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Clove
01-22-2009, 10:25 AM
Obama Fixes Gaze On National Security
Orders To Close Gitmo Expected; Meetings Planned With Military Advisers And State Dept.

(CBS/AP) President Barack Obama is expected to focus on national security policy Thursday, with executive orders to close the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, review military trials of terror suspects and end harsh interrogations, a government official said. He also appears ready to name a veteran politician as his special Mideast envoy.

A senior Obama administration official said the president would sign an order to shutter the Guantanamo prison within one year. Critics around the world say the U.S. naval facility violates U.S. and international detainee rights. The aide spoke on condition of anonymity because the order has not yet been issued.

A draft copy of the order, obtained Wednesday by The Associated Press, notes that "in view of significant concerns raised by these detentions, both within the United States and internationally, prompt and appropriate disposition of the individuals currently detained at Guantanamo and closure of the facility would further the national security and foreign policy interests of the United States and the interests of justice."

The executive order was one of three expected on how to interrogate and prosecute al Qaeda, Taliban or other foreign fighters believed to threaten the United States. The administration already has suspended trials for terrorist suspects at Guantanamo for 120 days pending a review of the military tribunals. An estimated 245 men are being held at the U.S. naval base in Cuba, most of whom have been detained for years without being charged with a crime.

Mr. Obama also had in hand executive orders to review military trials of terror suspects and end harsh interrogations, a key part of aides' plans that had been assembled even before Mr. Obama won the election on Nov. 4.

On Thursday, Mr. Obama was visiting the State Department to meet with Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, who was easily confirmed by the Senate Wednesday, and his top national security advisers to round out a day focused on restoring the U.S. image abroad by making a clean break with some of the Bush administration's most controversial national security policies.

White House aides announced that the president would meet with retired military officers about the executive orders in the morning, but would not confirm that Mr. Obama planned to sign them immediately.

The Obama-Clinton meeting also was to include Vice President Joe Biden and national security adviser Jim Jones and his deputy. It was to be followed by an address by Mr. Obama and Clinton to department employees.

The address could provide an opening for Mr. Obama to enter the daunting thicket of Middle East diplomacy, long dodged by deferring to President George W. Bush, who left office Tuesday.

It could also be the time he announces George Mitchell, the former Senate Democratic leader, as his special Mideast envoy. Mitchell, 75, will return to a role he pursued during President Bill Clinton's presidency when the former senator took on several difficult diplomatic assignments, including chairing peace talks on Northern Ireland.

Mitchell also led an international commission to investigate violence in the Middle East. His report, issued in spring 2001, after Clinton had left office, called for a freeze on Israeli settlements on the West Bank and a Palestinian crackdown on terrorism.

Mr. Obama has vowed to move swiftly to meet challenges in the Middle East and other troubled overseas regions.

On his first full day in office, Mr. Obama made telephone calls Wednesday to Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, Jordan's King Abdullah and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said.

Mr. Obama emphasized that he would work to consolidate the cease-fire between Israel and Hamas in Gaza, Gibbs said.

"He used this opportunity on his first day in office to communicate his commitment to active engagement in pursuit of Arab-Israeli peace from the beginning of his term, and to express his hope for their continued cooperation and leadership," Gibbs said.


(Pete Souza)During his two-month stint as the president-elect, Mr. Obama promised he would have plenty to say on the Mideast conflict as soon as he was in office, but the country could only have one foreign policy voice at a time.

Mr. Obama was starting his day Thursday with a private meeting on the nation's struggling economy, a signal to the millions of Americans struggling with tighter credit, increasing home foreclosures and the dollar's shrinking value.

Mr. Obama's plan to award a $500 tax credit to most workers is expected to advance through a key House panel today.

Democrats are preparing his $825 billion economic recovery plan for a floor vote next week.

Plans to extend and boost unemployment benefits, give states $87 billion to deal with Medicaid shortfalls and help unemployed people retain health care will also advance.

Republicans are turning against Mr. Obama's economic stimulus program, despite promises by both Mr. Obama and Capitol Hill Republicans to work together.

At the same time, Timothy Geithner, Mr. Obama's nominee to become treasury secretary, was expected to win approval by the Senate Finance Committee today, despite acknowledging "careless mistakes" in failing to pay $34,000 in payroll taxes. His confirmation by the full Senate is expected soon.

And signs point a Wall Street jittery about the prospect of the U.S. nationalizing banks, reports CBS News correspondent Priya David.

"We're moving towards a situation where the government is kind of quietly nationalizing these banks anyway," Stephen Gandel, senior editor at Time, told CBS News. "We're putting 20 billion in here 20 billion in there, eventually we own the bank. The government is already the largest shareholder in Citibank, in fact you can already say that we've kind of nationalized Citibank, but the difference is we're not running it."

But few economists feel the government has the desire or the ability to run the nation's banks.

"Just because you put the banks in the hands of government doesn't necessarily mean that they're going to make better loans," NYU economist Ann Lee told CBS News.

Some of Mr. Obama's other promises already were being implemented on his first full day in office. On Wednesday, he signed executive orders to limit his staff's ability to leave the administration to lobby their former colleagues. He also limited pay raises for his senior aides making more than $100,000 a year - a nod to a flailing economy and voters' frustrations.

The new commander in chief held his first meeting in the Situation Room, where he, Biden and senior military and foreign policy officials discussed the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Mr. Obama campaigned on a pledge to withdraw U.S. combat forces from Iraq within 16 months, and to beef up the commitment in Afghanistan. Mr. Obama asked the Pentagon to do whatever additional planning necessary to "execute a responsible military drawdown from Iraq."

Mr. Obama also had Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts readminister the oath of office he fumbled on Inauguration Day.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/01/22/politics/100days/main4746421.shtml

Mabus
01-22-2009, 11:03 AM
Mr. Obama also had Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts readminister the oath of office he fumbled on Inauguration Day.
Now that is funny.

Don't get me wrong, I did not feel it was needed (as there have been addtions to it, e.g. "So help me god.", and it was still considered valid), but there was a growing swell of crack-pots calling for a lawsuit stating that he could not exercise executive powers until he had taken the actual oath from the Constitution.

From Article II, Section 1:

Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

I do want to see the video of this. Has it been released?

Daniel
01-22-2009, 11:06 AM
Has there been any consensus on who actually fucked it up? I've heard both sides.

Clove
01-22-2009, 11:08 AM
I dunno, according to CBS Chief Justice Roberts fucked it up.

Mabus
01-22-2009, 11:10 AM
Has there been any consensus on who actually fucked it up? I've heard both sides.
It looked like Chief Justice Roberts screwed it up to me, but Obama did stammer and state the beginning words twice (he jumped the gun in Roberts) if memory serves me.

YouTube Oath (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMyPf4qvdbw)

Like I said previously, I am sure Roberts was thinking "This guy voted against confirming me." and when Obama jumped on the first sentence it threw Roberts off. Roberts should have known the oath by heart, as it is straight from the Constitution. Hell, I know the oath.

Athgo
01-22-2009, 11:11 AM
Too slow.

CrystalTears
01-22-2009, 12:03 PM
Biden's Oath Joke Doesn't Amuse Obama

By Jim Iovino
NBCWashington.com
updated 1 hour, 13 minutes ago

The oath of office flub on Inauguration Day led to an awkward moment Wednesday between President Barack Obama and VP Joe Biden.

Obama asked Biden to swear in senior members of the White House staff during a press conference Wednesday.

Biden may have had a senior moment instead, forgetting momentarily what he was supposed to do.

Obama: Joe, you want to administer the oath?

Biden: Am I doing this again? Oh! For the senior staff. My memory's not as good as Justice Roberts' ... Chief Justice Roberts.

Obama, not looking amused, gave Biden a tap on his back with his right hand in an attempt to get his VP back on track.

The oath then took place without any more incidents, but Biden did get some laughs from staffers and the press corps.

Atlanteax
01-22-2009, 12:48 PM
Obama gets points on that one. It'll be *real* nice to have a President who lends some dignity to the office.

Mabus
01-22-2009, 12:56 PM
Obama gets points on that one. It'll be *real* nice to have a President who lends some dignity to the office.

I agree, but I am still looking forward to more "Biden moments". SNL needs to make fun of someone.

Mabus
01-22-2009, 12:58 PM
Another story on the oath being re-administered:
Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/21/AR2009012103685_pf.html)

Obama Sworn In Again, With Right Words

By Michael D. Shear
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, January 22, 2009; A04

In golf, they call it a mulligan. A do-over.

There's no formal name for what President Obama and Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. did last night.

After flubbing his one role on Inauguration Day -- administering the oath of office to Obama -- Roberts traveled to the White House to re-administer the oath.

Just to make sure.

"We decided it was so much fun . . .," Obama joked while sitting on a couch in the Map Room. Obama stood and walked over to make small talk with pool reporters as Roberts donned his black robe.

"Are you ready to take the oath?" Roberts asked.

"I am, and we're going to do it very slowly," Obama replied.

After a flawless recitation that included no Bible and took 25 seconds, Roberts smiled and said, "Congratulations, again."

Obama said, "Thank you, sir," and then added: "All right. The bad news for the [reporters] is there's 12 more balls."

A president is required by the Constitution to say, "I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of president of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

At the inauguration, Roberts instead said: "that I will execute the office of president to the United States faithfully."

In a statement, White House counsel Greg Craig said the oath was re-administered "out of an abundance of caution."

"We believe that the oath of office was administered effectively and that the President was sworn in appropriately yesterday. But the oath appears in the Constitution itself," Craig's statement said.

Two presidents -- Calvin Coolidge and Chester A. Arthur -- have retaken the oath because of unusual circumstances the first time around.

The Map Room ceremony was less grand than the original one in front of the throng on the Mall.

But it was certainly warmer.

Clove
01-22-2009, 01:25 PM
They should have administered the oath that way the first time. Saved us a few million bucks.

CrystalTears
01-22-2009, 01:28 PM
After an almost trillion plan, what's another 150 million.

Jorddyn
01-22-2009, 01:40 PM
They should have administered the oath that way the first time. Saved us a few million bucks.

Imagine the conspiracy theorists if they'd done it "in private".

"OMG, they actually inaugurated Osama bin Laden instead!"
"OMG, Barack Obama took the oath and then ripped the cover off his bible to reveal the Quran!"
"OMG, he refused to say 'so help me God'!"
"OMG, I heard from my best friend's sister's boyfriend that he passed out at 31 flavors!"

CrystalTears
01-22-2009, 01:44 PM
Not necessarily private, just not in the way it was done. A televised inauguration held in the White House is good enough.

Clove
01-22-2009, 01:47 PM
Imagine the conspiracy theorists if they'd done it "in private".

"OMG, they actually inaugurated Osama bin Laden instead!"
"OMG, Barack Obama took the oath and then ripped the cover off his bible to reveal the Quran!"
"OMG, he refused to say 'so help me God'!"
"OMG, I heard from my best friend's sister's boyfriend that he passed out at 31 flavors!"OMG the Chief Justice got the oath wrong!1!

Jorddyn
01-22-2009, 01:48 PM
Not necessarily private, just not in the way it was done. A televised inauguration held in the White House is good enough.

"OMG, they totally CGI'd that!"

Jorddyn
01-22-2009, 01:48 PM
OMG the Chief Justice got the oath wrong!1!

Oh, c'mon. Like that'd ever happen. It's spelled right out in the constitution!

CrystalTears
01-22-2009, 01:50 PM
OMG the Chief Justice got the oath wrong!1!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v412/Jemah/lolcats/i-see-wut-ur-doin-there.jpg

Rocktar
01-22-2009, 01:53 PM
Obama gets points on that one. It'll be *real* nice to have a President who lends some dignity to the office.

Too bad it won't be this lugnut.

Stanley Burrell
01-22-2009, 03:18 PM
Man. Now all we have to do is cease information extrapolation in Abu Ghraib and we can move from water-boarding and ripping fingernails off to full-blown water torture and finger dismemberment in Turkish detention centers. Awesome.

g++
01-22-2009, 03:28 PM
Man. Now all we have to do is cease information extrapolation in Abu Ghraib and we can move from water-boarding and ripping fingernails off to full-blown water torture and finger dismemberment in Turkish detention centers. Awesome.


A second executive order formally bans torture by requiring that the Army field manual be used as the guide for terror interrogations. The order essentially ends the Bush administration's CIA program of enhanced interrogation methods..

A third executive order establishes an interagency task force to lead a systematic review of detention policies and procedures and a review of all individual cases.

Thinkin thats not gonna happen. It does raise an interesting problem though...what are we going to do with terrorist foreigners we pick up on our now daily patrols through the foreign countries we hang out in that refuse to cooperate? Say just kidding and give them their AK-47 back or set up more Abu jails which were even more embarressing for us then gitmo.

Atlanteax
08-08-2012, 02:19 PM
Looks like Obama *supports* Gitmo.

One policy we can all give him kudos for.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/07/indefinite-detention-ruling_n_1749566.html?ir=Politics#slide=more228606


NEW YORK, Aug 6 (Reuters) - Federal prosecutors on Monday appealed a U.S. judge's order barring enforcement of part of a law that permits indefinite military detention for those deemed to have "substantially supported" al Qaeda, the Taliban or "associated forces."

Manhattan federal court Judge Katherine Forrest in May ruled in favor of activists and reporters who said they feared being detained under a section of the law, signed by President Barack Obama in December.

The government says indefinite military detention without trial is justified in some cases involving militants and their supporters.

The judge's preliminary injunction prevents the U.S. government from enforcing section 1021 of the National Defense Authorization Act's "Homeland Battlefield" provisions.