Obama, finally proud!

[Parkbandit]

Michelle Obama: "For the First Time in My Adult Lifetime, I'm Really Proud of My Country"

Speaking in Wisconsin today, would-be First Lady Michelle Obama said, "For the first time in my adult lifetime I am really proud of my country. And not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change."

The whole quote in context is: "What we've learned over this year is that hope is making a comeback. It is making a comeback and let me tell you something, for the first time in my adult lifetime, I'm really proud of my country. And not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change. And I have been desperate to see our country moving in that direction and just not feeling so alone in my frustration and disappointment. I've seen people who are hungry to be unified around some basic common issues, and it's made me proud. And I feel privileged to be a part of even witnessing this, traveling around states all over this country and being reminded that there is more that unites us than divides us..."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/michelle-obam-1.html

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I think it's great we finally live up to her high standards.

[Peanut Butter Jelly Time]

Who cares? Your entire post essentially said: A woman had an opinion. If we stopped and replied thirty times to every post that was ultimately the same, this forum would've been the next e-sensation due to the activity alone.

[Parkbandit]

Who cares? Your entire post essentially said: A woman had an opinion. If we stopped and replied thirty times to every post that was ultimately the same, this forum would've been the next e-sensation due to the activity alone.


You're an idiot. Maybe you should make a new thread about how dumb you are.

Let the adults talk politics.. run along now.

[Peanut Butter Jelly Time]

You're an idiot. Maybe you should make a new thread about how dumb you are.

Maybe I should... maybe I should....

[Methais]

Maybe I should... maybe I should....

Maybe...maybe not. Maybe fuck yourself.
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[Sean of the Thread]

Maybe...maybe not. Maybe fuck yourself.
http://www.filmgecko.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/Mark-Wahlberg-the-departed-oscar.jpg

lol that shit is funny. Go fuck yourself.

[Keller]

So the woman has been traveling the country campaigning for president with her husband and has been inspired by witnessing hopeful people . . . and you still find a way to criticise her. Nice.

[Parkbandit]

It was a stupid thing to say.. as it is offensive to some people who are proud and have been proud to be Americans from the start.

[Warriorbird]

Stupid thing to try to spin. McCain shouldn't campaign Hillary or Bush style.

[Parkbandit]

Stupid thing to try to spin. McCain shouldn't campaign Hillary or Bush style.


:rofl:

The stupid part was on Michelle Obama's.. saying something stupid. This really was the first time in her adult life where she was proud to be an American? WTF!?

McCain's wife came out and said “I just wanted to make the statement that I have and always will be proud of my country,”

We're talking about the potential First Lady not being proud of her country until now.

It's just a stupid comment to make during a close nomination process.

If you want an example of stupid spin, see your signatures, dumbass.

[Keller]

It was a stupid thing to say.. as it is offensive to some people who are proud and have been proud to be Americans from the start.

You can be "proud of your family" when you're a kid and you look up to your grandpa -- but it's an entirely different than being "proud of your kid" when you travel the country and see a nation hoping for change.

I think you're stretching a positive message to its limits to find a semantic weakness. But that's just my opinion.

[Tsa`ah]

I think it's great we finally live up to her high standards.

I don't think this would even qualify as stretching .... let alone spin. There's another word I'm thinking of .....

[Ilvane]

For the first time in her life..she is proud of her country..

That says enough doesn't it?

[Daniel]

Lol @ ilvane.

[oldanforgotten]

Lol @ ilvane.

Coffee: $1

Newspaper subscription to read about the elections: $5/week

Seeing Parkbandit and Ilvane on the same side of an argument arguing the logical merit of something beyond ridiculous: Priceless.
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[CrystalTears]

If that's the worst to come out of the Obama family, I look forward to them gaining the presidency should that be their fate.

[Clove]

Coffee: $1

Newspaper subscription to read about the elections: $5/week

Seeing Parkbandit and Ilvane on the same side of an argument arguing the logical merit of something beyond ridiculous: Priceless.

Just wait until they're both voting for McCain.

[CrystalTears]

Just wait until they're both voting for McCain.
Haha, best year EVAR!!

[Parkbandit]

Coffee: $1

Newspaper subscription to read about the elections: $5/week

Seeing Parkbandit and Ilvane on the same side of an argument arguing the logical merit of something beyond ridiculous: Priceless.

Internet connection: $40 a month

Going to a cafe: $10 a visit

Bragging how you will smash someone's laptop and kill their cat on the internet in the cafe: Beyond fucking stupid.



Ilvane posting in political threads - Stupid

Backlash creating different names to post - Beyond Stupid

You being run off the forums, only to come back and post the same stupid way - Beyond Backlashian Stupid aka Tamral Stupid



Seriously.. this is one road you shouldn't have come down. Quit now, before I make you cry and you have to take another sabbatical from the boards.. only to come back as another name. If you are that embarrassed to post under your initial name because of seriously stupid comments before.. perhaps this isn't the forum for you.

[Parkbandit]

Now, back on topic.

If this was such a stretch by me... why again is it showing up on liberal 'news' programs like Today Show?

Again.. it was a dumb thing to say.. I'm not quite ready to say Clinton will gain traction from it.. but it doesn't change the fact that it was a dumb thing to say. If it wasn't a dumb thing to say.. people wouldn't be talking about it as such.

[oldanforgotten]

Internet connection: $40 a month

Going to a cafe: $10 a visit

Bragging how you will smash someone's laptop and kill their cat on the internet in the cafe: Beyond fucking stupid.



Ilvane posting in political threads - Stupid

Backlash creating different names to post - Beyond Stupid

You being run off the forums, only to come back and post the same stupid way - Beyond Backlashian Stupid aka Tamral Stupid



Seriously.. this is one road you shouldn't have come down. Quit now, before I make you cry and you have to take another sabbatical from the boards.. only to come back as another name. If you are that embarrassed to post under your initial name because of seriously stupid comments before.. perhaps this isn't the forum for you.


my my, aren't your panties in a bunch this morning. I love the assumptions game, but I think the real point here is that you and Ilvane are having a party together!
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[Parkbandit]

my my, aren't your panties in a bunch this morning. I love the assumptions game, but I think the real point here is that you and Ilvane are having a party together!

I love the denial game better. You are almost as good at it as Bill Clinton. I think the real point here is that your reputation here is almost as bad as Backlash's. At LEAST he's semi-owned up to his past transgressions. You simply try to reinvent yourself by changing your name.. but not your constant bullshit.

And my panties are never in a bunch. Take a swing at me though, I'm libel to come at you full force. Can't take it? Don't take a swing.

I guess you could always use the DE (Daniel Excuse) of "Teh Internet R Serious Business!"

[oldanforgotten]

Party at Parkbandit + Ilvanes!
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[Parkbandit]

Party at Parkbandit + Ilvanes!


Sorry pal.. I have a cat. The last thing I need is any problems with you and "Kitty Girl"

[TheEschaton]

"liable", not "libel", old man.

Edit: There are numerous times I have NOT been proud of my country in the past 8 years, so I find Mrs. McCain's comments more patently ridiculous, jingoistic, and patriotism-for-the-sake-of-attacking than Michelle Obama's.

[Parkbandit]

"liable", not "libel", old man.

Edit: There are numerous times I have NOT been proud of my country in the past 8 years, so I find Mrs. McCain's comments more patently ridiculous, jingoistic, and patriotism-for-the-sake-of-attacking than Michelle Obama's.


Big Surprise Mr. France.

[TheEschaton]

Were you and Mrs. McCain proud when it was discovered we were torturing people in Abu Gharaib? If you were, then you've let patriotism blind you from what it actually means to be American.

[Clove]

Not really, but since some of the offenders were from W. Virginia, it's really one of those relative things.

[TheEschaton]

Torture is never relative, John Yoo made it relative.

[Lyonis]

I love the denial game better. You are almost as good at it as Bill Clinton. I think the real point here is that your reputation here is almost as bad as Backlash's. At LEAST he's semi-owned up to his past transgressions. You simply try to reinvent yourself by changing your name.. but not your constant bullshit.




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Tamral 0

[Lyonis]

On topic, I can understand how someone can love something yet not be proud of it. I without doubt love America but there are certain things I am not proud of in our long history. If I was a minority, it would be even more justifiable, especially if you're old enough to remember when things really sucked.

I think Chris Rock said it best, and I'm just paraphrasing here...

"America is the greatest country in the world, even if you're black. You just got to look at things a little different. If you're black, America is like the Uncle that paid your way through college....but molested you as a kid."

[Keller]

On topic, I can understand how someone can love something yet not be proud of it. I without doubt love America but there are certain things I am not proud of in our long history. If I was a minority, it would be even more justifiable, especially if you're old enough to remember when things really sucked.

I think Chris Rock said it best, and I'm just paraphrasing here...

"America is the greatest country in the world, even if you're black. You just got to look at things a little different. If you're black, America is like the Uncle that paid your way through college....but molested you as a kid."

I think the distinction can be even more subtle between two types of pride. There is a pride in heritage, in being part of something. I think that's more of a passive pride and for the most part you never lose it. Then there is the pride originating from a positive behavior. I think Mrs. McCain is talking about the former while Mrs. Obama is talking about the latter.

[Parkbandit]

On topic, I can understand how someone can love something yet not be proud of it. I without doubt love America but there are certain things I am not proud of in our long history. If I was a minority, it would be even more justifiable, especially if you're old enough to remember when things really sucked.

I think Chris Rock said it best, and I'm just paraphrasing here...

"America is the greatest country in the world, even if you're black. You just got to look at things a little different. If you're black, America is like the Uncle that paid your way through college....but molested you as a kid."


There is a huge difference of not being proud of your country on certain occasions and being the first time ever being proud of your country.

One is understandable. One is just dumb.

[Parkbandit]

Were you and Mrs. McCain proud when it was discovered we were torturing people in Abu Gharaib? If you were, then you've let patriotism blind you from what it actually means to be American.

Again. Big difference between not being proud of America in certain instances and being proud for the very first time at the age of 44.

[Latrinsorm]

It's almost like Mrs. Obama grew up in a country where Presidential candidates got elected on the basis of divisive and hate-filled racism.

That aside, the statement Mrs. Obama made was "really proud", not just "proud". Thread over.

[Davenshire]

That aside, the statement Mrs. Obama made was "really proud", not just "proud". Thread over.

It's pretty fucking sad that there is so little on the Obamas to dredge up that the media and certain slappies have to bring up shit like this and pull it way the hell out of context to puss about.

Well...whatever gives them a chance to win in Ohio and Texas and November....


PB, I know you have a deep seated irrational hatred for all things not republican, but try to stay a little open minded, hmmmm?

[Crazy Bard]

This is dumb ..Look how many times McCain switches from side to side on topics. He's unpredictable, and a reincarnation of Bush! He uses words repetitively ( Not slogans in his campaign, niether), like "my friends", or "Ideals". The only reason this nominee looks decent is because he has no competition, and hardly anyone is watching him like Hillary to Obama.

[Parkbandit]

PB, I know you have a deep seated irrational hatred for all things not republican, but try to stay a little open minded, hmmmm?

:rofl:

Best line ever coming from you.. Mr. Bush Basher.

And please.. there is SOO much more that we can discuss about Obama if you would like. We can start by his socialist agenda and subsequent cost of campaign promises.. then move over to his lack of bringing about any meaningful legislation in the Senate.. trust me, there's plenty.

[Keller]

:rofl:

Best line ever coming from you.. Mr. Bush Basher.

And please.. there is SOO much more that we can discuss about Obama if you would like. We can start by his socialist agenda and subsequent cost of campaign promises.. then move over to his lack of bringing about any meaningful legislation in the Senate.. trust me, there's plenty.

That's a great outline.

ParkBandit, could you please address the following substantive issues in a meaningful way:

(1) Obama's socialist agenda: What is it? Is it good or is it bad? How much will it cost? Where will the revenue come from?

(2) Obama has been a senator for roughly three years, what sort of legislation has he proposed? What types of legislation do junior senators usually propose?

[Back]

Kudos to PB for putting the quote in it’s entire context... but let me ask you this.

Semantics aside why would that offend someone who was proud ten years ago, or twenty, or however longer? Wouldn’t the reaction be something along the lines of, “Great! Glad to have you aboard! We all feel the same!”?

[Parkbandit]

Kudos to PB for putting the quote in it’s entire context... but let me ask you this.

Semantics aside why would that offend someone who was proud ten years ago, or twenty, or however longer? Wouldn’t the reaction be something along the lines of, “Great! Glad to have you aboard! We all feel the same!”?


To me, it shows a deep dislike for your country if the first time you have ever been proud of it is at age 44. So, born in 1964.. she mentioned adult life.. so minus 18 years. So, from 1982 to 2008, there was never a time for her to be proud to be an American? I can think of many instances where I was proud to be an American during that time.

[CrystalTears]

That aside, the statement Mrs. Obama made was "really proud", not just "proud". Thread over.
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