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Xaerve
01-31-2008, 08:59 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/30/opinion/30dowd.html


January 30, 2008
Op-Ed Columnist
Seeing Red Over Hillary
By MAUREEN DOWD

WASHINGTON

Even newly armored by the spirit of Camelot, Barack Obama is still distressed by the sight of a certain damsel.

It’s already famous as The Snub, the moment before the State of the Union when Obama turned away to talk to Claire McCaskill instead of trying to join Teddy Kennedy in shaking hands with Hillary.

Nobody cared about W., whose presidency had crumpled into a belated concern about earmarks.

The only union that fascinated was Obama and Hillary, once more creeping around each other.

It would have been the natural thing for the Illinois senator, only hours after his emotional embrace by the Kennedys and an arena full of deliriously shrieking students, to follow the lead of Uncle Teddy and greet the rebuffed Hillary.

She was impossible to miss in the sea of dark suits and Supreme Court dark robes. Like Scarlett O’Hara after a public humiliation, Hillary showed up at the gathering wearing a defiant shade of red.

But the fact that he didn’t do so shows that Obama cannot hide how much the Clintons rattle him, and that he is still taking the race very personally.

On a flight to Kansas yesterday to collect another big endorsement, this one from Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, Obama said he was “surprised” by reports of The Snub.

“I was turning away because Claire asked me a question as Senator Kennedy was reaching forward,” he said. “Senator Clinton and I have had very cordial relations off the floor and on the floor. I waved at her as I was coming into the Senate chamber before we walked over last night. I think there is just a lot more tea leaf reading going on here than I think people are suggesting.”

But that answer is disingenuous. Their relations have been frosty and fraught ever since the young Chicago prince challenged Queen Hillary’s royal proclamation that it was her turn to rule.

Last winter, after news broke that he was thinking of running, he winked at her and took her elbow on the Senate floor to say hi, in his customary languid, friendly way, and she coldly brushed him off.

It bothered him, and he called a friend to say: You would not believe what just happened with Hillary.

Again and again at debates, he looked eager to greet her or be friendly during the evening and she iced him. She might have frozen him out once more Monday night had he actually tried to reach out.

But now Obama is like that cat Mark Twain wrote about who wouldn’t jump on the stove again for fear of being burned.

It was only after the distortions of the Clintons in South Carolina that he changed his tone and took on Hillary in a tough way in the debate there. Afterward, one of his advisers said that it was as though a dam had broken and Obama finally began using all the sharp lines against Hillary that strategists had been suggesting for months.

Why had it taken so long for Obama to push back against Hillary? “He respected her as a senator,” the adviser replied. “He even defended her privately when she cried, saying that no one knows how hard these campaigns are.”

But Obama’s outrage makes him seem a little jejune. He is surely the only person in the country who was surprised when the Clintons teamed up to dissemble and smear when confronted with an impediment to their ambitions.

Knowing that it helped her when Obama seemed to be surly with her during the New Hampshire debate, telling her without looking up from his notes that she was “likable enough” — another instance of Obama not being able to hide his bruised feelings — Hillary went on ABC News last night to insinuate that he was rude Monday.

“Well, I reached my hand out in friendship and unity and my hand is still reaching out,” she said, lapsing back into the dissed-woman mode. “And I look forward to shaking his hand sometime soon.”

Something’s being stretched here, but it’s not her hand. She wasn’t reaching out to him at all.

The New York State chapter of NOW issued an absurd statement on Monday calling Teddy Kennedy’s endorsement of Obama “the ultimate betrayal”: “He’s picked the new guy over us.”

But Obama is the more emotionally delicate candidate, and the one who has the more feminine consensus management style, and the not-blinded-by-testosterone ability to object to a phony war.

As first lady, Alpha Hillary’s abrasive and secretive management of health care doomed it. She voted to enable W. on Iraq so she could run as someone tough enough to command armies.

Given her brazen quote to ABC News, Obama is right to be scared of Hillary. He just needs to learn that Uncle Teddy can’t fight all his fights, and that a little chivalry goes a long way.

Great write up by usually comically off-track Ms. Dowd.

Angela, that woman of yours sure seems like she has the diplomatic touch to run our country well, and improve our image after what W. has done to it.

She's a bitch.

TheEschaton
01-31-2008, 10:06 AM
So a strong, fiercely motivated woman is a bitch, and a strong, fiercely motivated man is simply a man?

Edit: I find it equally comical that Dowd is calling Obama a pansy for being a sensitive man.

-TheE-

CrystalTears
01-31-2008, 10:15 AM
Yep. That's all she is... a fiercely motivated woman. She is so misunderstood.

Xaerve
01-31-2008, 10:42 AM
So a strong, fiercely motivated woman is a bitch, and a strong, fiercely motivated man is simply a man?

Edit: I find it equally comical that Dowd is calling Obama a pansy for being a sensitive man.

-TheE-

I'd argue that her husband is a "dick" for the stunts he's been pulling too. Don't take my comment out of context, I simply think that Obama is more of a stand-up person than Hillary, and this is one example.

I don't cite his actions, like Dowd, as something that should be viewed in a pejorative light.

I think you're a bitch if you're intentionally trying to insult the character and integrity of someone else based on false accusations and THEN decide to give him the cold shoulder, and THEN attempt to make it look like, again, he's done something wrong. Yes, thats pretty much a text-book definition of being a bitch. So there really isn't any reason to pull the PC-gender card in this situation, sorry.

Arkans
01-31-2008, 10:43 AM
Everything went to Hell in and handbasket when women gained sufferage rights :-( :-( :-(

- Arkans

BigWorm
01-31-2008, 10:56 AM
Everything went to Hell in and handbasket when women gained sufferage rights :-( :-( :-(

- Arkans

When did you come back?

radamanthys
01-31-2008, 10:57 AM
Welcome back, lol.

And seconded. http://youtube.com/watch?v=2GUJ4gojdxo

CrystalTears
01-31-2008, 10:57 AM
Everything went to Hell in and handbasket when women gained sufferage rights :-( :-( :-(

- Arkans
WTF, I missed Arkans' return. It's the apocalypse or something. Wezas going to spring out from nowhere too??

Parkbandit
01-31-2008, 10:58 AM
Everything went to Hell in and handbasket when women gained sufferage rights :-( :-( :-(

- Arkans

What's up dickface :P

Parkbandit
01-31-2008, 11:00 AM
Of course........ let me throw this out there.

SHM bumps up some old threads... prior to when Arkans was bannificated... and the next day, he returns?

It's not like anyone could just roll up Arkans as a name.. since it was deleted and the ban has since passed.

Just sayin.

Parkbandit
01-31-2008, 11:00 AM
Wezas going to spring out from nowhere too??

Only if his wife doesn't know about it :P

Arkans
01-31-2008, 11:03 AM
No, No, I assure you, I am Arkans's Player.

You know, (ex)heroin addicted player of Dark Elf Sorcerer of the same name. First name Luke. I mean, all that shit was public knowledge, so it proves nothing.

Regardless, I returned about all of... what? One or two hours ago? Who knows, but I missed you all.

- Arkans

PS: I actually just missed PB. He always made me giggle whenever he tickled my nipples. It's good to be back.

Parkbandit
01-31-2008, 11:07 AM
Prove it. You missed alot here... Backlash had a nervous breakdown and created tons of new accounts until he got banned.. then did it again.

Tell me about World of Warcraft...

Ilvane
01-31-2008, 11:09 AM
Oh Christ, this coming from Maureen Dowd?

Please, give me something halfway interesting to read, will you?

Angela

Latrinsorm
01-31-2008, 11:10 AM
So a strong, fiercely motivated woman is a bitch,As ridiculous as your conclusion would have been, Hilary isn't a strong woman so it doesn't even apply.

Arkans
01-31-2008, 11:13 AM
Christ, I love you people.

Let's see, Troll Shaman. I was in your guild from before it merged. I got to level 59 before I quit. You were a Tauren that lent me one gold for when I started. I believe my name was Arkans as the Troll.

Um, I quested with (my former Nazi Lieutenant) Neininque's player since we were around the same level, who was also a troll, along with others.

I never picked up any crafting skills in WoW (for what reason, I'm not sure, but I'm sure you don't remember that).

Played on a PvP server that I forget the name of, but as was the usual, we were always out numbered by the Alliance.

I think for a while you had an Undead Rogue ( think rogue) character that quested with my Troll Shaman for a bit.

There are probably more details if I think about it reeeeaaallly hard.

- Arkans

Parkbandit
01-31-2008, 11:24 AM
I never picked up any skills in WoW

You've convinced me with this line. Worst shaman ever.

Welcome back man :)

Clove
01-31-2008, 11:24 AM
When did you come back?

When did women get suffrage?!

Latrinsorm
01-31-2008, 11:32 AM
Suffrage, ffs.

Arkans
01-31-2008, 11:33 AM
lmao

Good to be back.

As for the sufferage thing.. I dunno, that shit just snuck up on me. Next thing you know people are going to try to integrate this country. Be on the look out!

Hulkein
01-31-2008, 09:08 PM
Hey Arkans.

You quested with the best hunter on the server named Grolock, too.

Sean of the Thread
02-01-2008, 02:46 AM
Everything went to Hell in and handbasket when women gained sufferage rights :-( :-( :-(

- Arkans

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b236/Japgross/akgirl.jpg

Sean of the Thread
02-01-2008, 03:16 AM
Of course........ let me throw this out there.

SHM bumps up some old threads... prior to when Arkans was bannificated... and the next day, he returns?

It's not like anyone could just roll up Arkans as a name.. since it was deleted and the ban has since passed.

Just sayin.

I don't think Arkans was bannificated. He got all emo bitchy and packed his manbag and headed out in a tussy riding a white horse into the sunset with a corona splashed with grenadine in the other hand.

I think he spared us the "I quit the boards" post however and just had his mommy (harmnone) delete his account on his request.

At which point :rofl: she came into the chat room and threatened me with bannination for a prank on Luke that was completely outside of the boards causing said Luke tussy.

Anyways welcome back Luke. Let's get the hilarity going again.

Keller
02-01-2008, 05:48 AM
Arkans ftw. Welcome back!

Arkans
02-01-2008, 07:52 AM
Hah, who can forget Grolock. Orc Hunter, right?

Regardless... Yeah, I never got banned. I had a painful pussy or something, but whatever.

So, I'm back. I hijacked this thread and I'm sure some more rather politically incorrect shit will be spewn, but with that clever bit of wisdom in it (if you're intoxicated at least), so let the games begin.

Parkbandit
02-01-2008, 07:55 AM
LOL nice avatar.

I'm glad you are back... now, how do I convince you to come back to WoW?

Parkbandit
02-01-2008, 07:56 AM
I don't think Arkans was bannificated. He got all emo bitchy and packed his manbag and headed out in a tussy riding a white horse into the sunset with a corona splashed with grenadine in the other hand.

I think he spared us the "I quit the boards" post however and just had his mommy (harmnone) delete his account on his request.

At which point :rofl: she came into the chat room and threatened me with bannination for a prank on Luke that was completely outside of the boards causing said Luke tussy.

Anyways welcome back Luke. Let's get the hilarity going again.

How I miss Harmnone........ :rofl: I loved how she thought she should be the moderator of the entire Internetzwebz.

So tell us about this prank!

Arkans
02-01-2008, 07:59 AM
Lots of methamphetamine....

No, but seriously, I need internet first. I'm leeching off my work right now and moving in my new apartment come the 15th. From there, I set my internet up (however long it takes my local company to do that) and then the sky is the limit.