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Shalla
12-31-2003, 04:05 PM
Originally posted by Fizzan
--Fizzan's Player, who wants to make it clear that he's not defending Sarah, only trying to understand why people aren't willing to give her a chance.
Obviously, alot of people has encountered teeoncy's antics.. and they all have similarities in their complaint. When someone has been commented on or complained at... by NUMEROUS people. I would think they would STOP and say... Hey.. Maybe I have been inconsiderate.. or I have mistreated them. Maybe I have gone over the edge of tolerance.. Maybe I should STOP or at LEAST MINIMIZE my attitude towards these people. But to find out over and over again that she has done it to MORE people after that? I think she has already lost the benefit of the doubt... Fizzan, how can you say that you couldn't believe that people wouldn't give her a chance.. Quoting what she herself admitted. "She likes to annoy people" And for the comment on her being ABLE to differentiate Sarah from teeoncy. I don't believe that for a minute, Otherwise they wouldn't be mentioning the player's name over and over.
Rastaman
12-31-2003, 04:26 PM
Long posts are hard for my mind to comprehend due to it's small size. Lies were told, confessions were made. Forgive and forget.
Fizzan
12-31-2003, 05:17 PM
Rasta-- you really are the man.
Shalla-- show me where I say anything about disbelieving people's willingness to forgive her or give her a second chance. I say countless times I couldn't hold that against anyone, not knowing first-hand the extent of the trouble Sarah has caused specific individuals.
I don't understand the specific reasoning, that's all. Simple enough, eh? I should think so. Just asking for some details, that I might better understand.
X-- you can't imagine a foot up your ass, either, but I'm sure at some point in time in your life, it's going to happen.
Let's see if I can help you-- Cat's mundane and Teeoncy's mundane are both very frank with me in our OOG discussions. If anyone knows enough about them to make the kind of assumptions that *you're* making, it's me, not you.
Were I not almost 100 percent sure that Sarah was done reading these boards (as I've suggested she become), then I'd ask her to verify. Cat's also done with this thread (posting, at least, but maybe she'll make an exception), less I would get Cat to verify as well.
Quit. While you're ahead.
I mean, it's the New Year people! Lots of life-changes being made, though there are certainly more resolutions broken than followed through with. But only time can tell, so why not give it some time, make your own resolution not to look so damn petty on these boards, and we'll all turn out for the better in this upcoming year.
Too much to ask? For some of you, clearly... but that vast majority of you seem to have a tremendously open mind, at least about watching for any changes in aforementioned liar's behaivor. To you, I give a salute.
--Fizzan's Player, who hopes you know what he's talking "aboot". ::snickers::
"Me no pretender, no studio thugsta-- Bo'll get witcha."
Betheny
12-31-2003, 05:28 PM
I don't even really know what this thread is all about, but can't we leave the Teeoncy issue in the grave where it belongs?
Xcalibur
12-31-2003, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by Fizzan
X-- you can't imagine a foot up your ass, either, but I'm sure at some point in time in your life, it's going to happen.
Let's see if I can help you-- Cat's mundane and Teeoncy's mundane are both very frank with me in our OOG discussions. If anyone knows enough about them to make the kind of assumptions that *you're* making, it's me, not you.
Were I not almost 100 percent sure that Sarah was done reading these boards (as I've suggested she become), then I'd ask her to verify. Cat's also done with this thread (posting, at least, but maybe she'll make an exception), less I would get Cat to verify as well.
Quit. While you're ahead.
To resumize all this. There was 3-4 threads made about her. Around 30 different people came and said their stories about her..
But you, NOW, you know how to handle this and you know what's good for her, for Cat, for me and for everyone "against" her
That's it?
The Cat In The Hat
12-31-2003, 06:45 PM
I wasn’t going to come back here and post because if there's a "winner" in this situation, it's Sarah. All her lies, her deceit, has gotten her the support of someone I care very much about and it’s greatly damaged our relationship beyond repair and I’m seriously to the point of just not wanting to deal with anything having to do with Gemstone anymore.
I made my case against her, as many other people have, and you’ve all seen her for what she is and there’s nothing I can contribute to this thread that I haven’t already said somewhere else.
I refuse to comment on Fizzan. He has a good head on his shoulders and I would like to trust that he knows what he’s doing, I just can’t trust his judgement in this as much as I trust it any other time. I do feel he’s been lied to yet again by her and I can’t imagine what it was that has swayed his judgement. If it were anyone else I would easily say Sex, or something of the like, but I can’t say that with Fizzan because I don’t think he’s that petty
Yes, Fizzan knows me pretty damned well. I’ve confided in him things that I wouldn’t ever think about telling anyone else. You could say I’ve always considered him one of my characters best friends, and I would have done almost anything for him.
X, It’s me asking this time, me that dislikes Sarah I think now, more than ever. Let it go. If I of all people can be a big enough person to ask this of you, then you should honor my request and just let it die. Will I forgive her? No. But I think this just needs to end.
A very unhappy Cat
Betheny
12-31-2003, 06:52 PM
Dear Cat,
<3
You are far better than Teeoncy, IMHO, and she isn't even worth 1/10th of a millisecond of your time.
On to bigger and better things. Seriously. It sucks that you're upset. I know what it's like. Sometimes it's just better to walk away though. Everyone here knows what that.... ah, girl.... is about, and I seriously doubt anyone here really gives a shit about what she has to say. We all know she's a liar and a petty little girl. All she wants is negative attention. She'll probably have kids by the time she's 20. So just chill and let nature do its worst. Natural selection, and all of that....
The Cat In The Hat
12-31-2003, 07:01 PM
Ya know Beth, you keep that up and that bitch title you worked so hard for.. right out the window. Thanks
Cat
Betheny
12-31-2003, 07:07 PM
I'll always be a bitch, but 90% of the time I"m a bitch because I'm outspoken and honest about what I think or feel.
/shrug
Xcalibur
12-31-2003, 07:09 PM
Hmm, Cat, very well.. I knew that Fizzan boy wasn't objective in all this, but very well..
I'll repeat it though, she is a dangerous person.
I'll honor your request.
I don't believe in karma, but..
Shalla
12-31-2003, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by Fizzan
Shalla-- show me where I say anything about disbelieving people's willingness to forgive her or give her a second chance. I say countless times I couldn't hold that against anyone, not knowing first-hand the extent of the trouble Sarah has caused specific individuals.
I don't understand the specific reasoning, that's all. Simple enough, eh? I should think so. Just asking for some details, that I might better understand.
If she acted this way to 1 person, then she is entitled to have that benefit of the doubt. Having done it once AT LEAST deserves understanding, patience and tolerance. But to have done it to so many people? Judging from people's reaction by the mention of Teeoncy and her player, SHE must have done something extreme for them to dislike her so.. I'm sure they have good reasons for that..
You, yourself fizzan experienced teeoncy/sarah's actions. You, evidently are more understanding, but some people do not tolerate this level of maturity... especially if that person is NOT the least bit regretful of her actions.. If she was? there would not be new threads or people surfacing to comment on her behaviour all the time.. There would be no arguement regarding her antics.. attitude.. or her mental state.
Fizzan obviously wants proof.. hard core evidence besides his encounter with teeoncy to prove to him sarah/teeoncy has issues.. I'm sure if you scrolled this forum long enough.. you will find your answer.. I could give you one.. but I have wasted enough time in this psycho-drama that I refuse to star in it.
And No, I'm not scared that she's going to stalk me and ambush me for expressing my opinion.... be my guest.. Kill me or make someone that you have corrupted hack me to bits..
She could go right ahead.. Prove us right. Or she could prove us wrong by reducing the amount of people hating her and not adding anymore.
Edit: Asking to elaborate how teeoncy affected everybody is just asking for this to escalate. I don't see the purpose of having everybody post why they hate teeoncy just for you to understand.
[Edited on 1-1-2004 by Lady Shalla]
Shalla
12-31-2003, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by Maimara
Everyone here knows what that.... ah, girl.... is about, and I seriously doubt anyone here really gives a shit about what she has to say. We all know she's a liar and a petty little girl. All she wants is negative attention. She'll probably have kids by the time she's 20. So just chill and let nature do its worst. Natural selection, and all of that....
Ouch, that is a low blow. I do pity her though.. and I certainly hope she doesn't get pregnant by the time she's 20... she has issues to deal with first. I hope she out-grows them.
Xcalibur
12-31-2003, 07:47 PM
I'll give a weird analogy, but it's like pedophiles... YOU DON'T want to leave them in peace.
NEVER
Still, I'll honor her request
here is the skinny of it with me, she came here and posted a pic that she said was like a year old or something, I called her on that since I had had the picture sent to me about 2 years agao, she was busted from day one, and i smelled it. I played a little game with her to find out exactly how old she was when the pic was taken, how old she is now, and called her on the lie. I asked one thing as proof. I wanted a picture of her holding a sign that said "THE EDINE" on it... I never got the sign hence my beef.
ok really I dont like Liars, I try my best to live on my own moral code, I as a person would rather decline to answer a question if I even think of telling a lie. The stories that came out about her angered me I know Cat and consider her a friend so what was done to her angers me even more. The lies told to hurt other people here really pissed me off, stray and weedie both did not deserve what happend in the slightest bit, and that is where I really draw the line... She could lie all day about herself and I would just get amusment about it, but when you lie to cover your own ass and in return hurt others you deserve to get whats comeing to you, and me being the mean person I am hopes it hurts her deep, and of course learns a lesson from it.
Shalla
12-31-2003, 07:54 PM
Yes, because it has been proven that pedophiles has the tendency of repeating the crime. Psychological help does not completely stop the urge or temptation.
Xcalibur
12-31-2003, 07:57 PM
You want your ex back
I want more legos
But let's bear something in mind, she won't have our sympathy until.. until.. until.. we'll found out until when
Shalla
12-31-2003, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by Xcalibur
You want your ex back
I know.. Even I think It's pathetic. stupid bastard :mad: I love him so much.
Xcalibur
12-31-2003, 08:13 PM
Slap him for me if you see him, he just left a VERY beautiful woman
That being said, i am honoring cat's request
Shalla
12-31-2003, 08:25 PM
I think someone's been deleting my posts :(
Fizzan
01-01-2004, 03:55 AM
Finally dawned on me why I'm the only one able to look past everything else-- I shut her ass up in-game and IRL, hence the beginning of this thread.
Every other sniper on this site has no better place to get their revenge. Heh. Don't you wish you were a sorcerer?
You're right now that I think about it, it's probably not good for everyone to list why they hate her. People are entirely to petty with that type of thing, and can't make a single, solitary post without "psycho", "bitch", or "have kids by the time you're 20". Would be physically impossible-- I concede that for sure.
X-- that picture you're talking about? I have it. With MY name, and "Fizzan" across it.
That gonna be enough to shut you the fuck up?
How many times will you say, "But I'll let it die", only to post again? Find another easy target, or wait until your elementary school opens up again (really should study up on the English) and go gripe on your classmates. If you're not afraid of them putting your teeth down your throat, that is.
2514 gripes and count. Define pitiful.
Maimara--- yes!!
Cat-- thanks and eat me at the same time. I don't know any other way to put it.
You trust the head on my shoulders only so far, and that clearly states that you have more feelings (of hate) for Sarah than feelings (of friendship) for me. The only way this could have damaged a relationship is if you let it do so.
Without even intending/trying, Sarah won what you perceived to be her main goal throughout all of this. You've admitted defeat to her publically, on these boards.
And now, when she would likely pull a "Chad" on me now that my use is through, I should be posting my first new gripe within a few days, right?
We'll see. We'll see.
Since you, too, dubbed me on of her typical boys, I must do as I said I would-- ha, ha, in the grill.
--Fizzan's Player
"It's hot as Hell, but it snows 'round here..."
Oh yeah... hope everyone's having a Happy New Year! ::cheers:: Pardon any typos or ridiculously worded sentences-- I'm krunk as a skunk.
HarmNone
01-01-2004, 04:00 AM
You know what? Whether it be those who are condemning or those who are defending, continuing this thread is not accomplishing anything for anybody.
Teeoncy's player has been hurt. Cat's player has been hurt. Any number of other people here have been angered or hurt. I have to sit back and wonder....
What is the purpose?
HarmNone would like to see it all just go the hell away :(
Drew2
01-01-2004, 04:04 AM
"All that we see or seem is but a dream within a dream." - Edgar Allen Poe
I just realized... Poe had the idea for the Matrix.
HarmNone
01-01-2004, 04:05 AM
Hee! Too cool, eh, Tayre? A man far ahead of his time was Poe. ;)
HarmNone
Ansherak
01-01-2004, 04:22 AM
Die thread, Die!
I can't believe this is still going on!
I made the thread, apologized for it, and its still going on!
Way to many soap operas, hunt and be merry, its 100k between trains now, not time to bitch!
D-
Xcalibur
01-01-2004, 08:48 AM
What picture I was speaking about?
Be careful.. No, I'll honor her request :)
The diffrence is I dont really care of Sarah gets hurt harmnone, most likely it is becuase I lack compassion for people like that.
The Cat In The Hat
01-01-2004, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by Fizzan
Cat-- thanks and eat me at the same time. I don't know any other way to put it.
You trust the head on my shoulders only so far, and that clearly states that you have more feelings (of hate) for Sarah than feelings (of friendship) for me. The only way this could have damaged a relationship is if you let it do so.
Without even intending/trying, Sarah won what you perceived to be her main goal throughout all of this. You've admitted defeat to her publically, on these boards.
And now, when she would likely pull a "Chad" on me now that my use is through, I should be posting my first new gripe within a few days, right?
We'll see. We'll see.
Since you, too, dubbed me on of her typical boys, I must do as I said I would-- ha, ha, in the grill.
--Fizzan's Player
"It's hot as Hell, but it snows 'round here..."
Oh yeah... hope everyone's having a Happy New Year! ::cheers:: Pardon any typos or ridiculously worded sentences-- I'm krunk as a skunk.
No, I didn't. I wish you would read that again because I think you completley mistook what I was trying to say. I just, my god, Don't know how to react to that. If I cry I feel like an ass for reacting like that to someone I only know online. I guess I just hope she was worth it.
Cat, who feels like an ass
*Edited to add
I havn't admitted defeat. Technically I gave you what you wanted and I still lost you anyway, but... In your opinion I "never really had you to begin with" right? Maybe I should change that winning sentance to say what I meant, that she's basically being rewarded for her lies and all the problems shes caused people.
[Edited on 1-1-2004 by The Cat In The Hat]
[Edited on 1-1-2004 by The Cat In The Hat]
The Cat In The Hat
01-01-2004, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by Fizzan
You trust the head on my shoulders only so far, and that clearly states that you have more feelings (of hate) for Sarah than feelings (of friendship) for me. The only way this could have damaged a relationship is if you let it do so.
No, Maybe it's that you were talking to me in IM's at the time of fixing things with Khaladon and didnt say a fucking word. JUST MAYBE it's because I found out like everyone else here did. Sarah isn't a part of the big fucking picture. She's the cause, but not the star.
Cat
Xcalibur
01-01-2004, 12:30 PM
Hmm, it's so vague I think only you 2 are understanding what is happening.
Fact is, Teeoncy won yet again.
Shalla
01-01-2004, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by The Cat In The Hat
I havn't admitted defeat. Technically I gave you what you wanted and I still lost you anyway, but... In your opinion I "never really had you to begin with" right? Maybe I should change that winning sentance to say what I meant, that she's basically being rewarded for her lies and all the problems shes caused people.
You're right.. You didn't accept defeat.. IF anything.. You had the maturity to just let it go and not care. This is trivial! And for anybody to claim that they won this arguement.. or they got away with all the immature things they have been doing. Is a fool! This is but an online issue.. IT WILL NOT AFFECT YOUR LIFE IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, and winning or getting away with this insignificant accomplishment will not change that their maturity.. their behaviour.. their mental state.. THEIR WHOLE LIFE is tied to their computer. That said.. You should pity them.. For all their levels in game.. for all their popularity.. for all their wealth or for all the annoying things they have caused everybody else. It all comes down to that they are nothing but a pathetic.. insignificant individual left in their own world of gemstone. Bask in your online triumphant glory you foolish thing. I laugh at you.. For that is the worst punishment I could think of.. left in your own illusions... :flamed:
Edit: You shouldn't feel bad cat. That's her reward right there. :lol:
[Edited on 1-1-2004 by Lady Shalla]
Fizzan
01-01-2004, 12:43 PM
X-- That disclaimer about being krunk should cover the fact that I crossed your post with Edine's, in reference to the picture.
And if you're honoring her request, then you be careful. That's three times, with three posts following shortly there after that you're going to "step out of this thread".
Ansherak-- my man. Yes!!!
Cat--
You are twenty-something years old, with child, yet you don't understand the concept of someone going afk? My dog was covered in mud, sprinting his 60 pound ass through my parents house-- I had to step away to fix him, and I come back to three quick IM's and a giant ignore. Lovely.
HarmNone-- also a yes!
Anyone understand the concept of self-defeat?
--Fizzan's Player
"Anybody talkin' shit, you're gone end 'round here. Them 24's make them dubs look like 10's 'round here..."
Shalla
01-01-2004, 12:44 PM
er. :rolleyes:
[Edited on 1-1-2004 by Lady Shalla]
Edaarin
01-01-2004, 12:46 PM
I lost track of all the drama, and I don't feel like reading 6 pages of posts. Someone summarize what's going on now.
Shalla
01-01-2004, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by Fizzan
Ansherak-- my man. Yes!!!
He's the best! <3 Ansherak <3
[Edited on 1-1-2004 by Lady Shalla]
Fizzan
01-01-2004, 01:14 PM
Shalla-- I'd tell you what I really want to, but it'd get the post pulled. It's good advice none the less, so we'll leave it open ended-- go eat a...
"I'm just done with it ok? I care way too fucking much."
That's an IM from the person you're bragging on being able to leave it in their past.
The person you're calling pitiful at having "won" (which she never said, *I* did) could honestly care less about this aspect of the issue.
Point the finger in the right damn direction.
I pity you, for that post. Yes, pity the person who's played for however long to gain their levels, to gain friends in-game, to gain wealth.
Teeoncy is level 66. She is broke as a joke (I replaced her gear, I should know), and she clearly has no friends.
Cat's character is 78. She and her in-game husband are rich from power hunting fire mages, and she has more friends than she can probably name. Same goes for my character.
So who are you trying to flame up/insult? If it's Teeoncy, you're a damn idiot with no sense of what's grounded in reality. Your assumptions have totally blown that post to shreds, not to mention the griped-out nature of it.
Pitiful lies in slinging insults and down talking someone, making assumptions that the computer is their life. Pitiful lies in sniping at an easy target who is both no longer reading or posting this boards. Pitiful, Shalla, lies in you.
Your posts seem to be the best-organized gripes/flames/snipes, so let's see what you've got for me. Come with it.
--Fizzan's Player
"You freeze in the cold, and wither under heat. Fools be runnin' they mouth, but they don't run the street."
Shalla
01-01-2004, 01:17 PM
I have nothing for you Fizzan.. Simply because I couldn't care less about you. It's amazing how you think it's about you. Get over yourself.
I couldn't care less what you do with yourself. You can die your fat ass in your keyboard for all I care. I will ignore you now thank you.
And I am not going to argue any longer on what She says to you.. and What I have WITNESSED that she is responsible for.
Just because someone refuses to acknowledge your idiocy doesn't mean you are winning an arguement. It simply means you are NOT WORTH ARGUING WITH. For you lack the brain power or the capacity to hold a worthwhile one. And this isn't a worth while arguement.
You talk about people not being able to walk away from this drama. WATCH ME!
[Edited on 1-1-2004 by Lady Shalla]
CrystalTears
01-01-2004, 01:20 PM
::twitches:: I was hoping the new year would have new people to complalin about. Boy was I wrong! Why is this still going on?
TheRoseLady
01-01-2004, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by CrystalTears
::twitches:: I was hoping the new year would have new people to complalin about. Boy was I wrong! Why is this still going on?
Heh I was trying to follow this thread today and I'm lost. Anyone wanna give us a cliff notes version of it? :saint:
::wanders off to get some popcorn::
-TRL
Fizzan
01-01-2004, 01:31 PM
Good, get the fuck out. ::swings a kick at thin air:: Knew you wouldn't have anything logical to say to that.
How's that about me? I think I mention my own character once in that whole fucking post. Go eat one. Fast.
Cliff Notes--
Fizzan's the only one to do anything even remoltely useful in getting revenge on Teeoncy, and I got revenge at the same time on her player. Everyone else has to come here and obsess over griping.
I got away with an official Warning. Teeoncy's player and myself resolved things OOC, and made it known to the GM's that we could interact again.
People started insisting that I was another one of her boy-toys, so I promised I'd laugh in their faces, and have been.
Other people are emotionally effected by this ridiculous situation, and have mindless rags on their side, spitting out inconsistent, illogical, and straight-up assenine insults that have more grounds being aimed at the one their defending than the one their attacking. Then they punk out, close up, and leave. ((I re-iterate-- good.))
The damn thread was supposed to end three pages ago, but hasn't. People who claim to be letting it die, can't.
Petty hate for Teeoncy's player supercedes friendship and self-respect. Flames and snipes continue to run rampant. I gladly step in front of them and let them evaporate into a poorly-spun tapestry of lies and idiocy.
I leave anything out? ::snorts::
--Fizzan's Player
"You quick to back down..."
Betheny
01-01-2004, 01:33 PM
This whole thing screams 'personal problem' to me, I don't know why it's being discussed on the boards.
As for Teeoncy, she's an attention whore, I bet she's masturbating to this thread, right now.
CrystalTears
01-01-2004, 01:38 PM
Fizzan, sorry hon, but your insults about everyone complaining about their own, valid reasons for having a problem with Teeoncy character/player are no better.
Fizzan
01-01-2004, 01:42 PM
It's simple, the answer to your question, Maimara.
People (like you) can't resist one last little insult on an easy target who's both no longer defending herself, and has no respect or credibility to her name with which to defend herself.
Sarah's getting off on this attention?
And every last flame in this thread that wasn't posted in self-defense (as per my own) or the defense of someone else isn't getting the poster off in an even sicker way?
Give me a break.
If anyone doesn't have a life, I again point the finger at those of you with thousands of posts to your name.
On top of playing Gemstone, you can't stand being impotent in respect to doing anything about what Teeoncy/Kataleena/Sarah has done to you, so you come post here. Yay, you're so big!!! ::rolls his eyes::
Anyone else? Anyone at all?
--Fizzan's Player
"As I approach the scene, from smokin' green, got my eyes closed. Hatas so cold, all my foes, I make 'em die froze."
Fizzan
01-01-2004, 01:45 PM
They most certainly are. People are complaing about things that have been complained about in how many posts/threads on this board?
And how far in the past did those things happen?
My insults are a direct result of not doing what everyone keeps asking for-- end. The. Stupid. Thread.
I'm tired of freakin' keepin' track of it.
But thanks for the opinion and post without an insult or snipe. ::nods:: Refreshing.
--Fizzan's Player
Fizzan
01-01-2004, 01:48 PM
Oh yeah, what's more!!!
Maimara has griped to me in-game (though OOC) *about Cat's character and player*, for incidents that took place after she found the griffin sword piece.
And now, 'lo and behold, here she is griping *alongside* Cat's player, about someone else.
If that's not a justifiable situation to sling some truth (you call it "insults") around, I don't know what is.
--Fizzan's Player
[Edited on 1-1-2004 by Fizzan]
CrystalTears
01-01-2004, 01:49 PM
Sarah made herself a target, no one else. She caused these problems on herself. Just because she chooses not to post anymore doesn't make the reasons people don't like her any less valid. No one is just going to suddenly stop having issues with her just because she can't handle the situation anymore.
The problems with this character/player go quite a ways back at this point. She caused a lot of animosity among the posters and moderators, and I'm not tolerant of people who behave like that. She is no longer innocent and until she comes back and apologizes to staff and posters for her behavior, of blatently LYING to me to get her way, I won't care what people say about her because she brought it on herself.
CrystalTears
01-01-2004, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by Fizzan
Maimara has griped to me in-game (though OOC) *about Cat's character and player*, for incidents that took place after she found the griffin sword piece.
And now, 'lo and behold, here she is griping *alongside* Cat's player, about someone else.
And I have immense respect for Maimara because she deals with situations that bother her, not following what certain people say or feel. She follows her own beliefs, even if it means agreeing with people she doesn't necessarily like. She is her own person, so I'm more inclined to believe one of her gripes because they're genuine and not jumping on bandwagons.
Fizzan
01-01-2004, 01:55 PM
Nor do I care what people say about her, as I agree 100 percent that she has dug her own grave. I'd bet if you asked Sarah, she'd admit to it now.
And I'd bet if she knew it would produce another thousand snipes, gripes and flames, she'd come post that apology to you. (Of course, she'd just be called a liar again, and give more ammunition to those who choose to post ill things about her.)
Besides, you mean to tell me every person posting here has been directly effected by Sarah's actions? Come on, that's not right. Plainly so.
Anyone she deceived or pissed off in the first place couldn't have done so without some help (lack of worldly knowledge, self-respect, or plain old intelligence) from those she perpetrated these acts on.
Shouldn't you all have known better after the first issue surrounding her was made public?
Clearly so, yet you did not. And so it's time to get the flames on! ::busts out the filet's and burgers::
--Fizzan's Player, still very much amused.
Xcalibur
01-01-2004, 01:58 PM
Could you tell why you know the truth while all others are wrong then?
Please explain that, as it will surely help to understand this whole situation again
CrystalTears
01-01-2004, 01:59 PM
I'm directly affected by Sarah's actions. She also came to these boards and lied about several situations. No one has to be "directly" affected by her to know that she lies and is untrustworthy, they just have to witness it.
Bad actions are bad actions, regardless of who they are targetted to. A liar is a liar. Bin Laden is a bad person, I don't need him to personally hurt me to know that little tidbit.
[Edited on 1/1/2004 by CrystalTears]
GSTamral
01-01-2004, 02:02 PM
She can dig her own grave all she wants. She can apologize all she wants. She can cry all she wants. This doesn't change the fact that she is a liar, a deceiver, and a perpetuator of rumors.
Nothing she can say or do will change the fact that in the eyes of any who have known her, she is a liar and a generally nasty person, using whatever antics she deems preferable to undercut other people to get her own way.
Fizzan
01-01-2004, 02:03 PM
And my gripe is jumping on a band wagon?
::chuckles:: I don't think you meant to say that, but just wanted to clarify.
--Me
CrystalTears
01-01-2004, 02:06 PM
I never mentioned your gripe. I was speaking about Maimara since you seemed to try to invalidate her opinions just because they side with Cat. If I misunderstood your point, then I'm sorry. Besides, the bandwagon comment had nothing to do with you. I don't know you from Adam. I only see someone who is getting angry with a whole group of people for their opinion of someone they don't like. Welcome to Player's Corner. :P
GSTamral
01-01-2004, 02:07 PM
A Band Wagon of what? I am simply summarizing what people should take from this, and what people should realize from all of the experiences that people have had with Teeoncy. Nothing you can say will change my opinion, and I am sure plenty of others, speaking from their own experiences, will say something quite similar.
There arent many people who like the type who lie just to cause trouble to entertain themselves, or those who create drama and rumors just to satisfy their own means and humor themselves.
Fizzan
01-01-2004, 02:12 PM
Tamral, Crystal Tears-- I agree with you all 100 percent, again. Everyone has every right to hate Sarah, never trust her, and certainly never give her respect for the things she's done in the past. I couldn't agree with you more, in fact.
But I've yet to see someone post what happened, and let others decide for themselves. "She's a crazy bitch", "She's a whore", "She's a manipulative <expeltivedeleted>", etc etc are the common place things.
And when those ridiculous insults are thrown around, along with the notion that the poster is a bigger, better person, I just can't sit back and let something so blatantly erroneous remain un-checked.
Chad just pointed me to a thread called "Here!", which I will not go and read because my interest in this board lies within the thread with my character's name on it. However, I have come to understand that of the fifty some-odd pages, ripe with flames and gripes, only 3 posters or so truly had a right to be a upset.
There's your bandwagon. ::snorts::
There's no blind allegiance on this side, nor jumping in with everyone else. The *instant* I realized I had no real reason to hate on Sarah as a person, I stopped, and look what happened-- things are fixed, at least between us. I don't expect that out of everyone, or anyone, but I do expect people to at least freakin' lay off. Is that really so difficult?!
The only motherfucker (self-proclaimed) you'll find my blind allegiance going to is the author of this very post. Point blank and period.
I mean, can someone point out an instance in which I've been faced with well-thought out, well formed arguements that are based in reality and on fact to which I haven't submitted my agreement?
I find it speaks volumes on this situation that the three people who were the most adamant about hating on my character and myself in this thread *have retracted their statements and are now becoming friends of mine*, while those who were hating on them have suddenly turned their attentions elsewhere.
Now I've agreed with what you're saying-- address this issue.
How petty is this thread? ((And am I spelling petty right?))
--Fizzan's Player
Fizzan
01-01-2004, 02:17 PM
Crystal-- yeah, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't aimed at me. Heh. I didn't think that's what you meant, as I stated in my response.
I do want to clarify-- I could care less who hates who, who doesn't trust who, who won't give who a second chance.
I'm just saying... A lot of the credence given to some of these posts is illy-given credence.
Maimara's is, IMHO, not because she's siding with Cat, but because she was hating on Cat in the same manner not a month before.
I gripe on characters and players, but not publically so, to gain supporters and fellow-gripers. I just deal with it IC, or totally ignore the person.
Evidence of this? Of my 50 posts on these boards, you might find *one* not in this thread, and I'll give you three guesses as to who's name was on that thread, with the hint that it directly related to this particular situation.
And when this thread is over, so long as I'm not included in any further threads, my presence will be withdrawn. Simple.
So yeah, if you want to keep hating on Sarah publically without having to deal with trying to convince me that you're justified... start a new thread!
--Me
CrystalTears
01-01-2004, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by Fizzan
How petty is this thread? ((And am I spelling petty right?))
--Fizzan's Player
It's petty to you. It's apparently not petty to those she pissed off.
If I took away all the threads that I felt were petty, these boards would be really boring to read. But people have their reasons for getting upset and ranting.
Most threads in the official boards are petty because it's usually the same people bickering over the same situations that didn't go their way, or someone glanced at them sideways and should know better. It's human nature to rant and vent about things that they don't like. If someone likes something, they'll tell one person. If they hate something, they'll tell five.
I'm glad for you that you're able to see a better side of a person and got to the bottom of a problem. More power to you. However I will say that everyone in this world has allies. Just because someone has somebody on their side doesn't make them anymore nicer or innocent in the eyes of those they have already wronged.
By the way, people won't mention their problems with Teeoncy/Sarah AGAIN because they've all been said before. We don't need a repeating of those acts, thankyouverymuch.
CrystalTears
01-01-2004, 02:23 PM
If another thread is started about Teeoncy, I'll puke. Oh and pull it. Dead horses need to decompose.
Fizzan
01-01-2004, 02:34 PM
"By the way, people won't mention their problems with Teeoncy/Sarah AGAIN because they've all been said before. We don't need a repeating of those acts, thankyouverymuch."
Oh, so by that logic... it's better for them to just sit and gripe about seemingly nothing, to those of us who only came to this petty board because their name was on a thread? That... doesn't make sense to me. Maybe you can help.
"If I took away all the threads that I felt were petty, these boards would be really boring to read. But people have their reasons for getting upset and ranting."
Heh. Feel you on that one. I don't begrudge you your moderator duties in the least.
Of course, by admitting to the impossibility of removing petty posts, and implying that your job is more difficult due to having to decide which are too petty to remove... you have agreed, then, that most of them are petty as well, or so it would seem.
Is this right? Do you agree?
"Most threads in the official boards are petty because it's usually the same people bickering over the same situations that didn't go their way, or someone glanced at them sideways and should know better. It's human nature to rant and vent about things that they don't like. If someone likes something, they'll tell one person. If they hate something, they'll tell five."
Again, seems like you're making the points I"m trying to make, though the tone of your post is one of disagreement...
It's the same people, bickering over the same shit, in the same ridiculous manner. So why shouldn't they have the proverbial foot stuck in their ass?
"However I will say that everyone in this world has allies. Just because someone has somebody on their side doesn't make them anymore nicer or innocent in the eyes of those they have already wronged."
I don't want a single ally on this board, and certainly don't need one. Nor am I siding with Sarah. ::points to the post about siding with himself only, all the time::
"If another thread is started about Teeoncy, I'll puke. Oh and pull it. Dead horses need to decompose."
Three fucking cheers. Now, do you think that your wish will be granted? Clearly not.
Do you submit that the reason it won't be granted is because people are too content to carry their grudges and gang up on a helpless target?
--Fizzan's Player
CrystalTears
01-01-2004, 02:38 PM
I'm not going to argue these points anymore. However all I'm going to say is...
Helpless target?! :lol:
Xcalibur
01-01-2004, 02:47 PM
What i find pitiful, is the fact she'll (teeoncy) came out 1-2 month later
Acting as if nothing happened and will try to befriend anyone beside STRANGELY people not having a short memory.
I still wonder why
Fizzan
01-01-2004, 02:47 PM
Fleh! I just wanted to know if you were arguing, or agreeing! ::pokes::
And I'd say anyone who doesn't have a single word they say believed is pretty helpless, whether that's their fault or not. Much less someone who can't retract their commitment to not posting anymore, and who is being pressured (by yours truly) to stop reading the boards altogether.
Eh, this thread is dead anyway.
Edited part-- X, five posts and counting since you claimed to be done with this. Five. Must be dull up in Canada. I'll leave it to someone else to tally the rest, which are surely following this fifth one. Who's lying now?
Call me what you will-- turncoat, deceived, flame-thrower, petty, insolent, arrogant, igracious, whatever.
I'm straight done with this thread, and hopefully, these waste-of-fucking-space boards.
Guess I stay at 2 stars, until the next "Fizzan" thread appears and someone points me back in the right direction.
Now that Cat's apparently given up, I doubt that'll ever happen again. Heh.
A gracious adios, then.
--Fizzan's Player
"The game is ours, we'll never wild-out. Ya'll just better hope we gracefully bow out..."
Which we shall.
[Edited on 1-1-2004 by Fizzan]
Betheny
01-01-2004, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by Fizzan
Oh yeah, what's more!!!
Maimara has griped to me in-game (though OOC) *about Cat's character and player*, for incidents that took place after she found the griffin sword piece.
And now, 'lo and behold, here she is griping *alongside* Cat's player, about someone else.
If that's not a justifiable situation to sling some truth (you call it "insults") around, I don't know what is.
--Fizzan's Player
[Edited on 1-1-2004 by Fizzan]
I don't even know you.
Xcalibur
01-01-2004, 03:05 PM
Cat asked me to stop the bashing, not to stop talking to you, participating in this topic or do whatever I want
Canada sounds less boring than the US ;)
Stop that, ok?
Shalla
01-01-2004, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by Xcalibur
Canada sounds less boring than the US ;)
Are you kidding me? We're the BOMB-diggity!
Xcalibur
01-01-2004, 03:11 PM
Here, it's so fun, we are 10 celsius degree or so over the normal temperature
talk about fun :D
Shalla
01-01-2004, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by Xcalibur
Here, it's so fun, we are 10 celsius degree or so over the normal temperature
talk about fun :D
The weather is nice outside in the greater toronto area.
Evelith
01-01-2004, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by The Cat In The Hat
That wouldnt be suprising to find thats Sarah, shes created 2 other names here and lied to stick up for herself saying they were someone else.
Cat
Hey!
Alright, I really have nothing to respond worth importance but I feel like I must. I liked Fizzan's post, that is all.
-Sarah, but..a different one. Yah.
Weedmage Princess
01-01-2004, 04:05 PM
Hmm..you know, Fizzan..maybe I'm late, maybe I'm not totally understanding something here (totally possible given I've worked overnight and am dead tired) but..with each post you make, it seems to me that you have this problem with people making negative posts about Teeoncy, making derogatory comments, etc.
I think it's great that you worked out your issues with her, and are willing to forgive and forget. And you know, if she really does do this 180 and stops telling lies and being the horrible person she was, that's fine. HOWEVER..just because YOU decide to give her this chance, just because you want to forgive and forget, and move on..doesn't mean every and anyone else has to.
I really don't care what becomes of Teeoncy or her player, to be honest, nor do I have any intention of forgiving and forgetting anything she's done, ever. In my eyes, she'll always be a liar. I don't, nor will I ever believe anything she says. I'm not a forgiving person--one of my character flaws..believe it or not I ain't perfect...so I don't care how many times she apologized to me..I'll never forgive her. If she was lying on the street on fire, I wouldn't stop to piss on her...and if a situation arised where something she's done/said was brought to attention (like on these forums) you can best believe I'm going to state my opinions. She's marked with a horrible stigma by her own doing, and now she's got to pay the piper. That's the chance you take when you play those sort of games, and I don't care how harsh it may be..it is what it is. She's done messed up things to other people as well..and if their way of dealing with how they've been wronged is to gripe, call her names or whatever..that's their right. I'm not saying I agree with some people slamming her every chance they get--but just because I don't agree, doesn't mean I have a right to tell them not to do it, you follow me?
It all boils down to this. Had she not done the things she's done--REPEATEDLY--there would be no reason for people to say the things they say about her, treat her as they do, etc. etc. But she has..and if it bothers you that much to see people say the things they say about her, and she's not reading it anymore...maybe Fizzan..you should follow her lead.
I have more than a couple of friends who aren't well liked. They've done less than admirable things, things I don't agree with at all. However they are my friends, and it means something to me. So rather than sit around and listen to people trash them...I stay away from it. I know damn well I don't have a right to tell these people how they should and shouldn't feel and whether or not they should express it.
Again, you worked things out with her and dealt with her the way you felt was best for you. Just because you want to make nice though, doesn't mean everyone else should be expected to.
HarmNone
01-01-2004, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by CrystalTears
I'm not going to argue these points anymore. However all I'm going to say is...
Helpless target?! :lol:
Heh. I read that "helpless" part and nearly fell out of my chair! The person in question is anything but helpless, ol' man. :lol:
HarmNone
Fizzan two questions, one how can you chance a person after talking to them on the phone once.
Thats what I dont get and still question... what did she say to make you so strong a defender of hers?
<ps you insult people in your posts so I suggest you read what you type before you post it or else you make yourself a hypocrite...(in relation to what you told me about insulting you and making no point, and ignoring posts that that is done in.) which means you should Ignore your own posts no?
Xcalibur
01-01-2004, 06:48 PM
WHY PEOPLE DEFENDING THE ONE I WON'T BASH ARE ALWAYS REACTING THE DAMN SAME WAY?
Why are they always emotional, why are they always saying the same damn crap: I know her, you don't, now shut up.
Why why why?
so yeah im I will let it speak for itself
Teeoncy shows you a dark ruby-embedded collar, which she is wearing. This delicate collar is threaded with ruby roses along a black velvet band. A small plate attached to the collar reads, "I belong to M'Lord Fizzan."
Thank you for being truthfull on the boards Fizzan, either she is an obsessive psyco or you and her are "involved" in some way beyind what you hint at
Shalla
01-02-2004, 12:28 AM
AHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAAA! There we have it. :lol:
Teeoncy shows you a dark ruby-embedded collar, which she is wearing. This delicate collar is threaded with ruby roses along a black velvet band. A small plate attached to the collar reads, "I belong to M'Lord Fizzan."."
just so IM sure people see it... funny alter to get at sukara's no?
Miss X
01-02-2004, 12:32 AM
I thought she was engaged to Jonty?
I had it varified by two other people before I posted
Shalla
01-02-2004, 12:39 AM
Didn't she win at sukara's alteration? Didn't she get picked? Don't tell me that is what she got altered.
Well, fizzan certainly lost all credibility. For all his arguement.. He is nothing but a toy... that will eventually be discarded. :flamed:
:moon:
[Edited on 1-2-2004 by Lady Shalla]
Ravenstorm
01-02-2004, 12:45 AM
How sad. The knight in shining armor rushing to defend the reputation of a lady for the sole purpose of chivalry and justice turns out to be boffing her on the sly. Or something like that.
Yes, he /knows/ her in a way others don't. Biblically it seems.
Raven
[Edited on 1-2-2004 by Ravenstorm]
Warriorbird
01-02-2004, 12:58 AM
Oral sex is the world's greatest conversion tool. If he's not getting any anywhere else, I don't blame him.
[Edited on 1-2-2004 by Warriorbird]
phone sex, is more like it.<I am saying that in jest though I do hope it does not hit home>
let me point out Fizzan you have lost the small amount of credibility you had with me
Drew2
01-02-2004, 01:07 AM
All we need is a pregnancy scare and some weed and this is high school.
its more like saved by the bell, to many plot twists to be regular highschool
Drew2
01-02-2004, 01:12 AM
Not my High School.
Snapp
01-02-2004, 01:12 AM
I'm so excited! I'm so.. so.. SCARED! - Jessie on drugs
Shalla
01-02-2004, 01:13 AM
Originally posted by The Edine
Teeoncy shows you a dark ruby-embedded collar, which she is wearing. This delicate collar is threaded with ruby roses along a black velvet band. A small plate attached to the collar reads, "I belong to M'Lord Fizzan."."
just so IM sure people see it... funny alter to get at sukara's no?
Pathetic :flamed:
Bewitchindryad25
01-02-2004, 01:47 AM
...........
I'm NOT going to say a word. Really I'm not.
Stunseed
01-02-2004, 01:51 AM
But you know you want to. You really do.
Love you Jolena!
Originally posted by The Edine
Teeoncy shows you a dark ruby-embedded collar, which she is wearing. This delicate collar is threaded with ruby roses along a black velvet band. A small plate attached to the collar reads, "I belong to M'Lord Fizzan."
:?:
Vesi
Bewitchindryad25
01-02-2004, 01:56 AM
Originally posted by Stunseed
But you know you want to. You really do.
Love you Jolena!
Yes because I've just lost all respect for the man. But I was going to say hey Fizzan how does Chadj taste. I can't be that mean though :(
Stunseed
01-02-2004, 01:59 AM
Sure you can....Let your inner anger out. Flame the man, everyone and their third cousin knows he's got everything and more coming to him.
Love you Jolena!
Caramia
01-02-2004, 04:47 AM
Originally posted by Fizzan
"By the way, people won't mention their problems with Teeoncy/Sarah AGAIN because they've all been said before. We don't need a repeating of those acts, thankyouverymuch."
--Fizzan's Player
I've actually posted the issue with Teeoncy/Kataleena THREE times now, and each time it was ignored by Sarah, when she could have issued a response, and the last two times I posted it was in direct response to her comment that Teeoncy hasn't pissed off anyone in the last six months. I won't bother posting it a fourth time, because it'll only get ignored again. She won't admit she did it.
And Teeoncy, if you either decided to flirt-mess with my boyfriend/lover/husband in the game, I hope you can handle the response to it, which will totally be IC and certainly not WARN worthy.
I don't call kissing strange men and telling their women that he's slept with them or others flirting. And it's a pretty sick test of fidelity too, so I hope some woman gives you back what you put out there.
Caramia
01-02-2004, 05:20 AM
Reading back 5 pages, I have this to offer to Sarah:
1. If you really wish to rebuild your character and put an end to this thread, then admit to the specific things you lied about to us and apologize for doing so. If done sincerely and without an attitude, perhaps people will let this die. To lie just to entertain yourself borders on the psychopathic.
2. Then do as HarmNone suggested and be quiet for a spell, less haughty when you do post, don't tell anymore lies, and go work on what you wish to change.
3. Wait until change happens, then demonstrate it in small ways. Don't promise, don't boast, don't dismiss.
My first lover was a liar and finally couldn't keep track of all the lies told. I was too weak to walk away, but finally someone else sat me down and told me that it was all just a game and my head was getting played with (sorry Chadj, if I'd recalled this sooner, I could have warned you). My friend also suggested that I stop playing the games too, stop participating and getting sucked up into them. A difficult task, but with each attempt it got easier and easier. And voila, I was able to see things for what they were... and got the hell out while I still had some sense of self.
Today, the longest relationship my ex-lover has been in was two years, and they were abusive, probably enabled by the compulsive lying. My relationships have lasted significantly longer and have open, honest communication.
Drew2
01-02-2004, 05:22 AM
PLEASE LET THIS THREAD DIE.
Originally posted by Fizzan
Jesus christ man. One word: Succinence
Tsa`ah
01-02-2004, 07:48 AM
If this thread can't get on topic in the next few posts, it's getting locked. There's too much crap in here that should be deletion fodder.
CrystalTears
01-02-2004, 07:59 AM
Unfortunately it is all on topic, that's what scares me.
Xcalibur
01-02-2004, 09:34 AM
I repeat it, no one that defended her, to date, was not involved in something with her.
It seems the only way she can get support is with that.
Completely pitiful. Not on her part, but on the part of the guys that fell into this
Shalla
01-02-2004, 10:19 AM
Chadj wasn't even defending her last night in chat anymore wasn't he? Fizzan is such a tool.. A fool and a tool and a Ghoul. hehee :lol:
Jonty
01-02-2004, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by Miss X
I thought she was engaged to Jonty?
Nope.
- Me
Miss X
01-02-2004, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by Jonty
Originally posted by Miss X
I thought she was engaged to Jonty?
Nope.
- Me
Ah, my bad. You were never engaged ever? (yeah, I'm nosey I know) :lol:
Jonty
01-02-2004, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by Miss X
Ah, my bad. You were never engaged ever? (yeah, I'm nosey I know) :lol:
Yes. :)
- Me
Betheny
01-02-2004, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by Tayre
All we need is a pregnancy scare and some weed and this is high school.
I'm pregnant with peam's puppies. Now I have to put the bong away. :(
Why dont you just pass the bong.. putting it away would just be too mean.
SpunGirl
01-04-2004, 07:44 PM
I thought you guys WERE engaged, and you broke it off. Correct if wrong please, Jonty.
-K
Hmm odd how Fizzan just went away Is it not?
Rastaman
01-04-2004, 07:47 PM
Whats even weirder is he quoted Jay-Z in last post. WTF is that?
Jonty
01-04-2004, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by SpunGirl
I thought you guys WERE engaged, and you broke it off. Correct if wrong please, Jonty.
-K
Opps uhh, yeah, that's what I meant. Who cares anyway?
- Me
No I was insulted for my views, and now I want an answer.
/wave padlock and chains.
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