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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The award of the Nobel Peace Prize to Democrat Al Gore on Friday increases pressure on him to launch a late bid for the U.S. presidency, but advisers say he is showing no signs of interest in the 2008 race.
Gore, the former vice president who lost a Florida vote recount battle in the 2000 election to George W. Bush, has attracted growing support in recent days from thousands of Democratic activists who want him to enter the race.
An organization called draftgore.com is one of several trying to persuade Gore to run. The group ran a full-page ad in The New York Times on Wednesday described as "an open letter to Al Gore."
"Many good and caring candidates are contending for the Democratic nomination," the ad said. "But none of them has the combination of experience, vision, standing in the world, and political courage that you would bring to the job."
The attention represents how far Gore has taken his quest to call global attention to concerns about climate change with the movie that won him an Oscar, "An Inconvenient Truth."
San Francisco-based Current TV, Gore's television network, won an Emmy award last month for outstanding achievement in interactive television service.
After losing the Supreme Court case that cost him the White House, Gore from all accounts had a difficult time getting over the closest presidential election in U.S. history. He escaped to Europe for a time, and, puzzlingly, grew a beard.
Once considered a wooden speaker, he now is a pop culture icon, and happily engaged in a life that includes many speaking engagements about climate change, positions on corporate boards and much travel.
More here: http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN1243752120071012
He joins other luminaries like Jimmy Carter, Kofi Annan, Yassar Arafat, and Woodrow Wilson. What a joke.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b322/Desleader/manbearpig.jpg
I really do hope he runs for President. Hillary would pop a cork.
Krendeli
10-12-2007, 07:37 AM
More here: http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN1243752120071012
He joins other luminaries like Jimmy Carter, Kofi Annan, Yassar Arafat, and Woodrow Wilson. What a joke.
You're a fucking moron. He, by all means, earned it.
You're a fucking moron. He, by all means, earned it.
Yes, he did $$$$ earn it.
CrystalTears
10-12-2007, 08:18 AM
The Nobel Peace Prize is like the Oscars of the political world. :D
Clove
10-12-2007, 08:45 AM
I really do hope he runs for President. Hillary would pop a cork.
So that's what she does to entertain Billy....
TheEschaton
10-12-2007, 09:30 AM
Who would you have given it to, Drew? Dubya? Ha.
Krendeli
10-12-2007, 09:40 AM
Who would you have given it to, Drew? Dubya? Ha.
Of course! He created peace in Iraq. <roll eyes>
Clove
10-12-2007, 09:44 AM
Who would you have given it to, Drew? Dubya? Ha.
Shih Ming Teh "Taiwan's Mandela". FFS E, it's not hard to find people more deserving of a Nobel Peace prize than Gore.
Warriorbird
10-12-2007, 10:16 AM
Butthurt Republican time!
Suppa Hobbit Mage
10-12-2007, 10:18 AM
I hope he runs for pres, will dilute the votes for Hillary.
Parkbandit
10-12-2007, 10:33 AM
You're a fucking moron. He, by all means, earned it.
How again did he earn the PEACE prize by creating a global crisis?
It amazes me that he was even nominated for the PEACE prize. I guess he was unable to compete for one of the science ones due to lack of evidence.
It's a joke.
Good for him.
I still haven't watched the documentary.
Parkbandit
10-12-2007, 10:35 AM
Butthurt Republican time!
Defense shield liberal time!
(and by defense shield.. don't worry.. I'm not talking military action... you can come out from under the bed.)
Jesuit
10-12-2007, 10:49 AM
Of course! He created peace in Iraq. <roll eyes>
And Arafat created peace in Israel and Palestine.
Sean of the Thread
10-12-2007, 11:05 AM
Butthurt Republican time!
Otherwise known as ALERT LEVEL DREW2!
Aiieeeeeeeeee.
Warriorbird
10-12-2007, 11:11 AM
Danger danger!
http://www.foxnews.com/images/298776/3_62_gore_III_al.jpg
He's laughing at you.
Skeeter
10-12-2007, 11:14 AM
I wonder how much I would have to pay to get a nobel prize? :thinking:
Celephais
10-12-2007, 11:24 AM
I wonder how much I would have to pay to get a nobel prize? :thinking:
Meerly answering this question would win you a nobel prize in economics. (I wonder if I could get a nobel prize in economics if it were MMO based economics...)
Krendeli
10-12-2007, 11:36 AM
How again did he earn the PEACE prize by creating a global crisis?
It amazes me that he was even nominated for the PEACE prize. I guess he was unable to compete for one of the science ones due to lack of evidence.
It's a joke.
Taken from news articale about the Nobel prize:
In recent years, the committee has broadened the interpretation of peacemaking and disarmament efforts outlined by Swedish industrialist Alfred Nobel in creating the prize with his 1895 will. The prize now often also recognizes human rights, democracy, elimination of poverty, sharing resources and the environment.
DO a little research about something before you go spouting off.
Parkbandit
10-12-2007, 11:48 AM
DO a little research about something before you go spouting off.
I would ask you to do the same thing in regards to global warming.. but I enjoy taking financial advantage over ignorant people like yourself.. so
VIVA LA GLOBAL WARMING!!
Seriously.. if this keeps it in the news for me to better my company position.. I say give it to Gore next year too! I WANT him to run for President... hell, I almost want him to win! Can you imagine the landfall I would receive for my continued efforts in the Tampabay Area! I TOO COULD WIN THE PEACE PRIZE!!!
Krendeli
10-12-2007, 12:39 PM
You're an ignorant fuck.
Sean of the Thread
10-12-2007, 12:56 PM
Can you imagine the landfall I would receive for my continued efforts in the Tampabay Area! I TOO COULD WIN THE PEACE PRIZE!!!
I've already got a head start on the award... with all my work on the women in wheelchairs npo I started. People must be taking notice!
Hell I've already had a few attorneys knocking on the door already! Something about a coveted "Paternity" award wtf ever that is. I'm sure it will look great on my resume tho!
Krendeli
10-12-2007, 01:04 PM
I've already got a head start on the award... with all my work on the women in wheelchairs npo I started. People must be taking notice!
Hell I've already had a few attorneys knocking on the door already! Something about a coveted "Paternity" award wtf ever that is. I'm sure it will look great on my resume tho!
I'm sure the NBA will be knocking right on your door.
Hulkein
10-12-2007, 03:27 PM
Taken from news articale about the Nobel prize:
In recent years, the committee has broadened the interpretation of peacemaking and disarmament efforts outlined by Swedish industrialist Alfred Nobel in creating the prize with his 1895 will. The prize now often also recognizes human rights, democracy, elimination of poverty, sharing resources and the environment.
DO a little research about something before you go spouting off.
That's a pretty dumb alteration to the prize.
Congrats to Gore, he can have lunch with Kofi Annan and talk about their shared award and how to raise respectable children.
Seran
10-12-2007, 08:37 PM
How again did he earn the PEACE prize by creating a global crisis?
Never seen anyone blame a single individual for creating global warming, that's a new one.
Never seen anyone blame a single individual for creating global warming, that's a new one.
I think it's fair to say those were publicized the global cooling "crisis" of the 70's created that. Ten years from now when this is just a laughable memory won't Al Gore be one of the main creators of the global warming "crisis"?
875000
10-12-2007, 09:13 PM
>>Ten years from now when this is just a laughable memory won't Al Gore be one of the main creators of the global warming "crisis"?<<
No -- his claim to fame will still be the man who invented the internet.
TheEschaton
10-12-2007, 11:56 PM
He never said he invented the internet. He said as a congressman, he promoted the environment in which the internet could prosper, including key technology legislation.
Fun times, conservative douche bags, fun times. For those quaint 2000 days when making shit up was just kind of funny and retarded as opposed to a horrifying inability to fight fairly in a campaign.
875000
10-13-2007, 02:02 AM
>>He never said he invented the internet. He said as a congressman, he promoted the environment in which the internet could prosper, including key technology legislation.<<
Well then. Looks like you got me there. It's not like we can refer to a transcript of what he said or anything to show ... oh, wait. What's this?
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/03/09/president.2000/transcript.gore/
"BLITZER: I want to get to some of the substance of domestic and international issues in a minute, but let's just wrap up a little bit of the politics right now.
Why should Democrats, looking at the Democratic nomination process, support you instead of Bill Bradley, a friend of yours, a former colleague in the Senate? What do you have to bring to this that he doesn't necessarily bring to this process?
GORE: Well, I will be offering -- I'll be offering my vision when my campaign begins. And it will be comprehensive and sweeping. And I hope that it will be compelling enough to draw people toward it. I feel that it will be.
But it will emerge from my dialogue with the American people. I've traveled to every part of this country during the last six years. During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system."
Yes, that right. He said "I took the initiative in creating the Internet." Then he started talking about OTHER legislative areas, like environmental protection, and education, all of which is very different from your claim that he said "he promoted the environment in which the internet could prosper, including key technology legislation." Interestingly enough, "technology legislation" was never mentioned.
This bit of reality brought to you by the internet ... which Al Gore did not create or invent.
This bit of reality brought to you by the internet ... which Al Gore did not create or invent.
Haha well done. They say it takes a village to raise a child; it takes a message board to call The E on all the BS he spouts.
Stanley Burrell
10-13-2007, 02:24 AM
I detest the fact that there is no Nobel Prize for biology and that every single specific incidence where a researcher should have been recognized in the field of biology is instead subsidized into either a medical or chemistry Nobel Prize.
Stockholm just pisses me off. People with Stockholm syndrome also piss me off, but for separate reasons.
Alfred Nobel is rolling over in his grave right now for various purposes, I'm not even kidding. Bah.
Warriorbird
10-13-2007, 02:32 AM
Yeah you are. Alfred Nobel made the prize to make up for being his generation's 'Lord of War.'
Keller
10-13-2007, 03:29 AM
>>He never said he invented the internet. He said as a congressman, he promoted the environment in which the internet could prosper, including key technology legislation.<<
Well then. Looks like you got me there. It's not like we can refer to a transcript of what he said or anything to show ... oh, wait. What's this?
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/03/09/president.2000/transcript.gore/
"BLITZER: I want to get to some of the substance of domestic and international issues in a minute, but let's just wrap up a little bit of the politics right now.
Why should Democrats, looking at the Democratic nomination process, support you instead of Bill Bradley, a friend of yours, a former colleague in the Senate? What do you have to bring to this that he doesn't necessarily bring to this process?
GORE: Well, I will be offering -- I'll be offering my vision when my campaign begins. And it will be comprehensive and sweeping. And I hope that it will be compelling enough to draw people toward it. I feel that it will be.
But it will emerge from my dialogue with the American people. I've traveled to every part of this country during the last six years. During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system."
Yes, that right. He said "I took the initiative in creating the Internet." Then he started talking about OTHER legislative areas, like environmental protection, and education, all of which is very different from your claim that he said "he promoted the environment in which the internet could prosper, including key technology legislation." Interestingly enough, "technology legislation" was never mentioned.
This bit of reality brought to you by the internet ... which Al Gore did not create or invent.
Between (1) "Al Gore invented the internet." and (2) "Al Gore promoted the environment in which the internet could prosper, including key technology legislation," I would have to say that (2) is a much more accurate interpretation of what he actually said.
Kembal
10-13-2007, 11:17 AM
I agree with Keller. "Initiative to create" something while "in the U.S. Congress" would generally mean funding and promotion of legislation, not invention.
As for the Nobel Prize, kudos to Gore. I've believed that the current trend of global warming has been aided by man for a while, but there's no doubting that Gore's documentary brought the issue to the forefront.
As for him running for President now that he's won the Nobel Prize, he's not. Besides the fact that once you win the Nobel Peace Prize, it generally means your career is over in American politics (see Roosevelt, Teddy for the most direct example), I doubt any American would see the Nobel and say "oh, I'll vote for him now!" that wouldn't already be inclined to do so if he ran. It makes no difference in political calculation.
Kranar
10-13-2007, 11:28 AM
Between (1) "Al Gore invented the internet." and (2) "Al Gore promoted the environment in which the internet could prosper, including key technology legislation," I would have to say that (2) is a much more accurate interpretation of what he actually said.
You're not alone in this either. The people who are widely acknowledged as the founders of the Internet wrote in defense of Al Gore's statement:
http://amsterdam.nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-l-0009/msg00311.html
You gotta love it when people who know nothing about the history of the Internet think that by reading one sentence in a brief interview on CNN that they're now qualified experts able to judge someone elses contribution.
Dave and Declan,
I am taking the liberty of sending to you both a brief summary of Al
Gore's Internet involvement, prepared by Bob Kahn and me. As you know,
there have been a seemingly unending series of jokes chiding the vice
president for his assertion that he "took the initiative in creating the
Internet."
Bob and I believe that the vice president deserves significant credit for
his early recognition of the importance of what has become the Internet.
I thought you might find this short summary of sufficient interest to
share it with Politech and the IP lists, respectively.
...
Last year the Vice President made a straightforward statement on his role.
He said: "During my service in the United States Congress I took the
initiative in creating the Internet." We don't think, as some people have
argued, that Gore intended to claim he "invented" the Internet. Moreover,
there is no question in our minds that while serving as Senator, Gore's
initiatives had a significant and beneficial effect on the still-evolving
Internet. The fact of the matter is that Gore was talking about and
promoting the Internet long before most people were listening. We feel it
is timely to offer our perspective.
TheEschaton
10-13-2007, 12:14 PM
Like Keller and others have already said, "taking the initiative to create the Internet" isn't an attempt to take credit for writing the protocols or anything, but again, credit for the legislation which allowed for the infrastructure of the world wide web, which is commonly referred to now as "the Internet". Conservatives love to misconstrue it though, as if he claimed to have written the Internet himself.
-TheE-
Man, you people are really defensive about that. I don't think that people really think Al Gore thought he invented the internet, but just like Dubya, when you mess up that big you get made fun off. Lighten up.
Mighty Nikkisaurus
10-13-2007, 02:11 PM
Man, you people are really defensive about that. I don't think that people really think Al Gore thought he invented the internet, but just like Dubya, when you mess up that big you get made fun off. Lighten up.
No, we don't need to misinterpret Dubya's words to make them/him sound retarded.
Where as Al Gore said something that was easily misconstrued, Dubya would have actually said "I invented the internet" and mispronounced something along the way.
Tsa`ah
10-13-2007, 03:04 PM
I'm surprised anyone could lump Carter, Annan, Arafat, and Wilson into the same group.
I could see arguments against Arafat ... but I don't think there are very many in this word who have done as much for peace, or championed the cause, as anyone else listed.
A nobel prize does give Gore "prestigious clout" ... it doesn't do much more.
Honestly, I find most of these arguments against the decision lacking merit, substance ... and I dare say intelligence. They're nothing more than "I don't like Gore ... so he bought a prize" or other similar bullshit.
How about present valid arguments as to why he shouldn't have won it.
Hulkein
10-13-2007, 05:13 PM
You're not alone in this either. The people who are widely acknowledged as the founders of the Internet wrote in defense of Al Gore's statement:
http://amsterdam.nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-l-0009/msg00311.html
You gotta love it when people who know nothing about the history of the Internet think that by reading one sentence in a brief interview on CNN that they're now qualified experts able to judge someone elses contribution.
It's a joke buddy.
Keller
10-13-2007, 05:47 PM
Man, you people are really defensive about that. I don't think that people really think Al Gore thought he invented the internet, but just like Dubya, when you mess up that big you get made fun off. Lighten up.
Retreat!
Keller
10-13-2007, 05:48 PM
It's a joke buddy.
I said, "RETREAT!!!"
There was a time when the Nobel peace prize did mean something. Its sad the current people in charge of it have let it fallen to nothing but a political tool.
TheEschaton
10-13-2007, 09:16 PM
Was it just a political tool when MLK got it in light of the fact that the majority of Americans disagreed with him?
-TheE-
Warriorbird
10-13-2007, 09:18 PM
There was a time when the Nobel peace prize did mean something. Its sad the current people in charge of it have let it fallen to nothing but a political tool.
-Dave
Sounds sort of like the Supreme Court.
Kembal
10-13-2007, 09:38 PM
There was a time when the Nobel peace prize did mean something. Its sad the current people in charge of it have let it fallen to nothing but a political tool.
Yep, those Norwegians, obviously trying to affect American politics. No other motivation at all.
Parkbandit
10-13-2007, 11:24 PM
Sounds sort of like the Supreme Court.
Damn.. you are sounding as retarded as Backlash.. I mean Chillmonster.
Still crying about 2000?
:cry:
Warriorbird
10-14-2007, 12:41 AM
Uh, way to attribute seriousness to a non serious response.
This is the Republican whining topic. Get back to it.
Retreat!
Not really, the hypocrisy is just hilarious. If George W. makes a mistake it's "DUBYA IS STUPID!". If Al Gore makes a mistake it's "He phrased it poorly!" You don't see how obvious this is?
Davenshire
10-14-2007, 04:43 AM
Not really, the hypocrisy is just hilarious. If George W. makes a mistake it's "DUBYA IS STUPID!". If Al Gore makes a mistake it's "He phrased it poorly!" You don't see how obvious this is?
a as in one?
It's commical that he misspoke and everyone tries to make it out as if he is toting he invented the internet, for all time, beating a pony. Now if he... you know... coudn't talk to save his life, jacks it up all the time, then he'd be geor... erm stupid.
And yes the Nobel Prize seems to be getting watered down. :(
Warriorbird
10-14-2007, 04:49 AM
Perhaps it is due to so many people not giving a damn about peace.
Ilvane
10-14-2007, 08:14 AM
What Gore has done is really great, to actually call attention to an issue that should be known about, which has an effect on all of us, in the end.
Yes, even Republicans.:P
Angela
Jesuit
10-14-2007, 09:36 AM
What Gore has done is really great, to actually call attention to an issue that should be known about, which has an effect on all of us, in the end.
Yes, even Republicans.:P
Angela
Ok now that we've called attention to the issue, what do you plan we all do about it?
Mighty Nikkisaurus
10-14-2007, 09:43 AM
Not really, the hypocrisy is just hilarious. If George W. makes a mistake it's "DUBYA IS STUPID!". If Al Gore makes a mistake it's "He phrased it poorly!" You don't see how obvious this is?
A few times he mis-speaks, fine. But Bush says shit ALL the time that makes him sound doubly-retarded. There have been Republican presidents that were excellent public speakers- Bush is not one of them. Republicans like to make a HUGE deal about this "I invented the internet" business when the President that most of them support (Bush) has made statements that were far more heinous than that.
You want to throw stones but you live in a glass house- fine if you want to make fun of Al Gore messing up a single phrase but given the verbal diahhrea that Dubya suffers from pretty much anytime he has a mic to his face, you really should expect that people are going to point out that Bush has said shit that is much, much worse.
Jesuit
10-14-2007, 09:48 AM
Perhaps it is due to so many people not giving a damn about peace.
I think you're right about this, I think people all over the world don't care about what happens as long as it doesn't happen to them.
Solkern
10-14-2007, 09:53 AM
I think you're right about this, I think people all over the world don't care about what happens as long as it doesn't happen to them.
Most people don't give a damn about shit, as long as it doesn't effect them.
TheEschaton
10-14-2007, 10:49 AM
We're not defensive when Gore makes a mistake speaking. The difference is, he didn't make a mistake when he stated he was a part of the initiative to create the internet.
Bobmuhthol
10-14-2007, 10:56 AM
How again did he earn the PEACE prize by creating a global crisis?
It amazes me that he was even nominated for the PEACE prize. I guess he was unable to compete for one of the science ones due to lack of evidence.
It's a joke.
You do know Alfred Nobel was responsible for millions of deaths, including that of his own brother, right?
Sean of the Thread
10-14-2007, 11:56 AM
You do know Alfred Nobel was responsible for millions of deaths, including that of his own brother, right?
And responsible for saving millions of lives.
We're not defensive when Gore makes a mistake speaking. The difference is, he didn't make a mistake when he stated he was a part of the initiative to create the internet.
No, he said he took the initiative to create the internet. Not that he was part of it.
Was it just a political tool when MLK got it in light of the fact that the majority of Americans disagreed with him?
-TheE-
No MLK did something for the betterment of mankind.
Hulkein
10-14-2007, 07:58 PM
I said, "RETREAT!!!"
It is a joke. Even the game Civilization makes fun of him for it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/dawkins/algore.jpg
They use his face to represent the Internet. Pretty funny.
Bobmuhthol
10-14-2007, 08:19 PM
<<And responsible for saving millions of lives.>>
No?
Sean of the Thread
10-14-2007, 09:15 PM
<<And responsible for saving millions of lives.>>
No?
Uh yes?
Most of the time I think highly of you and all but maybe save some of the retard comments until after college. Then at the very least you can blame it on the stupid ass liberal professors.
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