing the books. In specific... what dyed in the wool republicans, like yourself, think about it.

Awesome.. because from your post:




Since you think of me as some kind of Che Guevara revolutionary aren’t you skurd?

you made it sound like it was about you. I guess then, since you are not a dyed in the wool republican, we won't be hearing from you again in this thread? Because that would be the best news I heard today.

Back
02-09-2009, 09:53 PM
I guess then, since you are not a dyed in the wool republican, we won't be hearing from you again in this thread? Because that would be the best news I heard today.

If you keep addressing me, and not the topic, thats a possibility. I’ve stated my opinion.

Why are you avoiding the topic?

Daniel
02-09-2009, 10:05 PM
I think you'll need to draw me a picture on this one.

Say what?

Yea. I honestly don't know what the fuck he's talking about. If he seriously believes that Obama brought nothing new to the table then he's retarded. But then again, that's been established before.

Rocktar
02-10-2009, 05:02 AM
Obama=Same ole Liberal/Marxist/Socialist manure, new stylish package.

ClydeR
02-20-2009, 10:23 AM
In addition to firing a lot of folks, Chairman Steele is also planning to bring a new flavor to the Republican Party.


New GOP party chief Michael Steele is promising an "off the hook" public relations blitz into "urban-suburban hip-hop settings" in hopes of wooing Latinos and African-Americans.

Steele, the first African-American Republican boss, hopes to sign up Americans of all stripes - a point he underscored with an odd, politically incorrect jab.

"We need to uptick our image with everyone, including one-armed midgets," he joked.

Not everyone was laughing, much less taking seriously the notion that a PR blitz is all that's needed to bring blacks and Hispanics into the increasingly white GOP tent.

More... (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/02/19/2009-02-19_gop_head_michael_steele_promises_pr_blit.html)

That could definitely work.

Rocktar
02-20-2009, 01:24 PM
Chocolate Chunk Cherry Vanilla with Walnuts?