Doomsday Device

[ClydeR]

Forget about the Olympics and John Edwards' mistress. There is a more important development in the world that the media should be covering.

Very soon, probably this week, researchers at an underground facility on the border of France of Switzerland will turn on a machine that scientists calculate (http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/08/04/what-will-the-lhc-find/) has a 10^-25% probability of creating a black hole that will destroy the entire solar system.

President Bush should march out of the Beijing Olympic stadium and get on a plane headed for Geneva so that he can unplug this machine right now.

That may sound like a satisfactorily small probability of catastrophe, but think about the fact that they won't use the device just once. They will turn it on many times. Eventually the unlikely will come to pass. Besides that, we don't want the French controlling a doomsday device.

Call the White House. Call your member of Congress. Demand that they address this threat to our very existence before it is too late.

[Drew]

There is actually some scientists who believe there is a chance that this can happen, also there's a theory that turning it on will essentially open the first "anchor" for time travelers.

Sorry to actually respond to a ClydeR post, I wish Backlash or whatever other genius plays him would stop it so I generally try to ignore them.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

:rofl:

Better not let the gays get a hold of this in case they decide to destroy the solar system!!!!one1

Seriously.

The LCH has been heavily researched and tested to show that it poses almost no conceivable threat. Any "black holes" created would in all likelihood be micros and would be extremely short lived due to Hawking radiation.

And, if by freak chance a massive black hole is created and it sucks up our solar system, that would be a totally awesome way to die.

[Khariz]

And, if by freak chance a massive black hole is created and it sucks up our solar system, that would be a totally awesome way to die.

Word.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

PS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSkkEZ-ATfQ

[Stanley Burrell]

http://www.geocities.com/kurg100/dr_doom.jpg

[Tsa`ah]

President Bush should march out of the Beijing Olympic stadium and get on a plane headed for Geneva so that he can unplug this machine right now.

Two problems with this statement.

First, Bush couldn't find Beijing on a map, what makes you think he can find Geneva from Beijing.

Second being that Laura has equipped every home they have ever lived together in with safety plugs and was instructed to always ask for help when it comes to outlets and plugs.


Call the White House. Call your member of Congress. Demand that they address this threat to our very existence before it is too late.

Good to see that right wing Christian values are still in tact. If you don't agree with it or it scares you ... kill it, burn it, bomb it .... crusade crusade crusade .


...

Close but no cigar ....

http://www.supermansupersite.com/doomsday1.jpg

[Parkbandit]

Two problems with this statement.

First, Bush couldn't find Beijing on a map, what makes you think he can find Geneva from Beijing.

Second being that Laura has equipped every home they have ever lived together in with safety plugs and was instructed to always ask for help when it comes to outlets and plugs.



Good to see that right wing Christian values are still in tact. If you don't agree with it or it scares you ... kill it, burn it, bomb it .... crusade crusade crusade .



Good to see that left wing nutbag values are still in tact. If you don't understand with it or it scares you... make fun of Bush.

[Ravenstorm]

:rofl:

Better not let the gays get a hold of this in case they decide to destroy the solar system!!!!one1

Who do you think designed the collider in the first place? Destroying the solar system is all part of the homosexual agenda. It's on page 69.

[Stanley Burrell]

http://www.supermansupersite.com/doomsday1.jpg

Doom would build a Doomsday device and banish both Superman and Doomsday from the planet while they were busy making kissy.

I stand by my somewhat random image link.

[Philosopher]

Very soon, probably this week, researchers at an underground facility on the border of France of Switzerland will turn on a machine that scientists calculate (http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/08/04/what-will-the-lhc-find/) has a 10^-25% probability of creating a black hole that will destroy the entire solar system.

President Bush should march out of the Beijing Olympic stadium and get on a plane headed for Geneva so that he can unplug this machine right now.

That may sound like a satisfactorily small probability of catastrophe, but think about the fact that they won't use the device just once. They will turn it on many times. Eventually the unlikely will come to pass. Besides that, we don't want the French controlling a doomsday device.

Call the White House. Call your member of Congress. Demand that they address this threat to our very existence before it is too late.
Before we flip out about this "threat to our very existence," we might consider the actual science at work in conjunction with the miniscule probability of an event occurring. Here's an article with some of that information: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080623-safety-report-latest-collider-at-cern-wont-end-the-world.html.

Some choice quotes that address basically every worry ClydeR has mentioned here: "'[E]ach collision of a pair of protons in the LHC will release an amount of energy comparable to that of two colliding mosquitoes.' . . . At its most basic level, the safety assessment boils down to a probability calculation. The collisions in the LHC will have an energy content that's equivalent to that of a cosmic ray hitting the earth with an energy of 10^17eV. We've measured cosmic rays hitting the earth with energies of up to 10^20eV, meaning that we're really doing nothing new . . . Of course, it's possible that the frequency of collisions in the LHC is so high that we might unmask an extremely low-probability event. Based on the frequency of high energy cosmic rays, however, the authors calculate that, 'nature has already conducted the equivalent of about a hundred thousand LHC experimental programmes on Earth already—and the planet still exists.' Those numbers go up when one considers the sun, which is a much larger target for cosmic rays. Backing out even further, to the entire visible universe, the calculations suggest that every second, there are the equivalent of 3 x 10^13 times the total number of collisions expected over the lifetime of the LHC." In other words, collisions of even greater energy than those produced in the LHC are happening naturally, even right here on earth, every day, and at a much greater frequency than they will be in the machine.

The report goes on to address additional issues with all of the alleged "doomsday scenarios" that I am aware of.

This isn't to say that there's no cause for concern (perhaps there is), but it isn't at all clear that it's a seriously pressing issue.

[Sean of the Thread]

Seriously who gives a shit if everything blinks out. Oh well.

Ecology and civilization on this planet is without a doubt (as in 100% fact) cyclic unless you're a stupid fucking creationist.

[Tisket]

I don't know who is more of a downer...ClydeR or Philosopher.

We don't need no lousy facts or googled logic!

[Philosopher]

I don't know who is more of a downer...ClydeR or Philosopher.

We don't need no lousy facts or googled logic!
I do my best!

[Stanley Burrell]

I think it's good, because it would be really funny if France, of all countries, destroyed the universe.

They should totally FIRE ZE BLACK HOLE to the La Marseillaise. You know that shit would make your toes curl. Mmmm.

Combat avec tes defenseurs!

<<Seriously who gives a shit if everything blinks out. Oh well.>>

You think ClydeR wrote this article? Someone gives a shit. The French, dumbass.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

But I'm le tired.

[Sean of the Thread]

But I'm le tired.

I'll perk you up.

[Stanley Burrell]

She already wins at perkiness.

The perks > caring about a black hole though, I agree.

[Celephais]

I call it a hawking hole

[radamanthys]

Hey! I saw it first!

[RichardCranium]

All the more reason to give homosexuals lasers.

[Kuyuk]

< < God: 10-20%. More likely than stable black holes, but still a long shot.>>

Shouldnt clyder be excited to meet God if that works though?

[Celephais]

Hey! I saw it first!
Don't make me beat you with my +1 mace.

[Furrowfoot]

But I'm le tired.

Well then have a nap...

...and then FIRE ZE BLACK HOLE!

[ClydeR]

Before we flip out about this "threat to our very existence," we might consider the actual science at work in conjunction with the miniscule probability of an event occurring.

Assuming that the 10^-25% probability is correct, then that's like flipping a coin and getting heads 80 times in a row.

It's very unlikely. But we're talking about destroying every living thing on the planet. The consequences of getting heads 80 times in a row are too great to dismiss because of the small probability.





< < God: 10-20%. More likely than stable black holes, but still a long shot.>>

Well, just for fun, don't forget about "The Black Hole (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Hole)," which was a Disney movie from 30 years ago. In the end of that movie, everybody got sucked into a black hole, and it turned out to be the gateway to hell and heaven. The evil robot Maximilian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximillian_(robot)) and his creator were trapped in hell forever, but the good guys found a way out to safety with the help of an angel. Watch the end of the move here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDj6XtZrxvw).

[Parkbandit]

You have a better chance of getting into an automobile accident today at 3pm and killing yourself, a pregnant mother and a priest. Does that mean you should never, ever get in your car again?

Stop being a fucking retard.

[Nieninque]

Actually, there are no consequences to getting heads 80 times in a row.

Apart from thumb-ache perhaps.

[Stanley Burrell]

Whoever doesn't read the above sexually is a monk. '08.

[ClydeR]

You have a better chance of getting into an automobile accident today at 3pm and killing yourself, a pregnant mother and a priest. Does that mean you should never, ever get in your car again?

If killing myself in a car wreck meant the end of the world, then, yes, I should never get into a car again. If killing myself in a car wreck meant only the deaths of myself and the other three people, then it's not such a big deal.

The decision of whether or not to engage in the experiment should be based on a weighted consideration of the product of probability and consequences. In the case of the LHC, the potential negative consequences are so great as to override the small probability.

[Fallen]

Whoever doesn't read the above sexually is a monk. '08.

I did, actually. I was thinking, "I call bullshit. Your wang would be raw and her mouth DAMN tired." Then I re-read and was disappointed. I was liking where this thread was going.

[Stanley Burrell]

Oh yeah; no, definitely: I haven't had a blowjob in so long I'd opt for a post-op. I mean, who wouldn't?

[AnticorRifling]

I did, actually. I was thinking, "I call bullshit. Your wang would be raw and her mouth DAMN tired." Then I re-read and was disappointed. I was liking where this thread was going.

Same.

Stanley called that one pretty spot on.

[Nieninque]

Dirty fucking perverts!

[DCSL]

I have to join them in thinking that was a sexual non sequitur. Eventually he'd be shooting air and she'd die of starvation.

[Audriana]

Stephen Hawking says it's safe, as does a vast, vast majority of people that understand the theory and technology.

It has a 10-25% chance to create a few atom-sized black hole that scientists laugh at when you mention it destroying the planet (NOT the solar system)...

If it happens, at least it'll be quick, and there's nothing that can be done.
The 7 astronauts in the ISS will get a spectacular vision of the earth being consumed before calming down into some random reminents orbiting around black nothingness. Then they get to die from starvation in a few months. (Personally, I'd probably just decompress the place than slowly starve knowing the human race is over).


We can only trust our greatest minds of the day. Einstein said the oceans wouldn't boil away in a chain reaction caused from detonating an Hydrogen Bomb under the ocean. And Hawking is saying any black holes created will evaoprate away (which, by definiation, doesn't that just prove it wasn't a black hole to begin with, if it can evaoprate?)

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

I have to join them in thinking that was a sexual non sequitur. Eventually he'd be shooting air and she'd die of starvation.

Guilty as well.

[Latrinsorm]

(which, by definiation, doesn't that just prove it wasn't a black hole to begin with, if it can evaoprate?)No. Black hole evaporation is only impossible under a classical understanding; Hawking radiation is a non-classical effect.

[Audriana]

Here it comes...
http://www.technewsworld.com/story/US-Scientists-Prep-for-Large-Hadron-Colliders-Debut-64412.html


US Scientists Prep for Large Hadron Collider's Debut
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By Jeremy Manier and Jo Napolitano
Chicago Tribune
09/06/08 4:00 AM PT

Scientists at Fermilab may wax nostalgic when their 25-year-old Tevatron particle collider fades into oblivion in a few years, but for now they're enthusiastically welcoming Europe's much more powerful Large Hadron Collider, set to debut next week, and relishing the role they'll play in mirroring its operations stateside.


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With less than a week to go before a state-of-the-art European particle collider makes the one in Batavia, Ill., a relic, scientists at Fermilab are testing ways of using the new facility from half a world away.

Fermilab researchers on Thursday showed off the Chicago-area lab's high-tech communications links to the new Switzerland-based Large Hadron Collider, which is set to begin test operations Sept. 10.

The remote operations center, the only one of its kind in the U.S., is a major part of the American lab's strategy to ride an expected wave of discoveries from the European device.


Tevatron Days Numbered
The European collider will be about seven times more powerful than Fermilab's Tevatron, which for 25 years has smashed together subatomic particles in search of clues about the fundamental properties of matter and the laws of the universe.

Officials say the Tevatron likely will be shut down once it is obsolete, in 2010 at the latest.

Despite the natural rivalry between Fermilab and CERN -- the European physics center that runs the new collider -- American scientists say their future depends on the success of their counterparts across the ocean.

They believe hundreds of physicists will flock to Fermilab's unique operations center, where they can monitor the European collider's performance and collect masses of data from it in real time. They've even copied the banks of computer monitors at CERN's operations room in Switzerland.

"When you're here, it's going to feel exactly the same as it would if you were at CERN," said Dan Green, a Fermilab physicist who led American construction of a major component at the European collider.

Particle Pajama Party
Fermilab staffers are so enthused about the new collider that they're holding a pajama party in the remote operations center starting at 1:30 a.m. Wednesday to celebrate its inaugural test.

The first use of the collider will be to check that its particle beams are working correctly, but scientists hope to ramp up the energy and precision of the beam in the months to come.

The remote operations center took about two years to build. Scientists there already have been helping prepare for the startup of the collider by monitoring its detectors for signs of cosmic ray particles that come from the depths of space.

Americans are contributing more than expertise to the new collider; the U.S. has invested about US$531 million for construction of the European device. Much of that money went into assembly of key magnets that focus the beam of particles.

Fermilab scientists also built components in one of the massive detectors that will study the subatomic shards that result from particle collisions.

[ClydeR]

Here it comes...
http://www.technewsworld.com/story/US-Scientists-Prep-for-Large-Hadron-Colliders-Debut-64412.html

Well that's disappointing. Until I read your article, I thought they had already turned it on and we had survived. Now I'll have to worry about this all week.

[Audriana]

Ya... me too...

Just gotta cross your fingers and hope Hawking knows his shit.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

Worry?! I'll be praying all week that a black hole does become created and sucks away our entire solar system.

What a freaking sweet way to die. The sky would be gorgeous as our atmosphere and cosmos was being ripped downwards and our atoms would all painlessly expand in perfect, exponential ratios before we died.

But yeah definitely get a few pre-marital blow-jobs before then. Don't wanna have the coolest death ever and go out without getting your nob slobbed, Clyde.

[Izzy]

Word.

x2

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

Oh and bonus points if black hole destruction of our earth results in our galaxy being sucked up and then turning into a giant death ray of doom. Just be glad the homos will be dead with the rest of us so they can't use it to hurt Jesus figurines and stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AP1_ZqB6g4

[Audriana]

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g5nGPtmoUVIJDgehVJ_snD6vDA6gD933R3IO0

Everything went off without a hitch.

Although... BUMBUMBUM...


Nothing of the sort occurred Wednesday, though accelerator is still probably a year away from full power.

[ClydeR]

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g5nGPtmoUVIJDgehVJ_snD6vDA6gD933R3IO0

Everything went off without a hitch.

Although... BUMBUMBUM...

So far so good. But just because they didn't get 80 heads in a row (http://forum.gsplayers.com/showpost.php?p=778769&postcount=25) the first time doesn't mean it won't eventually happen. At least France will be the first country to get sucked in.

[Audriana]

Naw, it'd fall to the center of the earth pulled by gravity, suck in all the hot nougaty goodness and let the crust fall in on itself.

Wouldn't be fun...

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

Naw, it'd fall to the center of the earth pulled by gravity, suck in all the hot nougaty goodness and let the crust fall in on itself.

Wouldn't be fun...

So true except the wouldn't be fun bit.

I'm disappointed.

[radamanthys]

That's true. Of all the ways to die, saying "I got sucked into a black hole" would be one of the coolest. If you survive dying, of course.

[ClydeR]

Well I'm not an expert on the Large Hardon Collider by any means. But what I've read says that they haven't collided particles yet. They've just sent them in one direction at a low intensity to test the machine. Next they'll send them in the opposite direction. Then they'll speed it up before eventually colliding them.

[Audriana]

That's what the article said, yes. Hence the BUMBUMBUM.

[Hulkein]

You have a better chance of getting into an automobile accident today at 3pm and killing yourself, a pregnant mother and a priest. Does that mean you should never, ever get in your car again?


Bad analogy.

I hope they hum this LHC at full speed and a black hole does rip open and sucks in that side of the world. We'd only have to deal with Canada and the South American countries.


http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g5nGPtmoUVIJDgehVJ_snD6vDA6gD933R3IO0

Everything went off without a hitch.

Although... BUMBUMBUM...

They're still testing the movement clockwise and counter-clockwise. No collisions yet.

We're not out of the woods yet, ClydeR!!!!!!!!!111

[Renian]

HEY CLYDER

If we die from a black hole from the LHC, God doesn't exist, because the prophecies of Revelations would not be able to occur.

So shut up or be an atheist. As a Christian, I choose shut up in addition to lrning2science.

[Audriana]

I found a live webcam to the collider. Sort of nifty.

http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

LOL

[ClydeR]

I found a live webcam to the collider. Sort of nifty.

http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html

If the collider makes a black hole and the webcam happens to be pointed at the black hole, will you be able to see it? I heard you can't actually see a black hole.

[Audriana]

http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/09/hackers-infiltr.html

WTF? Why would any computer in the BUILDING as the LHC connected to the internet???

[Krinthalis]

Well, for starters, they hacked the CMS computers, not the accelerator computers (CMS is a detector that sits at one of the collision points). I'm on ATLAS (a different detector at a different collision point), so I don't know exactly what was hit, but based on how we do things, I'd imagine that what happened is that they hacked into the control room. From there, you could do such exciting things as turn computers on and off - a pain in the ass for us, sure, but nothing more. In other words, the detectors have absolutely zero control over how the accelerator works. I can log into the control room computers, but if I want something changed on the accelerator, I have to call the accelerator people on the phone, just like everyone else.

If you're asking why any of those computers are connected to the internet, then you're just misunderstanding the scale of this thing. The LHC is not a building, it is a massive engineering structure that covers multiple sites at CERN, each of which have hundreds of buildings on them. To say that none of them should have internet access is pretty crazy. If you're asking why the detectors need to be connected to the internet, you need to understand that they're writing out data 24 hours a day, seven days a week. You can't just run down there every few days and burn a dvd or anything. In fact, this is exactly why the world wide web was invented in the first place.

[Audriana]

http://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-10047185-76.html


Helium leak forces two-month shutdown at LHC
Posted by Michelle Meyers
The world's largest particle collider has been shut down for at least two months due to a large helium leak stemming from an incident Friday, officials said.

The Large Hadron Collider is a gigantic particle accelerator located in a nearly 17-mile-long circular tunnel along the French-Swiss border about 330 feet underground. It was built by the European Organization for Nuclear Research, also known as CERN.

The collider was officially launched on September 10 when the first particle beam was successfully sent around the full circuit. On the heels of an earlier malfunction due to a faulty transformer, CERN said Friday's incident was most likely caused "by a faulty electrical connection between two magnets, which probably melted at high current leading to mechanical failure." At no time was there any risk to people, CERN added.

Although a full investigation is still underway, CERN announced Saturday that the section of the tunnel will have to be "warmed up" for repairs, which means the LHC will be down for at least two months.

The LHC experiments involve accelerating two beams of subatomic particles--called hadrons--in opposite directions to more than 99.9 percent the speed of light. Smashing the beams together will create showers of new particles for physicists to study using special detectors.

The result is expected to push forward theories of particle physics and the fundamental building blocks of all things. The LHC was designed primarily as an attempt to product the "Higgs boson," a hypothetical particle whose observation would help confirm some of the predictions in the Standard Model of physics. Other currently theoretical particles may also be observed for the first time, including microscopic black holes.

Some have theorized that the black hole experiments could go wrong with catastrophic results, but CERN has done extensive safety analysis and has repeatedly denied any such threat.We get a 2 month repreive

[ClydeR]

http://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-10047185-76.html

We get a 2 month repreive

At least we'll live long enough to see who wins the election. I plan to blame the black hole on whichever of them wins.

[Audriana]

The plus side of a black hole is you won't have long to be pissed off about it.

[Back]

Call the White House. Call your member of Congress. Demand that they address this threat to our very existence before it is too late.

Doom sayers have been around since the beginning of recorded history. Yet they have all been wrong. I don’t mean to be harsh, just presenting the facts.

Some of us, including myself, have a little more faith in life succeeding rather than failing.

[Gelston]

You do know the world ends in 2012 right?

[Back]

You do know the world ends in 2012 right?

Walking under a ladder makes you unlucky as well. Dreaming that your teeth are falling out means someone you know will die. And vampires don’t reflect in the mirror.

[Audriana]

I thought it was August 27th, 1997...

[Gelston]

No, its 2012.

12/12/2012 to be exact. End of Mayan Calander. We all die.

[Back]

Stepping on a crack may break your mother’s back.

People who feed you superstition to keep you scared are doing so to keep you in line so they can keep their power. Pretty sure thats how organized religion still makes money to this day.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

No, its 2012.

12/12/2012 to be exact. End of Mayan Calander. We all die.

I LOL heartily at people who actually believe that.

[Audriana]

Those Mayan's, they got the universe right... Nobody can pridict the end of the planet quite like a Mayan.


No, its 2012.

12/12/2012 to be exact. End of Mayan Calander. We all die.
And if you're going to spout nonscence, learn a bit more about it and state it correctly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayan_calendar_end#2012_and_the_Long_Count
It's 12/21/2012, not 12/12.


Inscriptions beyond 2012
Maya stelae occasionally show dates beyond 2012. Most of these are in the form of "distance dates", where a Long Count date is given with a distance date to be added. For example, on the Tablet of Inscriptions from Palenque the following Long Count date was found: 9.8.9.13.0 8 Ahau 13 Pop (24 March 603 Gregorian) with a distance date of 10.11.10.5.8. The resulting date is given as 1.0.0.0.0.8 5 Lamat 1 Mol,[10] or 21 October 4772 – almost 3,000 years into the future. The king Pacal of Palenque predicted that on this date the eightieth Calendar Round anniversary of his accession will be celebrated, suggesting he did not believe the world would end in 2012.

Despite the publicity generated by the 2012 date, Susan Milbrath, curator of Latin American Art and Archaeology at the Florida Museum of Natural History, stated that "We [the archaeological community] have no record or knowledge that [the Maya] would think the world would come to an end" in 2012.[12]

"For the ancient Maya, it was a huge celebration to make it to the end of a whole cycle," says Sandra Noble, executive director of the Foundation for the Advancement of Mesoamerican Studies, Inc. in Crystal River, Florida. To render December 21, 2012, as a doomsday or moment of cosmic shifting, she says, is "a complete fabrication and a chance for a lot of people to cash in."[13]

"There will be another cycle," says E. Wyllys Andrews V, director of the Tulane University Middle American Research Institute (MARI). "We know the Maya thought there was one before this, and that implies they were comfortable with the idea of another one after this."

I know you were joking around, but at least I know about the date I posted...

[Back]

I know you were joking around, but at least I know about the date I posted...

Agreed. I think Gelt was just being facetious in the face.

Nothing wrong with reinforcing that though. It should be.

[Gelston]

Actually, thats 12/21 is just the most accepted date. 12/12 is one of them though, and I like 12/12 better. You lose!

http://www.threeworldwars.com/2012/12-12-2012.htm

http://robkelk.ottawa-anime.org/fenspace/12-12-2012.html

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071017115033AAG8S8n

http://www.pspmod.com/forums/debate/30798-dec-12-20012-12-12-2012-doomday.html

[ClydeR]

Temporary collider shutdown a “blow”

Sept. 24, 2008
Courtesy CERN
and World Science staff

A giant particle collider whose launch this month scientists hailed as historic must shut down until spring, a “psychological blow” to project participants, said the head of the research center operating the machine.

http://www.world-science.net/othernews/080924_lhc.htm

[ClydeR]

I have some bad news from the world of science. Two scientific developments, when put together by me, should cause you alarm about what the French are doing.

First, new calculations show that the large hardon collider in France is capable of producing black holes.


One of the keys to the principles behind these field calculations is string theory. String theory suggests that there are several dimensions beyond the three spatial dimensions (plus time) that we see in classical physics. “If extra dimensions do exist, they could be as large as 10s to 100s of a micrometer. And if those extra dimensions are big enough, then there is a chance that the particle collisions at the LHC might be able to form black holes,” Choptuik says.

Of course, these black holes would be quite tiny, and difficult to detect. On top of that, they would evaporate almost instantly, making it even more difficult to detect whether they had even existed.

More... (http://www.physorg.com/news189694649.html)

Second, a new theory says that black holes are really gateways to another universe. Black holes suck in matter from one universe and spit it out from a white hole in another universe. Our universe, the theory goes, may be inside a black hole that is inside a black hole in another universe that is inside a black hole in a third universe that is inside a black hole in a fourth universe and so on.


A white hole is connected to a black hole by an Einstein-Rosen bridge (wormhole) and is hypothetically the time reversal of a black hole. Poplawski's paper suggests that all astrophysical black holes, not just Schwarzschild and Einstein-Rosen black holes, may have Einstein-Rosen bridges, each with a new universe inside that formed simultaneously with the black hole.

"From that it follows that our universe could have itself formed from inside a black hole existing inside another universe," he said.

By continuing to study the gravitational collapse of a sphere of dust in isotropic coordinates, and by applying the current research to other types of black holes, views where the universe is born from the interior of an Einstein-Rosen black hole could avoid problems seen by scientists with the Big Bang theory and the black hole information loss problem which claims all information about matter is lost as it goes over the event horizon (in turn defying the laws of quantum physics).

This model in isotropic coordinates of the universe as a black hole could explain the origin of cosmic inflation, Poplawski theorizes.

More... (http://newsinfo.iu.edu/news/page/normal/13995.html)

Now to put it all together. Those black holes they're making in France might open a gateway to another universe, perhaps even a gateway to hell, as long envisioned in science fiction (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkJJeDlDEbs). I've been saying from the beginning that Obama should use the full might of the United States to stop France's dangerous experiments.

That a black hole might be the gatway to hell is more believable than that our universe is the extra string dimension in the evaporating black hole of some other universe's Frenchman's hardon collider.

[Cephalopod]

I see.
http://www.theblacklaser.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/eventhor1.jpg

[Asha]

Wow. That link is pretty much identical to a ketamine experience!!

[Gan]

Yes, this is on topic. Points if you get the reference.

http://www.filmjunk.com/images/weblog/2009/12/blackholeremake.jpg

[Celephais]

Yes, this is on topic. Points if you get the reference.

http://www.filmjunk.com/images/weblog/2009/12/blackholeremake.jpg
Someone didn't click Clyde's link.

[radamanthys]

Yes, this is on topic. Points if you get the reference.

http://www.filmjunk.com/images/weblog/2009/12/blackholeremake.jpg


Vincent!

[Gan]

Winner!

[Cephalopod]

http://imgur.com/qylhx.jpg

[ClydeR]

Scientists at Cern will announce that the elusive Higgs boson 'God Particle' has been found at a press conference next week, it is believed.

Five leading theoretical physicists have been invited to the event on Wednesday - sparking speculation that the particle has been discovered.

Scientists at the Large Hadron Collider are expected to say they are 99.99 per cent certain it has been found - which is known as 'four sigma' level.

More... (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2167188/God-particle-Scientists-Cern-expected-announce-Higgs-boson-particle-discovered-Wednesday.html)

They will have to show me a picture of one before I believe it.

[Back]

They will have to show me a picture of one before I believe it.

Just like you would need to see the black hole they would create with this thing?

[Reliel]

I have a device that kills millions.

In my pants.

[Drew]

I have a device that kills millions.

In my pants.

Those poor lice.

[Reliel]

Those poor lice.

My words taste like shame.

[ClydeR]

If I didn't have to spend my free worrying about what the Democrats might do next, I think I could use this discovery to invent an anti-gravity ray.

[ClydeR]

If successful a completely new universe will be revealed – rewriting not only the physics books but the philosophy books too.

It is even possible that gravity from our own universe may ‘leak’ into this parallel universe, scientists at the LHC say.

The experiment is sure to inflame alarmist critics of the LHC, many of whom initially warned the high energy particle collider would spell the end of our universe with the creation a black hole of its own.

But so far Geneva remains intact and comfortably outside the event horizon.

More... (http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/565315/Scientists-at-Large-Hadron-Collider-hope-to-make-contact-with-PARALLEL-UNIVERSE-in-days)

Who agrees with me that it's a bad idea to open a door to a parallel universe?





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yfXgu37iyI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yfXgu37iyI

[Androidpk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiXdIwrYw1s

[JackWhisper]

Ripoff. I'm tired of waiting for the world to explode/implode/plode from a gigantic black hole.

It would be a damn cool way to end the world. No stupid ISIS bombing the world, no Nazi reemergence, just a giant SCHLOOOOOOOPPPPPPPP....*POP!* and we're all gone.

And might end up with aliens.

Epic.

[Taernath]

Doom 4: Development Hell on Earth

[Androidpk]

Doom 4: Development Hell on Earth

Expect a big reveal at E3 this year.

[JackWhisper]

Expect a big reveal at E3 this year.

Why does everyone say this, every fucking year?

Literally!

If I go back to last year, I am 85% sure you posted that for last year's E3, or something darn close.

:dance::whistle:

[Gelston]

Why does everyone say this, every fucking year?

Literally!

If I go back to last year, I am 85% sure you posted that for last year's E3, or something darn close.

:dance::whistle:

I know right?

[Androidpk]

Why does everyone say this, every fucking year?

Literally!

If I go back to last year, I am 85% sure you posted that for last year's E3, or something darn close.

:dance::whistle:

No. No one says this, because typically Bethesda does not go to E3. However this year they are holding a big conference, their first ever at this event.

[Taernath]

No. No one says this, because typically Bethesda does not go to E3. However this year they are holding a big conference, their first ever at this event.

Who cares about Doom 4 when it could be about a new Fallout?

[Androidpk]

Who cares about Doom 4 when it could be about a new Fallout?

I think it will be both, actually.

[Astray]

I think it will be both, actually.

The World would be ripped asunder.

[JackWhisper]

No. No one says this, because typically Bethesda does not go to E3. However this year they are holding a big conference, their first ever at this event.

I was referring to the fact you posted "Expect a big reveal at E3 this year!"

Not because of any specific company/title/release.

[Androidpk]

I was referring to the fact you posted "Expect a big reveal at E3 this year!"

Not because of any specific company/title/release.

It's the biggest videogame trade show of the year. Big reveals are its bread and butter.

[JackWhisper]

It's the biggest videogame trade show of the year. Big reveals are its bread and butter.

If that is so, great. Now tell me why the heck people post that every year, like it's a revelation! :online:

[Androidpk]

If that is so, great. Now tell me why the heck people post that every year, like it's a revelation! :online:

Well if you're into that sort of thing it is an exciting time of the year.

[Ashlander]

It's the biggest videogame trade show of the year. Big reveals are its bread and butter.
I thought PAX had surpassed E3?

[Androidpk]

I thought PAX had surpassed E3?

PAX is a gaming convention, E3 is an industry trade fair.

[JackWhisper]

Where does Tony Stark fit into all this?

[Androidpk]

Where does Tony Stark fit into all this?

Comic-con!

[JackWhisper]

Comic-con!

What?! RDJ would never stand for such a step down!

[Androidpk]

What?! RDJ would never stand for such a step down!

No way man, it's a step up, at least attendance wise. E3 you're looking around 40-50,000. PAX about 70,000. Comic-con is double that at 140,000+