Delegate counts

[Tsa`ah]

Can anyone explain why six major news outlets can't agree on how many delegates each candidate has?

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Conspiracy.

[Gan]

Its Bush's fault.

[Warriorbird]

I blame the atheists and the War on Christmas.

[Daniel]

I blame white people.

[Gan]

LOL

Its a tagline parade for PC'ers.

[Clove]

Illegal Aliens

[Warriorbird]

Liberals!

[Sean]

ParkBandit

[CrystalTears]

Google

[Gan]

Cubans!

[CrystalTears]

Texans

[Sean]

Texans

[Celephais]

God damn mogorians

[Clove]

Illegal Aliens... er, I mean Texans.

[Hulkein]

Klaive.

[Anebriated]

I blame PSInet.

[CrystalTears]

Simpsons did it!

[Gan]

Texans

LOL

Touche

I knew that was your next response. ;)

:love:

[Gan]

Did we fuck this thread up or what?

:lol:

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I had nothing to do with it.

[Clove]

Did we fuck this thread up or what?

:lol:

Yeah. Fucking CT was trolling again.

[Gan]

I had nothing to do with it.

source plz.

[Davenshire]

UK-Jedi

[Parkbandit]

I blame myself.. since I am all about self responsibility.

To answer your question though TheE, the delegates aren't actually set in stone until the convention. They are SUPPOSED to vote that way, but don't have to.

[CrystalTears]

To answer your question though TheE, the delegates aren't actually set in stone until the convention. They are SUPPOSED to vote that way, but don't have to.
Take your meds. Tsa`ah asked, not TheE.

And way to ruin the vibe of the thread!

[Gan]

(they all look(sound) alike)

[Bhuryn]

smells like brownies in here.

[Keller]

Word Association Thread, version 2.0

[ClydeR]

The delegate count after the South Carolina primary from a FoxNews article (http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Jan27/0,4670,SouthCarolinaDelegates,00.html).


In the overall race for the nomination, Clinton has 249 delegates, followed by Obama with 167 delegates and Edwards with 58.

A total of 2,025 delegates are needed to secure the Democratic nomination.


Overall, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney leads the race for GOP delegates with 59, followed by former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee with 40, and McCain with 36.

A total of 1,191 delegates are needed to secure the Republican nomination.

Super Tuesday on Feb 5 (http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-01-24-delegate-math_N.htm) probably will not decide the Republican candidate and certainly will not decide the Democrat candidate.

[oldanforgotten]

Can anyone explain why six major news outlets can't agree on how many delegates each candidate has?

Simple. Because in the democratic race, every state has an allotment of superdelegates that are not bound at all to the voters of their own state. As such, each candidate has won a fixed number of delegates in the states they have run in, however many of the superdelegates remain uncommitted, and every news source has different ways of estimating how they will fall, different inside sources as to who is supporting whom, and different ways of reporting it. Some superdelegates have announced their affiliation, some have not. Clinton has a huge majority of these superdelegates, as she is the person of choice of the party and its power lobbyists.

In terms of delegates actually earned, Obama has a 20 or so delegate lead.
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[Latrinsorm]

How hilarious would it be if the Democratic party ended up nominating someone who didn't win the majority of popularly selected delegates?

[Parkbandit]

How hilarious would it be if the Democratic party ended up nominating someone who didn't win the majority of popularly selected delegates?

Only Bush could pull that off...

[Tsa`ah]

The delegate count after the South Carolina primary from a FoxNews article (http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Jan27/0,4670,SouthCarolinaDelegates,00.html).

Is your inability to comprehend some sort of crusade on your part? Did you not understand the question?


Simple. Because in the democratic race, every state has an allotment of superdelegates that are not bound at all to the voters of their own state. As such, each candidate has won a fixed number of delegates in the states they have run in, however many of the superdelegates remain uncommitted, and every news source has different ways of estimating how they will fall, different inside sources as to who is supporting whom, and different ways of reporting it. Some superdelegates have announced their affiliation, some have not. Clinton has a huge majority of these superdelegates, as she is the person of choice of the party and its power lobbyists.

In terms of delegates actually earned, Obama has a 20 or so delegate lead.

This much I understand ... so you're guessing that the individual news outlets are simply speculating on super delegates and throwing those into the delegate tally? Or are you implying that they're mathematically challenged?


How hilarious would it be if the Democratic party ended up nominating someone who didn't win the majority of popularly selected delegates?


Only Bush could pull that off...

Actually ... it wouldn't be the first time any party has went with a candidate or an election was won despite the ballot count.

[oldanforgotten]

[QUOTE=Tsa`ah;676376]
This much I understand ... so you're guessing that the individual news outlets are simply speculating on super delegates and throwing those into the delegate tally? Or are you implying that they're mathematically challenged?
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Some of the superdelegates have announced who they are supporting. Other situations have a single superdelegate in a state who has made an announcement, and news organizations, based on their own individual sources, have made guestimations on others following suit. Sometimes, its outright guesswork with some people, but for example, a few of the NY supers have announced for Hilary, and some news organizations have assumed the others will follow suit, while others have reserved on the names that have not made any formal declaration.

The real comedy will occur if Edwards instructs his delegates to vote for Obama, which may be in the process of happening, or throws his support to Obama, which is another possibility (the only clear thing here is that he seems to not like Hilary)
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[Atlanteax]

The real comedy will occur if Edwards instructs his delegates to vote for Obama, which may be in the process of happening, or throws his support to Obama, which is another possibility (the only clear thing here is that he seems to not like Hilary)

I fully expect Edwards to leverage this into another VP slot (with Obama). No clue who Hillary's VP would be.