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ClydeR
12-29-2008, 09:26 AM
This is a disturbing development. The military should stick with traditional interrogation methods authorized by President Bush and Vice-President Cheney, instead of promoting polygamy, which is exactly what the military did here by giving those pills to a 60-year old man with four wives.


The Afghan chieftain looked older than his 60-odd years, and his bearded face bore the creases of a man burdened with duties as tribal patriarch and husband to four younger women. His visitor, a CIA officer, saw an opportunity, and reached into his bag for a small gift.

Four blue pills. Viagra.

"Take one of these. You'll love it," the officer said. Compliments of Uncle Sam.

The enticement worked. The officer, who described the encounter, returned four days later to an enthusiastic reception. The grinning chief offered up a bonanza of information about Taliban movements and supply routes -- followed by a request for more pills.

More... (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/25/AR2008122500931.html)

Khariz
12-29-2008, 03:28 PM
You are right, Clyde. We should continue waterboarding instead of giving out viagra. :club:

Sean of the Thread
12-29-2008, 03:36 PM
I read that article earlier this week and it sounded fine to me.

Holy shit four viagra so he can fuck his wives that he's had forever already.

It's their culture who gives a shit.


*the CIA has done much more scrupulous shit in their time than hand out viagra for terrorist information.

Kembal
12-29-2008, 04:32 PM
Utterly brilliant. Gotta give the CIA credit for that.

And you know the reporter was having fun writing this article when they write sentences like this:


These include pocketknives and tools, medicine or surgeries for ailing family members, toys and school equipment, tooth extractions, travel visas, and, occasionally, pharmaceutical enhancements for aging patriarchs with slumping libidos, the officials said.

ClydeR
12-29-2008, 04:34 PM
I read that article earlier this week and it sounded fine to me.

We don't even do that in this country. We teach abstinence-only sexual education in schools. We enforce rules, with a few unfortunate and temporary exceptions, that allow marriage only between one man and one woman. But now we're promoting marriages to multiple people at the same time in other countries? That's not exporting democracy. That's just encouraging indecency. Men that old don't have any business doing such things anyway. And I'm sure that this CIA agent was going rogue, because I know that President Bush would never have authorized it.

Bobmuhthol
12-29-2008, 04:35 PM
<<We teach abstinence-only sexual education in schools.>>

Luckily, education is not federally regulated, so this is wildly inaccurate.

Khariz
12-29-2008, 04:38 PM
We don't even do that in this country. We teach abstinence-only sexual education in schools. We enforce rules, with a few unfortunate and temporary exceptions, that allow marriage only between one man and one woman. But now we're promoting marriages to multiple people at the same time in other countries? That's not exporting democracy. That's just encouraging indecency. Men that old don't have any business doing such things anyway. And I'm sure that this CIA agent was going rogue, because I know that President Bush would never have authorized it.

:rofl:

Durgrimst
12-29-2008, 04:47 PM
We don't even do that in this country. We teach abstinence-only sexual education in schools. We enforce rules, with a few unfortunate and temporary exceptions, that allow marriage only between one man and one woman. But now we're promoting marriages to multiple people at the same time in other countries? That's not exporting democracy. That's just encouraging indecency. Men that old don't have any business doing such things anyway. And I'm sure that this CIA agent was going rogue, because I know that President Bush would never have authorized it.

Dude, you are sooooo right. Every country that is not just like us is WRONG. We absolutely can't allow them to have their own customs. We have to change them, everything about them indecent and wrong. Damn foreigners....

Renian
12-29-2008, 04:52 PM
The grinning chief offered up a bonanza of information about Taliban movements and supply routes -- followed by a request for more pills.

We got more information and a better reputation from that action than waterboarding would have given us, so STFU.

Also, this was on Digg today: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28415602/



Teenagers who pledge to remain virgins until marriage are just as likely to have premarital sex as those who do not promise abstinence and are significantly less likely to use condoms and other forms of birth control when they do, according to a study released today.

The new analysis of data from a large federal survey found that more than half of youths became sexually active before marriage regardless of whether they had taken a "virginity pledge," but that the percentage who took precautions against pregnancy or sexually transmitted diseases was 10 points lower for pledgers than for non-pledgers.

"Taking a pledge doesn't seem to make any difference at all in any sexual behavior," said Janet E. Rosenbaum of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, whose report appears in the January issue of the journal Pediatrics. "But it does seem to make a difference in condom use and other forms of birth control that is quite striking."

Back
12-29-2008, 04:52 PM
Men that old don't have any business doing such things anyway.

You know how I know you’re bat-shit crazy?

I applaud the viagra move. You catch more bees with honey and all that.

There is a huge difference between exporting democracy and ramming religiously tainted belief systems onto peoples of other distinct and perfectly valid cultures much much older than America.

Celebrate difference. Unless you want to see a Starbucks on every corner of every street on the globe.

Renian
12-29-2008, 04:55 PM
There is a huge difference between exporting democracy and ramming religiously tainted belief systems onto peoples of other distinct and perfectly valid cultures much much older than America.


QFT

Kembal
12-29-2008, 04:57 PM
...wait, why is everyone responding to ClydeR like he's an actual person again?

Durgrimst
12-29-2008, 04:58 PM
ClydeR, aren't you a liberal that is all about ending these wars and all that. I bet if we try to alter their entire society so that they all love Jesus, and stop having as many wives as they want will only speed up the process and not spread hate and discontent towards the Great White Devil that is America. Damn, you got it all figured out...

Renian
12-29-2008, 05:00 PM
...wait, why is everyone responding to ClydeR like he's an actual person again?

Actually, that's a good question.

Faent
12-29-2008, 05:38 PM
Promoting polygamy? No big deal. You should have gone for promoting rape instead.

ClydeR
12-29-2008, 07:39 PM
Promoting polygamy? No big deal. You should have gone for promoting rape instead.

Faent, you have once again shown that you have a deeper understanding of these complicated issues than most of the people here. While everyone else rushed to defend this "culture," you and I recognized that polygamy as practiced in Afghanistan is little more than legalized rape and pedophilia. Some liberals always give a knee jerk defense of all sexual perversions without first taking time to understand the issue.

Another "cultural" issue in the news today is from Iraq. This time the liberals are terribly distraught that President Bush has not intervened to stop the historical cultural practice.


Kurdistan is the only known part of Iraq --and one of the few places in the world--where female circumcision is widespread. More than 60 percent of women in Kurdish areas of northern Iraq have been circumcised, according to a study conducted this year. In at least one Kurdish territory, 95 percent of women have undergone the practice, which human rights groups call female genital mutilation.

The practice, and the Kurdish parliament's refusal to outlaw it, highlight the plight of women in a region with a reputation for having a more progressive society than the rest of Iraq. Advocates for women point to the increasing frequency of honor killings against women and female self-immolations in Kurdistan this year as further evidence that women in the area still face significant obstacles, despite efforts to raise public awareness of circumcision and violence against women.

More... (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/28/AR2008122802005.html)

We'll see if the same people who defend rape in Afghanistan want to defend female circumcision in Iraq.

Gan
12-29-2008, 08:30 PM
You know how I know you’re bat-shit crazy?

I applaud the viagra move. You catch more bees with honey and all that.

There is a huge difference between exporting democracy and ramming religiously tainted belief systems onto peoples of other distinct and perfectly valid cultures much much older than America.

Celebrate difference. Unless you want to see a Starbucks on every corner of every street on the globe.

/Agreed.


Write this down folks.

Gan
12-29-2008, 08:31 PM
...wait, why is everyone responding to ClydeR like he's an actual person again?

LOL winner

Amaron
12-29-2008, 08:47 PM
We don't even do that in this country. We teach abstinence-only sexual education in schools.

What schools curriculum do you read?

I teach in a public middle school. We teach our kids that abstinence is safest... but we teach the boys how to properly put on a condom, and the girls as well. We teach them to protect agains STDs and we teach them to make smart decisions. And no matter what their decision, we teach them to be safe, and protect against pregnancy.

No where in our health curriculum do we teach abstience only. Neither does any other school in my state.

We teach our kids to make informed choices about sex and and birth control and to keep themselves safe within the choices they make wether it is to have sex or not.

J

Warriorbird
12-29-2008, 08:54 PM
Your state is also somewhat sane.

Mighty Nikkisaurus
12-29-2008, 09:10 PM
/Agreed.



Omgomgomgomgomgomgomg.





Omg.

Sean of the Thread
12-29-2008, 09:28 PM
There is absolutely nothing wrong with sharing the blue pill with the world. Hell I don't even need it but I used to take it recreation wise so I could rock the house with multiple partners all night long.

Good stuff.

Now I think it would give me a heart attack but still good stuff.

Shari
12-29-2008, 11:10 PM
We'll see if the same people who defend rape in Afghanistan want to defend female circumcision in Iraq.

While this may be true, female circumcision goes on in many other parts of the world. Many cultures in Africa practice it as well. While I OBVIOUSLY don't condone it, how the fuck do you know his wives were circumcised, how the fuck do you know if they weren't happy in their relationship?

Are you really that content to think that eventually the US will convert the world into Jesus-loving monogamous people? How fucking boring is that. I think its great he was given Viagra with the hopes of like Back said "you catch more bees with honey than vinegar".

While we're on the subject of sex, ClydeR....please, don't procreate. Ever.

ClydeR
12-30-2008, 09:30 AM
What schools curriculum do you read?

I was referring to the "pro-America areas of this great nation."

ClydeR
12-30-2008, 09:32 AM
Are you really that content to think that eventually the US will convert the world into Jesus-loving monogamous people?

No, not the whole world. Just the places where we are spending precious blood and treasure.

Amaron
12-30-2008, 09:48 AM
Just stop posting Clyde.

Unless you have acually sat down and read through a school's state approved curriculum you know nothing about what our schools teach and do not teach.

give it up.

J

DeV
12-30-2008, 09:52 AM
But abstinence-only sex education has worked wonders for CR.

You should seriously be more concerned with our government allowing 70, 80, even 90 year old men to fill Viagra/Cialis prescriptions, for health concerns and all. No, really.

AnticorRifling
12-30-2008, 09:57 AM
Why did the CIA guy have the pills to begin with and why wasn't he charged with distribution of controlled substance?! I demand a formal inquiry.

Stanley Burrell
12-30-2008, 12:06 PM
This is a disturbing development. The military should stick with traditional interrogation methods authorized by President Bush and Vice-President Cheney, instead of promoting polygamy, which is exactly what the military did here by giving those pills to a 60-year old man with four wives.

Also, post a picture of a Polygamy Porter.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2006/2264757545_5e3b4183d7.jpg

np

Khariz
12-30-2008, 02:45 PM
How about this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breast_ironing

Faent
12-31-2008, 06:07 PM
How about this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breast_ironing

Thanks for helping make my day bright and cheery.

Faent
12-31-2008, 06:08 PM
Ah, and if you want to know what Afghan warlords do with their viagra, go here: http://www.rawa.org/temp/runews/2008/12/25/about-25-women-in-the-country-face-sexual-violence.html

Gan
12-31-2008, 07:45 PM
How about this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breast_ironing

Sometimes I wonder what an alien would think if they actually saw and halfway understood all the stupid shit humans do at this stage of our (un)civilization. No wonder we dont get visitors. I'd stay away too.

Gan
12-31-2008, 07:47 PM
Omgomgomgomgomgomgomg.





Omg.

:lol:

Lord Orbstar
12-31-2008, 09:01 PM
I hope CLyde is just a board troll and doesnt really believe what he wrote...

I am an Army captain and have been to Afghanistan as an advisor to their army. Viagra for information is the win. Kudos.