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TheEschaton
05-05-2008, 11:37 AM
This is being passed around the Indian communities this morning. While I disagree with Kristol's analysis of the Dem race so far, the name dropping of Jindal is interesting. He's young, and a policy wonk, especially in economics, which helps McCain shore up his weak points. However, he's also a reformer, IE McCain in 2000, and he's Indian, which could remind people of outsourcing, which across the political spectrum is usually frowned upon by the "common man."

-TheE-

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/05/opinion/05kristol.html

McCain-Jindal?

By WILLIAM KRISTOL

Barack Obama said Friday, “We’ve had a rough couple of weeks.” Actually, he’s had a rough couple of months. He’s lost three big primaries to Hillary Clinton. And, should he hold on to win the nomination, he can no longer be considered a clear favorite over John McCain in the general election.

In a New York Times/CBS News poll in late February, Obama was defeating John McCain 50 to 38. Two months later, the Times/CBS poll had McCain and Obama tied. The poll that came out yesterday showed Obama reopening a lead over McCain — but clearly over this period a vulnerability for Obama was exposed.

And when Obama’s 12-point lead over McCain was evaporating, Hillary Clinton was moving from a tie in February to a five-point advantage — and now that has widened further.

The main reason for Clinton’s strong performance was surely that she didn’t have as her pastor for 20 years the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

Obama has now repudiated Wright because of his remarks at the National Press Club last Monday. But Wright said nothing new there. AIDS could well have been invented by the U.S. government. Sept. 11 was at least in part “chickens coming home to roost.” Louis Farrakhan deserves our respect. These views of Wright were known to Obama when he made his “I can no more disown him” speech in Philadelphia on March 18. Yet, last week, at a press conference in North Carolina, Obama claimed to be “shocked” and “surprised” by what Wright had said, and disowned him.

What really seems to have shocked and surprised Obama is what Wright said about him: “What I think particularly angered me was his suggestion somehow that my previous denunciation of his remarks were somehow political posturing.” Later on in his press conference, Obama returned to this, saying that Wright’s cavalier dismissal of Obama as just another politician was “a show of disrespect to me.”

Some voters might think it would have been nice if Obama had been as angry in March at Wright’s disrespect to the United States of America as he was in April at Wright’s disrespect to Barack Obama.

Still, Obama is the likely Democratic nominee. Some conservatives are giddy at the thought — kidding themselves that the general election will therefore be easy, that Obama will be another Dukakis. I was struck, though, in several conversations this week with McCain campaign staffers and advisers that they’re pretty sober about the task ahead. About the Dukakis analogy, for example, one McCain aide said: If in 1988 Ronald Reagan had had a 30 percent job approval rating, and 80 percent of the voters had thought we were on the wrong track, Dukakis would have won.

And the McCain campaign knows the environment for Republicans remains toxic. They noticed that on Saturday night Republicans lost their second House seat in a special election in two months — this one in a district they had held since 1974 and that Bush had carried by almost 20 points in 2004.

Another McCain staffer called my attention to this finding in the latest Fox News poll: McCain led Obama in the straight match-up, 46 to 43. Voters were then asked to choose between two tickets, McCain-Romney vs. Obama-Clinton. Obama-Clinton won 47 to 41.

That reversal of a three-point McCain lead to a six-point deficit for the McCain ticket suggests what might happen (a) when the Democrats unite, and (b) if McCain were to choose a conventional running mate, who, as it were, reinforced the Republican brand for the ticket. As the McCain aide put it, this is what will happen if we run a traditional campaign; our numbers will gradually regress toward the (losing) generic Republican number.

Maybe that’s why, in separate conversations last week, no fewer than four McCain staffers and advisers mentioned as a possible vice-presidential pick the 36-year-old Louisiana governor, Bobby Jindal. They’re tempted by the idea of picking someone so young, with real accomplishments and a strong reformist streak.

It might also be a way to confront the issue of McCain’s age (71), which private polls and focus groups suggest could be a real problem. A Jindal pick would implicitly acknowledge the questions and raise the ante. The message would be: “You want generational change? You can get it with McCain-Jindal — without risking a liberal and inexperienced Obama as commander in chief.” I would add that it was after McCain spent considerable time with Jindal in New Orleans recently, and reportedly found him, as he has before, personally engaging and intellectually impressive, that the campaign’s informal name-dropping of Jindal began.

Of course, we shouldn’t assume that the Democratic nominee will be Obama. Maybe Clinton will win both Indiana and North Carolina on Tuesday. If she does, she’ll have a chance — an outside chance, but a chance — to win the nomination. And if that happens, the reason will have been that Obama allowed his own running mate in the primaries to become Reverend Jeremiah Wright.

Clove
05-05-2008, 11:56 AM
Tony Stark for VP.

Tea & Strumpets
05-05-2008, 12:06 PM
He shouldn't be up for the job because those Indians will sell national secrets for a jug of firewater or fancy beads.

-Subbing in for ClydeR

Keller
05-05-2008, 12:09 PM
He shouldn't be up for the job because those Indians will sell national secrets for a jug of firewater or fancy beads.

-Subbing in for ClydeR


I <3 Dar

Gan
05-05-2008, 12:24 PM
LOL

Arkans
05-05-2008, 12:28 PM
It's okay if an Indian gets into power.

We can simply remove them by just sending blankets as a good will gesture.

- Arkans

Clove
05-05-2008, 12:38 PM
It's okay if an Indian gets into power.

We can simply remove them by just sending blankets as a good will gesture.

- ArkansOr offer him a Clarion Inn franchise.

Gan
05-05-2008, 12:44 PM
Or an IHOP

Stop 'n Go / 7-11

Clove
05-05-2008, 12:56 PM
Or an IHOP

Stop 'n Go / 7-11ADA position?

Daniel
05-05-2008, 01:11 PM
Guys,

Stop being ignorant. It's not cool okay?

He's obviously an Indian with a dot, not an Indian with a feather.

Lucas
05-05-2008, 01:12 PM
Jindal might work to "colour" up the race to get some votes from minorities who are all afraid of non-sensitive Republicans and their right wing agendas (except those fucking orientals... but they don't have any souls).

Plus, it might play well against the novelty factor by Obama/Hillary.

Tea & Strumpets
05-05-2008, 01:16 PM
It hardly seems picking Jindal would sway any attention from McCain's age of 71. I don't think they would "balance the ticket" against the fear that an older McCain might be too old for the job or pass away...by adding a 36 year old vice president so that people can worry about his youth and comparative inexperience.

Lucas
05-05-2008, 01:24 PM
Why is age such a big factor? 71 means technically he's still got 9 more years until he's hit the average age of dying in America.

I like McCain, mainly because he's a social liberal and fiscal conservative. It's just his idiotic "100 years in Iraq" war policy that drives me insane.

Clove
05-05-2008, 01:30 PM
Why is age such a big factor? 71 means technically he's still got 9 more years until he's hit the average age of dying in America...Not really. The 2007 CIA world fact book puts the average life expectancy for males in the USA at 75.4. But even if it's 80... 71 is a bit long in the tooth. Srsly.

Gan
05-05-2008, 01:43 PM
Guys,

Stop being ignorant. It's not cool okay?

He's obviously an Indian with a dot, not an Indian with a feather.

I dont have any American Indians running the various IHOP's and Stop 'n Go/7-11's around here.

:whistle:

serra7965
05-05-2008, 01:51 PM
They need to leave Jindal alone, Louisiana needs him his whole term plus another....then he can run for whatever else he wants. He says he isn't interested....but I guess they all have to say that. The man is a genius and would probably be a waste as VP.

Gan
05-05-2008, 01:58 PM
I dont know about the genius part... but I agree that we should give him a chance to clean up Louisana. If he can do that - he deserves to run for President in 2012.

Arkans
05-05-2008, 02:02 PM
I dont know about the genius part... but I agree that we should give him a chance to clean up Louisana. If he can do that - he deserves to run for President in 2012.

I hate to be a Gloomy Gus about all this, but if Katrina tried this and failed, then I don't see much of a chance here.

- Arkans

Gan
05-05-2008, 02:10 PM
ouch

ClydeR
05-05-2008, 02:55 PM
Isn't Jindal a Hindu?

Clove
05-05-2008, 02:58 PM
Isn't Jindal a Hindu?Irrelevant to his qualifications to hold public office. Look up his bio if it interests you.

Arkans
05-05-2008, 03:00 PM
Question: What's a Hindu?
Answer: Lay eggs!

- Arkans

Tsa`ah
05-05-2008, 03:26 PM
Jindal might work to "colour" up the race to get some votes from minorities who are all afraid of non-sensitive Republicans and their right wing agendas (except those fucking orientals... but they don't have any souls).

Plus, it might play well against the novelty factor by Obama/Hillary.

Oy vey .... do everyone a favor and avoid any thread that deals with people, history, culture, or politics.

Warriorbird
05-05-2008, 03:49 PM
Jindal is ClydeR's kind of insane Christian. He'd eat it up.

Ashlander
05-05-2008, 04:31 PM
Didn't Jindal say he wasn't interested in being vice-president on one of the late night shows recently? I could be wrong.

Mabus
05-05-2008, 04:32 PM
Guys,

Stop being ignorant. It's not cool okay?

He's obviously an Indian with a dot, not an Indian with a feather.
Daniel is such a racist.

Gan
05-05-2008, 05:07 PM
Obama's pastor is racist!

Daniel
05-05-2008, 05:12 PM
Obama's pastor is racist!

When will people realize this?!

Gan
05-05-2008, 05:19 PM
You hear what I'm sayin?

Mabus
05-05-2008, 06:05 PM
When will people realize this?!
At least Obama threw him under the bus for political reasons, eh?

Daniel
05-05-2008, 06:15 PM
Because no one saw that coming?

Keller
05-05-2008, 06:37 PM
Thrall doesn't care about blood elves.

TheEschaton
05-05-2008, 06:43 PM
Jindal is an evangelical Catholic, who converted as an adult, probably disappointing his Hindu parents. ;)

-TheE-