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ClydeR
05-22-2008, 05:10 PM
Physics professor Freeman Dyson writes in The New York Review of Books (via The Corner (http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MTJkZTYwODY5YzJmZTgyMDg5MDg2MDc5NzI3NDZmMzE)) that radical environmentalists are elevating a good idea (preserving the environment) to the level of a "secular religion."


All the books that I have seen about the science and economics of global warming, including the two books under review, miss the main point. The main point is religious rather than scientific. There is a worldwide secular religion which we may call environmentalism, holding that we are stewards of the earth, that despoiling the planet with waste products of our luxurious living is a sin, and that the path of righteousness is to live as frugally as possible. The ethics of environmentalism are being taught to children in kindergartens, schools, and colleges all over the world.

Environmentalism has replaced socialism as the leading secular religion. And the ethics of environmentalism are fundamentally sound. Scientists and economists can agree with Buddhist monks and Christian activists that ruthless destruction of natural habitats is evil and careful preservation of birds and butterflies is good. The worldwide community of environmentalists – most of whom are not scientists – holds the moral high ground, and is guiding human societies toward a hopeful future. Environmentalism, as a religion of hope and respect for nature, is here to stay. This is a religion that we can all share, whether or not we believe that global warming is harmful.

Unfortunately, some members of the environmental movement have also adopted as an article of faith the belief that global warming is the greatest threat to the ecology of our planet. That is one reason why the arguments about global warming have become bitter and passionate. Much of the public has come to believe that anyone who is skeptical about the dangers of global warming is an enemy of the environment. The skeptics now have the difficult task of convincing the public that the opposite is true. Many of the skeptics are passionate environmentalists. They are horrified to see the obsession with global warming distracting public attention from what they see as more serious and more immediate dangers to the planet, including problems of nuclear weaponry, environmental degradation, and social injustice. Whether they turn out to be right or wrong, their arguments on these issues deserve to be heard.

Our next president should be someone who will not further dilute the Christian heritage of America with a false religion.

Kuyuk
05-22-2008, 05:16 PM
Where do you get this shit?

Edit: I dont disagree with environmentalism being a good thing...but where does Clyde get these whackjob thoughts?

K.

Mighty Nikkisaurus
05-22-2008, 05:19 PM
The point of that article isn't that environmentalists are making people not believe in God. It's that some of them and their hard-ons for linking everything back to global warming hurts the movement a lot more than it helps it at this point.

Back
05-22-2008, 05:28 PM
http://www.creationcare.org/

diethx
05-22-2008, 05:30 PM
but where does Clyde get these whackjob thoughts?

You do realize he only posts shit like that to get everyone foaming at the mouth, right? It always works too, hehe.

ClydeR
05-22-2008, 05:33 PM
Where do you get this shit?

I always provide a link. Based on some of the feedback I get here, I think the links may not show up on everyone's screen. They're blue and underlined on my screen. Is there something technical I should do in my post to make the links visible to everyone?

diethx
05-22-2008, 05:35 PM
We can see them. That however was a rhetorical question, since you're pretty much a nutbag.

Sean of the Thread
05-22-2008, 05:51 PM
lol I still want to know who ClydeR really is.

At any rate enjoy your religion but once you start spewing myopic taunts I could not care less about your somewhat amusing (in a hilarious sad way) posts.

Gan
05-22-2008, 05:53 PM
So there's only room for Christianity in America?

Gan
05-22-2008, 05:54 PM
ClydeR reminds me of (a wacko version) Heart in "Paperchase".

longshot
05-23-2008, 03:55 AM
At any rate enjoy your religion but once you start spewing myopic taunts I could not care less about your somewhat amusing (in a hilarious sad way) posts.

Well said.

He's such a fucking coward that he won't even talk about his own creationist views, or his rapture bullshit.

Better to just throw out links, right...?

radamanthys
05-23-2008, 03:58 AM
Hey, environmental conservation is pretty damned conservative to me. I think it's something that people should be quite aware of, and it seems the free market approach to the problem is gaining steam in lieu of a big government solution. Whee.