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Parkbandit
07-25-2008, 04:03 PM
What Bush and Batman Have in Common
By ANDREW KLAVAN
July 25, 2008; Page A15

A cry for help goes out from a city beleaguered by violence and fear: A beam of light flashed into the night sky, the dark symbol of a bat projected onto the surface of the racing clouds . . .

Oh, wait a minute. That's not a bat, actually. In fact, when you trace the outline with your finger, it looks kind of like . . . a "W."

There seems to me no question that the Batman film "The Dark Knight," currently breaking every box office record in history, is at some level a paean of praise to the fortitude and moral courage that has been shown by George W. Bush in this time of terror and war. Like W, Batman is vilified and despised for confronting terrorists in the only terms they understand. Like W, Batman sometimes has to push the boundaries of civil rights to deal with an emergency, certain that he will re-establish those boundaries when the emergency is past.

And like W, Batman understands that there is no moral equivalence between a free society -- in which people sometimes make the wrong choices -- and a criminal sect bent on destruction. The former must be cherished even in its moments of folly; the latter must be hounded to the gates of Hell.

"The Dark Knight," then, is a conservative movie about the war on terror. And like another such film, last year's "300," "The Dark Knight" is making a fortune depicting the values and necessities that the Bush administration cannot seem to articulate for beans.

Conversely, time after time, left-wing films about the war on terror -- films like "In The Valley of Elah," "Rendition" and "Redacted" -- which preach moral equivalence and advocate surrender, that disrespect the military and their mission, that seem unable to distinguish the difference between America and Islamo-fascism, have bombed more spectacularly than Operation Shock and Awe.

Why is it then that left-wingers feel free to make their films direct and realistic, whereas Hollywood conservatives have to put on a mask in order to speak what they know to be the truth? Why is it, indeed, that the conservative values that power our defense -- values like morality, faith, self-sacrifice and the nobility of fighting for the right -- only appear in fantasy or comic-inspired films like "300," "Lord of the Rings," "Narnia," "Spiderman 3" and now "The Dark Knight"?

The moment filmmakers take on the problem of Islamic terrorism in realistic films, suddenly those values vanish. The good guys become indistinguishable from the bad guys, and we end up denigrating the very heroes who defend us. Why should this be?

The answers to these questions seem to me to be embedded in the story of "The Dark Knight" itself: Doing what's right is hard, and speaking the truth is dangerous. Many have been abhorred for it, some killed, one crucified.

Leftists frequently complain that right-wing morality is simplistic. Morality is relative, they say; nuanced, complex. They're wrong, of course, even on their own terms.

Left and right, all Americans know that freedom is better than slavery, that love is better than hate, kindness better than cruelty, tolerance better than bigotry. We don't always know how we know these things, and yet mysteriously we know them nonetheless.

The true complexity arises when we must defend these values in a world that does not universally embrace them -- when we reach the place where we must be intolerant in order to defend tolerance, or unkind in order to defend kindness, or hateful in order to defend what we love.

When heroes arise who take those difficult duties on themselves, it is tempting for the rest of us to turn our backs on them, to vilify them in order to protect our own appearance of righteousness. We prosecute and execrate the violent soldier or the cruel interrogator in order to parade ourselves as paragons of the peaceful values they preserve. As Gary Oldman's Commissioner Gordon says of the hated and hunted Batman, "He has to run away -- because we have to chase him."

That's real moral complexity. And when our artistic community is ready to show that sometimes men must kill in order to preserve life; that sometimes they must violate their values in order to maintain those values; and that while movie stars may strut in the bright light of our adulation for pretending to be heroes, true heroes often must slink in the shadows, slump-shouldered and despised -- then and only then will we be able to pay President Bush his due and make good and true films about the war on terror.

Perhaps that's when Hollywood conservatives will be able to take off their masks and speak plainly in the light of day.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121694247343482821.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

Some Rogue
07-25-2008, 04:11 PM
:flamewar:

radamanthys
07-25-2008, 04:40 PM
Well written article. There is no doubt that conservative thought is often seen as "evil" by the left, rather than the alternative that conservatives mostly think the left as "stupid".

Clove
07-25-2008, 04:45 PM
Well written article. There is no doubt that conservative thought is often seen as "evil" by the left...Only non-literally.

CrystalTears
07-25-2008, 04:45 PM
Well written article. There is no doubt that conservative thought is often seen as "evil" by the left...
OMFG IT WAS HYPERBOLE!!

CrystalTears
07-25-2008, 04:46 PM
Only non-literally.
Son of a ...

Stalker!

Kranar
07-25-2008, 04:49 PM
I can picture President Bush pulling off SNL's Celebrity Jeopardy skit of Michael Keaton:

"I'm Batman!"

radamanthys
07-25-2008, 05:10 PM
haha. "No, no you're not."

BriarFox
07-25-2008, 05:23 PM
Drawing an analogy between the president of the United States and a vigilante crime fighter only leads to one place - laughter.

The entire point of a (good) vigilante is that he moves outside society in order to attempt correct it, but sacrifices his morals in the process. It's only possible because he is a SINGLE individual and because he has the choice to move against conventional morality and law.

The president, on the other hand, is the figurehead of the most democratic nation on Earth and bound by both duty and oath to uphold the will of the people. For a president to act as a vigilante does nothing but undermine that duty and betray that oath.

However, if you like reading far-fetched allegorical readings of films, I can always convince you that the pity felt for Bambi's dead mother actually represented the mourning of Soviet Russia for the death of Vladimir Lenin.

Latrinsorm
07-25-2008, 10:16 PM
And when our artistic community is ready to show that sometimes men must kill in order to preserve life;...except Batman...
that sometimes they must violate their values in order to maintain those values...except Batman...

Sheesh, watch the movie at least.

Back
07-26-2008, 02:12 AM
What are the differences between GWB and BW?

BW is a rich bachelor. GWB gets paid taxpayer dollars and is married to LB.

BW drives the cars he buys. GWB gets a ride from the (taxpayer funded) military.

BW knows exactly what he is doing. GWB... not so much.


But you can’t really compare apple to oranges, or fictional characters to real people.

longshot
07-26-2008, 04:10 AM
But you can’t really compare apple to oranges, or fictional characters to real people.

Just when I think you can't possibly get any dumber...

Parkbandit
07-26-2008, 08:05 AM
Just when I think you can't possibly get any dumber...


Damn, beat me to it.

Christ, Backlash, you are a walking wonder.

Nieninque
07-26-2008, 08:43 AM
Damn, beat me to it.

Christ, Backlash, you are a walking wonder.

/agreed

He should have just said:


What is the difference between GWB and BW?

BW is a part-time superhero. GWB is a full-time twat.

And everyone else would have said, "yeah..."

But no...

TheEschaton
07-28-2008, 08:47 AM
Batman doesn't kill, he doesn't violate morality, he is, as the Joker says, truly incorruptible. He is willing to shoulder blame that isn't his, admit his limits, and be willing to be a martyr for justice.

That sounds like exactly the opposite of what GWB is.

The only way you could say this is a "conservative" movie is if you could claim moral certainty lies only on the right side of the political spectrum. Now, I admit, the left often glorifies moral equivalence - but there is a small but growing section of the left which doesn't, and I include myself in that. Many people (on the left) are beginning to realize there is indeed right and wrong, and that, as MLK said, "non-cooperation with evil is a sacred duty." The characteristics of Batman are neither left nor right, but remind me of the prayer of St. Ignatius, founder of the Jesuits, one of the most "liberal" Catholic orders (I'd argue that being "liberal" to Catholics, and "Catholic" to non-Catholics means you've found the right balance). It is a prayer centered in selflessness and anonymity:


Lord, teach me to be generous.
Teach me to serve you as you deserve;
to give and not to count the cost,
to fight and not to heed the wounds,
to toil and not to seek for rest,
to labor and not to ask for reward,
save that of knowing that I do your will.

If anything, Batman is supposed to represent a Christ-like figure (duh), who is willingly (will be?) crucified for sins not his own.

-TheE-

Daniel
07-28-2008, 10:04 AM
hahahahaha

Skeeter
07-28-2008, 10:25 AM
http://wiki.urbandead.com/images/thumb/6/67/Batman-Bomb.gif/140px-Batman-Bomb.gif