View Full Version : How Long Before Obama Is Assassinated?
Methais
11-06-2008, 12:23 PM
Like him or not, agree or disagree with him, this will probably end up happening.
Mabus
11-06-2008, 12:28 PM
As I have stated before:
Our Secret Service is an amazing group of individuals. If they could protect GW they can protect Obama.
RichardCranium
11-06-2008, 12:30 PM
As I have stated before:
Our Secret Service is an amazing group of individuals. If they could protect GW they can protect Obama.
WRONG. Lord Jesus protects GW.
RichardCranium
11-06-2008, 12:32 PM
How long before someone TRIES or before he IS?
Someone might try. I don't see it succeeding, especially considering how they'll treat his security compared to past presidents.
I hope not. That's profiling.
Moist Happenings
11-06-2008, 12:34 PM
I hope not. That's profiling.
Hahahaha
Correction. That's reverse profiling.
Jorddyn
11-06-2008, 01:05 PM
Like him or not, agree or disagree with him, this will probably end up happening.
Given the level of idiocy of a person willing to try to kill the president of the United States of America, I'd wager there will be an attempt or two, quite a few "plots", and no successes.
Xaerve
11-06-2008, 01:36 PM
How long before someone TRIES or before he IS?
Someone might try. I don't see it succeeding, especially considering how they'll treat his security compared to past presidents.
Why did you chose to capitalize words here instead of using your signature random bolding? Just curious.
Given the level of idiocy of a person willing to try to kill the president of the United States of America, I'd wager there will be an attempt or two, quite a few "plots", and no successes.
Well racists have pulled off some pretty intricate plots in the past and tend to be organized. While I definately agree you would have to be crazy to try and kill the president you dont necessarily have to be stupid. Also I think Obamas "Im a fresh young president for the people" shtick is going to take a hit if he constantly has 90 body gaurds around him. I would not be suprised if he trims back his own security. I doubt he will be killed but its possible.
Tea & Strumpets
11-06-2008, 02:18 PM
Like him or not, agree or disagree with him, this will probably end up happening.
You really think so? I don't think that will happen.
Methais
11-06-2008, 02:47 PM
You really think so? I don't think that will happen.
I think an attempt(s) will be made at the very least.
Keller
11-06-2008, 02:50 PM
Even if they do assassinate him, he'll rise from the dead 3 days later.
Duh.
Truth be know there have probably been a couple of "attempts" stopped already.
I say we see a true, well planned TRY within a year.
NocturnalRob
11-06-2008, 02:58 PM
i hope never. i'd rather have obama as president than biden.
not to mention that there would be riots for 3245241995$%*(# days afterwards.
Some Rogue
11-06-2008, 03:09 PM
not to mention that there would be riots for 3245241995$%*(# days afterwards.
Another good reason for me to be living in Whiteyville?
I'd venture to guess there have been attempts or plots on every presidents life.
Necromancer
11-06-2008, 03:20 PM
So much stupid, so little time.
If he is assassinated, everyone will bitch and moan because it is his skin color, it isn't. 4 presidents have been killed in office, 5 if you count RFK, which I do considering he would have been president if he hadn't been killed. You should also count attempted assassinations, so you can add GHWB, and Reagan. Maybe you don't count GHWB because it didn't happen on US soil, whatever.
Then going through history you'll find lots of less serious attempts or more serious attempts. Including psychos trying to hit the white house from the street with a handgun. GWB had a grenade tossed at him overseas too, etc etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Presidential_assassination_a ttempts
Wikipedia lists 17 attempts in total, add in RFK, which they do not count but I do, and you have 18 attempts for 44 presidents.
Obama would have a roughly 40% chance for someone to attempt to kill him (out of the planning stage of course) if he were an old white dude, and if you go by recent history, every single president since JFK, except LBJ, has had assassination attempts.
So, I'll put the chance of someone trying to kill Obama at 100% if he were an old white dude.
Don't call it racism when it happens, EVERY president carries the risk of assassination, it has nothing to do with skin color. It has to do with the office.
Truth be know there have probably been a couple of "attempts" stopped already.
I say we see a true, well planned TRY within a year.
I would classify an attempt as shot fired, a bomb deployed, etc. Things stopped in planning stages do not count, or you'd probably have one every couple months for every president.
RichardCranium
11-06-2008, 04:11 PM
If he is assassinated, everyone will bitch and moan because it is his skin color, it isn't. 4 presidents have been killed in office, 5 if you count RFK, which I do considering he would have been president if he hadn't been killed. You should also count attempted assassinations, so you can add GHWB, and Reagan. Maybe you don't count GHWB because it didn't happen on US soil, whatever.
Then going through history you'll find lots of less serious attempts or more serious attempts. Including psychos trying to hit the white house from the street with a handgun. GWB had a grenade tossed at him overseas too, etc etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Presidential_assassination_a ttempts
Wikipedia lists 17 attempts in total, add in RFK, which they do not count but I do, and you have 18 attempts for 44 presidents.
Obama would have a roughly 40% chance for someone to attempt to kill him (out of the planning stage of course) if he were an old white dude, and if you go by recent history, every single president since JFK, except LBJ, has had assassination attempts.
So, I'll put the chance of someone trying to kill Obama at 100% if he were an old white dude.
Don't call it racism when it happens, EVERY president carries the risk of assassination, it has nothing to do with skin color. It has to do with the office.
You're not joking, are you?
Ignot
11-06-2008, 04:14 PM
If he is assassinated, everyone will bitch and moan because it is his skin color, it isn't.
Oh wow! So you already know why someone is going to kill him? You must be very smart. So if the KKK comes out and kills him then it was surely not due to skin color.
Hulkein
11-06-2008, 04:20 PM
The risk of assassination comes along with the office, crb, but that doesn't mean race isn't the cause of a hypothetical attempt on Obama.
We won't know the reason, but the fact is, Barack Obama faces NO GREATER RISK of assassination than any other president.
People may hate him for different reasons than they hated Bush, or Clinton, or Papa Bush, or Reagan, or Carter, or Nixon, or RFK, or JFK. But that doesn't mean he is at greater risk.
Attributing a greater risk of assassination to Obama because of his skin color is historically naive, and in my opinion quite racist. Considering we've almost gone 50 years without a president escaping any attempts at assassination, to put an asterisk next to Obama's name indicating "someone will try to kill him" because you've got a racist view of America, is dumb.
As far as race relations in this country goes, accusing nonracist people of being racist, or generalizing groups of various demographics as racist, is as harmful as actually being racist. Stop looking at the man and seeing just his skin color and thinking "oh no, he is gonna get it."
Ignot
11-06-2008, 04:32 PM
We won't know the reason, but the fact is, Barack Obama faces NO GREATER RISK of assassination than any other president.
Oh okay. Well, im glad racism is over.
CrystalTears
11-06-2008, 04:39 PM
We won't know the reason, but the fact is, Barack Obama faces NO GREATER RISK of assassination than any other president.Even though I may feel that an assassination won't ever be successful, but if you think that race would never be a factor in the attempt, you're deluding yourself.
Bobmuhthol
11-06-2008, 04:45 PM
They'd be killing a white man.
Methais
11-06-2008, 04:46 PM
Don't call it racism when it happens, EVERY president carries the risk of assassination, it has nothing to do with skin color. It has to do with the office. Unless you're black. Then it's only about race, and has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that Obama is a fucking idiot antichrist muslim terrorist plant in disguise that wants to bankrupt the coal industry and destroy the country from within.
Fixed.
Seriously, if someone kills/tries to kill Obama, I seriously doubt it will have anything to do with race. Of course most/all the blacks will blame it on that because they love their race card, but the whole muslim/anti-american association deal and everything else about him that was screaming "Don't vote for me" to people that aren't blind is much more likely to result in an assassination attempt than his skin color.
I'd love to see the reaction if a black person (or at least someone who isn't white) assassinated him. I'm sure people would say the person was framed, even if the guy stood up and said "Yeah I killed Obama. Big deal he had it coming." Then they'd just say he was forced to "confess" by the government or something equally retarded.
Oh okay. Well, im glad racism is over.
Newsflash, a minority of people wanted a white president this time around. Continually playing the race card is tiresome.
Most people in this country voted for the black guy. Most people in this country wanted him... but you'll maintain he has a greater risk (a risk greater than 100% mind you, considering every modern president going back 4 decades has had an attempt) than anyone else would.
What does he have? a 120% risk?
Ignot
11-06-2008, 05:32 PM
Newsflash, a minority of people wanted a white president this time around. Continually playing the race card is tiresome.
Most people in this country voted for the black guy. Most people in this country wanted him... but you'll maintain he has a greater risk (a risk greater than 100% mind you, considering every modern president going back 4 decades has had an attempt) than anyone else would.
What does he have? a 120% risk?
Saying that he can't be killed because he is black is crazy, crb. Nobody is playing a race card but there is still racism out there. I don't recall saying he had a greater risk of being assassinated then other presidents so don't put words in my mouth. My comments implied that he COULD be assassinated because he is black. He could be assassinated just because he is president, regardless of skin color, who knows? You, on the other hand, say that he cannot be killed because he is black.
If you really think that there is no more racism in the world then fine but I don't think that even you are that delusional. If you think that there is even a shred of racism left then it is quite reasonable to consider that the first black president of the United States may have a risk of getting assassinated BECAUSE he is black.
They'd be killing a white man.
Half...
And I voted never.
Parkbandit
11-06-2008, 05:39 PM
Saying that he can't be killed because he is black is crazy, crb. Nobody is playing a race card but there is still racism out there. I don't recall saying he had a greater risk of being assassinated then other presidents so don't put words in my mouth. My comments implied that he COULD be assassinated because he is black. He could be assassinated just because he is president, regardless of skin color, who knows? You, on the other hand, say that he cannot be killed because he is black.
If you really think that there is no more racism in the world then fine but I don't think that even you are that delusional. If you think that there is even a shred of racism left then it is quite reasonable to consider that the first black president of the United States may have a risk of getting assassinated BECAUSE he is black.
If he gets assassinated, the first instinct of many people will be because he is black and not because he is the President of the United States... which isn't necessarily the case. Every single President knows the risk... regardless of skin color.
thefarmer
11-06-2008, 05:44 PM
If he gets assassinated, the first instinct of many people will be because he is black and not because he is the President of the United States... which isn't necessarily the case. Every single President knows the risk... regardless of skin color.
Because we've had so many different races as president...
Obama being killed wouldn't have to be about race, but it could be. That's the point I think some are trying to make.
Athgo
11-06-2008, 05:47 PM
Because we've had so many different races as president...
Obama being killed wouldn't have to be about race, but it could be. That's the point I think some are trying to make.
Yeah, I don't think anyone has said race would be the only factor, it could just be because he is a godless liberal. But to think that a small minority of white power extremists wouldn't want to kill him because he is black is delusional.
Parkbandit
11-06-2008, 05:47 PM
Because we've had so many different races as president...
Obama being killed wouldn't have to be about race, but it could be. That's the point I think some are trying to make.
Show me where I stated it would have nothing to do with race. I said dumbfucks like you would automatically attribute it because Obama is black, which may not be the case.
Parkbandit
11-06-2008, 05:48 PM
Yeah, I don't think anyone has said race would be the only factor, it could just be because he is a godless liberal. But to think that a small minority of white power extremists wouldn't want to kill him because he is black is delusional.
Where did you come to the realization that Obama is somehow godless?
Athgo
11-06-2008, 05:50 PM
Where did you come to the realization that Obama is somehow godless?
All liberals all godless, unless you count allah
There, I made it easy to spot the sarcasm.
nocturnix
11-06-2008, 05:54 PM
Like him or not, agree or disagree with him, this will probably end up happening.
Jesus you people are way too fucking paranoid.
diethx
11-06-2008, 05:55 PM
RC is full of funny shit today. :heart:
And I voted never.
Tea & Strumpets
11-06-2008, 06:05 PM
Newsflash, a minority of people wanted a white president this time around. Continually playing the race card is tiresome.
Most people in this country voted for the black guy. Most people in this country wanted him... but you'll maintain he has a greater risk (a risk greater than 100% mind you, considering every modern president going back 4 decades has had an attempt) than anyone else would.
What does he have? a 120% risk?
I agree that the theoretical guy that tries to assassinate Obama is not doing so because he's a racist. Quite frankly I'm tired of the unfounded attacks on this guy's (the assassin) character.
Miss Ismurii
11-06-2008, 06:12 PM
Of course someone is going to try. If they succeed, then they do, if they don't, then they don't.
Everyone wants to make history.
Of course someone is going to try. If they succeed, then they do, if they don't, then they don't.
Everyone wants to make history.
So your saying "Who wouldn't want to shoot the president" essentially? Im not sure the situation is that bad.
Miss Ismurii
11-06-2008, 06:19 PM
No, I'm saying there probably will be an attempt.
Saying that he can't be killed because he is black is crazy, crb. Nobody is playing a race card but there is still racism out there. I don't recall saying he had a greater risk of being assassinated then other presidents so don't put words in my mouth. My comments implied that he COULD be assassinated because he is black. He could be assassinated just because he is president, regardless of skin color, who knows? You, on the other hand, say that he cannot be killed because he is black.
If you really think that there is no more racism in the world then fine but I don't think that even you are that delusional. If you think that there is even a shred of racism left then it is quite reasonable to consider that the first black president of the United States may have a risk of getting assassinated BECAUSE he is black.
No, I'm saying his skin color does not increase his chances of being assassinated. Someone could shoot him because he is black, but that doesn't mean he has a higher chance of being assassinated than any other president.
Walking around saying "Barack is black, someone will try to kill him." is stupid. Someone is going to try to kill him because he is president, just like someone would have tried to kill John McCain, fuck, someone would have even tried to kill Ralph Nader, it comes with the job, not the skin color.
Every president for a generation has had an assassination attempt, to say that Barack is going to have one because of his race is racist and incendiary. You might as well go bunk with Rev. Wright and work on your rantings together.
Though I wonder how all the hippies would react if someone published "art" of a gun to his head, him hanging from a noose, etc.
Miss Ismurii
11-06-2008, 07:17 PM
Walking around saying "Barack is black, someone will try to kill him." is stupid.
Do you realize how many people are still racist and would think that that is a great reason for him to be dead? I can imagine people having an issue just because of that.
Mabus
11-06-2008, 07:22 PM
Walking around saying "Barack is black, someone will try to kill him."
Reagan was black, and they tried to kill him too!
Let it go people.
Trust the Secret Service. Obama is safer as president-elect then the people are that are walking around the streets that he represented as a lowly state senator just four or so years ago.
droit
11-06-2008, 07:49 PM
Have you never seen an episode of 24? Obama is fucked, man!
Dwarven Empath
11-06-2008, 07:53 PM
So 96% voted for a black man.
I'm more stunned it wasn't 100%
Fixed.
Seriously, if someone kills/tries to kill Obama, I seriously doubt it will have anything to do with race. Of course most/all the blacks will blame it on that because they love their race card, but the whole muslim/anti-american association deal and everything else about him that was screaming "Don't vote for me" to people that aren't blind is much more likely to result in an assassination attempt than his skin color.
I'd love to see the reaction if a black person (or at least someone who isn't white) assassinated him. I'm sure people would say the person was framed, even if the guy stood up and said "Yeah I killed Obama. Big deal he had it coming." Then they'd just say he was forced to "confess" by the government or something equally retarded.
Often times I wonder if you've actually ever met a black individual. You talk a lot of shit about blacks and the race card yet you're essentially doing the same thing. You use ridiculous acts of hyperbole that you attribute to the black community to try and gain leverage for your point. Congrats on bringing yourself down to the same level as those individuals you seemingly despise.
Kranar
11-06-2008, 08:06 PM
People still take crb seriously?
Wow.
Hulkein
11-06-2008, 08:12 PM
People still take crb seriously?
Wow.
Get back in your hole!
Stanley Burrell
11-06-2008, 08:14 PM
He'll be taken out just as quickly as it took the last half-black president of The United States to be assassinated. Trust me.
thefarmer
11-06-2008, 08:20 PM
Show me where I stated it would have nothing to do with race. I said dumbfucks like you would automatically attribute it because Obama is black, which may not be the case.
Show me where I stated it would have everything to do with race. I said dumbfucks like you would automatically attribute it to Obama being president, which may not be the case.
Kefka
11-06-2008, 08:24 PM
If race isn't a possible reason, why is there a poll? How many assassinate polls do we have for other presidents?
Tea & Strumpets
11-06-2008, 08:27 PM
If race isn't a possible reason, why is there a poll? How many assassinate polls do we have for other presidents?
I didn't vote in the poll so I want it on record that I'm one of the good white people.
AnticorRifling
11-06-2008, 09:02 PM
A black man will take the shot shouting white wash at the top of his lungs. Then liberal heads will explode, conservative heads will explode, and no one will have seen it coming.
I voted because I'm better than Dar.
phantasm
11-06-2008, 09:30 PM
The rhetoric leading up to the election painted Obama into these categories:
Racist
Communist
Terrorist
If someone out there believed the hype. They are at this very moment planning his demise, and feel they are doing it to save their country.
If he is killed within the week, I would not be surprised. The blame will fall on the shoulders of every conservative that spread the hype.
The blame will fall on the shoulders of every conservative that spread the hype.
Prolly whoever killed him will be somewhat responsible as well.
Methais
11-06-2008, 10:55 PM
Often times I wonder if you've actually ever met a black individual. You talk a lot of shit about blacks and the race card yet you're essentially doing the same thing. You use ridiculous acts of hyperbole that you attribute to the black community to try and gain leverage for your point. Congrats on bringing yourself down to the same level as those individuals you seemingly despise.
Are you seriously saying that most black people wouldn't immediately assume he got assassinated because he was black, and that instead they would attribute it to Obama's background and associations and all that? Most people that don't like Obama don't give a flying fuck what his race is. Race isn't the reason they don't like him. How am I essentially pulling the race card? By predicting that blacks would say Obama got pwned just because he's black? Most black people that voted for him probably did so just because he's black. If Obama was a Republican, most blacks probably would have still voted for him just because they want a black president.
As for the rest of my "ridiculous hyperbole", that's the exact kind of bullshit people like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jacksoff would be spewing if a black guy killed Obama, and insist it has nothing to do with his background and associations, and come up with a way to blame white people for it. Then 5 minutes later Jesse Jackson would be overheard saying "That nigga got framed for Obama's assassination."
I really don't have a problem with black people. I can't stand a lot of people that are black, but I also can't stand a lot of people that are white or whatever race so-and-so asshole happens to be. But go ahead and dig up posts of me telling black jokes and making stereotypes and call me racist anyway if it makes you feel better.
Even if Tyrone Jackson really is out robbing a 7-11 or raping a white woman right now, my problem with him wouldn't be because he's black, because a white guy doing the same thing would be equally worthless.
I'd love nothing more (except for Tisket to post her boobs) than to be totally wrong about Obama, and have him turn out to be an awesome president. I still wouldn't give a fuck what his race is either way.
If race isn't a possible reason, why is there a poll? How many assassinate polls do we have for other presidents?
It couldn't possibly be because he's a Muslim and has ties with terrorists and other people that hate America or anything like that. Not at all.
I think were all over looking the obvious reason Obama would get killed : gang related violence.
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/live_from_congress_representativ_0
Daniel
11-06-2008, 11:21 PM
Are you seriously saying that most black people wouldn't immediately assume he got assassinated because he was black, and that instead they would attribute it to Obama's background and associations and all that?
Huh?
First off: What part of Obama's background and associations make him more susceptible to being assassinated? Suddenly serving on a school board makes him worth killing? Going to Harvard Law maybe?
Second Off: Why wouldn't black people think this? Did Racism suddenly end in America? Are there not redneck racist fucks who still do shit like hang nooses from trees to prove a point?
Oh wait... http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/08/obama-assassina.html
I wouldn't bat a lash if Obama got assassinated because he was black and it's not because of some reverse racism. It's because I'm not fucking stupid.
Daniel
11-06-2008, 11:23 PM
It couldn't possibly be because he's a Muslim and has ties with terrorists and other people that hate America or anything like that. Not at all.
I can't tell what the italics are for...
Do you honestly believe that he's a muslim and has ties with terrorists?
Mabus
11-06-2008, 11:35 PM
Did Racism suddenly end in America?
Yep, it's over. The dream was accomplished.
Now what will you complain about?
Daniel
11-06-2008, 11:47 PM
Yep, it's over. The dream was accomplished.
Now what will you complain about?
Lol.
Nice try. So how's it feel Mabus. All that effort for nothing huh? I bet it must really suck to have a racist anti semite in the office. If only we'd have listened to you.
Kefka
11-07-2008, 12:47 AM
It couldn't possibly be because he's a Muslim and has ties with terrorists and other people that hate America or anything like that. Not at all.
Hmmm... because assassinating people for being Muslim isn't racist at all...
TheRunt
11-07-2008, 02:08 AM
Newsflash, a minority of people wanted a white president this time around. Continually playing the race card is tiresome.
Most people in this country voted for the black guy. Most people in this country wanted him... but you'll maintain he has a greater risk (a risk greater than 100% mind you, considering every modern president going back 4 decades has had an attempt) than anyone else would.
I''ll agree on the minority but I have to disagree with the most people part. Obama won the popular election by 7% So yes a majority but I would say far from most.
Hmmm... because assassinating people for being Muslim isn't racist at all...
No it wouldn't be racist at all. Muslim isn't a race. :loser:
Most black people that voted for him probably did so just because he's black. If Obama was a Republican, most blacks probably would have still voted for him just because they want a black president.
Most black people that voted for Obama are Democrat. He faced a black Republican in his initial bid for the U.S. Senate; he won. Most black people can think [and vote] for themselves. Ironically, most blacks are social conservatives; perhaps they should consider the Republican party.
Necromancer
11-07-2008, 05:51 AM
Most black people that voted for Obama are Democrat. He faced a black Republican in his initial bid for the U.S. Senate; he won. Most black people can think [and vote] for themselves. Ironically, most blacks are social conservatives; perhaps they should consider the Republican party.
It's almost as though they think that the Republicans won't deal well with some of the major issues the Black community faces: racism, poverty, abusive drug laws (coke versus crack anyone?), and educational opportunity- among others.
I mean, my god, are they stupid or something?
(Side note: most black people who voted for Obama may have been democrats, but 92% or so of black voters voted for him- so the causation only goes one way).
Parkbandit
11-07-2008, 07:49 AM
Hmmm... because assassinating people for being Muslim isn't racist at all...
Actually it's not. Muslim is a religion, not a race.
Daniel
11-07-2008, 07:52 AM
Actually it's not. Muslim is a religion, not a race.
Yea! You win one! It's totally okay to kill someone because they are Muslim.
That's why rednecks started hating Muslims so they couldn't be called racist anymore.
Take that NAACP!
Parkbandit
11-07-2008, 07:56 AM
Yea! You win one! It's totally okay to kill someone because they are Muslim.
That's why rednecks started hating Muslims so they couldn't be called racist anymore.
Take that NAACP!
You are seriously dumb as all fuck.
Daniel
11-07-2008, 07:57 AM
You are seriously dumb as all fuck.
QQ
Parkbandit
11-07-2008, 08:01 AM
QQ
Who's crying, boy? Certainly not me. Obama's my President and I'll completely support him until he does something I disagree with and I will raise my voice as I always have done. I want nothing more than for him to be a great President that quickly helps us through this economic hard time.
Daniel
11-07-2008, 08:04 AM
I was talking about the election?
Projection much?
Parkbandit
11-07-2008, 08:07 AM
I was talking about the election?
Projection much?
Stop posting. For your sake.
I'm embarrassed for you right now.
Daniel
11-07-2008, 08:11 AM
Stop posting. For your sake.
I'm embarrassed for you right now.
There you go projecting again.
You'd think after having all the bullshit I posted in the last 4 months being shown for what it is I'd calm down on the claims on people's intelligence.
Then again, who am I talking to?
lolz
Parkbandit
11-07-2008, 08:31 AM
There you go projecting again.
You'd think after having all the bullshit I posted in the last 4 months being shown for what it is I'd calm down on the claims on people's intelligence.
Then again, who am I talking to?
lolz
Wait.. you mean bullshit like in my signature?
Somehow, you believe that you are somehow more intelligent because Obama won the election? That's fucking hilarious. You've yet to provide ANY proof that you are anything but a dumb fuck.
But hey.. keep kidding yourself.
AnticorRifling
11-07-2008, 08:33 AM
Would you two titty babies just have sex already.
Daniel
11-07-2008, 08:33 AM
Wait.. you mean bullshit like in my signature?
Somehow, you believe that you are somehow more intelligent because Obama won the election? That's fucking hilarious. You've yet to provide ANY proof that you are anything but a dumb fuck.
But hey.. keep kidding yourself.
Another failure to comprehend.
Shocking.
Mabus
11-07-2008, 09:25 AM
Lol.
Nice try.
Remember, this is now the "post racial" era. Tell your friends.
"Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred. We must forever conduct our struggle on the high plane of dignity and discipline."
So how's it feel Mabus.
Feels like a battle was lost, but the rest of the war lies ahead.
I realized during this campaign just how short-sighted some voters were. When I tried to understand some of it, I had a realization that to many, especially the youth, this was only their first or second election. They had no perception of how elections were truly run, what governed them, the games in the background or what had happened in elections previous to just a scant few before the current one.
I watched the death of publicly financed presidential elections with some interest, with an eye trained on how it allowed illegal donations to flow into coffers, and tried to understand what that could mean on all sides in the future.
If you are looking for some crying moment (as some of the idiots around hear suggested) you will be disappointed. I voted for Carter to end the corruption of the Nixon administration only to have to vote for Reagan to end the Carter administration. I campaigned for Gary Hart and ended up voting for Jesse Jackson in a primary, after Hart dropped out. I voted for Gore and Kerry, both times seeing the election called under questionable circumstances. Out of all of that I would say Gary Hart 88 was my most emotional campaign. This one does not even compare.
Hows it feel to you? Does it feel like all your dreams have come true, and fairy dust and manna will now rain down from heaven?
All that effort for nothing huh? I bet it must really suck to have a racist anti semite in the office.
We didn't elect you, or Rev. Wright, so no racist anti-Semite was elected, unless that is what you are now calling Obama.
What did happen was the take over of the DNC by Chicago. Now that party can deal with the later consequences.
As to "all that effort" I had a friggen great time! I love politics, and this is my "Super Bowl". Every four years I get to see all the nitty-gritty I can stand, root for my favorite team and then "pick up my guitar and play, just like yesterday, and then I get on my knees and pray; We don't get fooled again."(but without the praying part of the Who song).
There is little sense in wasting away in some pool of negative emotions when there is no chance to change an outcome. The emotion was better spent before the vote, and was.
You must have missed my "Congratulations" thread directly after the election. I sincerely hope that Obama is successful in making the country a better place. I live here, and love this country.
This well wish for the Obama presidency does not mean I will not write my House and Senate members about pending legislation that I feel would be bad for the long-term interests of the country. I will.
If only we'd have listened to you.
Gee, you must miss being able to put one-line, hate-filled posts about the election already. Poor, obsessed Obama voter. Who can you hate now that you won?
Maybe you should go attack Palin with the other obsessed Obama voters. I hear there is still some good fun in it!
Daniel
11-07-2008, 10:02 AM
A "It really fucking sucks" would have sufficed.
Mighty Nikkisaurus
11-07-2008, 10:06 AM
Lol @ Mabus characterizing Obama voters as being hateful.
Mabus
11-07-2008, 10:06 AM
A "It really fucking sucks" would have sufficed.
But would not have been truthful.
I apologize if you are looking to me for some vindication in the misery of others, but you'll have to look elsewhere.
Daniel
11-07-2008, 10:07 AM
But would not have been truthful.
I apologize if you are looking to me for some vindication in the misery of others, but you'll have to look elsewhere.
*tear
Parkbandit
11-07-2008, 10:09 AM
Another failure to comprehend.
Shocking.
Another failure to communicate effectively. Shocking.
This from the same dumb fuck who gave you quality posts like:
"The better educated our people are, the people we do in the world."
Obviously, I am expecting far too much from someone far too stupid.
Mabus
11-07-2008, 10:10 AM
Lol @ Mabus characterizing Obama voters as being hateful.
They are the most perfect, non-negative people you will ever meet!
During this election I often wrote this:
"You have become what you detested."
Obama supporters became the rabid GW supporters that they once despised. Nothing could be said about their candidate that was negative, no matter how true, without immediate attacks.
I know several people that would not even discuss Obama unless they knew you were voting for him first.
It gets like that with a cult of personality.
Watch it with a clear eye for a while, and we may see more of the behavior.
Mabus
11-07-2008, 10:12 AM
*tear
Don't weep. I am sure you can find lots of people that cannot let go of the election, and one or two will even be former McCain supporters.
:)
Parkbandit
11-07-2008, 10:18 AM
Don't weep. I am sure you can find lots of people that cannot let go of the election, and one or two will even be former McCain supporters.
:)
Far fewer than those who are still holding onto 2000 and 2004.
Mighty Nikkisaurus
11-07-2008, 10:19 AM
It amuses me because when Kerry ran, Democrats got slapped with the "weak, pussy" label. When they grow balls and say "Knock this shit off" and start going on the offensive and hitting back, suddenly they're hateful and mean.
I guess though that I'd rather be characterized as hateful and mean for believing in a candidate with the hope-mongering message of change and progress, then a weak pussy who won't defend what they believe in or fight for the direction they think the country they love should go in.
Daniel
11-07-2008, 10:21 AM
Another failure to communicate effectively. Shocking.
This from the same dumb fuck who gave you quality posts like:
"The better educated our people are, the people we do in the world."
Obviously, I am expecting far too much from someone far too stupid.
Lame.
Daniel
11-07-2008, 10:21 AM
Don't weep. I am sure you can find lots of people that cannot let go of the election, and one or two will even be former McCain supporters.
:)
Far fewer than those who are still holding onto 2000 and 2004.
B...b..b..but the Democrats!!!11!!
Parkbandit
11-07-2008, 10:23 AM
Lame.
I agree.. although I think you are beyond actually lame and more into really stupid and ignorant.
Parkbandit
11-07-2008, 10:23 AM
B...b..b..but the Democrats!!!11!!
Just like Ashliana.
How precious you two are.
Daniel
11-07-2008, 10:30 AM
I agree.. although I think you are beyond actually lame and more into really stupid and ignorant.
I'm hurt really.
The first 500 times you said that, I really didn't care.
This time though? You really hit close to home.
Methais
11-07-2008, 11:46 AM
Huh?
First off: What part of Obama's background and associations make him more susceptible to being assassinated? Suddenly serving on a school board makes him worth killing? Going to Harvard Law maybe?
Gee I dunno, maybe having ties with people that hate America? I bet you also believed him when he said, "I wasn't there for any of Rev. Wright's hateful sermons," despite being a member of his church for 20 years, didn't you, for example?
Second Off: Why wouldn't black people think this? Did Racism suddenly end in America? Are there not redneck racist fucks who still do shit like hang nooses from trees to prove a point?
Oh wait... http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/08/obama-assassina.html
I wouldn't bat a lash if Obama got assassinated because he was black and it's not because of some reverse racism. It's because I'm not fucking stupid.
I said if Obama was assassinated, I doubt it would be because he's black. I never said it wasn't possible. You know what the word doubt means right? Btw there are racist people of all races that would kill a <insert race> person just to prove a point too, just for the record. Except black people. Everybody's racist except black people.
I'm saying there are other reasons that are more likely to result in him being assassinated than the color of his skin. If the assassin came out and was like "Yeah I killed Obama because <insert reason that has nothing to do with race>," douchevalves like Al Sharpton would still insist it was because of race, there'd be Rodney King riots all over the place, etc. despite the fact that him being killed wasn't related to race at all.
If a black person killed Obama, they (they = people like Sharpton and Jackson) couldn't blame the killer's motivations on race, so they'd probably come up with some bullshit like how a white person really killed him, and the black guy was framed by the government and forced to confess to a crime he didn't commit (which reminds me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nHf92ZsyBQ ).
When was the last time Sharpton or Jackson didn't have an excuse for any scenario that managed to blame white people for whatever was going on? Like how Michael Richards' meltdown on stage was due to Senifeld not having enough black characters according to Sharpton, for example, which was whitey's fault of course. And yes I realize a comedian calling someone a nigger and someone shooting the president are two completely different things.
The point is no matter what happens and no matter what reason it happens for, it's always whitey's fault according to people like S & J.
So in case you missed it: Yes it's possible someone would assassinate Obama because he's black. It's also possible (moreso, imho) that he would be assassinated for other reasons that have nothing to do with race.
Daniel
11-07-2008, 11:55 AM
Your problem seems to be that you think Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are an accurate representation of all black people.
Anyone who thinks that if someone takes a shot at Obama is not fueled by the fact he is not only president but a BLACK president is extremely naive.
Also if you think the country as a whole won't point the blame on the simple fact he is a black man in office you are just plain dumb.
Would be a great time for some idiot terrorist to assasinate him and put the blame on some dumb redneck, then sit back and watch as our country is overrun by a civil war. Rodney King was a slap fight compared to what will happen if Obama gets killed by a white american.
Hulkein
11-07-2008, 12:00 PM
A "It really fucking sucks" would have sufficed.
You're really just being a straight up douche bag at this point.
Parkbandit
11-07-2008, 12:00 PM
I'm hurt really.
The first 500 times you said that, I really didn't care.
This time though? You really hit close to home.
"Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me"
http://bratstopshere.com/brat_boy.jpg
Awesome retort. I haven't heard that since the 4th grade.
Seriously though, fuck off already.
Methais
11-07-2008, 12:01 PM
Your problem seems to be that you think Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are an accurate representation of all black people.
The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
Parkbandit
11-07-2008, 12:01 PM
You're really just being a straight up douche bag at this point.
You somehow believe this is different than any other time in Daniel's posting career here.
That's funny.
Daniel
11-07-2008, 12:01 PM
You're really just being a straight up douche bag at this point.
Thanks.
After all the retarded, patronizing, and sometimes outright racist shit I've taken from the collective of the R-Team that's kinda my intention.
Daniel
11-07-2008, 12:02 PM
"Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me"
http://bratstopshere.com/brat_boy.jpg
Awesome retort. I haven't heard that since the 4th grade.
Seriously though, fuck off already.
Haha. Because a "You're dumb" retort is so totally 5th grade.
Methais
11-07-2008, 12:05 PM
Would be a great time for some idiot terrorist to assasinate him and put the blame on some dumb redneck, then sit back and watch as our country is overrun by a civil war. Rodney King was a slap fight compared to what will happen if Obama gets killed by a white american.
Wouldn't that make him a smart terrorist instead of an idiot? From a terrorist point of view of course. Btw I made this sentence white so those with the default skin probably won't notice it, and then probably respond calling me a terrorist. I didn't make this sentence white because I'm racist though, but I'm sure that'll come up too.
Wouldn't that make him a smart terrorist instead of an idiot? From a terrorist point of view of course. Btw I made this sentence white so those with the default skin probably won't notice it, and then probably respond calling me a terrorist. I didn't make this sentence white because I'm racist though, but I'm sure that'll come up too.
That it would
nice color choice you bigot!!!!
Methais
11-07-2008, 12:10 PM
That it would
nice color choice you bigot!!!!
OMG SEE I TOLD U I'D BE CALLED RACIST FOR THAT WTFZ0RZ!!!!!111
Mighty Nikkisaurus
11-07-2008, 12:19 PM
Wouldn't that make him a smart terrorist instead of an idiot? From a terrorist point of view of course. Btw I made this sentence white so those with the default skin probably won't notice it, and then probably respond calling me a terrorist. I didn't make this sentence white because I'm racist though, but I'm sure that'll come up too.
Probably.
You racist terrorist.
The point is no matter what happens and no matter what reason it happens for, it's always whitey's fault according to people like S & J.
You do realize that most black people don't give a fuck what S & J think? They are divisive distractions.
Are you seriously saying that most black people wouldn't immediately assume he got assassinated because he was black, and that instead they would attribute it to Obama's background and associations and all that? Most people that don't like Obama don't give a flying fuck what his race is. Race isn't the reason they don't like him. How am I essentially pulling the race card? By predicting that blacks would say Obama got pwned just because he's black? Most black people that voted for him probably did so just because he's black. If Obama was a Republican, most blacks probably would have still voted for him just because they want a black president.
I'm saying it's impossible to know why someone is assassinate until they're assassinated. Your characterizations of most/all black people as ignorant and looking to blame "whitey" is ridiculous. If as a black male I say something like "I didn't get X because I'm black." it's pulling the race card by injecting race to leverage my position no matter how ridiculous it is. You're essentially creating a position where most/all blacks are somehow ignorant and using race to create leverage your position which is also ridiculous. I don't really care why people don't like Obama. If they don't like him because he's black so be it. If they don't like him for his policies so be it. But I'm not trying to pigeon hole or characterize or predict how an entire culture will respond based off a stereotype I've created to leverage my point.
As for the rest of my "ridiculous hyperbole", that's the exact kind of bullshit people like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jacksoff would be spewing if a black guy killed Obama, and insist it has nothing to do with his background and associations, and come up with a way to blame white people for it. Then 5 minutes later Jesse Jackson would be overheard saying "That nigga got framed for Obama's assassination."
The fact that you don't realize how ridiculous this position is kind of leaves me flabbergasted. There are to my knowledge 3 black regular posters on these boards (myself, daniel, and DeV) none of which have thrown their unquestioned support or allegiance behind Sharpton or Jackson. The fact that some black people (and people of other races) buy into what their selling is kind of like believing that PB is representative of all white people. Some people buy what PBs selling (check) he goes out of his way to be as loud as possible to drown out opposition (check) it doesn't really matter how hypocritical he's being he'll stand behind what he's saying until the end (check.) There you go PB = all white people I guess.
I really don't have a problem with black people. I can't stand a lot of people that are black, but I also can't stand a lot of people that are white or whatever race so-and-so asshole happens to be. But go ahead and dig up posts of me telling black jokes and making stereotypes and call me racist anyway if it makes you feel better.
Calling people a racist doesn't in any way make me feel better. I don't actually think you hate black people. I just think you have a complete mischaracterization of black culture in America. Jokes don't bother me, I make jokes with racial overtones with my friends all the time.
Even if Tyrone Jackson really is out robbing a 7-11 or raping a white woman right now, my problem with him wouldn't be because he's black, because a white guy doing the same thing would be equally worthless.
Good to hear.
I'd love nothing more (except for Tisket to post her boobs) than to be totally wrong about Obama, and have him turn out to be an awesome president. I still wouldn't give a fuck what his race is either way.
Also good to hear.
Methais
11-07-2008, 02:27 PM
I'm saying it's impossible to know why someone is assassinate until they're assassinated. Your characterizations of most/all black people as ignorant and looking to blame "whitey" is ridiculous. If as a black male I say something like "I didn't get X because I'm black." it's pulling the race card by injecting race to leverage my position no matter how ridiculous it is. You're essentially creating a position where most/all blacks are somehow ignorant and using race to create leverage your position which is also ridiculous. I don't really care why people don't like Obama. If they don't like him because he's black so be it. If they don't like him for his policies so be it. But I'm not trying to pigeon hole or characterize or predict how an entire culture will respond based off a stereotype I've created to leverage my point.
The fact that you don't realize how ridiculous this position is kind of leaves me flabbergasted. There are to my knowledge 3 black regular posters on these boards (myself, daniel, and DeV) none of which have thrown their unquestioned support or allegiance behind Sharpton or Jackson. The fact that some black people (and people of other races) buy into what their selling is kind of like believing that PB is representative of all white people. Some people buy what PBs selling (check) he goes out of his way to be as loud as possible to drown out opposition (check) it doesn't really matter how hypocritical he's being he'll stand behind what he's saying until the end (check.) There you go PB = all white people I guess.
A lot of my opinions are based on how I see most black people in my general area act on a daily basis. For example, a black woman called me racist once because...well it went like this:
Woman: I'd like to make an order, my address is blah blah blah
Me: Ok that's in blah blah trailer park right?
Woman: NO IT'S NOT I LIVE IN THE TRAILER NEXT TO IT. I DON'T LIVE IN A TRAILER PARK, YOU'RE RACIST!
Me: ...
After Katrina when we were invaded by the chocolate city, some hotels in Baton Rouge opened their doors and let New Orleans refugees stay there for free for a week or so, almost all of which were black. The hotel let everyone know that after a week or however long it was had gone by, everyone staying for free would have to leave. They promptly trashed the fuck out of the hotel, then called the owner(s) racist when the free stay time was up and they said everyone had to leave.
I deal with idiots like that all over the place around here. I don't lump "normal" black people like you, Daniel and DeV with idiots like these people, but at least in my area, idiots like that seem to be the majority.
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