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Kefka
10-10-2008, 08:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf6YKOkfFsE

Keller
10-10-2008, 08:35 PM
McCain makes Kerry look like a steady ship.

He's more conflicted than Anne Heche.

Tsa`ah
10-10-2008, 08:55 PM
Well after voters saw the Palin punches and the how either of them failed to address the calls of "kill him" and "terrorist" ... they began to slip in the polls. Well, slip is an understatement.

McCain has been getting, and going along with, very bad campaign advice and direction. I think he's just now realizing (possibly too late) that had he stuck to his guns from 2000 and the primaries ... this would be a race or that he could have captured a lead and been in Obama's position right now.

This last week of "scorched earth" tactics, and everything leading up to them, turned away the one group McCain needed to win ... real independents.

Crazy Bard
10-10-2008, 09:24 PM
Goes to show you how blind some people are in this world. Kinda makes me angry ..

crb
10-10-2008, 09:33 PM
Actually I saw a poll showing independents evenly split still for the candidates (obviously, right now, more people say they're dems than reps).

However, what this obviously is is yet another example that McCain is uncomfortable going negative, and uncomfortable being partisan. This should let you know that, if elected, he wouldn't be George Bush. It isn't his style to be that way, and he doesn't like doing it.

Keller
10-10-2008, 09:35 PM
Actually I saw a poll showing independents evenly split still for the candidates (obviously, right now, more people say they're dems than reps).

However, what this obviously is is yet another example that McCain is uncomfortable going negative, and uncomfortable being partisan. This should let you know that, if elected, he wouldn't be George Bush. It isn't his style to be that way, and he doesn't like doing it.

He was "uncomfortable" with earmarks.

That didn't stop him from voting for the emergency economic bill when he already knew it would pass.

If the man can't even make a meaningless protest vote, do we really expect him to veto passed legislation?

Mighty Nikkisaurus
10-10-2008, 09:38 PM
Actually I saw a poll showing independents evenly split still for the candidates (obviously, right now, more people say they're dems than reps).

However, what this obviously is is yet another example that McCain is uncomfortable going negative, and uncomfortable being partisan. This should let you know that, if elected, he wouldn't be George Bush. It isn't his style to be that way, and he doesn't like doing it.

If he doesn't like it, then he needs to fire the people on his campaign who keep hounding after those points and needs to tell Palin to STFU with the fear mongering.

On the flip side this shows that he's not very effective in leading if he can't even fully get his own campaign behind him on this issue. It's not enough for him to just "feel uncomfortable"-- when people are yelling "TERRORIST!" and "Kill him!" at his rallies whenever someone brings up the opposition, there's a problem.

DeV
10-10-2008, 09:38 PM
The straight talk express took a dumpster dive and is in clean up phase.

Ravenstorm
10-10-2008, 09:42 PM
However, what this obviously is is yet another example that McCain is uncomfortable going negative, and uncomfortable being partisan.

The time to have been "uncomfortable" was before he added that little 'I'm John McCain and I approve this message.' tagline on the ads that instigated the incipient hate crimes.

What this shows is that he's finally realizing that someone might use his message as a justification for assassination and then he'd REALLY go down in the polls. He's the one that spurred on all the calls of traitor and terrorist against Obama.

Crazy Bard
10-10-2008, 10:53 PM
Actually I saw a poll showing independents evenly split still for the candidates (obviously, right now, more people say they're dems than reps).

However, what this obviously is is yet another example that McCain is uncomfortable going negative, and uncomfortable being partisan. This should let you know that, if elected, he wouldn't be George Bush. It isn't his style to be that way, and he doesn't like doing it.

Wow ..You got talent there, buddy. Your the first to twist this into something positive for McCain.

Tsa`ah
10-10-2008, 11:06 PM
Wow ... I missed that


Actually I saw a poll showing independents evenly split still for the candidates (obviously, right now, more people say they're dems than reps).

Umm ... what poll? I saw a poll on demsforobama.com that showed Obama with a 400pt lead in all demographics, including republicans.

The problem with "seeing" a poll is that we don't know under what format the poll was conducted, we don't know the sampling, nor can we make any argument for or against the validity of said poll.

ElanthianSiren
10-10-2008, 11:17 PM
sometimes I wonder if the RNC wants to win this.

Point #1 -- republicans are pretty secure in judicial appointments with Roberts and Scalia having the potential to keep the court leaning right for awhile.

Point #2 -- with Iraq getting more and more unpopular and them losing seats over it (see 2006), I get the feeling they might want to push the war onto the hands of others. That way, when it ends, as it needs to before we get a vietnam esque division, they can claim the moral high road.

Point #3 -- Giving the democrats two years to hang themselves legislatively may result in republican gains for 2010, which happens to be a redistricting year.

Point #4 -- This may not add to anything, but it is stuff I've wondered watching this presidential race. While McCain appeals to me in certain ways, he has never been big with the republican base.

Keller
10-11-2008, 01:06 AM
The straight talk express took a dumpster dive and is in clean up phase.

Now THAT ONE is funny.

tyrant-201
10-11-2008, 01:10 AM
Actually I saw a poll showing independents evenly split still for the candidates (obviously, right now, more people say they're dems than reps).

Curious. Was it a Fox News poll?

Tsa`ah
10-11-2008, 01:15 AM
Curious. Was it a Fox News poll?

Nope, unless it was old. Latest Fox poll shows Obama leading by a small margin among independents.