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Daniel
02-12-2008, 10:57 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/02/11/prison.boss/index.html

TALLAHASSEE, Florida (CNN) -- Softball, drunken orgies and a prison system run like the mafia. That's what Florida's former prison secretary says he inherited when he took over one of the nation's largest prison systems two years ago.


This house, on prison grounds in Florida, is described as a party house where prison officials held orgies.

1 of 2 more photos » In fact, on his first day on the job, James McDonough says he walked into his office -- the same one his predecessor used -- and there was crime scene tape preventing anyone from entering.

"That was an indication we had a problem in the department," McDonough told CNN in an exclusive interview before he stepped down last Thursday.

McDonough revealed a startling list of alleged abuses and crimes going on inside Florida's prisons:

• Top prison officials admitting to kickbacks;

• Guards importing and selling steroids in an effort to give them an edge on the softball field;

• Taxpayer funds to pay for booze and women;

• Guards who punished other guards who threatened to report them.

"Corruption had gone to an extreme," McDonough said, saying it all began at the top. "They seemed to be drunk half the time and had orgies the other half, when they weren't taking money and beating each other up." Watch a corrupted prison system »

He added, "Women were treated like chattel in this department."

McDonough described a bizarre prison culture among those that ran the system -- one that he says seemed obsessed with inter-department softball games and the orgies after games.

"I cannot explain how big an obsession softball had become," he said. "People were promoted on the spot after a softball game at the drunken party to high positions in the department because they were able to hit a softball out of the park a couple times."

"The connection between the softball and the parties and the corruption and the beatings was greatly intertwined."

The parties and orgies were often carried out at a waterfront house built on prison grounds for a former warden with taxpayer dollars, McDonough said. The house was complete with a bar, pool table and hot tub. See photos of the "party house" »

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McDonough is a former Army colonel who commanded troops in Vietnam and Africa. He served as Florida's drug czar before taking on the job as the head of Florida's prison system, which oversees 90,000 inmates.

He left his post last Thursday as secretary of Florida's Department of Corrections because, he says, he feels he has cleaned up the corruption. It's time, he said, "to turn this over to law and order people that have made this their life's goal."

A Brooklyn, New York, native, McDonough says he witnessed the way the mafia worked in his youth and it provided him a keen insight into how his prison predecessor, James Crosby, operated.

"It reminded me of the petty mafia I saw on the streets of Brooklyn when I was growing up in the late 1950s, early 1960s -- petty, small-minded, thugish, violent, dangerous, outside the law, and completely intolerable for a society such as ours in the United States of America," he said.

Crosby would later plead guilty to bribery charges in relation to kickbacks from a prison vendor. He's now locked up in a federal prison. He refused CNN's request for an interview for this report.

"He's serving time in a federal prison. I hope he reforms and gets out and prospers," McDonough said.

He added, "When you have a rotten guy at the top, or gal at the top, it can be very invasive, and it's a cancer that needs to be excised."

And getting rid of this "cancer" is exactly what McDonough says he did. McDonough fired 90 top prison officials -- wardens, supervisors, colonels and majors -- claiming they were corrupt or, at the very least, not to be trusted. He demoted 280 others.

Criminal charges were filed against more than 40 others, and most were convicted. Among those arrested were seven officers accused of beating inmates, including five accused of forcing a prisoner to drink toilet water. All have pleaded not guilty.

Tina Hayes, the director of the prison's department initiatives who has worked in the prison system for 28 years, said the atmosphere before McDonough arrived was "a little tense" with workers "always on edge."

She said employees who didn't attend softball games or play on the teams were "isolated" and "pushed aside."

"I used to tell staff day in and day out: Keep your head high; do what's right; you know what morally is right; you've got some ethics; don't bow down to it," Hayes told CNN.

McDonough, she said, brought "standards back into the department."

"People can speak out now without being afraid to say what they need to say."


McDonough says the majority of the prison system's 28,000 employees were honest, hard-working people who weren't corrupt at all. But he says many of the top prison officials weren't and he believes he has weeded out "an organized vein of corruption."

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I'm shocked and appalled.

Celephais
02-12-2008, 11:07 AM
Nothing wrong with a little softball...

Gan
02-12-2008, 11:08 AM
wow

WTF is going on in Florida???

Clove
02-12-2008, 11:13 AM
Sex and Softball.

Sean of the Thread
02-12-2008, 11:17 AM
Meh. I'd wager that occurs in EVERY prison system across the states.

I have no first hand experience but I've heard all the stories. My step brother has personally been on "take out" gangs that go and pick up road kill to process for prison meals.

Cut a little money on the meals spend a little on steroids and booze... heheheh.

Florida's prisons are known to be of the most bad ass variety in the nation. Raiford isn't called "Gladiator School" for nothing.

As far as the softball claims.. I believe it. Remember now that The Longest Yard took place in Florida.

Gan
02-12-2008, 12:27 PM
Not in Texas State prisons.

We have done, still do some fucked up shit... but LOL not to this extent.

This is like a bad episode of OZ.

Sean of the Thread
02-12-2008, 12:30 PM
Not in Texas State prisons.



Bullshit.

Gan
02-12-2008, 12:33 PM
Bullshit.

Been there, I know the regulatory process that oversees how they work.

Again, Texas prisons do some fucked up shit. But drunk guards, orgies, softball tournaments and pushing steroids on a unit (read non-individual) level doesnt happen in our state institutions.

I cant speak for private prisons or county prisons.

Sean of the Thread
02-12-2008, 12:37 PM
You honestly can't speak for all (any) of them definitively.


(Either can I.)

Gan
02-12-2008, 01:17 PM
You honestly can't speak for all (any) of them definitively.


(Either can I.)

Legally, you are correct.

I just know how much oversight is shoved down each unit's throat from the days of Judge Wililam Wayne Justice and the Ruiz v. Estelle case.

In order for a scenario like that to happen you would have to have 100% complicity with 100% of all inmates - including writ writers.

The thing about prison and inmates are the games that are played. One of the famous scenarios is if an inmate catches you doing something you're not supposed to - they will try to blackmail you into doing something against the rules for them (starts out small) or they'll roll you.

I can see numerous instances of inmates (not only writ writers) pushing the envelope for blackmail if they ever caught wind of things like this going on. Eventually a guard, an officer, etc. will balk and the beans would get spilled.

And OMG dont get me started on writ writers. :soap:

DeV
02-12-2008, 01:59 PM
What gets me were the oddly obsessive attitudes toward softball games and the combined use of steroids to aid in racking up home runs on the field and off. All of it just seems absurd as fuck. It would be interesting to know more details regarding how the corruption was weeded out and whether the snakes who ratted out their former orgy buddies were held accountable for their actions or promoted for doing what they should have a long time ago.

BigWorm
02-12-2008, 02:40 PM
I cant speak for private prisons or county prisons.

Isn't that the majority of prisons? I mean, I would think there is less than one state prison per county and also many of those are privatized nowadays.

radamanthys
02-12-2008, 03:29 PM
In NY, fucked up stuff happens (it IS prison after all), but nothing near to what this is. There is so much red tape inherent to the system that it's just shy of impossible.

Gan
02-12-2008, 03:39 PM
Isn't that the majority of prisons? I mean, I would think there is less than one state prison per county and also many of those are privatized nowadays.

As of August 2006 there were 152K inmates in State facilities.
http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/publications/executive/FY_2006_Statistical_Report.pdf

There are 254? counties in Texas...
So there would be an average population of 598 inmates PER county. I could see that number easily reached and even surpassed in large metropolitan areas (San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, Ft. Worth, Austin) but not in every rural county.

This doesnt take private prisons into consideration, which would add to the number providing the state isnt renting bedspace on a contract basis - which they currently do. Nor does this include anyone held in facilities for ICE.