crb
08-29-2008, 12:05 AM
Quotes from his speech, and my responses... I thought he was better than this...
We meet at one of those defining moments - a moment when our nation is at war, our economy is in turmoil, and the American promise has been threatened once more.
Politics of fear, note today good GDP numbers for q2 were released.
Tonight, more Americans are out of work and more are working harder for less. More of you have lost your homes and even more are watching your home values plummet. More of you have cars you can't afford to drive, credit card bills you can't afford to pay, and tuition that's beyond your reach.
More politics of fear, and actually the average unemployment under bush has been low. But don't like facts dissuade you Barack. Oh... and tuition, who doesn't qualify for financial aid in today's age of ginormous school endowments? Some schools are now giving free tuition to everyone their endowments are so big.
These challenges are not all of government's making. But the failure to respond is a direct result of a broken politics in Washington and the failed policies of George W. Bush.
So the fact that congress has hamstrung any necessary legislation the last 2 years OTHER than the first stimulus has nothing to do with it?
This country is more generous than one where a man in Indiana has to pack up the equipment he's worked on for twenty years and watch it shipped off to China, and then chokes up as he explains how he felt like a failure when he went home to tell his family the news.
What is that? A sideways jab at free trade? Free trade and exports have HELPED out economy Barack, when will you come around to what every economist says?
We are more compassionate than a government that lets veterans sleep on our streets and families slide into poverty; that sits on its hands while a major American city drowns before our eyes.
The first responder, the mayor of new orleans, a democrat, dropped the ball (buses) the second responder, the governor of louisiana, a democrat, dropped the ball (national guard is under her power), the federal government is the third responder. It goes local, regional, national, not the other way around.
But the record's clear: John McCain has voted with George Bush ninety percent of the time.
No, he didn't. Factcheck.org it. Barack Obama, over the course of his first (and only) term has voted with his party an average of 97% of the time. John McCain, over the last 8 years, has voted with his party around 70% of the time. The 90% is cherry picked in true al-gore fashion over one shorter time period and is statistical manipulation at it's best. Obama, you are either dumb or a bald faced liar. Who is more partisan mr 97% or mr 70%?
And looking at pure statistics doesn't matter anyways, most votes are meaningless, you need to look at the big issues.
Senator McCain has been anything but independent. He said that our economy has made "great progress" under this President
It has, see stock market growth, gdp growth, job creation, low unemployment, and yes, real wage growth for the middle class. Even with this downturn we're WAY up since 2000.
And when one of his chief advisors - the man who wrote his economic plan - was talking about the anxiety Americans are feeling, he said that we were just suffering from a "mental recession," and that we've become, and I quote, "a nation of whiners."
NOT PC, but true. People, mostly in the media probably trying to fuel anti republican angst, are overblowing things. By historical measure, we're not in a major downturn. Recession unemployment is going to be 10%+, we're no where near that.
Now, I don't believe that Senator McCain doesn't care what's going on in the lives of Americans. I just think he doesn't know. Why else would he define middle-class as someone making under five million dollars a year?
OMG John McCain can see the future? He made a joke and said it would be distorted and a couple weeks later... boom, it happens!
How else could he propose hundreds of billions in tax breaks for big corporations and oil companies but not one penny of tax relief to more than one hundred million Americans?
This is not true, unless you mean he proposes reducing the corporate tax rate so it is no longer the second highest in the developed world, which encourages businesses to move overseas... something most Democrats agree on.
Lets not forget.. Obama voted for the most recent oil company tax breaks, McCain voted against them. Actions speak louder than words Barack.
How else could he offer a health care plan that would actually tax people's benefits
THIS quote pisses me off the most. The problem, and Obama knows this is a problem else he is a retard because he has used these examples in his speeches, is that employers provide healthcare, which means your healthcare is tied to your job, which means if you lose your job or change jobs you lose your coverage, and then it may be hard to get it again if you have developed a condition.
The reason this even exists is back when wages were frozen (thank you democrats... not) companies had to figure new ways to attract workers and so they started offering benefits.
The problem is, benefits aren't treated like income and are not taxed, so in effect, people who have to buy health insurance by themselves, pay way more than they need to.
If you taxed benefits there would no longer be a reason for businesses to offer them, no advantage to workers getting them, just pay them more instead, people would transition to buying their own health insurance, they their employer could never take away, that they can take with them between jobs.
And it isn't as if McCain wants to just leave it at that, he is proposing a massive federal tax credit to cover the entire cost for people.
So in the end, all the change is, is to accounting for taxes, it will not change what people end up paying because of the offsetting tax credit, but what it does, is perfectly fix the portability problem with current employer provided health insurance.
And Obama, out of partisan bitterness, makes it sound like a bad idea when he KNOWS it isn't. Fucker.
I'm sure though that the unions are against it, because it takes away one of their barganing chips for justifying their dues from their worker members (we get you better insurance, pay us dues!). so maybe thats why, we all know the labor lobby is alive and well in Obama's camp.
or an education plan that would do nothing to help families pay for college
I've never met someone who couldn't afford to go to college... unless they were responsible for people other than themselves and had to work full time. And I'm sorry democrats but you cannot legislate more hours in the day if people just have time. Seriously, who cannot afford to go to a community college? Tuition is cheap, tuition assistance is abundant. I grew up in the poorest county in Michigan's lower peninsula and I did not know one person who couldn't afford to go to the local community college. It took all types.
Sure... not everyone can afford to go to Columbia or Harvard... but is that really a problem?
or a plan that would privatize Social Security and gamble your retirement?
Fuck you Obama, you want to tax me more for social security and by the time I retire I probably won't have anything. I want a portion of my SS payments to go to a private account with my name on them because I do not trust you government fuckers to not spend my money before I retire.
Out of work? Tough luck. No health care? The market will fix it. Born into poverty? Pull yourself up by your own bootstraps - even if you don't have boots. You're on your own.
Translation:
Out of Work? The government will pay you.
No healthcare? The government will give it to you.
Born into poverty? Here, have some wealth distribution and welfare, we're from the government we're here to help.
Another dumb healthcare remark by Obama to... how can he be so stupid as to not realize that lack of price competition (ie, lack of a free market) in almost all parts of the healthcare industry is a primary reason for the high prices. No one shops on price, no one competes on price, few consumers even control their own healthcare shopping or spending. It isn't a free market capitalist system that has gotten us this fucked up healthcare, it is a central planned big government over regulated system and moving it more in that direction will not fix it.
You see, we Democrats have a very different measure of what constitutes progress in this country.
We measure progress by how many people can find a job that pays the mortgage;
More jobs than ever under bush, more homeowners than ever. Check and check.
Ours is a promise that says government cannot solve all our problems, but what it should do is that which we cannot do for ourselves - protect us from harm and provide every child a decent education; keep our water clean and our toys safe; invest in new schools and new roads and new science and technology.
Is it possible to flipflop within a speech?
That's the promise of America - the idea that we are responsible for ourselves, but that we also rise or fall as one nation; the fundamental belief that I am my brother's keeper; I am my sister's keeper.
contradict yourself much? Watch the Amazing Obama... pandering to both sides at once!
I will eliminate capital gains taxes for the small businesses and the start-ups that will create the high-wage, high-tech jobs of tomorrow.
Thank god general-election-obama is speaking and not primary-campaign-obama who wanted to double cap gains.
I will cut taxes - cut taxes - for 95% of all working families. Because in an economy like this, the last thing we should do is raise taxes on the middle-class.
Please define "Working family"I work, but I fear, I am not a working family, maybe I don't work hard enough.. You've also said you want to give a $1000 bribe, erm I mean cut, to all working families, funding with a windfall profit tax on oil companies with their massive ~8% profit margin. (yes... Exxon makes $1400 a second in profit... but did you know they pay $4000 a second in taxes?). I figured it out. If there are a hundred million "working families" in the US, you would need 100 billion dollars to give them all a $1000 bribe. Mr. Obama, I don't know if you know how much money the oil company's make, but you're not going to fund that cut with a tax on their profits. You could tax them at 100% and fall ridiculously short. Keep trying.
(cue warriorbird: saving money by not being in iraq).
Washington's been talking about our oil addiction for the last thirty years, and John McCain has been there for twenty-six of them. In that time, he's said no to higher fuel-efficiency standards for cars, no to investments in renewable energy, no to renewable fuels. And today, we import triple the amount of oil as the day that Senator McCain took office.
Ahd Joe Biden has been there longer.
And again... Obama, you've forgotten about the Lieberman McCain Climate Stewardship Act... it wasn't that long ago, maybe you were too busy not being involved in federal politics at the time to remember, you are so very new to the scene, but McCain has long been a champion of the environment. Hence, Bill Clinton saying last week he has done more than any republican for the environment.
As President, I will tap our natural gas reserves, invest in clean coal technology, and find ways to safely harness nuclear power. I'll help our auto companies re-tool, so that the fuel-efficient cars of the future are built right here in America. I'll make it easier for the American people to afford these new cars. And I'll invest 150 billion dollars over the next decade in affordable, renewable sources of energy - wind power and solar power and the next generation of biofuels; an investment that will lead to new industries and five million new jobs that pay well and can't ever be outsourced.
Now you're plagiarizing the act, sure you didn't read it? Not bad... taking credit for legislation McCain wrote.
Now is the time to finally keep the promise of affordable, accessible health care for every single American. If you have health care, my plan will lower your premiums.
I have to ask... how can he be so cocksure? Government force? "You will charge less or else!"?
He hasn't proposed at any time any plan to fix the problem of skyrocketing costs, he has only proposed ideas on changing who pays for those costs.
He puts a bandaid on a broken arm instead of fixing the root cause, the cost of healthcare, not who pays for it.
Now is the time to change our bankruptcy laws, so that your pensions are protected ahead of CEO bonuses;
The federal government already guarantees pensions. I think it is bullshit, why should a bunch of union guys who parasited their company into death get to have tax payers fit the bill for their oversold pension? People should all just have 401ks that aren't tied to the health of the company they work for.
and the time to protect Social Security for future generations.
Like how about letting me keep a little of my payments in an account with my name on it?
But I will also go through the federal budget, line by line, eliminating programs that no longer work and making the ones we do need work better and cost less - because we cannot meet twenty-first century challenges with a twentieth century bureaucracy.
AWESOME! Really, I hope he isn't just pandering... I don't believe him... but AWESOME if it is true.
But we must also admit that programs alone can't replace parents; that government can't turn off the television and make a child do her homework; that fathers must take more responsibility for providing the love and guidance their children need.
I'll give Obama credit that he has all along made noises like this against the typical nanny state pelosi's of the world.
If John McCain wants to have a debate about who has the temperament, and judgment, to serve as the next Commander-in-Chief, that's a debate I'm ready to have.
Liar, John McCain has offered to have a debate dozens of times now, Obama has always turned him down.
And today, as my call for a time frame to remove our troops from Iraq has been echoed by the Iraqi government and even the Bush Administration, even after we learned that Iraq has a $79 billion surplus while we're wallowing in deficits, John McCain stands alone in his stubborn refusal to end a misguided war.
This is not true, McCain has always said he wants to end it, just that he doesn't want to throw in a towel. Obama fails to note that it was the surge that allowed the progress that has allowed the troops to be removed soon. The surge he was against.
We are the party of Kennedy. So don't tell me that Democrats won't defend this country.
Thats right Kennedy brought is Vietnam and the bay of pigs. How did I forget?
So I've got news for you, John McCain. We all put our country first.
America, our work will not be easy. The challenges we face require tough choices, and Democrats as well as Republicans will need to cast off the worn-out ideas and politics of the past. For part of what has been lost these past eight years can't just be measured by lost wages or bigger trade deficits. What has also been lost is our sense of common purpose - our sense of higher purpose. And that's what we have to restore.
We may not agree on abortion, but surely we can agree on reducing the number of unwanted pregnancies in this country. The reality of gun ownership may be different for hunters in rural Ohio than for those plagued by gang-violence in Cleveland, but don't tell me we can't uphold the Second Amendment while keeping AK-47s out of the hands of criminals. I know there are differences on same-sex marriage, but surely we can agree that our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters deserve to visit the person they love in the hospital and to live lives free of discrimination. Passions fly on immigration, but I don't know anyone who benefits when a mother is separated from her infant child or an employer undercuts American wages by hiring illegal workers. This too is part of America's promise - the promise of a democracy where we can find the strength and grace to bridge divides and unite in common effort.
This is all well and nice,e xcept he implies that the democrats are all moderate and wanting to compromise and the republicans aren't.
There are extremists and moderates on both sides. John McCain has a many years long record of bipartisanship and working across the aisle. Barack Obama has the most liberal voting record in the senate.
But then again... maybe he slept in a holiday in express last night?
We meet at one of those defining moments - a moment when our nation is at war, our economy is in turmoil, and the American promise has been threatened once more.
Politics of fear, note today good GDP numbers for q2 were released.
Tonight, more Americans are out of work and more are working harder for less. More of you have lost your homes and even more are watching your home values plummet. More of you have cars you can't afford to drive, credit card bills you can't afford to pay, and tuition that's beyond your reach.
More politics of fear, and actually the average unemployment under bush has been low. But don't like facts dissuade you Barack. Oh... and tuition, who doesn't qualify for financial aid in today's age of ginormous school endowments? Some schools are now giving free tuition to everyone their endowments are so big.
These challenges are not all of government's making. But the failure to respond is a direct result of a broken politics in Washington and the failed policies of George W. Bush.
So the fact that congress has hamstrung any necessary legislation the last 2 years OTHER than the first stimulus has nothing to do with it?
This country is more generous than one where a man in Indiana has to pack up the equipment he's worked on for twenty years and watch it shipped off to China, and then chokes up as he explains how he felt like a failure when he went home to tell his family the news.
What is that? A sideways jab at free trade? Free trade and exports have HELPED out economy Barack, when will you come around to what every economist says?
We are more compassionate than a government that lets veterans sleep on our streets and families slide into poverty; that sits on its hands while a major American city drowns before our eyes.
The first responder, the mayor of new orleans, a democrat, dropped the ball (buses) the second responder, the governor of louisiana, a democrat, dropped the ball (national guard is under her power), the federal government is the third responder. It goes local, regional, national, not the other way around.
But the record's clear: John McCain has voted with George Bush ninety percent of the time.
No, he didn't. Factcheck.org it. Barack Obama, over the course of his first (and only) term has voted with his party an average of 97% of the time. John McCain, over the last 8 years, has voted with his party around 70% of the time. The 90% is cherry picked in true al-gore fashion over one shorter time period and is statistical manipulation at it's best. Obama, you are either dumb or a bald faced liar. Who is more partisan mr 97% or mr 70%?
And looking at pure statistics doesn't matter anyways, most votes are meaningless, you need to look at the big issues.
Senator McCain has been anything but independent. He said that our economy has made "great progress" under this President
It has, see stock market growth, gdp growth, job creation, low unemployment, and yes, real wage growth for the middle class. Even with this downturn we're WAY up since 2000.
And when one of his chief advisors - the man who wrote his economic plan - was talking about the anxiety Americans are feeling, he said that we were just suffering from a "mental recession," and that we've become, and I quote, "a nation of whiners."
NOT PC, but true. People, mostly in the media probably trying to fuel anti republican angst, are overblowing things. By historical measure, we're not in a major downturn. Recession unemployment is going to be 10%+, we're no where near that.
Now, I don't believe that Senator McCain doesn't care what's going on in the lives of Americans. I just think he doesn't know. Why else would he define middle-class as someone making under five million dollars a year?
OMG John McCain can see the future? He made a joke and said it would be distorted and a couple weeks later... boom, it happens!
How else could he propose hundreds of billions in tax breaks for big corporations and oil companies but not one penny of tax relief to more than one hundred million Americans?
This is not true, unless you mean he proposes reducing the corporate tax rate so it is no longer the second highest in the developed world, which encourages businesses to move overseas... something most Democrats agree on.
Lets not forget.. Obama voted for the most recent oil company tax breaks, McCain voted against them. Actions speak louder than words Barack.
How else could he offer a health care plan that would actually tax people's benefits
THIS quote pisses me off the most. The problem, and Obama knows this is a problem else he is a retard because he has used these examples in his speeches, is that employers provide healthcare, which means your healthcare is tied to your job, which means if you lose your job or change jobs you lose your coverage, and then it may be hard to get it again if you have developed a condition.
The reason this even exists is back when wages were frozen (thank you democrats... not) companies had to figure new ways to attract workers and so they started offering benefits.
The problem is, benefits aren't treated like income and are not taxed, so in effect, people who have to buy health insurance by themselves, pay way more than they need to.
If you taxed benefits there would no longer be a reason for businesses to offer them, no advantage to workers getting them, just pay them more instead, people would transition to buying their own health insurance, they their employer could never take away, that they can take with them between jobs.
And it isn't as if McCain wants to just leave it at that, he is proposing a massive federal tax credit to cover the entire cost for people.
So in the end, all the change is, is to accounting for taxes, it will not change what people end up paying because of the offsetting tax credit, but what it does, is perfectly fix the portability problem with current employer provided health insurance.
And Obama, out of partisan bitterness, makes it sound like a bad idea when he KNOWS it isn't. Fucker.
I'm sure though that the unions are against it, because it takes away one of their barganing chips for justifying their dues from their worker members (we get you better insurance, pay us dues!). so maybe thats why, we all know the labor lobby is alive and well in Obama's camp.
or an education plan that would do nothing to help families pay for college
I've never met someone who couldn't afford to go to college... unless they were responsible for people other than themselves and had to work full time. And I'm sorry democrats but you cannot legislate more hours in the day if people just have time. Seriously, who cannot afford to go to a community college? Tuition is cheap, tuition assistance is abundant. I grew up in the poorest county in Michigan's lower peninsula and I did not know one person who couldn't afford to go to the local community college. It took all types.
Sure... not everyone can afford to go to Columbia or Harvard... but is that really a problem?
or a plan that would privatize Social Security and gamble your retirement?
Fuck you Obama, you want to tax me more for social security and by the time I retire I probably won't have anything. I want a portion of my SS payments to go to a private account with my name on them because I do not trust you government fuckers to not spend my money before I retire.
Out of work? Tough luck. No health care? The market will fix it. Born into poverty? Pull yourself up by your own bootstraps - even if you don't have boots. You're on your own.
Translation:
Out of Work? The government will pay you.
No healthcare? The government will give it to you.
Born into poverty? Here, have some wealth distribution and welfare, we're from the government we're here to help.
Another dumb healthcare remark by Obama to... how can he be so stupid as to not realize that lack of price competition (ie, lack of a free market) in almost all parts of the healthcare industry is a primary reason for the high prices. No one shops on price, no one competes on price, few consumers even control their own healthcare shopping or spending. It isn't a free market capitalist system that has gotten us this fucked up healthcare, it is a central planned big government over regulated system and moving it more in that direction will not fix it.
You see, we Democrats have a very different measure of what constitutes progress in this country.
We measure progress by how many people can find a job that pays the mortgage;
More jobs than ever under bush, more homeowners than ever. Check and check.
Ours is a promise that says government cannot solve all our problems, but what it should do is that which we cannot do for ourselves - protect us from harm and provide every child a decent education; keep our water clean and our toys safe; invest in new schools and new roads and new science and technology.
Is it possible to flipflop within a speech?
That's the promise of America - the idea that we are responsible for ourselves, but that we also rise or fall as one nation; the fundamental belief that I am my brother's keeper; I am my sister's keeper.
contradict yourself much? Watch the Amazing Obama... pandering to both sides at once!
I will eliminate capital gains taxes for the small businesses and the start-ups that will create the high-wage, high-tech jobs of tomorrow.
Thank god general-election-obama is speaking and not primary-campaign-obama who wanted to double cap gains.
I will cut taxes - cut taxes - for 95% of all working families. Because in an economy like this, the last thing we should do is raise taxes on the middle-class.
Please define "Working family"I work, but I fear, I am not a working family, maybe I don't work hard enough.. You've also said you want to give a $1000 bribe, erm I mean cut, to all working families, funding with a windfall profit tax on oil companies with their massive ~8% profit margin. (yes... Exxon makes $1400 a second in profit... but did you know they pay $4000 a second in taxes?). I figured it out. If there are a hundred million "working families" in the US, you would need 100 billion dollars to give them all a $1000 bribe. Mr. Obama, I don't know if you know how much money the oil company's make, but you're not going to fund that cut with a tax on their profits. You could tax them at 100% and fall ridiculously short. Keep trying.
(cue warriorbird: saving money by not being in iraq).
Washington's been talking about our oil addiction for the last thirty years, and John McCain has been there for twenty-six of them. In that time, he's said no to higher fuel-efficiency standards for cars, no to investments in renewable energy, no to renewable fuels. And today, we import triple the amount of oil as the day that Senator McCain took office.
Ahd Joe Biden has been there longer.
And again... Obama, you've forgotten about the Lieberman McCain Climate Stewardship Act... it wasn't that long ago, maybe you were too busy not being involved in federal politics at the time to remember, you are so very new to the scene, but McCain has long been a champion of the environment. Hence, Bill Clinton saying last week he has done more than any republican for the environment.
As President, I will tap our natural gas reserves, invest in clean coal technology, and find ways to safely harness nuclear power. I'll help our auto companies re-tool, so that the fuel-efficient cars of the future are built right here in America. I'll make it easier for the American people to afford these new cars. And I'll invest 150 billion dollars over the next decade in affordable, renewable sources of energy - wind power and solar power and the next generation of biofuels; an investment that will lead to new industries and five million new jobs that pay well and can't ever be outsourced.
Now you're plagiarizing the act, sure you didn't read it? Not bad... taking credit for legislation McCain wrote.
Now is the time to finally keep the promise of affordable, accessible health care for every single American. If you have health care, my plan will lower your premiums.
I have to ask... how can he be so cocksure? Government force? "You will charge less or else!"?
He hasn't proposed at any time any plan to fix the problem of skyrocketing costs, he has only proposed ideas on changing who pays for those costs.
He puts a bandaid on a broken arm instead of fixing the root cause, the cost of healthcare, not who pays for it.
Now is the time to change our bankruptcy laws, so that your pensions are protected ahead of CEO bonuses;
The federal government already guarantees pensions. I think it is bullshit, why should a bunch of union guys who parasited their company into death get to have tax payers fit the bill for their oversold pension? People should all just have 401ks that aren't tied to the health of the company they work for.
and the time to protect Social Security for future generations.
Like how about letting me keep a little of my payments in an account with my name on it?
But I will also go through the federal budget, line by line, eliminating programs that no longer work and making the ones we do need work better and cost less - because we cannot meet twenty-first century challenges with a twentieth century bureaucracy.
AWESOME! Really, I hope he isn't just pandering... I don't believe him... but AWESOME if it is true.
But we must also admit that programs alone can't replace parents; that government can't turn off the television and make a child do her homework; that fathers must take more responsibility for providing the love and guidance their children need.
I'll give Obama credit that he has all along made noises like this against the typical nanny state pelosi's of the world.
If John McCain wants to have a debate about who has the temperament, and judgment, to serve as the next Commander-in-Chief, that's a debate I'm ready to have.
Liar, John McCain has offered to have a debate dozens of times now, Obama has always turned him down.
And today, as my call for a time frame to remove our troops from Iraq has been echoed by the Iraqi government and even the Bush Administration, even after we learned that Iraq has a $79 billion surplus while we're wallowing in deficits, John McCain stands alone in his stubborn refusal to end a misguided war.
This is not true, McCain has always said he wants to end it, just that he doesn't want to throw in a towel. Obama fails to note that it was the surge that allowed the progress that has allowed the troops to be removed soon. The surge he was against.
We are the party of Kennedy. So don't tell me that Democrats won't defend this country.
Thats right Kennedy brought is Vietnam and the bay of pigs. How did I forget?
So I've got news for you, John McCain. We all put our country first.
America, our work will not be easy. The challenges we face require tough choices, and Democrats as well as Republicans will need to cast off the worn-out ideas and politics of the past. For part of what has been lost these past eight years can't just be measured by lost wages or bigger trade deficits. What has also been lost is our sense of common purpose - our sense of higher purpose. And that's what we have to restore.
We may not agree on abortion, but surely we can agree on reducing the number of unwanted pregnancies in this country. The reality of gun ownership may be different for hunters in rural Ohio than for those plagued by gang-violence in Cleveland, but don't tell me we can't uphold the Second Amendment while keeping AK-47s out of the hands of criminals. I know there are differences on same-sex marriage, but surely we can agree that our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters deserve to visit the person they love in the hospital and to live lives free of discrimination. Passions fly on immigration, but I don't know anyone who benefits when a mother is separated from her infant child or an employer undercuts American wages by hiring illegal workers. This too is part of America's promise - the promise of a democracy where we can find the strength and grace to bridge divides and unite in common effort.
This is all well and nice,e xcept he implies that the democrats are all moderate and wanting to compromise and the republicans aren't.
There are extremists and moderates on both sides. John McCain has a many years long record of bipartisanship and working across the aisle. Barack Obama has the most liberal voting record in the senate.
But then again... maybe he slept in a holiday in express last night?