Running mates

[radamanthys]

What's your thought?

With Obama, the best choice would be a veteran politician. Someone with military experience. Someone who has more foreign policy experience. Someone closer to the center, to mitigate his appearance of being far left. Basically the best choice he's got is John McCain, heh. Colin Powell would be another good choice, if not for the double blackness. I hear Webb has a pretty good chance in the running as well.

McCain needs someone more conservative or with a good economic background. Someone further to the right and also more religious, to bring back the christian vote. I don't have any real solid ideas, at this point. Mark Sanford might be right for the job, though. Bloomberg would be the ideal, though, in my eyes (not that that's happening). He could also try for the crossover to appeal to independents, or to try and secure geography with a regional governor or so.

What are your thoughts? Who'd be best on either side? Who's likely?

[Parkbandit]

"McCain needs someone more conservative" and you come to the conclusion that "Bloomberg would be ideal"

:rofl:

[Back]

They both need moderate VPs in my opinion. Across-the-isle VPs for either would be a tanamount strategy in this election. Obama/Hagel or McCain/...? Hmm, I can’t think of a dem who McCain could tap as we all know Lieberman is neither.

[Parkbandit]

Yes, that's exactly what McCain's ticket needs.. is a Democrat.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e6/belike53/wtf-cat.jpg

[kookiegod]

I think Obama goes with Kathleen Sebelius, if he wants to still do the 'dream ticket', or Gov. Bill Richardson, who brings not only a wealth of long term experience, but he's Hispanic.

McCain, well, I am not sure, given his self-described lack of economic know-how, former candidite Mitt Romney would be in the running, same with Mike Huckabee (who will probably get OMB if McCain wins and he's not the veep). Fred Thompson has returned to acting, and Rudy will likely be the next Attorney General (again, if they win).

Other politicos would be Charlie Crist of Florida, Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota and South Carolina’s Sanford.

He might look out of the box too.

Rob Portman (a former director of OMB), or Sen. Kay Bailey Huntchinson of Texas.

He really does have a lot of choices, but I'd bet right now on Romney, not my first choice for sure.

~Paul

[Warriorbird]

Romney. Webb.

[Back]

Yes, that's exactly what McCain's ticket needs.. is a Democrat.

McCain/Buddy Jesus would be unbeatable. (Sorry, I watched Dogma again last night. Fucking brilliant movie.)

[Kembal]

Obama: Sebelius (though she's a terrible speaker...her SOTU response put me to sleep), Webb, Richardson, Ted Strickland (gov. of Ohio), Biden, Dodd, Clinton, Edwards, Ed Rendell (gov. of PA) and McCaskill (Senator from Missouri) are all in the running.

I'm thinking Strickland right now. (Reformer, former minister, Clinton ally...he'd shore up pretty much everything. And it'd likely deliver Ohio.) That could change over the next few weeks.

McCain: Romney, Crist, Pawlenty, Sanford, Huckabee, Lieberman, John Thune (senator from South Dakota)

I go with either Pawlenty or Thune. I'd laugh if it was Romney.

[Ilvane]

Colin Powell, damn. Isn't he a Republican? He would be a good option for McCain, but I doubt he will considering how the idiots went after his wife and her depression issues back when he was considering running for President.

I have no opinion on Obama's pick. We'll just have to see. It would be nice if he picked Hillary, but I don't think he will.

Angela*

[Back]

I have no opinion on Obama's pick. We'll just have to see. It would be nice if he picked Hillary, but I don't think he will.

Angela*

Wouldn’t it brilliant, strategically, if he did?

[Ilvane]

Sure, but I don't want to get my hopes up..LOL

[Keller]

Wouldn’t it brilliant, strategically, if he did?

No. Because this country isn't ready for a female president.

[Bobmuhthol]

Why the FUCK are you Angela asterisk?

[Parkbandit]

Why the FUCK are you Angela asterisk?

Because she:

*Reserves the right to change her opinion at any time.

[Gan]

Romney. Webb.

x2

[Sypher]

Webb is a good choice for Obama, good foreign policy experience and former republican. Plus, he's patently white, living in a picturesque southern home with both sons in the military. A highly decorated war hero will add some military legitmacy counterweight to McCain.

McCain should go with Romney or possibly Colin Powell, if he can get him.

[radamanthys]

"McCain needs someone more conservative" and you come to the conclusion that "Bloomberg would be ideal"

:rofl:


I meant someone more conservative or with a strong economic background. The comma wasn't right.

Bloomberg would bring a good business/economic sense to the ticket.

[Warriorbird]

Bloomberg would make sense for either. Scary.

[Tsa`ah]

I like the notion of Obama/Bradley ... but I don't see him bringing much to the table.

[Parkbandit]

Bloomberg would make sense for either. Scary.


Shows you what type of nominees we have, doesn't it.

[Warriorbird]

Yeah. Bloomberg should just be president already.

[Mabus]

I'm thinking Strickland right now. (Reformer, former minister, Clinton ally...he'd shore up pretty much everything. And it'd likely deliver Ohio.) That could change over the next few weeks.

Though Strickland is a fine man, I am not sure he could deliver Ohio. There have been a few major democratic scandals here in the past few months. Strickland also does not shore up the foreign policy, or military, ends.

I would think Webb, Richardson or Wesley Clark, at this point.

McCain should go with someone with a proven economic background, or that speaks to his opponent's weaknesses. Romney or Huckabee would be good choices, in my opinion.

[Gan]

McCain should go with someone with a proven economic background, or that speaks to his opponent's weaknesses. Romney or Huckabee would be good choices, in my opinion.



"Folks, I didn't major in math. I majored in miracles, and I still believe in those too."

HUCKABEE!

LOL

[Mabus]

HUCKABEE!

LOL
He is a fine man, did wonders with next to no money and was the executive of a state. He also draws some of the religous back to the fold.

Plus, he is great on the Daily Show.
;)

[Gan]

Though Strickland is a fine man, I am not sure he could deliver Ohio. There have been a few major democratic scandals here in the past few months. Strickland also does not shore up the foreign policy, or military, ends.

I would think Webb, Richardson or Wesley Clark, at this point.

McCain should go with someone with a proven economic background, or that speaks to his opponent's weaknesses. Romney or Huckabee would be good choices, in my opinion.


He is a fine man, did wonders with next to no money and was the executive of a state. He also draws some of the religous back to the fold.

Plus, he is great on the Daily Show.
;)

Whas has nothing to do with your first statement about finding someone with a proven economic background.

I get it though, you're referring to McCain's moderate stance with the religious right as a weakness. On the contrary, I find it a strength. ;)

[Mabus]

Whas has nothing to do with your first statement about finding someone with a proven economic background.

I also said "or that speaks to his opponent's weaknesses".

Huckabee could talk about the importance of religion in shaping character and judgement, the benefit of "small town" values, personal responsibility in health care and several other sore points to the opponent's campaign.

And he can do it with humor and a "feel good" sensibility.

[Gan]

Just make sure you dont get confused and think Huckabee knows shit about economics, like your previous post eluded to in a roundabout sort of way.

By far the only candidate who had a thorough background in economics was Romney.

[Mabus]

Just make sure you dont get confused and think Huckabee knows shit about economics, like your previous post eluded to in a roundabout sort of way.

Guy, I am not trying to start an argument here. I posted two reasons I felt candidates should be picked in the same sentence. You asked how I felt Huckabee had to do with economics, I pointed out the second part of the sentence.

There was nothing "roundabout" in the post. Huckabee can play to McCain's opponent's weaknesses, and with humor.

[Gan]

With the proper script, anyone can play to an opponents weaknesses.

Given the choice to vote between someone who's funny or someone who's smart. I'll take door number 2.

Huckabee scares the bejesus out of me. Lets leave him in Arkansas where he belongs.

[ClydeR]

If McCain cannot get Huckabee, then he might choose Haley Barbour (http://yallpolitics.com/index.php/yp/post/americanspectator_haley_barbour_odds_on_for_gop_ve ep/).

Recent polling has shown that Mississippi is leaning Republican, but is not nearly the Republican stronghold that one would expect. If McCain cannot hold on to Mississippi and the South, then he is in trouble. Barbour can deliver the entire South (Florida is no longer a Southern state) and eliminate any worries from that region.

Barbour's only problem is that he still looks fat, even though he's lost a lot of weight. People don't like fat folks anymore.

[oldanforgotten]

If McCain cannot get Huckabee, then he might choose Haley Barbour (http://yallpolitics.com/index.php/yp/post/americanspectator_haley_barbour_odds_on_for_gop_ve ep/).

Recent polling has shown that Mississippi is leaning Republican, but is not nearly the Republican stronghold that one would expect. If McCain cannot hold on to Mississippi and the South, then he is in trouble. Barbour can deliver the entire South (Florida is no longer a Southern state) and eliminate any worries from that region.

Barbour's only problem is that he still looks fat, even though he's lost a lot of weight. People don't like fat folks anymore.


Mississippi has a huge african american voting contingent. Huckabee would alienate a lot of people as a veep, because of his ties to religion. Contrary to your beliefs, since you primarily read only evangelical opinion pieces, is that the nation will not vote for a born again, or heavily religiously influenced leader again for a good while, at least until people forget Dubya.

[radamanthys]

Not that this is anywhere near a credible unbiased source, but it was an interesting read nonetheless:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/06/religious-right-figure-ge_n_105667.html

Don't forget... the religious 'right' has nothing to do with conservatism or liberalism. It's only whichever choice helps proliferate their agenda. The fact that the word Obama has been linked to the word Church (even if it's scandalous) may help him in the general. Just my two cents, though.

So that's why a religious figure would help McCain. I don't think it'd be a good choice for the country, though. This is, by design, a secular government after all.

[ClydeR]

There is a website for people who want Haley Barbour, the popular Governor of Mississippi, to be vice president. It's drafthaley.com (http://www.drafthaley.com). On the right column of that website is a scrolling list of 646 people who have signed a petition to have Barbour be VP. The fourth person to sign, I noticed, was Elvis Presley of Tupelo, Miss. :)

[oldanforgotten]

There is a website for people who want Haley Barbour, the popular Governor of Mississippi, to be vice president. It's drafthaley.com (http://www.drafthaley.com). On the right column of that website is a scrolling list of 646 people who have signed a petition to have Barbour be VP. The fourth person to sign, I noticed, was Elvis Presley of Tupelo, Miss. :)

646 whole people? Wow, the evangelicals are growing stronger it seems.

[Warriorbird]

Barbour's got a lot of problem areas. I'd be happy if McCain were that foolish.

[Mabus]

Strickland from Ohio is likely out as VP.

In the Cleveland Plain Dealer today (quoted from NPR):
"If drafted, I will not run, nominated, I will not accept and if elected, I will not serve. So, I don't know how more crystal clear I can be." -Ted Strickland (D), Governor of Ohio

[Parkbandit]

Hey Tamral.. are you even going to vote this year? If not, why bother repeating 2004.. unless you are just here to entertain everyone.

[Ravenstorm]

Oh, Tamral is still here? What name is the cat killer using now?

[BigWorm]

Tamral = oldandforgotten, right?

[CrystalTears]

That's the theory.

[BigWorm]

Nice avatar, bitch ;)

[Parkbandit]

Oh, Tamral is still here? What name is the cat killer using now?


Mississippi has a huge african american voting contingent. Huckabee would alienate a lot of people as a veep, because of his ties to religion. Contrary to your beliefs, since you primarily read only evangelical opinion pieces, is that the nation will not vote for a born again, or heavily religiously influenced leader again for a good while, at least until people forget Dubya.

Hide your cat.

[radamanthys]

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/06/17/hagel_veep/

Chuck Hagel for Obama? Interesting choice. As I said, he needs a McCain-like running mate. This might actually be a good idea for him. I'm not a democrat, though. Would it piss off his fellow democrats if he chose someone of that party? Enough to not vote for him? I'm asking the Dems in the audience.

(btw, hysterical commentary on the insanity of this election... Gan is, at this point, supporting Obama, iirc. Ilvane is on the McCain at this juncture... Not to insult either of you, though I know it's open season on Ilvane. Both candidates are equally awesome, and equally awful. I'm a [libertarian leaning] republican who is verring obamaside, but actually waiting for [especially] running mate selection and the debates, as I've not made up my mind 100%.)

[Paradii]

Webb is a good choice for Obama, good foreign policy experience and former republican. Plus, he's patently white, living in a picturesque southern home with both sons in the military. A highly decorated war hero will add some military legitmacy counterweight to McCain.

McCain should go with Romney or possibly Colin Powell, if he can get him.

Is this country ready for a VP with three tattoos!?! I am sure I read somewhere that was the final sign that the rapture was about to take place.

Webb does seem like he has a solid head on his shoulders, but I'd also like to see Biden on the ticket.

[Back]

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/06/17/hagel_veep/

Chuck Hagel for Obama? Interesting choice. As I said, he needs a McCain-like running mate. This might actually be a good idea for him. I'm not a democrat, though. Would it piss off his fellow democrats if he chose someone of that party? Enough to not vote for him? I'm asking the Dems in the audience.

I suggested this in my very first post in this thread.

They have the same veiw on the war in Iraq.

What would be a change in current American politics? Mending the rift. United States of America.

[radamanthys]

In this thread, I actually agree with Back(lash). Dogma is an excellent movie, Hagel is a good choice of VP for Obama.

McCain would be my (as far as electability, I'm too far libertarian republican to vote for either at this junction) choice for obama's running mate, which I said. Hagel is not too far off that (read: not the 'I want to be president' McCain, but the old [sic] McCain, not the flip-flopping [ahh!]/pandering to the voter base McCain who just wants to win, even if it compromises his values [re-read: hillaryistic]).

nested parenthesis for thoughtflow, not readability. sry.