Tennessee State Lawmaker's Son Accused of Palin Hacking [Archive]

ElanthianSiren

10-08-2008, 02:49 PM

MAN INDICTED IN HACKING PALIN'S EMAIL
David Kernell
Last updated: 9:56 am
October 8, 2008

WASHINGTON - A federal grand jury has indicted the son of a Democratic Tennessee state lawmaker in connection with the hacking of the e-mail account of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.

David Kernell, 20, of Knoxville, Tenn., the son of state Rep. Mike Kernell, was scheduled to be arraigned Wednesday before U.S. Magistrate Judge C. Clifford Shirley, according to a statement from the Justice Department.

David Kernell was indicted Tuesday by a federal grand jury in Knoxville for intentionally accessing without authorization the e-mail account of Palin, Alaska's governor, the Justice Department said.

Kernell, an economics major at the University of Tennessee in Knoxville, faces a maximum of five years in prison, a $250,000 fine and a three-year term of supervised release.

His father, a Memphis Democrat, is chairman of Tennessee's House Government Operations Committee. Mike Kernell has said he had nothing to do with the hacking incident.

The indictment against David Kernell alleged that on Sept. 16 he reset the password to Palin's personal e-mail account to gain access to it. Authorities say Kernell then read the contents of the account and made screenshots of the e-mail directory, e-mail content and other personal information, later posting some of the information to a public Web site.

The Justice Department said the case was being prosecuted by section chief Michael DuBose and trial attorney Mark Krotoski of the criminal division's computer crime and intellectual property section and Assistant U.S. Attorney Greg Weddle of the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of Tennessee. The FBI's Anchorage and Knoxville field offices investigated the case.

ElanthianSiren

10-08-2008, 02:52 PM

I almost forgot my response... I find it funny that everyone thought it'd be a liberal group, but it was just one retarded college aged kid. Damn kids.

Clove

10-08-2008, 03:11 PM

I almost forgot my response... I find it funny that everyone thought it'd be a retarded liberal group, but it was just one retarded college aged kid. Damn kids.Fixed.

NocturnalRob

10-08-2008, 03:14 PM

I find it funny that everyone thought it'd be a liberal group, but it was just one retarded liberal college aged kid. Damn liberals.

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BigWorm

10-08-2008, 03:44 PM

lrn2proxy dumbass

DeV

10-08-2008, 03:57 PM

lrn2proxy dumbass
That and don't brag about it online if you didn't use a proxy, dumbass.

ClydeR

10-08-2008, 04:09 PM

That and don't brag about it online if you didn't use a proxy, dumbass.

They found him by tracing his location from the proxy site (http://tech.yahoo.com/news/nf/20080920/tc_nf/61990) that he used.

Parkbandit

10-08-2008, 04:20 PM

I almost forgot my response... I find it funny that everyone thought it'd be a liberal group, but it was just one retarded college aged kid. Damn kids.

Yea, it had NOTHING to do with the liberals... they are innocent!

His father, a Memphis Democrat, is chairman of Tennessee's House Government Operations Committee.

DeV

10-08-2008, 04:33 PM

They found him by tracing his location from the proxy site (http://tech.yahoo.com/news/nf/20080920/tc_nf/61990) that he used.You hear that everyone... don't use Ctunnel proxy service, operated by Gabriel Rumuglia.

You'll thank me later.

ElanthianSiren

10-08-2008, 05:01 PM

Yea, it had NOTHING to do with the liberals... they are innocent!

Actually, I have no doubt that politics played a hand in him choosing his target. I don't believe I stated otherwise. I was more amused that it was one person.

Some Rogue

10-08-2008, 05:09 PM

Yes, it was totally her being a dumbass and picking an easy question. Not like all the questions are basically the same kind of thing and have info that can be easily looked up.

SolitareConfinement

10-08-2008, 05:15 PM

someone as famous as her will pretty much at some point on the internet has all her information that yahoo would ask....its simply her own fault for choosing an email account on yahoo because of the questions they ask for the security.

being a governor i would think she could fix herself up with a couple more secure and private emails courtesy of the govt. one for private emails and one for govt. business.

Mighty Nikkisaurus

10-08-2008, 05:18 PM

She shouldn't have used the yahoo account, period.

Ravenstorm

10-08-2008, 05:19 PM

You forget... She didn't want to use a government email account in order to avoid potential future subpoenas.

Tea & Strumpets

10-08-2008, 05:20 PM

You forget... She didn't want to use a government email account in order to avoid potential future subpoenas.

Al Gore was one step ahead of her.

Some Rogue

10-08-2008, 05:21 PM

It was a personal email account. I guess most people here are idiots too for using public email services for their personal email.

Mighty Nikkisaurus

10-08-2008, 05:26 PM

It was a personal email account. I guess most people here are idiots too for using public email services for their personal email.

Apparently she used it for official business.

So yeah, it was fucking stupid.

Parkbandit

10-08-2008, 05:27 PM

You forget... She didn't want to use a government email account in order to avoid potential future subpoenas.

She's smart. Most officials in government don't. In fact, they are encouraged not to.

Keller

10-08-2008, 05:28 PM

She's smart.

:rofl:

You forgot the italics, but I caught the sarcasm!

Parkbandit

10-08-2008, 05:28 PM

She shouldn't have used the yahoo account, period.

You really shouldn't discuss things you obviously know so little about.

Mighty Nikkisaurus

10-08-2008, 05:36 PM

You really shouldn't discuss things you obviously know so little about.

You're a fucking moron. DIAF.

crb

10-08-2008, 06:31 PM

security questions as a whole are a weak link in security.

And don't fault her, I don't use yahoo... but most of these places have a list to pick from, or not even a list to pick from, but easy mandatory ones.

What I typically put down is dafjhdshflkjahdgl, random gibberish as my answer. Only way to make those things secure.

Of course, I don't use free email services anyways.

Parkbandit

10-08-2008, 07:37 PM

You're a fucking moron. DIAF.

Next time, maybe do some research into the subject before interjecting your typical ignorance.

Mabus

10-08-2008, 08:15 PM

lrn2proxy dumbass
I know!

Or...

How hard is it to take your wireless-enabled laptop to a rich neighborhood and jump on someone else's service?

He should have parked a van outside of Robin T. Smith's (Tennessee GOP Chairman) house. Then we could be discussing how this was a GOP plot to gain sympathy for Palin.

What a n00b.

Mabus

10-08-2008, 08:18 PM

You hear that everyone... don't use Ctunnel proxy service, operated by Gabriel Rumuglia.

You'll thank me later.
qft

I should have read the whole thread before posting.
:noob:

Mighty Nikkisaurus

10-08-2008, 08:22 PM

Next time, maybe do some research into the subject before interjecting your typical ignorance.

What, "Don't use yahoo to send work-related emails if you're a government official in the public eye"?

Yeah that's so crazy!

Again, you're a fucking moron.

Valthissa

10-08-2008, 08:23 PM

Mighty Nikkisaurus

10-08-2008, 08:28 PM

If the young man had found evidence of her using this account for official business he would have posted it online. She may have used another account for official business, but not this one.

I hope she persuades the feds to drop the charges.

C/Valth

They were posted online. That's how it became a huge story.

http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin_Yahoo_account_2008

Mabus

10-08-2008, 08:31 PM

I hope she persuades the feds to drop the charges.
I hope they throw the book at him, and make an example of him.

What he did (if proved) was wrong. It was also done in a shoddy manner. Script-kiddies, snoopers, phishers and would-be hackers do not learn from a slap on the wrist.

We cannot condone violating the law, especially when such violations could have an impact on an election. I would state the same if the parties of the candidates was reversed.

Mighty Nikkisaurus

10-08-2008, 08:33 PM

I hope they throw the book at him, and make an example of him.

What he did (if proved) was wrong. It was also done in a shoddy manner. Script-kiddies, snoopers, phishers and would-be hackers do not learn from a slap on the wrist.

We cannot condone violating the law, especially when such violations could have an impact on an election. I would state the same if the parties of the candidates was reversed.

I agree with you.

Valthissa

10-08-2008, 09:09 PM

They were posted online. That's how it became a huge story.

http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin_Yahoo_account_2008

I am aware of the content of the emails and it doesn't appear to me that they are government business.

Quoting from the young man's post after having looked through her account:

"I read though the emails… ALL OF THEM… before I posted, and what I concluded was anticlimactic, there was nothing incriminating, nothing that would derail her campaign as I had hoped, all I saw was personal stuff, some clerical stuff from when she was governor...and pictures of her family"

C/Valth

Mabus

10-08-2008, 09:12 PM

nothing that would derail her campaign as I had hoped
Jesus, somebody get that boy a lawyer and tell him to "stfu".

He really dug himself a hole.

BigWorm

10-08-2008, 11:39 PM

I am aware of the content of the emails and it doesn't appear to me that they are government business.

Quoting from the young man's post after having looked through her account:

"I read though the emails… ALL OF THEM… before I posted, and what I concluded was anticlimactic, there was nothing incriminating, nothing that would derail her campaign as I had hoped, all I saw was personal stuff, some clerical stuff from when she was governor...and pictures of her family"

C/Valth

orly? Because only about four emails were released in full and they were pretty lame. However, the attacker did get a list of all email subject which shows some that look a lot like official business to me.

Ruaro, Randall P (GOV)
Draft letter to Governor Schwarzenegger / Container Tax

Nizich, Michael A (GOV)
RE: Using Royalty Oil to Lower the Cost of Fuel for Alaskans

Ruaro, Randall P (GOV)
RE: Please approve

Ruaro, Randall P (GOV)
Court of Appeals / Executive Director Parole Board / Boards and Commissions

Ruaro, Randall P (GOV)
FW: DPS Employee Draft

McAllister, William D (GOV)
Re: DPS Personnel and Budget Issues

Ruaro, Randall P (GOV)
Court of Appeals Nominations

Nizich, Michael A (GOV)
another records request

Nizich, Michael A (GOV)
RE: Request for Information and Documents

Nizich, Michael A (GOV)
FW: CONFIDENTIAL Ethics Matter

Nizich, Michael A (GOV)
FW: Request for Information and Documents

Nizich, Michael A (GOV)
FW: Memorandum of Law

But I guess she could have been doing unofficial business with the parole board and court of appeals.

You don't have any idea what the fuck you are talking about.

Parkbandit

10-09-2008, 12:17 AM

What, "Don't use yahoo to send work-related emails if you're a government official in the public eye"?

Yeah that's so crazy!

Again, you're a fucking moron.

Once again.. simpleton... Official government issued email use is actually discouraged for the reasons already given. Is it really that hard for you to understand? I bet if I put it in frosting on a cookie and gave it to you, you would understand it.

g++

10-09-2008, 12:39 AM

I know!

Or...

How hard is it to take your wireless-enabled laptop to a rich neighborhood and jump on someone else's service?

He should have parked a van outside of Robin T. Smith's (Tennessee GOP Chairman) house. Then we could be discussing how this was a GOP plot to gain sympathy for Palin.

What a n00b.

Dont even have to go to a rich neighborhood anymore. Was in the poconos on vacation last week...nice little quiet cabin resort around a lake. Turned my laptop on to do some work and my computer found a wireless network and informed me it had found a printer connected to the network I was shocked.

Warriorbird

10-09-2008, 01:21 AM

If one's concerned with avoiding subpoenas... one should use a more complex password/security question. There are much more secure private services as well.

...and once again, Anonymous is far from liberal.

Mighty Nikkisaurus

10-09-2008, 03:02 AM

Mighty Nikkisaurus

10-09-2008, 03:03 AM

Valthissa

10-09-2008, 07:32 AM

orly? Because only about four emails were released in full and they were pretty lame. However, the attacker did get a list of all email subject which shows some that look a lot like official business to me.

But I guess she could have been doing unofficial business with the parole board and court of appeals.

You don't have any idea what the fuck you are talking about.

Since she is being sued on the subject we will find out whether it is you or I who doesn't know what the fuck we are talking about.

If it is me, it won't be the first time.

C/Valth

Parkbandit

10-09-2008, 09:20 AM

No you're totally right PB, all of our political officials should use free yahoo mail!

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e6/belike53/Pink20cookie2.jpg

Mighty Nikkisaurus

10-09-2008, 09:27 AM

Parkbandit

10-09-2008, 09:32 AM

You discovered MSPaint! I'm so proud of you.

An easier way for you to explain yourself would just be to say "I saw you posted and that means I automatically disagree with you."

Keep taking that aricept, maybe some day it'll start working.

You might have been the only one confused.. since even Ravenstorm knew why:

You forget... She didn't want to use a government email account in order to avoid potential future subpoenas.

Of course he tried to spin it like Palin is trying to deceive people.. and not really following sound legal advice.

Had you actually read the thread and comprehended what was posted, I wouldn't have had to 'discover' MS-Paint for you.

But hey.. if the reasoning FINALLY got through to you via your favorite vehicle.. then it's a win/win!

PS - You're welcome.

Mighty Nikkisaurus

10-09-2008, 09:38 AM

I haven't said anything about it being wrong that she'd use something other than an official email account.

I said she shouldn't have used yahoo. You know, given the fact that it doesn't have very good security and all that?

You just magically decided that that was code for a tinfoil hat theory and decided to get your panties wadded up over nothing. Which isn't exactly unusual for you, so there you have it.

NocturnalRob

10-09-2008, 09:47 AM

i could really go for a frosted cupcake right now...

diethx

10-09-2008, 09:22 PM

i could really go for a frosted cupcake right now...

Chocolate cupcake with vanilla frosting plz.

Faent

10-11-2008, 05:41 PM

Once again.. simpleton... Official government issued email use is actually discouraged for the reasons already given. Is it really that hard for you to understand? I bet if I put it in frosting on a cookie and gave it to you, you would understand it.

What the idjit quoted above is saying is that it's a good thing for government officials to engage in subterfuge to keep their immoral activities from the prying eyes of the public they profess to serve. He is a fan of government secrecy - especially when he believes it furthers his interest. This makes him an irrational, depraved idjit, but whatever.

Parkbandit

10-11-2008, 05:49 PM

What the idjit quoted above is saying is that it's a good thing for government officials to engage in subterfuge to keep their immoral activities from the prying eyes of the public they profess to serve. He is a fan of government secrecy - especially when he believes it furthers his interest. This makes him an irrational, depraved idjit, but whatever.

Makes me a realist and you an imbecile actually. What person in their right mind (this clearly leaves you out in the cold) would do something that would open themselves up for legal action.

So I imagine that Obama will use the Government email system if he gets elected.. and if he doesn't, you will call him out for his obvious immoral activities.. right?

Oh wait.. the Messiah doesn't do anything immoral........................

:rofl: @ you.. but hey, welcome back. We missed your special brand of stupidity around here.

Faent

10-11-2008, 05:58 PM

Makes me a realist and you an imbecile actually. What person in their right mind (this clearly leaves you out in the cold) would do something that would open themselves up for legal action.

You described Palin's activities in terms of praise. This means your brain is misfiring. But we already knew that. I wouldn't have bitch slapped you if you'd said something like "cunning". But smart? It's not "smart" to be an immoral fuck, you dimwit.

So I imagine that Obama will use the Government email system if he gets elected.. and if he doesn't, you will call him out for his obvious immoral activities.. right? Oh wait.. the Messiah doesn't do anything immoral...

Obama will do all sorts of immoral shit. That's why I'm not voting for him. You lose (per usual).

Parkbandit

10-11-2008, 06:19 PM

You described Palin's activities in terms of praise. This means your brain is misfiring. But we already knew that. I wouldn't have bitch slapped you if you'd said something like "cunning". But smart? It's not "smart" to be an immoral fuck, you dimwit.

Obama will do all sorts of immoral shit. That's why I'm not voting for him. You lose (per usual).

So who are you voting for Dumbass? Let me guess:

Cynthia McKinney.

You two seem destined for each other.

Faent

10-12-2008, 01:32 AM

So who are you voting for Dumbass? Let me guess: Cynthia McKinney. You two seem destined for each other.

Wrong again (and again, per usual). I don't vote. You just keep striking out, don't you?

Cephalopod

10-12-2008, 08:10 AM

and not really following sound legal advice.

I think I fail at reviewing this thread -- what is the sound legal advice, and who gave it?

This kid should be punished -- no doubt -- as should anyone who breaks into or steals from information systems. Even if my luggage combination is 1-2-3-4, it should be illegal for someone to bust into it and steal my stinky underwear.

However, I'm surprised anyone is supporting her use of private email being used for government business. I'm genuinely curious as to why someone would do that, and I didn't see it in this thread yet. That she was using it based on some legal advice is freakishly disturbing.

If other high-level government officials (anyone in the executive or judicial branches, really) are doing this, who?

Parkbandit

10-12-2008, 08:56 AM

Wrong again (and again, per usual). I don't vote. You just keep striking out, don't you?

Awesome! You don't vote at all.

Seriously, then STFU in any political thread from this day forward.

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=34632

Sorry, but you've been proven to be an idiot (but we all knew this about you already, didn't we..)