Bush's new neighborhood

[ClydeR]

I learned this morning that the liberals are in a dither over President Bush's choice of a home for when he leaves the White House (assuming there is no extension of his term because of domestic unrest).

The new house, which Bush was able to pick up at a bargain because of the timely slump in housing prices, is in an exclusive neighborhood in Dallas. To give you an indication of how exclusive it is, Ross Perot and Mark Cuban both live there, but not in the same house.

What has the liberal Democrats so upset is that it's an all-white neighborhood. It is so white that until 2000, it was still illegal for blacks to live there.


But the exclusive Dallas community the Bush family will soon join has a troubled history of its own.

Until 2000, the neighborhood association's covenant said only white people were allowed to live there, though an exception was made for servants.

Enacted in 1956, part of the original document reads: "Said property shall be used and occupied by white persons except those shall not prevent occupancy by domestic servants of different race or nationality in the employ of a tenant."

The entire covenant can be seen here (http://llnw.static.cbslocal.com/station/ktvt/docs/2008/december/meaders_estates_covenant.pdf).

More (liberal source)... (http://rawstory.com/news/2008/In_whitesonly_neighborhood_residents_worried_Bush_ 1206.html)

If any black people had enough money to go to court over that local law, then it would probably have been unconstitutional.

Some of Bush's new neighbors are also upset about the traffic. Since Bush announced his impending move, the streets have been clogged with curious people driving by to see the Bush house. The police have set up a location there to direct traffic.

[Gan]

Deed restrictions that are in contrast to local, state, and federal laws are unenforceable. Specifically with regards to restrictions of property ownership based on race, creed, color, etc.

I see old deeds all the time with race restrictions on them, they are not valid in today's time.



SUBCHAPTER B. DISCRIMINATION PROHIBITED

§ 301.021. SALE OR RENTAL. (a) A person may not refuse
to sell or rent, after the making of a bona fide offer, refuse to
negotiate for the sale or rental of, or in any other manner make
unavailable or deny a dwelling to another because of race, color,
religion, sex, familial status, or national origin.

(b) A person may not discriminate against another in the
terms, conditions, or privileges of sale or rental of a dwelling or
in providing services or facilities in connection with a sale or
rental of a dwelling because of race, color, religion, sex,
familial status, or national origin.

Texas Fair Housing Act
SECTION 301.021. SALE OR RENTAL (http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/PR/content/htm/pr.015.00.000301.00.htm#301.021.00)

[Drunken Durfin]

I read the link...this was the only thing that really stuck out to me


"Mr. President -- you excited about your house in Dallas?" Todd Gillman asked.

"Todd, why do you care?" Bush responded. "You live in Washington, D.C."

[Proxy]

I read the link...this was the only thing that really stuck out to me

Thats the most intelligent answer I've ever heard bush give.

[Keller]

Deed restrictions that are in contrast to local, state, and federal laws are unenforceable. Specifically with regards to restrictions of property ownership based on race, creed, color, etc.

I see old deeds all the time with race restrictions on them, they are not valid in today's time.


Texas Fair Housing Act
SECTION 301.021. SALE OR RENTAL (http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/PR/content/htm/pr.015.00.000301.00.htm#301.021.00)

They are valid.

They just can't be enforced by courts.

[Stanley Burrell]

I learned this morning that the liberals are in a dither over President Bush's choice of a home for when he leaves the White House (assuming there is no extension of his term because of domestic unrest).

The new house, which Bush was able to pick up at a bargain because of the timely slump in housing prices, is in an exclusive neighborhood in Dallas. To give you an indication of how exclusive it is, Ross Perot and Mark Cuban both live there, but not in the same house.

What has the liberal Democrats so upset is that it's an all-white neighborhood. It is so white that until 2000, it was still illegal for blacks to live there.



If any black people had enough money to go to court over that local law, then it would probably have been unconstitutional.

Some of Bush's new neighbors are also upset about the traffic. Since Bush announced his impending move, the streets have been clogged with curious people driving by to see the Bush house. The police have set up a location there to direct traffic.

http://mybroadband.co.za/photos/data/500/People_Who_Care.jpg

[Sean of the Thread]

They are valid.

They just can't be enforced by courts.


In other words not valid?

[Gan]

A rose is a rose is a rose.

(The end result is the same)

[Cephalopod]

(assuming there is no extension of his term because of domestic unrest).
...
Ross Perot and Mark Cuban both live there, but not in the same house.


These two bits of ClydeR's post made me chuckle.

[ClydeR]

They are valid.

They just can't be enforced by courts.

What does that mean in practical terms. For example, I wonder if a bank, which would be concerned about the validity of its mortgage, would lend money to a black couple to buy property in such a neighborhood. Also, I wonder if anti-black covenants are enforced in extra-judicial proceedings, such as arbitration, which is not a function of the government and, thus, not restricted by the Constitution.

[Methais]

What has the liberal Democrats so upset is that it's an all-white neighborhood. It is so white that until 2000, it was still illegal for blacks to live there.

And people say Bush is stupid....

[nub]

What does that mean in practical terms. For example, I wonder if a bank, which would be concerned about the validity of its mortgage, would lend money to a black couple to buy property in such a neighborhood. Also, I wonder if anti-black covenants are enforced in extra-judicial proceedings, such as arbitration, which is not a function of the government and, thus, not restricted by the Constitution.

The banks have to or they are would be in deep shit according to federal law. In fact, if a Realtor did not show a black family that neighborhood (assuming a black family could afford it) that realtor would lose his/her license as well.

[TheRunt]

Did he buy his old house back? The one he sold in 95 after he was elected Gov. was in the same neighborhood or one like it.
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/bush.asp

[Drunken Durfin]

Did he buy his old house back? The one he sold in 95 after he was elected Gov. was in the same neighborhood or one like it.
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/bush.asp

There is a quote in that report:

"Do you think that [the media] would have handled it differently if a similar story was revealed about a Black candidate?"

My question is, are there any areas in the US that have Black Only covenants? I'm not being a smart ass here (break from character), I am genuinely curious.

[Sean of the Thread]

There is a quote in that report:

"Do you think that [the media] would have handled it differently if a similar story was revealed about a Black candidate?"

My question is, are there any areas in the US that have Black Only covenants? I'm not being a smart ass here (break from character), I am genuinely curious.


Yeah they're called the projects.

[TheRunt]

Or parts of Gary and Detroit.

[Daniel]

I applaud Bush for standing up to the only existent Racism in America: That of Black People.

Racists such as Al Sharpton live in luxurious dwellings in their so-called "Ghettos" and "Hoods" preventing any white people from living there through coercise measures like abject poverty.

Kudos Mr. Bush. Kudos.

[DeV]

My question is, are there any areas in the US that have Black Only covenants? I'm not being a smart ass here (break from character), I am genuinely curious.The only color that matters is green and that isn't restricted to any one color.

To answer your question: Not that I know of, but there are plenty of areas in the US where you wouldn't want to live regardless of your race, but you're always going to find a majority contigent of [insert race here]. Alternately, there are plenty of segregated neighborhoods that do not have covenants.

Poor white people live in ghettos. Poor black people live in trailer parks. Bottom line, this is a non-story, IMO.

[BigWorm]

Or parts of Gary and Detroit.

I'm pretty sure the only place in Indiana black people are allowed to live is Gary, with the possible exceptions of pro athletes and The Ponzzz's neighbors.

[Clove]

What does that mean in practical terms. For example, I wonder if a bank, which would be concerned about the validity of its mortgage, would lend money to a black couple to buy property in such a neighborhood. Also, I wonder if anti-black covenants are enforced in extra-judicial proceedings, such as arbitration, which is not a function of the government and, thus, not restricted by the Constitution.Arbitors don't enforce; they arbitrate.

The FTC would be shutting down a bank.