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Sean of the Thread
10-26-2007, 02:22 PM
Just saying that shouldn't really be used as a measuring stick.
RichardCranium
10-26-2007, 02:23 PM
I agree, that's why I put a disclaimer in there. But I still don't think that BC will win all four of those games.
Skeeter
10-26-2007, 02:45 PM
I would say all of OSU's remaining opponents will make bowl games as well. Also agree it's not a measuring stick.
I'm also terrified by this game this weekend. I'm contemplating starting drinking now just in case.
RichardCranium
10-26-2007, 03:37 PM
I would say all of OSU's remaining opponents will make bowl games as well. Also agree it's not a measuring stick.
I'm also terrified by this game this weekend. I'm contemplating starting drinking now just in case.
That's always an option, regardless of circumstance.
Solkern
10-26-2007, 04:13 PM
No offense but BC is probably the most overrated team in recent memory. It will work it's self out before it's all said and done however.
Last nights game was a joke. Shameful for a Thursday night prime time game. :(
Umm i'd say OSU last year, was pretty overrated.
Who are your actual teams solkern? You seem to shit on everyone elses teams (both pro and college) without declaring who you actually follow.
TheEschaton
10-26-2007, 04:16 PM
I think BC can win out. FSU'll be tough, and I think Miami'll have imploded by the time we play them in the last game of the season.
-TheE-
Skeeter
10-26-2007, 07:24 PM
Umm i'd say OSU last year, was pretty overrated.
I'd say they weren't. I would say that picking the national championship game to shit the bed was bad timing.
Solkern
10-26-2007, 07:32 PM
Ravens, and pats fan
Longhorns and BC fan
RichardCranium
10-26-2007, 07:35 PM
I'd say they weren't. I would say that picking the national championship game to shit the bed was bad timing.
I'll agree with that. As much as I love to needle OSU fans the Buckeyes played and won against top competition last year.
Until they played an SEC team.
Sean of the Thread
10-26-2007, 08:49 PM
Ravens, and pats fan
Longhorns and BC fan
Uh interesting mix.
Solkern
10-26-2007, 10:13 PM
Uh interesting mix.
:P
Sean of the Thread
10-26-2007, 10:16 PM
You're a football tard.
Latrinsorm
10-26-2007, 11:56 PM
It's just like one of those AT&T commercials, Solkern is from Baltimotexaston.
Sean of the Thread
10-27-2007, 12:01 AM
rofl eric made a funny!
Solkern
10-27-2007, 01:17 AM
lol
Nah I grew up in maryland, fav team has always been the longhorns, always loved boston teams, hate the celtcs though hehe
Kinda odd, I have colorado plates on my car, and the world series is colorado vs boston heh
Apathy
10-27-2007, 02:23 AM
lol
Nah I grew up in maryland, fav team has always been the longhorns, always loved boston teams, hate the celtcs though hehe
Kinda odd, I have colorado plates on my car, and the world series is colorado vs boston heh
Oh that explains it.... nope no it doesn't.
Sean of the Thread
10-27-2007, 12:41 PM
I'm really starting to lean on PSU today... JOE PA is one crazy mother fucker.
Sean of the Thread
10-27-2007, 04:36 PM
Here we go ROCKET FIRE SATURDAY !!! Let us all be pumped up and merry.
Date placed:
Oct 27, 2007 11:56a
Date settled:
Oct 27, 2007 3:26p
Single # XXXX
Football - College Lines (Game) Pointspread
(183) West Virginia -6 (-120) Sat@12:00p
(Bought 0.5 points)
Final Scores
West Virginia 31
Rutgers 3
Outcome:Win
Date placed:
Oct 27, 2007 11:56a
Date settled:
Oct 27, 2007 3:18p
Single # xx
Football - College Lines (Game) Pointspread
(115) Pittsburgh +10 Sat@12:00p
Final Scores
Pittsburgh 17
Louisville 24
Outcome:Win
Augie
10-27-2007, 04:57 PM
FL/GA weekend sucks.
That is all.
- Christina (She who is extremely frazzled by these in-fucking-sane fans at her hotels in Jacksonville)
Sean of the Thread
10-27-2007, 07:04 PM
FFS FLORIDA get IT TOGETHER.
TheEschaton
10-27-2007, 07:13 PM
Seriously, though, how is UConn at the top of the Big East standings?
Sean of the Thread
10-27-2007, 07:14 PM
Uhm.. if you can't figure that out I'm not going to bother explaining it.
*also do us all a favor and stfu in any further discussion about NCAA football since you're clearly clueless after that comment.
K thx
bai
Sean of the Thread
10-27-2007, 07:19 PM
FFS another nice call resulting in a turnover.
TheEschaton
10-27-2007, 07:56 PM
Too bad Grothe couldn't pull off a Matt Ryan.
Anebriated
10-27-2007, 08:02 PM
Here we go ROCKET FIRE SATURDAY !!! Let us all be pumped up and merry.
Date placed:
Oct 27, 2007 11:56a
Date settled:
Oct 27, 2007 3:26p
Single # XXXX
Football - College Lines (Game) Pointspread
(183) West Virginia -6 (-120) Sat@12:00p
(Bought 0.5 points)
Final Scores
West Virginia 31
Rutgers 3
Outcome:Win
Date placed:
Oct 27, 2007 11:56a
Date settled:
Oct 27, 2007 3:18p
Single # xx
Football - College Lines (Game) Pointspread
(115) Pittsburgh +10 Sat@12:00p
Final Scores
Pittsburgh 17
Louisville 24
Outcome:Win
Yeah I played both of those as well. Was a good afternoon topped off by some NHL action...
Parlay (2 Teams) 10/27/07 12:50 ET
Result: Wager Won
Flyers(Philadelphia) 2
Bruins(Boston) 1
Under 5.5 (-105)
Flyers(Philadelphia) 2
Bruins(Boston) 1
Flyers(Philadelphia) -110
Now I just need the rockies to pull out a win and OSU to win by more than 3...
Sean of the Thread
10-27-2007, 08:02 PM
Should be proud about that performance Alok. Seriously one of the worse in weekday primetime history.
Whoever whispered Heisman and Ryan in the same sentence will never admit at this point.
Not that it matters USF > BC GROTHE > RYAN
RichardCranium
10-27-2007, 08:23 PM
Uhm.. if you can't figure that out I'm not going to bother explaining it.
*also do us all a favor and stfu in any further discussion about NCAA football since you're clearly clueless after that comment.
K thx
bai
Whoa, whoa, whoa...did you just question TheE's fanhood?
Sean of the Thread
10-27-2007, 08:27 PM
No I questioned his football intelligence.
TheEschaton
10-27-2007, 08:28 PM
My football intelligence is immense, but of course, has its foundation in pro, and is expanding to college.
-TheE-
RichardCranium
10-27-2007, 08:28 PM
That was a reference to those stupid new commercials for ESPN's phone deal they have going now.
Sean of the Thread
10-27-2007, 08:48 PM
My football intelligence is immense, but of course, has its foundation in pro, and is expanding to college.
-TheE-
Nothing wrong with that!
Skeeter
10-27-2007, 10:32 PM
God I love saturdays.
Skeeter
10-28-2007, 01:36 AM
Buckeyes looked FANTASTIC
Sean of the Thread
10-28-2007, 02:55 AM
2-7-2
/wrist
Shari
10-28-2007, 04:21 AM
ASU and BC are in the same boat. Neither has played a team worth 8 shits.
OSU is in the same boat, but they may actually be decent.
So, what do you think now?
GO SUNDEVILS
Sean of the Thread
10-28-2007, 04:22 AM
It's funny you should ask. Several of us were discussing what we think of you whilst watching that game in chat.
I'll spare you the details.
Shari
10-28-2007, 04:29 AM
Thanks?
Because really, your opinion of me has always mattered so much.
Sean of the Thread
10-28-2007, 04:30 AM
Lol didn't say it mattered to you.
RichardCranium
10-28-2007, 09:36 AM
15 laterals to win the game. (http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/ivp/index?id=3083220)
stallion4
10-28-2007, 11:31 AM
Holy shit..that was ridiculous.
Sean of the Thread
10-28-2007, 12:01 PM
Lol my 5 year old daughter loves football and actually told me about that play this morning.
She watches sportscenter in her room.
Anebriated
10-28-2007, 12:30 PM
2-7-2
/wrist
Ouch, bad day with the bookies? I went 5-3 yesterday, was 1 run off of being 6-2 :(. Stupid bosox had to go and score 6 when I had the under 5 in the first 5.
Sean of the Thread
10-28-2007, 12:34 PM
My first losing week going into Sunday this year. Happens.
TheEschaton
10-28-2007, 12:45 PM
Wow, that other team doesn't know how to tackle.
Skeeter
10-28-2007, 12:53 PM
http://www.sltrib.com/collegesports/ci_7303564
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Weber State football: Wildcats earn record-setting win
The Associated Press
Article Last Updated: 10/28/2007 01:50:16 AM MDT
PORTLAND, Ore. - No, they weren't playing basketball.
Weber State beat Portland State 73-68 on Saturday night to set an NCAA all-division record for most points in a game.
The previous record for most points by two teams was 136, set in 1968 when North Park beat North Central 104-32 in a Division III game. The Division I record was 133, set in 2004 when San Jose State beat Rice 70-63.
Back in 1916, Georgia Tech beat Cumberland 222-0, but that was before the NCAA kept track of records.
Weber State's Cameron Higgins passed for 334 yards and four touchdowns. Trevyn Smith ran for 225 yards for the Wildcats (3-5, 3-3 Big Sky Conference).
In his first college start, freshman Drew Hubel threw nine touchdown passes for Portland State to set a school and conference record.
Weber State scored 35 points in the second quarter to take a 38-27 lead at halftime. By then, the Wildcats already had 443 yards in total offense - 10 yards more than their previous season high for a game.
Portland State (2-6, 2-3) made up for its shaky defense with a high-powered offense that started the second half with a pair of Hubel touchdown passes, first to David Lewis and then to Tremayne Kirkland. That put the Vikings in front 41-38.
Portland State, whose offensive coordinator is run-and-shoot guru Mouse Davis, had its last lead of the game when Hubel hit Lewis with an 8-yard scoring toss at 8:15 of the third quarter to make it 48-45.
The Wildcats took the lead for good on their next possession, which chewed up nearly six minutes and culminated with Higgins' 4-yard touchdown pass to Akamu Aki. That made it 52-48.
Weber State followed that with Bryant Eteuati's 77-yard punt return for a touchdown and Higgins' 4-yard scoring run, which pushed the Wildcats' advantage to 66-48 early in the fourth quarter.
The teams traded touchdowns after that, leaving Weber State in front 73-55 with 4:22 left.
Hubel threw his ninth TD pass and Andy Shantz returned a fumble 84 yards for a touchdown with 31 seconds left.
The Vikings failed to recover the onside kick and Weber State managed to run out the clock.
The Wildcats finished with 687 total yards while Portland State had 502.
Wildcats triumph as teams set record
* Highest scoring Division I game, both teams - New record: 141, Weber State 73, Portland State 68, Oct. 27, 2007. Previous record: 133, San Jose State 70, Rice 63, Oct. 2, 2004.
* Highest scoring Division I game by a losing team - New Record: 68, Portland State lost to Weber State (73), Oct. 27, 2007. Previous record: 63, Kentucky lost to Arkansas (71) in OT, Nov. 1, 2003.
Note: Georgia Tech beat Cumberland 222-0 on Oct. 7, 1916, before NCAA records in 1937.
Weber State 73,
Portland State 68
Weber St. 3 35 21 14-73
Portland St. 7 20 21 20-68
First Quarter
Web-FG Snoy 23, 4:01.
Port-Lewis 12 pass from Hubel (Urrego kick), 1:23.
Second Quarter
Web-Phillips 29 pass from C.Higgins (Snoy kick), 13:39.
Port-Kirkland 15 pass from Hubel (Urrego kick), 11:52.
Web-C.Higgins 2 run (Snoy kick), 11:04.
Web-M.Mailei 1 run (Snoy kick), 5:56.
Web-C.Higgins 34 run (Snoy kick), 5:10.
Port-Mackins 21 pass from Hubel (kick failed), 3:14.
Web-Bry.Eteuati 23 pass from C.Higgins (Snoy kick), :43.
Port-Kirkland 28 pass from Hubel (Urrego kick), :04.
Third Quarter
Port-Lewis 22 pass from Hubel (Urrego kick), 14:39.
Port-Kirkland 9 pass from Hubel (Urrego kick), 13:02.
Web-Phillips 4 pass from C.Higgins (Snoy kick), 11:30.
Port-Lewis 7 pass from Hubel (Urrego kick), 8:15.
Web-Aki 4 pass from C.Higgins (Snoy kick), 2:24.
Web-Bry.Eteuati 77 punt return (Snoy kick), :34.
Fourth Quarter
Web-C.Higgins 4 run (Snoy kick), 12:42.
Port-Lewis 15 pass from Hubel (Urrego kick), 9:26.
Web-Smith 2 run (Snoy kick), 4:22.
Port-Kirkland 8 pass from Hubel (Urrego kick), 2:55.
Port-Schantz 84 fumble return (pass failed), :31.
A-8,924.
Web Port
34 É First downs É 23
57-353 É Rushes-yards É 10-17
334 É Passing É 485
22-36-2 É Comp-Att-Int É 35-56-0
97 É Return Yards É 27
1-31.0 É Punts-Avg. É 6-44.3
1-1 É Fumbles-Lost É 1-0
10-95 É Penalties-Yards É 7-64
38:17 É Time of Possession É 21:43
INDIVIDUAL LEADERS
RUSHING-Weber St., Smith 38-225, C.Higgins 9-106, Lee 3-9, M.Mailei 5-8, Bry.Eteuati 1-5, Team 1-0. Portland St., Sobomehin 8-18, Hubel 2-(minus 1).
PASSING-Weber St., C.Higgins 22-36-2-334. Portland St., Hubel 35-56-0-485.
RECEIVING-Weber St., Toone 8-135, Phillips 8-131, Bry.Eteuati 2-28, Aki 2-24, M.Mailei 1-8, Nakamura 1-8. Portland St., Kirkland 13-177, Lewis 8-114, Sobomehin 6-91, Mackins 6-83, M.Smith 2-20.
Skeeter
10-28-2007, 12:53 PM
It was 7-3 after the 1st Qtr!
Interesting I was going to mention Georgia Tech (coached by John Heisman) v. Cumberland but they got it in the article.
Makkah
10-28-2007, 05:10 PM
So, what do you think now?
GO SUNDEVILS
Hey, no skin off my back. They played well in the end. Next week will be fantastic. 4 vs 5.
Note: Don't get all lovey on the Devils. Don't forget, you turned on them already once.
Sean of the Thread
10-28-2007, 08:24 PM
Hehehehhe made me laugh for some reason.
Skeeter
10-31-2007, 12:36 AM
God I'm going to love watching the dirtiest program in college since Alabama go down in flames. The NCAA could force USC to forfeit every game Bush ever played in. Since they don't award a national championship, we could have the first ever national champion to lose the title game.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3087571
Bush, family sued by sports marketer for nearly $300,000 in cash, gifts
Associated Press
SAN DIEGO -- A sports marketer has filed a lawsuit against former Southern California running back Reggie Bush and his parents that seeks to recoup nearly $300,000 in cash and gifts they allegedly accepted from him during Bush's sophomore and junior seasons.
The suit filed by Lloyd Lake on Tuesday in Superior Court claims Bush and his family received $291,600 in cash, living arrangements and other benefits between November 2004 and January 2006.
The suit comes nearly two years after allegations first surfaced and has prompted the NCAA and Pac-10 to launch their own investigation.
An e-mail message left for Bush's attorney, David Cornwell, was not immediately returned.
Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press
RichardCranium
11-01-2007, 01:38 PM
With the LSU Alabama game coming up I've been getting a lot of e-mails. Here's a couple of my favorites.
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k15/troydenh/AALABALMAAFOOTBALL.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k15/troydenh/nickgump-735657-756222.jpg
Skeeter
11-01-2007, 02:58 PM
I'm taking Aalabalmaa and the +7 Nick Satan has something prove.
Skeeter
11-01-2007, 04:02 PM
Is it too early to start talking about...
http://images.usatoday.com/sports/college/_photos/2006-11-15-forecast.jpg
I wonder if Bama is going to play Miami anytime soon. I'd love to see O'Saban BinLyin return to SoFla.
RichardCranium
11-03-2007, 08:04 PM
I have backed Les Miles since Day 1 but I swear to God I almost find myself hoping we lose and rooting for whoever is playing Michigan this week.
Hey Rhett, if Les leaves for Michigan you know we're getting 'Tubs right?
Skeeter
11-03-2007, 09:05 PM
LLLLLoyd Carr is gone after this season regardless.
27-17 Aalabalmaa as I type this.
What's up with Sean2's boys at USF. get to #2 then lose every game since then. He laughed at me when I called them no-names. At least they were a fun story for awhile.
and a special ROFL to the university of football in america. ND losing to Navy in 3 OT. Charlie Weiss = super genious.
Gordd
11-03-2007, 09:16 PM
27-17 Aalabalmaa as I type this.
Damnit! I'm in the middle of making shrimp stew and watching the LSU game on delay....knew I shouldn't have read this thread. Scores still 20-17 as I'm watching it now. ::grumbles::
Skeeter
11-03-2007, 09:18 PM
I won't tell you what just happened then. :shocked:
RichardCranium
11-03-2007, 09:43 PM
I wasn't going to say anything because of the turnovers by LSU but this officiating is the fucking worst I've ever seen in my life.
Skeeter
11-03-2007, 10:19 PM
another theft. luckiest team I've ever seen.
RichardCranium
11-03-2007, 10:24 PM
You want to talk luck let's talk OSU's schedule. Who's cock did you have to suck to get a schedule like that and still get National Title consideration? LSU has now played 6 teams in the top 25, 3 in the top 10 and won 5 of them. Luck may have a little bit to do with it but you better pray your guys don't see LSU or Oregon in the Title Game.
Doughboy
11-03-2007, 10:28 PM
.....but you better pray your guys don't see LSU or Oregon in the Title Game.
If they end up playing LSU it'll just be a repeat of last year against Florida. And remember LSU won that game tonight without Perrilloux playing.
Skeeter
11-03-2007, 10:42 PM
Actually if I had to choose my opponent, expecting BC to lose at some point, I'd definitely pick LSU over Oregon. Oregon looks like the best team in the country.
OSU will have played 3 ranked teams by the end of the season. Wisconsin was ranked 5th at one point. SEC is so overrated it's laughable. LSU is a good team, best in the SEC but there's nobody else in the SEC worth a shit.
Skeeter
11-03-2007, 10:43 PM
Also, if you think LSU is lucky not to have 3 losses already apparently you're watching different games than me.
RichardCranium
11-03-2007, 10:47 PM
Wisconsin was ranked 5th at one point.
I can no longer discuss college football with you.
Skeeter
11-03-2007, 10:59 PM
You brought up the top 25 like it means something.
RichardCranium
11-03-2007, 11:05 PM
But apparently you don't comprehend the difference between a current ranking and a former one. Who gives a fuck where Wisconsin used to be ranked, where were they ranked when they took the field today?
Skeeter
11-03-2007, 11:21 PM
they were ranked 21st today and OSU destroyed them. PSU was ranked last week and OSU destroyed them in their house at night. Michigan will be ranked in the top 10 in 2 weeks when OSU goes there to destroy them in their house.
Suppose all that isn't good enough though.
TheEschaton
11-04-2007, 12:55 AM
Well, playing like that, we definitely don't deserve to be #2.
Doughboy
11-04-2007, 12:55 AM
Somebody photoshop the crying Oklahoma kid into a crying Boston College kid....rofl
Skeeter
11-04-2007, 12:58 AM
I would think you could go ahead and hand Dixson the Heisman.
Doughboy
11-04-2007, 12:59 AM
I wouldn't go that far yet. But he's definitely in the top 3 now.
TheEschaton
11-04-2007, 01:00 AM
Who else? Tebow? Come on.
As for us losing late in the season - it was generally accepted that V-tech was our hardest game left. We have FSU, Miami, Clemson, and someone else left now, none of whom have been overly impressive this year.
On the other hand I wouldn't look past FSU, UM or Clemson. None are having great years but to discount three programs with that kind of history would be a foolish move. Big programs like those can win anytime any Saturday.
Ding ding. Most of the chaff is out of the picture now, once OSU loses it'll be that much more exciting. OSU isn't very good but they play such a terrible schedule I'm worried the NC is going to be just as boring as last years (can't we just remove the big 10 from the BCS now? It's pitiful when the Big East and the Pac 10 are better than you).
I wouldn't go that far yet. But he's definitely in the top 3 now.
Glenn Dorsey and Dennis Dixon, who else? The only one who can still thrust himself back into the running is Mike Hart if he runs wild. If UMichigan hadn't lost to App. State he'd be the easy front runner, but there you go.
TheEschaton
11-04-2007, 01:14 AM
Dorsey's injured now, though, isn't he?
Skeeter
11-04-2007, 01:17 AM
Ding ding. Most of the chaff is out of the picture now, once OSU loses it'll be that much more exciting. OSU isn't very good but they play such a terrible schedule I'm worried the NC is going to be just as boring as last years (can't we just remove the big 10 from the BCS now? It's pitiful when the Big East and the Pac 10 are better than you).
I know you're just trying to get a rise out of me and you can't possibly be this stupid, so I'll let it go.
Dorsey's injured now, though, isn't he?
He played.
Skeeter
11-04-2007, 01:19 AM
I'd say these numbers look pretty good.
comp att yards % ypa lng TD INT Rating
139 209 1799 66.5 8.61 68 21 8 164.32
I know you're just trying to get a rise out of me and you can't possibly be this stupid, so I'll let it go.
The best team in your conference lost to a D-II team. Case closed.
oldanforgotten
11-04-2007, 01:23 AM
they were ranked 21st today and OSU destroyed them. PSU was ranked last week and OSU destroyed them in their house at night. Michigan will be ranked in the top 10 in 2 weeks when OSU goes there to destroy them in their house.
Suppose all that isn't good enough though.
Ohio State has not beaten a single legitimately good team this year.
Wisconsin? Wisconsin started the year ranked 5th, struggled against D1-A powerhouses like The Citadel, and they've yet to post a win against a team with a winning record against 1-a.
PSU? Who exactly have they beaten?
The Big 10 as a whole this year positively blows. I think Ohio State is a good team, but they havent really done a whole lot more than Hawaii, to be honest. Not a single good win.
Michigan being ranked in the top 10 is a joke as well. They've beaten up on patsies, got blown out in the only game they've played all year against a legit top 10 caliber team. They're ranked that high because the name says Michigan.
LSU is lucky to have only 1 loss right now. But they've got a couple quality wins under their belt. The SEC, like the Big 10, is notorious for scheduling some utter BS in nonconference play, but unlike the Big 10, they back up their inflated rankings come bowl time, whereas the Big 10 in recent years, other than Ohio State, has just stunk up the field.
Oregon has a very impressive resume so far as well, and I don't count the win vs Michigan to be one of their best wins either, because Michigan hasn't beaten anyone worth a damn to justify their ranking, and at best are a marginal top 25 team.
IMHO Oregon and LSU are the two best teams in the country right now, and right behind them is Oklahoma. Ohio State is an unknown, because they havent proven themselves yet. And I think they ought to prove something, because their performance in last years title game was an utter embarassment, and they are setting up to do just that again.
Look at it this way. The Big 10 ain't big anymore. 3 national titles in the last 40 years, and one of them was shared. A horrible rose bowl record over the span, and other than OSU, a HORRENDOUS BCS bowl and regular bowl record.
If OSU gets into the title game as 12-0, then Boise State should have been in it last year, because I dont see how winning a mid major conference with no good OOC games cuts it.
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Skeeter
11-04-2007, 01:28 AM
The best team in your conference lost to a D-II team. Case closed.
Don't be salty because your team is no longer relevant. I mean for fucks sake losing to NC St. at home??? That's pathetic.
Didn't you used to be Miami? ROFL South Florida is a better team than yours and they've only been around a few years.
If OSU gets into the title game as 12-0, then Boise State should have been in it last year, because I dont see how winning a mid major conference with no good OOC games cuts it.
I think most everyone would prefer their team to play this year's Ohio State rather than last year's Boise State if a title game.
Skeeter
11-04-2007, 01:29 AM
Ohio State has not beaten a single legitimately good team this year.
Wisconsin? Wisconsin started the year ranked 5th, struggled against D1-A powerhouses like The Citadel, and they've yet to post a win against a team with a winning record against 1-a.
PSU? Who exactly have they beaten?
The Big 10 as a whole this year positively blows. I think Ohio State is a good team, but they havent really done a whole lot more than Hawaii, to be honest. Not a single good win.
Michigan being ranked in the top 10 is a joke as well. They've beaten up on patsies, got blown out in the only game they've played all year against a legit top 10 caliber team. They're ranked that high because the name says Michigan.
LSU is lucky to have only 1 loss right now. But they've got a couple quality wins under their belt. The SEC, like the Big 10, is notorious for scheduling some utter BS in nonconference play, but unlike the Big 10, they back up their inflated rankings come bowl time, whereas the Big 10 in recent years, other than Ohio State, has just stunk up the field.
Oregon has a very impressive resume so far as well, and I don't count the win vs Michigan to be one of their best wins either, because Michigan hasn't beaten anyone worth a damn to justify their ranking, and at best are a marginal top 25 team.
IMHO Oregon and LSU are the two best teams in the country right now, and right behind them is Oklahoma. Ohio State is an unknown, because they havent proven themselves yet. And I think they ought to prove something, because their performance in last years title game was an utter embarassment, and they are setting up to do just that again.
Look at it this way. The Big 10 ain't big anymore. 3 national titles in the last 40 years, and one of them was shared. A horrible rose bowl record over the span, and other than OSU, a HORRENDOUS BCS bowl and regular bowl record.
If OSU gets into the title game as 12-0, then Boise State should have been in it last year, because I dont see how winning a mid major conference with no good OOC games cuts it.
I see, so the rankings mean everything when it's the SEC but they mean nothing when it's the Big10. That's a reasonable argument. I also seem to remember the SEC going 1-2 vs the big10 in bowl games last year. Weird.
Skeeter
11-04-2007, 01:33 AM
digging a little deeper it looks like over the last 4 years the big10 is 6-5 vs the SEC in bowl games.
man the SEC must be fucking horrible.
Don't be salty because your team is no longer relevant. I mean for fucks sake losing to NC St. at home??? That's pathetic.
Didn't you used to be Miami? ROFL South Florida is a better team than yours and they've only been around a few years.
I'm not claiming my team deserves to be #1 or play for the national title. My team has to play for a real conference with good football teams. Just because some Big 10 teams are really old and used to be good doesn't make them good today. If a long history of winning mattered then Yale would be kicking ass. ACC, SEC, Big 12 are the only conferences that are good conferences and you deserve respect for playing out of them. Big 10, Pac 10, Big East have one, at best, two legitimate threats per year.
Skeeter
11-04-2007, 01:36 AM
I think most everyone would prefer their team to play this year's Ohio State rather than last year's Boise State if a title game.
I would guess your team would be happy to get in ANY bowl game. I would say there's a really good chance Miami runs the table in reverse to finish the season 5-7
Skeeter
11-04-2007, 01:37 AM
I'm not claiming my team deserves to be #1 or play for the national title. My team has to play for a real conference with good football teams. Just because some Big 10 teams are really old and used to be good doesn't make them good today. If a long history of winning mattered then Yale would be kicking ass. ACC, SEC, Big 12 are the only conferences that are good conferences and you deserve respect for playing out of them. Big 10, Pac 10, Big East have one, at best, two legitimate threats per year.
ROFL at you saying the ACC is a good football conference. Grasp those straws a little tighter.
Skeeter
11-04-2007, 01:40 AM
Drew I just realized why you're so bitter at OSU. OSU wrecked your school, after losing the title game in 02 it's been a quick trip off a cliff. Be mad at your AD and coaching staff, it's not OSU's fault your team sucks.
For instance, let's compare our teams vs. SEC (I choose the SEC because it hasn't shuffled teams like other conferences so you can compared over the long term). Since 1980 Miami is .652 against the SEC. That's 15 wins and 8 losses. In the same time period OSU is .150 against the SEC. That's 1 win, 8 losses, and 1 tie. See what happens when OSU plays a real conference?
ROFL at you saying the ACC is a good football conference. Grasp those straws a little tighter.
The numbers don't lie my friend, keep playing your patsies and pretending the rest of the country thinks UMichigan-OSU is a big game. My team will be back (heck, it could already beat OSU this year) on the NC level soon, we've won 5 in the last 30 years, OSU wins one every 30 years.
Skeeter
11-04-2007, 01:47 AM
If a long history of winning mattered then Yale would be kicking ass.
didn't you just say this like 4 posts ago? Now you're going to the history argument? Someone throw Drew a life perserver cause he's drowning here.
I know you don't want to take a walk down memory lane with an OSU fan. OSU has as many heisman trophys as the entire SEC conference.
This was supposed to be a rebuilding year for OSU with only 2 starting seniors. They're in great position to go to the NC 3 years in a row. I'd take 3 championships in a row and a 2-1 record.
Skeeter
11-04-2007, 01:51 AM
The numbers don't lie my friend, keep playing your patsies and pretending the rest of the country thinks UMichigan-OSU is a big game. My team will be back (heck, it could already beat OSU this year) on the NC level soon, we've won 5 in the last 30 years, OSU wins one every 30 years.
This is too stupid to even address.
didn't you just say this like 4 posts ago? Now you're going to the history argument?
Yeah, OSU gets ranked higher than they should because they were good in 1920. It has no bearing on today's game. Recent history does.
This is too stupid to even address.
Translation: This is all factually correct and there is no acceptable comeback to the saddening reality.
thefarmer
11-04-2007, 01:00 AM
I know you don't want to take a walk down memory lane with an OSU fan. OSU has as many heisman trophys as the entire SEC conference.
How does having individually great players equate to a great team? Plenty of great teams are made up of non-heisman players.
Skeeter
11-04-2007, 01:01 AM
Translation: This is all factually correct and there is no acceptable comeback to the saddening reality.
or, you're a moron.
09/08/07 at Oklahoma Norman, Ok L, 51-13
09/15/07 vs. Florida International Miami, Fla. W, 23-9
09/20/07 vs. Texas A&M Miami, Fla. W, 34-17
09/29/07 vs. Duke * Miami, Fla. W, 24-14
10/06/07 at North Carolina * Chapel Hill, NC L, 33-27
10/13/07 vs. Georgia Tech * Miami, Fla. L, 17-14
10/20/07 at Florida State * Tallahassee, Fla. W, 37-29
11/03/07 vs. North Carolina State * Miami, Fla. L, 19-16
Sure intimidates me. The only sad reality for you is that OSU is a national powerhouse every year and Miami can't beat north carolina.
Skeeter
11-04-2007, 01:03 AM
How does having individually great players equate to a great team? Plenty of great teams are made up of non-heisman players.
well it doesn't in and of itself, but typically the Heisman isn't given to players on bad teams. Ask Darren McFadden
Funny thing about that schedule is that Miami has beaten a higher ranked opponent than Ohio State. Anyway, I'm not claiming Miami is a good team this year, that's just not true. But they could beat Ohio State.
Here's a list of ACC teams, pick the ones Ohio State would have a good chance of beating:
Boston College
Clemson
Wake Forest
Florida State
North Carolina State
Maryland
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Miami (FL)
North Carolina
Georgia Tech
Duke
If you come up with a number greater than 2 you are retarded or this guy:
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q233/mercury500/homer.jpg
Warriorbird
11-04-2007, 01:39 AM
Not that I'm an Ohio State fan...but there's a pretty easy 3 on there minimum and a debateable 4.
Apathy
11-04-2007, 02:27 AM
Silly football troll is so silly.
Not that I'm an Ohio State fan...but there's a pretty easy 3 on there minimum and a debateable 4.
I guess NCST is debatable but they beat Virginia who are better than Ohio State. I don't know who your 4th is.
Skeeter
11-04-2007, 10:44 AM
You should really just stop watching football at this point, let alone showing everyone how completely ignorant you are by talking about it.
Sean of the Thread
11-04-2007, 10:59 AM
Lol thanks for the chuckle guys.
Apathy
11-04-2007, 11:35 AM
I think its safe to say that being #2 is a curse this year.
You guys (and girls... if you're out there) think #2 should be LSU, Oregon, Ok, or Kansas at this point? I still think OK is the best team, but Oregon looks just plain nasty and seem to be getting better as the season goes on. LSU is the cream of the SEC. Kansas has played a weak schedule but hey, they ARE undefeated late in the season.
TheEschaton
11-04-2007, 11:38 AM
Oregon, definitely.
Apathy
11-04-2007, 11:42 AM
I would be quick to agree with you, but besides their victory at MI - which was thought to be a huge upset at the time, hindsight shows differently doesnt it? - they've played all their key matchups at home. And they don't have any road games that really test them.
Skeeter
11-04-2007, 12:57 PM
I think it should be oregeon, LSU, Oklahoma, Kansas.
Kansas and Oklahoma will play each other in the championship if the both win out so it doesn't really matter which way you put those. Oregon doesn't have another challenge on the schedule and will win out.
LSU doesn't have another challenge until the SEC championship game.
OSU shouldn't lose another game but playing on the road in Michigan is always a concern, even with past success. Rivalrys are funny that way.
My prediction OSU v. Oregon in the championship.
What a fun year this has been.
Sean of the Thread
11-04-2007, 01:03 PM
Skeeter R FTW (12:00:24 PM): the coup de grace was when he said every team in the ACC was better than OSU. I about fell out of my chair laughing
Skeeter R FTW (12:00:50 PM): I know I'm an OSU honk but damn..
BlackBelushi (12:01:09 PM): lol
BlackBelushi (12:01:18 PM): no seriously he is retarded
BlackBelushi (12:01:28 PM): he lives in an ALF
BlackBelushi (12:01:34 PM): that's why I dont pick on him much
Skeeter R FTW (12:01:48 PM): ALF? like assisted living?
BlackBelushi (12:01:51 PM): yes
Skeeter R FTW (12:01:55 PM): had no idea
BlackBelushi (12:02:28 PM): The acc is all you got when you have to have someone change your diapers 5 times a day
Skeeter R FTW (12:02:35 PM): lol
Skeeter R FTW (12:02:38 PM): now I feel bad
stallion4
11-04-2007, 01:19 PM
...lol...
Daniel
11-04-2007, 01:19 PM
Go AU EAGLES!!!! WOOO!O!!!!
oldanforgotten
11-05-2007, 11:20 AM
digging a little deeper it looks like over the last 4 years the big10 is 6-5 vs the SEC in bowl games.
man the SEC must be fucking horrible.
First off, look at the actual bowl matchups. The only bowl game that would match evenly is the Capital One Bowl, where the #2 big ten plays the #2 SEC. The other bowl matchups all have lower finishing SEC teams playing higher finishing other conference teams. I'm not touting the SEC, because many of the years they claim to be strong, they are no stronger than most other conferences.
Ok, so let's compare, since you're up to it.
Who exactly has Ohio State beaten that's worth a damn?
There is a difference between a realist and a homer. A realist evaluates the teams played, and makes a determination based off of that.
Ok, so anyway, let's get back to the comparisons. Michigan is now a top 10 team at 8-2.
Why are they #10 over Clemson, Texas, Virginia, or any other of the other 8-2 teams? Who have they beaten? Who have they lost to? What on their resume makes them more impressive?
As a conference, what has the big 10 done in nonconference play? Any good wins? Any at all? How about a single win vs a major nonconference opponent with a winning record? Something? Anything? They've played a few that I can remember, and every time it led to them getting smoked.
Sagarin :
1 SOUTHEASTERN (A) = 80.69 80.36 ( 1) 12
2 BIG EAST (A) = 78.48 77.64 ( 4) 8
3 BIG 12 (A) = 77.90 77.67 ( 3) 12
4 PAC-10 (A) = 77.44 78.11 ( 2) 10
5 ATLANTIC COAST (A) = 76.86 76.68 ( 5) 12
6 BIG TEN (A) = 76.13 76.12 ( 6) 11
The computers have had NO trouble figuring it out.
Anderson Hester:
Southeastern .631
Pac-10 .624
Atlantic Coast .589
Big East .576
Big 12 .573
Big Ten .544
Massey and Colley show an even grimmer picture.
Oddly enough, none of them have Michigan anywhere near the top 10..... Hrmmm. The sad reality of it, is that most of the rankings which use both a BCS and a Spread based rating, none of them have Michigan anywhere near the top 10 in either.... hrmmm.... What's going on here?
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oldanforgotten
11-05-2007, 11:23 AM
Actually, just to go above even that.
None of them have any big 10 teams anywhere near their human ranking. Some of them have Wisconsin well outside of the top 50, and had them there before the Ohio State game. In fact, take away Ohio State, (you can accomplish this in the Colley Matrix via removing the games they've played), and the big 10 is wait.... on cue.... WORSE than the MWC!
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Apathy
11-05-2007, 11:57 AM
b/c pooters know futball
Latrinsorm
11-05-2007, 12:18 PM
Here's what I don't get: Sagarin has the Big East as the #2 conference, but Anderson has it as a pretty distant 4th. Shouldn't that level of disparity be addressed before you cite them simultaneously?
Here's another thing I don't get: you specifically point out Ohio State, but Sagarin has Ohio State at #1. ??? You specifically call out Michigan, but Sagarin has Michigan at #15, ahead of Clemson (16), Texas (22), and Virginia (34) (Michigan, Virginia, and Texas are the only 8-2 teams, btw). ???
oldanforgotten
11-05-2007, 03:03 PM
Here's what I don't get: Sagarin has the Big East as the #2 conference, but Anderson has it as a pretty distant 4th. Shouldn't that level of disparity be addressed before you cite them simultaneously?
Here's another thing I don't get: you specifically point out Ohio State, but Sagarin has Ohio State at #1. ??? You specifically call out Michigan, but Sagarin has Michigan at #15, ahead of Clemson (16), Texas (22), and Virginia (34) (Michigan, Virginia, and Texas are the only 8-2 teams, btw). ???
I cite them simultaneously because no matter which computer set you look at, the Big 10 is last. The Big East is probably not the #2 conference. In fact, the SEC isn?t #1 in all the computers either. If you average them up, what you?ll find is that there is a clear top 2, the SEC and the Pac-10, a clear middle 3, favoring the ACC and Big East slightly over the Big 12, and the Big 10 is last. In fact, the only consistent thing across all of them is that the Big 10 is last.
As for computers knowing football, they are generally more accurate than the human polls historically when it comes to the actual games, who wins, and how close they are, but only if you look at the Hawk Line, or White Owl Line, which is the primary determinant in point spreads.
I?m not even saying Ohio State is a bad team. In fact, they look like a pretty good team, but they haven?t proven anything yet. They don?t have anything even resembling a solid win over a good opponent. It?s not their fault that the big 10 isn?t very good this year. Wisconsin struggled against some really bad teams, has yet to post a win over a team with a winning record, and is having a major down year. Penn State has the same issue. Michigan isn?t going to get a whole lot of respect either. The loss to App State aside, Oregon beat them by 30+ on their field, and rung up 650 yards. Oregon could have scored more if they wanted to as well.
If you look relatively, performance wise, the biggest nonconference games of the year in terms of conference vs conference are
(games where either two top teams from the conferences played, OR a game in which the team at the bottom of one conference beat a team near the top of another)
Oregon over Michigan
South Florida over Auburn
Cal over Tennessee
Virginia over Uconn
LSU over VT
Iowa State over Iowa
Kentucky over Louisville
But the bottom line is this. If the biggest win on your resume is a team that lost to a 1-AA and got absolutely horsewhipped by another top 5 team, then your resume isn?t that great. I re-iterate. Remove OSU from the big 10, and the big 10 ranks with the mid majors this year.
And it isn?t even about going undefeated. Kansas is undefeated, and I?m not saying anything about them either. If they beat Missouri and OU in the B12 title game, maybe we?ll see, and if they do accomplish that, they will have a more impressive resume than OSU, by virtue of the OU and Missouri wins alone.
And there?s the always bottom line. If a team Oregon could have beaten with their practice squad is the second best team in your conference, the conference has issues, no matter who the top team is. Anyone who saw the game realized that Oregon was TOYING with them. They were running statue of liberty, fake statue, halfback option passes, and a slew of schoolyard BS because they could, and it was just too damn easy.
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Latrinsorm
11-05-2007, 04:30 PM
Again I say, the Sagarin thingie you cited disagrees with you about Ohio State and Michigan.
Skeeter
11-05-2007, 09:19 PM
I also agree that OSU has been largely untested this year. This doesn't make them a bad team. They have also easily handled every team they have played, another thing you would expect out of a good team.
But damn OAF I do applaud your effort, you really put some time into that even if some of your data doesn't completely agree with what you're saying. :clap: (this isn't even sarcasm, I'm really impressed you went to that much effort)
Makkah
11-05-2007, 09:59 PM
Beating a 5-5 team by 1 TD = handling?
Skeeter
11-05-2007, 11:47 PM
if you watched the game, yes. 2 fluke plays but the game was never in doubt.
Makkah
11-06-2007, 12:00 AM
I saw it. I just don't know if scoring no points in the 4th Quarter (and only 7 points in the 2nd half), and giving up 17 (whether it was off 2 great defensive "flukes") still allows it to be termed "handling"
Skeeter
11-06-2007, 12:55 AM
call it what you want, the game was never in doubt.
RichardCranium
11-10-2007, 07:26 PM
Michigan, Notre Dame and Ohio State all in one day. Life is GOOD.
Sean of the Thread
11-10-2007, 07:30 PM
ahahahhahahahahahahhaha OSU OSU HAHAHAHAH. Made my fucking day.
I thought Michigan losing was going to be my sunshine but OSU getting man handled really can't be beat.
Skeeter
11-10-2007, 07:57 PM
That was disappointing to say the least.
But if you would've told me at the beginning of the year that we would be in position to win the big10 outright and take a trip to the rosebowl I would've been happy with that.
Was supposed to be a rebuilding year anyway. See ya all next year.
Sean of the Thread
11-10-2007, 09:35 PM
It's such a toss up to me which team is the worst in the NCAA.
Hmmmm
ND?
Marshall?
..
.
NOPE FUCKING MIAMI. Complete garbage.. all time garbage. Way to close down the Orange Bowl you dumb fucks. If we're all lucky you and your shit coach will be locked in the the stadium when they push teh plunger.
oldanforgotten
11-10-2007, 10:52 PM
That was disappointing to say the least.
But if you would've told me at the beginning of the year that we would be in position to win the big10 outright and take a trip to the rosebowl I would've been happy with that.
Was supposed to be a rebuilding year anyway. See ya all next year.
It hurt more than one might think. With LSU and Kansas likely controlling their own destinies, with the Big 12 team right behind (Oregon I think would get passed in the computers and the polls would be close enough for OU or Missouri to pass them), that may mean an OSU-Oregon Rose Bowl.
Illinois is the middle school version of Oregon's spread offense. Ohio State better figure it out, or they could get just plain embarassed. Don't blame Ohio State's secondary, this game was entirely the fault of their defensive ends and linebackers. I have never seen a Tressel coached team lose contain so many times in one game.
What's worse is how poorly Ohio State matches up against any of their likely BCS opponents. Oregon is basically a better version of Illinois. LSU, Oklahoma, and WVU all possess way too much speed in their offenses for the OSU linebackers to keep up, and OU and LSU can play very stiff run defense with only 7 in the box.
What also came of light is how green Boeckman is. He made some very poor decisions when the defensive looks were switched on him at the line, and his ability to read the field was seemingly limited, especially when Illinois used more read zone coverages. He throws well into a cover 1, cover 2, and man under cover 2 (the choice defensive looks for most big 10 schools), but those man release zones were confusing the hell out of him. He's gotta start doing a better job of taking what the defense is giving you.
As for Michigan, I knew they sucked, Wisconsin knew they sucked, and now the everyone should know. I re-iterate, this year is a HORRIBLE year for the big 10. There is not a single team from the conference that I would have any confidence in come bowl time save for Illinois and Penn State, and that is only because they will be playing in the bumblefuck tuna company bullshit bowl against barely eligible teams from other conferences.
When it comes to BCS time, I think the Pac-10 gets 2 (Oregon and USC/ASU), the big 12 gets 2 (OU, Kansas/Missouri), the SEC gets 2 (LSU, Georgia), and Hawaii slides in somewhere. Nobody from the Big East is in position, nobody from the ACC is in position save possibly UVA, and the Big 10 will be lucky to even have a second team in the top 20 by season's end.
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Sean of the Thread
11-10-2007, 11:00 PM
The OSU/ILLINI line was one of the easiest pay days of the year for me. How anyone but a homer could lay 15 points on OSU vs IL is beyond me.
I LOVED the big 10 this week.
Date placed:
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(163) Illinois +15 Sat@3:30p
Outcome:Win
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Outcome:Win
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(114) Northwestern +3 (-120) Sat@12:00p
Outcome:Win
Anebriated
11-10-2007, 11:42 PM
Straight Wager 11/10/07 10:44 ET
Result: Wager Won
GaTech 41
Duke 24 11/10/07(13:00 ET)
GaTech -13.5
Straight Wager 11/10/07 10:32 ET
Result: Wager Won
Colorado 28
IowaSt 31 11/10/07(12:30 ET)
IowaSt +4.5
Straight Wager 11/10/07 10:32 ET
Result: Pending
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Maryland +6.5
Skeeter
11-11-2007, 12:34 AM
I don't think anyone in the nation wants to face Oregon this year.
Gordd
11-11-2007, 12:46 AM
I don't think anyone in the nation wants to face Oregon this year.
Call me crazy, but I believe I'd rather think about LSU v. Oregon then think about having to face either Georgia or Florida. I have a very bad feeling about LSU and the SEC Championship game.
oldanforgotten
11-11-2007, 02:56 AM
I'm not sure how you can think that. LSU got past the two teams in the conference that potentially posed the biggest threat to them already in Florida and Auburn matchup wise. Georgia is a good team, a legitimately strong team, but they match up horribly against LSU. Moreno is a between the tackles rusher, and the Georgia pass game depends on him keeping safeties and linebackers up, because Stafford is not a good intermediate passer. As for Tennessee, they can't handle speed of any variety. Cal played them for a bunch of tools, and Florida just manhandled them. LSU should be well equipped for either team.
LSU on the other hand, will have a nightmare to face in Oregon if they play. Where LSU does not excel is in contain. They have excellent pursuit, but misdirection plays will piss them off, especially against a spread offense. Florida beat themselves against LSU. Florida's primary problem all year has been stupidity and freshman mistakes. Oregon does not turn the ball over as much, and doesn't beat themselves as much.
Skeeter is right, no one wants to play Oregon this year. Oklahoma would probably be the best team matchup for Oregon, but not because OU's defense could stop them, but simply because they have an explosive offense themselves that Oregon would not be able to keep up with.
And no one wants to play West Virginia either.
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Sean of the Thread
11-11-2007, 09:42 AM
LSU has the athletes however.
Shaping up to be a great finish to the year. I'm loving it.
Doughboy
11-11-2007, 01:51 PM
And no one wants to play West Virginia either.
Except USF...
But yeah the SEC is shaping up to be a killer finish. I'm glad OSU finally got into a game where they had to prove they were worthy of holding the number one spot. Seemed like Beokman (or however you spell it) just couldn't figure out what to do when the DB's started giving him different looks.
oldanforgotten
11-11-2007, 02:08 PM
LSU has the athletes however.
Shaping up to be a great finish to the year. I'm loving it.
LSU has the best team in the country right now IMHO.
But they match up really piss poor with Oregon.
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RichardCranium
11-11-2007, 02:39 PM
I agree that Dixon and company would give LSU hell, but LSU's offense isn't exactly a pushover.
oldanforgotten
11-12-2007, 12:11 PM
I agree that Dixon and company would give LSU hell, but LSU's offense isn't exactly a pushover.
LSU's offense isn't a pushover, but as of late, their defense has been exposed as pressure-dimensional.
LSU, more than any other team in the country, relies on its Front 4 to create pressure, and it's a strategy that usually works, because their Front 4 is among the best in the nation, if not the best. They are outstanding at holding their gaps against the run, and creating pressure around the edges. Occasionally, a linebacker comes in as well to create some extra hell, but by and large, the linebackers plant themselves underneath routes to make plays and take away outlets. So, as long as they get pressure on the Qb relatively quickly, the deep routes cannot develop, the underneath stuff is all covered, and their spy is faster than your TE or RB, and the pass to the flat gets you nothing.
Works great on paper.... Until you face a strong zone-read offense that can hit the edges. The zone read is the ultimate equalizer for offenses to use against extremely talented, NFL style pressure defenses. The fact that you run the ball as much or more often than you pass, and that the run is a read (QB makes the decision on the fly means 2 things). First, all of the linemen are pass blocking ANYWAY. Second, the defensive ends cannot speed rush the corner, because it would create huge gaps in the line. Everyone has to hold their gaps. If the linebackers push up to stop the run, it becomes a pass play, if they hold their assigments in the zone, it becomes a running play. But in all of that, for the passing attack, it?s bought a second or two, and combined with the fact that the offensive line has had more time to set up a pocket, means the deep stuff is now a threat.
No team is going to play you in a full zone, nor can they use a standard 4-3. 3 wide receivers get corners, and 1 gets a safety. Now there is only one safety for help in the intermediate to deep secondary. The 2 linebackers can?t hold inside, because once the zone read becomes a pass play, now you?ve also got a running back in the flat, so one of them has to go over and help cover. The other linebacker can no longer play the pass, he?s now a spy. 5 receivers, 6 people in coverage. A QB with an accurate arm will make plays. More importantly, if the QB is faster than the spy, he can run for decent yardage if needed as well.
Florida had some success but didn?t ultimately break through because Tebow, while an excellent runner, is not going to turn any corners and beat people with speed around the corner. Florida?s zone read offense has that limitation that Tebow is strongest only between the tackles. Oregon has more offensive capabilities.
Offenses like Oregon and WVU drive SEC style defenses NUTS, because they are usually not prepared for that kind of attack. The only advantage LSU?s defense would have is that they would get a month to prepare.
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Sean of the Thread
11-12-2007, 12:15 PM
TEBOW ... first underclass HEISMAN winner.
:P
oldanforgotten
11-12-2007, 12:19 PM
TEBOW ... first underclass HEISMAN winner.
:P
Not this year though. Probably the preseason favorite next year. Dixon should have all but won it by now, and if I had a vote:
1) Dixon
2) Glen Dorsey
3) Reesing
4) Tebow
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Sean of the Thread
11-12-2007, 12:34 PM
My comment was in jest obviously however the only reasons he wouldn't win this year is 1) underclassman and 2) not in a national title chase.
He's better than dixon...at least dixon has one of the nations best tailbacks to play with. Tebow is his teams best tailback and between the tackles at that... in a conference with real talent and parity. SEC didn't drop down this year just everyone is that much better.
Old school voters still think a senior should get the vote over a junior and definitely a sophmore. Voting in the Heisman race is the most biased of all.
And yes I did say he is better than dixon.
oldanforgotten
11-12-2007, 12:51 PM
My comment was in jest obviously however the only reasons he wouldn't win this year is 1) underclassman and 2) not in a national title chase.
He's better than dixon...at least dixon has one of the nations best tailbacks to play with. Tebow is his teams best tailback and between the tackles at that... in a conference with real talent and parity. SEC didn't drop down this year just everyone is that much better.
Old school voters still think a senior should get the vote over a junior and definitely a sophmore. Voting in the Heisman race is the most biased of all.
And yes I did say he is better than dixon.
Overall, I would agree, he?s a better talent than Dixon. But last year, Adrian Peterson and Calvin Johnson were heads and tails better than anyone else, but neither of them won the Heisman either, and neither of them should have. Troy Smith deserved and won the Heisman. People make some common misconceptions about the Heisman, and as a result, the vote ends up being wrong.
A lot of people think the Heisman
a) Should go to the best player in the nation ? These people would vote for people like McFadden, Dorsey.
b) Should go to the star RB or QB on a national contender ? favoring Dixon, Pat White, or Steve Slaton
c) Should go to a Senior
The Heisman, as an award was meant to be awarded to the player that meant the most to his team:
Oregon?s offense would be mediocre without Dixon
LSU?s defense would be much weaker without Dorsey
West Virginia?s offense takes a big step down without Pat White
Kansas is a .500 team without Reesing
Etc..
What works against Tebow is that 1) he calls some of the worst audibles ever. Attribute this to the fact that the 40% of the offense is Tebow left/middle/right, 20% is zone handoff, and the rest of the offense is either big play or miss. For a guy who is 6?5, he is notoriously bad at checking down, and he needs to learn to throw the ball away more. If I get a choice of which one I take out of high school, I take Tebow every time. But I?d take Dixon as a senior this year, over a sophomore Tebow just as quickly. Tebow will get better. Dixon is as good as he?ll ever be, and I don?t think it?ll be good enough to get him into the NFL. Tebow will probably be one of the better QB?s to play college football in recent history, but the fact is, this year, he is less than what Chris Leak would have been. His inability to throw the ball away, and his general unwillingness to audible to passing plays when 9 guys are obviously in the box are things he is going to have to overcome in his junior and senior years.
There have been plenty of years when the Heisman got it messed up. Jason White winning the award over Leinart. Bush winning over Vince Young. Ron Dayne winning anything.
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Sean of the Thread
11-12-2007, 01:05 PM
Audibles must be working some of the time.. same with the 40% big play or miss?
173/255 at 67.8% for 2532 yards. 23 TDs in the air and a 177.09 passer rating. 2nd best in NCAA.
19 tds on the ground with zero FL with 170 attempts.
Somewhere your percentages are way off.
Other than that I agree with everything you said. That much about the Heisman is a no brainer. Like I said my tebow heisman blast was in jest.
P.s. tebow is only 6'3 230lb.
Without Tebow to carry the load this years things would be a lot different in gainsville. Like I said before Dixon has a stud named Jonathan Stewart.. and if the ducks didn't have him.. they would be no wheres near where they are now. Tebow is much more important to the gators this year than chris leak ever was.
oldanforgotten
11-12-2007, 01:18 PM
Audibles must be working some of the time.. same with the 40% big play or miss?
173/255 at 67.8% for 2532 yards. 23 TDs in the air and a 177.09 passer rating. 2nd best in NCAA.
19 tds on the ground with zero FL with 170 attempts.
Somewhere your percentages are way off.
Other than that I agree with everything you said. That much about the Heisman is a no brainer. Like I said my tebow heisman blast was in jest.
P.s. tebow is only 6'3 230lb.
Without Tebow to carry the load this years things would be a lot different in gainsville. Like I said before Dixon has a stud named Jonathan Stewart.. and if the ducks didn't have him.. they would be no wheres near where they are now. Tebow is much more important to the gators this year than chris leak ever was.
Big play or miss, yes. He's averaging close to 14 yards per completion. Considering they throw a lot of screens and short stuff, it means he is throwing the ball down the field (15+ yard passes) a lot to get that number.
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Atlanteax
11-12-2007, 01:23 PM
UM made the mistake if not playing Mike Hart against Wisconsin.
That game was a must-win. Not vs OSU.
Ended up shooting self in the foot, yet again, this year.
oldanforgotten
11-12-2007, 01:34 PM
UM made the mistake if not playing Mike Hart against Wisconsin.
That game was a must-win. Not vs OSU.
Ended up shooting self in the foot, yet again, this year.
UM made the mistake of thinking they were a top 25 team. Granted, they get the default ranking because they have the name Michigan. But god damn, this is a down year for them.
And Wisconsin was never a must win game. Ohio State was the only must win game.
Win against Ohio State, and they get a pass into the BCS as the worst ever BCS team in the history of the BCS, save perhaps for BC in 03. Then again, out of respect, they should probably lose to Ohio State.
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Sean of the Thread
11-15-2007, 03:55 PM
the case for TEBOW continues to grow stronger.
This week’s poll, with statistics from last week:
Name, Position, School, Last Week, Points
1. Dennis Dixon, QB, Oregon, Did not play. 45, (6).
2. Tim Tebow, QB, Florida, 22-of-32, 304 yards passing, 2 TD passes, 120 rushing yards, 5 TD runs, 43 (4).
3. Chase Daniel, QB, Missouri, 27-of-35, 352 yards, 3 TD passes. 20
4. Pat White, QB, West Virginia, 16-of-25, 181 yards, 2 TD passes, 147 rushing yards, TD run. 19.
Others receiving votes: Darren McFadden (RB, Arkansas) 12; Todd Reesing (QB, Kansas) 5; Sam Bradford (QB, Oklahoma) 3; Jim Laurinaitis (LB, Ohio State) 2; Michael Crabtree (WR, Texas Tech) 1.
oldanforgotten
11-15-2007, 04:31 PM
the case for TEBOW continues to grow stronger.
This week?s poll, with statistics from last week:
Name, Position, School, Last Week, Points
1. Dennis Dixon, QB, Oregon, Did not play. 45, (6).
2. Tim Tebow, QB, Florida, 22-of-32, 304 yards passing, 2 TD passes, 120 rushing yards, 5 TD runs, 43 (4).
3. Chase Daniel, QB, Missouri, 27-of-35, 352 yards, 3 TD passes. 20
4. Pat White, QB, West Virginia, 16-of-25, 181 yards, 2 TD passes, 147 rushing yards, TD run. 19.
Others receiving votes: Darren McFadden (RB, Arkansas) 12; Todd Reesing (QB, Kansas) 5; Sam Bradford (QB, Oklahoma) 3; Jim Laurinaitis (LB, Ohio State) 2; Michael Crabtree (WR, Texas Tech) 1.
No question Tebow deserves consideration, but I just dont see any way he can beat out Dixon, especially if Oregon is heading to the title game.
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I just can't see Tebow winning it, can you imagine if he wins it his soph year and Adrian Peterson didn't?
Skeeter
11-15-2007, 05:36 PM
That's cool Laurinaitis got votes. It would be nice if a defensive player won it every now and then.
Sean of the Thread
11-15-2007, 07:49 PM
No question Tebow deserves consideration, but I just dont see any way he can beat out Dixon, especially if Oregon is heading to the title game.
I don't make the votes.
He's currently 2 behind this week. Make your case to teh voters.
Doughboy
11-16-2007, 12:16 AM
No question Tebow deserves consideration, but I just dont see any way he can beat out Dixon, especially if Oregon is heading to the title game.
What was that?
Skeeter
11-16-2007, 01:35 AM
What a great game between Oregon and Arizona. Strongbad in the stands is cracking me up.
Skeeter
11-16-2007, 01:43 AM
Down go the ducks. Curse of the 2 strikes again.
Does the injury cost Dixon the heisman?
Sean of the Thread
11-16-2007, 02:41 AM
Down go the ducks. Curse of the 2 strikes again.
Does the injury cost Dixon the heisman?
Considering he wasn't a lock for it unless they ran the table and took the title .. yeah it costs him the heisman if he misses a game.
OH AND
Date settled:
Nov 16, 2007 12:54a
Single #XXX
Football - College Lines (Game) Pointspread
(306) Arizona +11 Thu@9:00p
Outcome:Win
double digit home dogs for the win.
Keller
11-16-2007, 03:41 AM
Oregon deserves to retain their number 2 spot after staying competitive with any Leaf as their QB. That game should have been a blow-out.
Sean of the Thread
11-16-2007, 04:05 AM
Wasn't even going to be a blowout with dixon.
They might have one by 7 tops.
oldanforgotten
11-16-2007, 11:09 AM
Wasn't even going to be a blowout with dixon.
They might have one by 7 tops.
Eh, I think they would have won by a blowout had Dixon stayed in. That's why I think he is the most valuable player for his team in the country.
But yes, injuries can cost someone the Heisman, and with Oregon dropping the game, I'd now also honestly give the edge to Tebow, who's been huge for them even during their losses.
And Injuries may affect how far they fall (they may only fall to number 6 or 7 or so), but now the picture is getting clearer.
We are now basically garaunteed to have a big 12 team in the title game.
Kansas has the inside track to the top seed.
LSU also has the inside track to the title game from outside the Big 12.
If LSU loses, based on voting bias against the Big East, I would give the edge to OSU as the team to slip in from behind over WVU.
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Sean of the Thread
11-16-2007, 11:27 AM
Eh, I think they would have won by a blowout had Dixon stayed in. That's why I think he is the most valuable player for his team in the country.
And that's why I think you don't know as much about football as you pretend to.
I don't know what you consider a blowout but they were only 10 point favorites.
I still say Tebow is more important to his team than dixon. Not to mention that Dixon was only leading by 2 votes in the scripps as it were. He wasn't a lock for anything.
Keller
11-16-2007, 11:38 AM
Wasn't even going to be a blowout with dixon.
They might have one by 7 tops.
I was implying Arizona should have blown out Oregon w/ Leaf as their QB. He was absolutely horrible.
RichardCranium
11-16-2007, 11:42 AM
Glenn Dorsey.
oldanforgotten
11-16-2007, 11:48 AM
And that's why I think you don't know as much about football as you pretend to.
I don't know what you consider a blowout but they were only 10 point favorites.
I still say Tebow is more important to his team than dixon. Not to mention that Dixon was only leading by 2 votes in the scripps as it were. He wasn't a lock for anything.
Nobody "knows" college football infallibly. You've probably seen more games than I have, considering I usually make it point to go to the bigger games in person, meaning I only see one or two games that weekend, whereas you've got the tube and the highlight shows.
A blowout is anything that is 2 touchdowns or more, and I'll stand by it, we'll never know.
That can be argued back and forth. I'm sure most people from Florida think Tebow means more, most people from Oregon think Dixon means more, most people in Texas think McCoy is the greatest, etc..
With Dixon's injury, I think Tebow gets the inside track.
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Sean of the Thread
11-16-2007, 11:58 AM
Like I said it was already neck and neck. I'm not a homer. Without tebow the gators would prolly have 2 wins this year.
Granted the gators play in a tougher conference and that's one of the reasons a 3 loss QB is still neck and neck in the heisman race.
Oregon would have had won out for dixon to get it.
Skeeter
11-16-2007, 03:54 PM
OSU is back in the hunt. With a win tomorrow all that needs to happen is WVU and LSU lose. Both of those teams have tough games remaining on the schedule.
A less likely scenario would be all the big 12 teams to lose and either lsu or Wvu losing.
Guess we better get that win tomorrow. I was in columbus today so I can say we.
OSU is back in the hunt. With a win tomorrow all that needs to happen is WVU and LSU lose. Both of those teams have tough games remaining on the schedule.
A less likely scenario would be all the big 12 teams to lose and either lsu or Wvu losing.
Guess we better get that win tomorrow. I was in columbus today so I can say we.
It could happen, even though OSU is terrible, you don't play any good teams. BTW, after you lost to Illinois are you ready to take back calling me a retard and etc.? I thought that was pretty quick karma, actually.
Sean of the Thread
11-16-2007, 05:18 PM
Don't be bitter that UM couldn't beat tina turner if they wanted to.
Skeeter
11-16-2007, 05:54 PM
no you're still pretty stupid Drew
Makkah
11-16-2007, 05:56 PM
In unrelated news,
Auburn released their 2008 schedule this week. We finally got WV to play us. It's at WV which I assumes will open 2009 for a game at Auburn.
Sean of the Thread
11-16-2007, 07:00 PM
Cool news.
However if the tigers played WVU this year they would have been embarrassed.
Makkah
11-16-2007, 07:25 PM
Sadly, that might have been true.
Sean of the Thread
11-16-2007, 07:35 PM
I hate WVU. Someone send them flaming shit bags.
Don't be bitter that UM couldn't beat tina turner if they wanted to.
Guess what? I never claimed UM could win, Skeeter claimed OSU deserved to be number 1 when they are a terrible team.
Sean of the Thread
11-16-2007, 07:51 PM
Guess what? I never claimed UM could win, Skeeter claimed OSU deserved to be number 1 when they are a terrible team.
Uh no you actually claimed UM was a good team this year. Laughingly so... after I lambasted you... you still heartily exclaimed.. "OH YEAH WE'LL SEE!" Well we've seen. (that I was right)
Skeeter is making a BCS case for the team now in the end of the season and correctly so. Such is the BCS. He has completely and candidly admitted all season over numerous posts and conversations that this was rebuilding year for OSU and the cupcake schedule was directly related to that. I believe OSU has no business being road favorites this week. My lean right now is on MI +4 if everyone is healthy.
Soooo maybe pay attention.
Miami .. most embarrassing city for both college and pros this year. I doubt anyone was surprised however.
So in summation you fucking lose.
Q_Q
Uh no you actually claimed UM was a good team this year. Laughingly so... after I lambasted you... you still heartily exclaimed.. "OH YEAH WE'LL SEE!" Well we've seen. (that I was right)
Quote plz.
Skeeter
11-16-2007, 11:08 PM
Dixon out for the season with ACL sugery. Hate to see the kid go down like that, he was fun to watch.
Hope it doesn't affect his career in the nfl as a rb or wr or whatever they would've made him play.
Sean of the Thread
11-17-2007, 12:34 AM
Quote plz.
I don't feel like it.
But from the top of my head I believe your statement was "UM RUNNING GAME IS HOT HOT HOT THIS YEAR OMGZ MARSHALL OMG" "Wait till we play OK next we're hot hot hot"
ROFL. I don't think I busted your balls for that one.. was no sense in really piling on for what was going to be a painful season. Didn't OK beat UM by like 60 that game?
Anyways I'll leave you alone. Good luck with you're last two road games.
Oh yeah, I said our running game was hot hot hot, which is true, everything else about the team basically sucks though.
Anebriated
11-17-2007, 08:28 PM
Straight Wager 11/17/07 14:58 ET
Result: Wager Won
California 23
WashingtonU 37 11/17/07(15:45 ET)
WashingtonU +7
2) BET ID=227492501
Straight Wager 11/17/07 12:57 ET
Result: Wager Won
Marshall 28
HoustonU 35 11/17/07(15:30 ET)
Marshall +11.5
3) BET ID=227492136
Straight Wager 11/17/07 12:54 ET
Result: Wager Won
PennSt 31
MichiganSt 35 11/17/07(15:45 ET)
MichiganSt +2.5
Sean of the Thread
11-17-2007, 08:41 PM
Oh yeah!?!?!
Date placed:
Nov 17, 2007 3:31p
Football - College Lines (Game) Pointspread
(364) Mississippi +20 Sat@3:30p
Outcome:Win
Date placed:
Nov 17, 2007 3:31p
Football - College Lines (Game) Pointspread
(362) Washington +7 (-115) Sat@3:30p
Outcome:Win
Date placed:
Nov 17, 2007 3:30p
Football - College Lines (Game) Pointspread
(320) Michigan State +3 (-125) Sat@3:30p
Outcome:Win
Date placed:
Nov 17, 2007 3:42p
Football - College Lines (Game) Pointspread
(372) Virginia Tech -17 (-105) Sat@3:30p
Outcome:Win
Date placed:
Nov 17, 2007 2:03p
Football - College Lines (Game) Pointspread
(327) Vanderbilt +12 Sat@2:00p
Outcome:Win
Date placed:
Nov 17, 2007 3:44p
Football - College Halftimes (2H) Pointspread
(333) BYU -3½ Sat@3:30p
Outcome:Win
Date placed:
Nov 17, 2007 2:03p
Football - College Lines (Game) Pointspread
(334) Wyoming +11 (-120) Sat@2:00p
(Bought 0.5 points)
Outcome:Loss
Date placed:
Nov 17, 2007 11:06a
Football - College Lines (Game) Pointspread
(368) Kansas State +7 (-105) Sat@12:30p
Outcome:Loss
Date placed:
Nov 17, 2007 11:35a
Football - College Lines (Game) Pointspread
(329) Bowling Green +1 Sat@1:00p
Outcome:Win
Date placed:
Nov 17, 2007 11:20a
Football - College Lines (Game) Pointspread
(365) Kentucky +8 (-115) Sat@12:30p
Final Scores
Kentucky 13
Georgia 24
Outcome:Loss
Anebriated
11-17-2007, 09:18 PM
Wanna share some plays before the game next time? Im not doing too bad in college ball, 8-2 over the last 2 weekends, but i wouldnt mind having more games to play :grin:
Wanna share some plays before the game next time? Im not doing too bad in college ball, 8-2 over the last 2 weekends, but i wouldnt mind having more games to play :grin:
Haha yeah right, then you would see all the ones he loses. It's no coincidence that we only see them afterwards.
Sean of the Thread
11-17-2007, 10:07 PM
Haha yeah right, then you would see all the ones he loses. It's no coincidence that we only see them afterwards.
You're an idiot.
You're an idiot.
K whatever, keep showing us your great winning picks when this idiot who knows "nothing about football" is killing you in a simple pick 'em.
Sean of the Thread
11-18-2007, 09:27 AM
K whatever, keep showing us your great winning picks when this idiot who knows "nothing about football" is killing you in a simple pick 'em.
Sure thing. There was 2 late games left to go last night before I went to bed.
Date placed:
Nov 17, 2007 6:26p
Date settled:
Nov 18, 2007 12:18a
Football - College Lines (Game) Pointspread
(344) Texas Tech +8 (-125) Sat@8:00p
(Bought 0.5 points)
Outcome:Win
Date placed:
Nov 17, 2007 11:46a
Football - College Lines (Game) Pointspread
(322) Cincinnati +6 (-115) Sat@7:45p
Outcome:Win
Skeeter
11-18-2007, 10:58 AM
LOL @ Bama & Oklahoma
Buckeyes not dead yet.
Anebriated
11-18-2007, 12:55 PM
K whatever, keep showing us your great winning picks when this idiot who knows "nothing about football" is killing you in a simple pick 'em.
In all fairness im only up by 1 or 2 games on him. Just like he enjoys a good ribbing that is why I brought it up as well :grin: . I believe that he is winning more games than losing in his bets. I have asked him a few things about betting since im still trying to become more consistant and he does it for a living apparently. The advice he gave is exactly the advice I needed, I dont think hes bullshitting this time.
Sean of the Thread
11-18-2007, 01:33 PM
For those that know me one thing I am is honest.
I've always admitted the NFL isn't my specialty as well. Still doesn't mean I'm getting "killed" by football idiot drew in straight up picks.
I'm only up to week 8 recapping but I'll let you know what the final result is.
Anebriated
11-18-2007, 01:36 PM
I went back and counted when you first called me out :grin: I had 72/110 picks for 65.4% and you had 70/110 for 63.6%. For the NFL not being your specialty those arent bad numbers. Of course these are all SU and not ATS.
In all fairness im only up by 1 or 2 games on him. Just like he enjoys a good ribbing that is why I brought it up as well :grin: . I believe that he is winning more games than losing in his bets. I have asked him a few things about betting since im still trying to become more consistant and he does it for a living apparently. The advice he gave is exactly the advice I needed, I dont think hes bullshitting this time.
I'm just giving him a hard time on a message board, no need to defend him, I think he knows it's not serious.
Sean of the Thread
11-23-2007, 04:44 PM
McFadden is a joke.
Skeeter
11-23-2007, 04:48 PM
Whooooo pig Suey!
Makkah
11-23-2007, 05:48 PM
Yea... he looks horrible today...
dumbass.
Sean of the Thread
11-23-2007, 05:58 PM
Yea... he looks horrible today...
dumbass.
16 rushes for 75 yard and 3 fumbles?
1 break out for 73 yards on a non call holding...
He looks outstanding.
Dumbass.
Sean of the Thread
11-23-2007, 06:01 PM
Griese = one of the worst announcers ever.
Makkah
11-23-2007, 06:05 PM
1 fumble lost and 4.88 yards a carry (it was 78 yards before the long one) BEFORE blasting off a 73 yarder... I'd still say that's not horrible.
We'll see what kind of end-game stats he has...
Makkah
11-23-2007, 06:07 PM
...that said:
LSU's defense is playing like shit.
Sean of the Thread
11-23-2007, 06:14 PM
...that said:
LSU's defense is playing like shit.
The whole teams looks flat footed.
I thought flynn was in a coma.
Sean of the Thread
11-23-2007, 06:21 PM
1 fumble lost and 4.88 yards a carry (it was 78 yards before the long one) BEFORE blasting off a 73 yarder... I'd still say that's not horrible.
We'll see what kind of end-game stats he has...
While I'm not impressed with him in this game as I stated earlier I want to clarify my "he's a joke" comment.
After each of his fumbles he was whining and crying and giving excuses to anyone that would listen. That shit gets on my nerves like no other.
RichardCranium
11-23-2007, 06:43 PM
Gary Danielson's been taking jabs at LSU all game long. I guess his pussy still hurts after Les Miles called bullshit on his comment that Glenn Dorsey shouldn't play another snap for LSU after the chop block against Auburn.
Makkah
11-23-2007, 07:05 PM
Add a touchdown throw.
Sean of the Thread
11-23-2007, 07:07 PM
Add a touchdown throw.
Isn't that what QB's are sposed to do?
tee hee.
I got sick of Griese's Tebow comparisons and muted it. Fucking kidding me.
RichardCranium
11-23-2007, 07:20 PM
You've got to be fucking kidding me.
Sean of the Thread
11-23-2007, 07:30 PM
You've got to be fucking kidding me.
Not sure what your post is in reference to.
Care to elaborate to the rest of us can enjoy?
RichardCranium
11-23-2007, 07:31 PM
The bullshit holding call, the phantom timeout, ANOTHER FUCKING OVERTIME GAME. Take your pick.
Gordd
11-23-2007, 07:31 PM
Jesus Christo! This damned game is going to kill me...thankfully my wife isn't home to gripe about my screaming and yelling. Case of beer and damned near a pack of smokes so far with just this game...If LSU doesn't win, they're going to ruin my plans of getting crawfish shipped out for the BCS Championship game.
Makkah
11-23-2007, 07:34 PM
I dunno... there were plenty of opportunities to call holding on that last drive...
Makkah
11-23-2007, 08:06 PM
Jesus... another one bites the dust.
...I don't know who I even want to lose anymore. Kansas is overrated as piss-balls. Mizzou... eh. OSU, maybe. I just don't know anymore.
RichardCranium
11-23-2007, 08:07 PM
It's for the best, I guess. The way teams are running on LSU they'd probably get embarressed in the NCG. They better focus on the SECCG and hope they don't see Georgia and Knowshon Moreno there.
Sean of the Thread
11-23-2007, 08:11 PM
Skeeter just creamed himself.
Gordd
11-23-2007, 08:11 PM
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK!! I'm not paying $300+ for fucking crawfish for just a regular damned bowl game.....FUCK!
Sean of the Thread
11-23-2007, 08:25 PM
Are they raw crawdads?
Sean of the Thread
11-23-2007, 08:30 PM
I went 1-1-1 today and 1-0 yesterday.
:( Profit but not what I was hoping for.
Gordd
11-23-2007, 08:42 PM
Are they raw crawdads?
Yeah, shipped live from my hometown. $135 per/30lbs ordered...I could easily eat 30lbs of boiled crawfish by myself...damned LSU!
Sean of the Thread
11-23-2007, 08:50 PM
U2U me where you order them from if you wouldn't mind. There's no place local to score them.
Gordd
11-23-2007, 09:19 PM
I was getting them through a local hook-up who doesn't normally ship overnight. His two sons and I grew up together and my family has bought all of our crawfish through him for the past 50+ years. There is one company I was looking at that is near my hometown that ships, I believe outta Branch, La. Probably be the best you can get without a local.
http://www.cajuncrawfish.com/catalog-list.cfm?Cat_Display=1&start=1
Though they don't offer SELECT and I'm not familiar with their product, they were the cheapest local for me to base price off of when I called Mike to have him ship to me.
RichardCranium
11-23-2007, 09:25 PM
What town are you from?
Gordd
11-23-2007, 09:26 PM
Breaux Bridge...Crawfish Capitol of the World!
RichardCranium
11-23-2007, 11:15 PM
I'm on the other side of the river. Denham Springs.
Hogs over the Tigers. :rofl: That was an insane game.
Aggies over the Tsips. WOOOOOOOOOOP!!!!
Skeeter
11-24-2007, 02:25 AM
3 weeks ago I said WVU v. OSU in the championship.
I don't like the match-up but I'll sure as hell take it.
I'm a huge Uconn and Boomer Sooner fan fo sho.
Makkah
11-25-2007, 04:36 PM
I guess $4 million can't buy you an Iron Bowl.
War Eagle.
Skeeter
11-25-2007, 05:28 PM
http://students.ou.edu/G/Taylor.R.Garrett-1/sooner%20schooner.gif
RichardCranium
11-25-2007, 06:30 PM
You'd better pray Mizzou wins. OSU doesn't want to see them OR WVU in the title game. The spread option Illinois runs is pretty good but it's nothing compared to what those two teams have. It would be worse than last year.
Skeeter
11-25-2007, 09:44 PM
Don't crai cuz your team can't beat bad teams.
I'd rather be the Bills than the Eagles. Except we already won one in 02.
Aaaand this is still a rebuilding year.
RichardCranium
11-25-2007, 10:15 PM
Don't crai cuz your team can't beat bad teams.
I'd rather be the Bills than the Eagles. Except we already won one in 02.
Aaaand this is still a rebuilding year.
There's no crying here, Jack. I already said that LSU would probably be embarressed if they had to play a team in the NCG with a spread option offense.
I guess you weren't watching when LSU won one in `03. ROFL at every single Suckeye fan's response of 'at least it's a rebuilding year!'. Y'all really are the most overbearing, arrogant and delusional fans in the nation. Great job on winning most of your games on a schedule slightly softer than Hawaii's and Kansas'.
Skeeter
11-25-2007, 10:28 PM
maybe you missed all the players that went pro last year.
I expect a horrid matchup against WVU. But I also expected a horrid match-up against Miami in 02
RichardCranium
11-25-2007, 10:36 PM
maybe you missed all the players that went pro last year.
Are you referring to the four first round picks LSU had?
Skeeter
11-25-2007, 10:54 PM
I never said LSU was bad. It would be tough to say that LSU was rebuilding due to players leaving as they were expected to be better this year than last. When you lose your Heisman QB, RB, both starting WRs, among others.
Maybe I wasn't clear on my Eagles / Bills comment. I meant I'd rather be in the NC and lose than be sitting out. Wasn't implying LSU in either comment.
I'm thrilled with the season however it plays out from this point.
RichardCranium
11-26-2007, 08:49 AM
I never said LSU was bad. It would be tough to say that LSU was rebuilding due to players leaving as they were expected to be better this year than last. When you lose your Heisman QB, RB, both starting WRs, among others.
Maybe I wasn't clear on my Eagles / Bills comment. I meant I'd rather be in the NC and lose than be sitting out. Wasn't implying LSU in either comment.
I'm thrilled with the season however it plays out from this point.
Okay, I misunderstood your post. My fault, I'm sorry.
Doughboy
12-01-2007, 05:49 PM
VA Tech with a great win. Awesome damn game.
RichardCranium
12-01-2007, 06:51 PM
Here's (http://www.moviewavs.com/php/sounds/?id=gog&media=WAVS&type=Movies&movie=Waterboy"e=ohnowesuckagain.txt&file=ohnowesuckagain.wav) a quote from an LSU fan at halftime today at the SEC Championship Game.
Anebriated
12-01-2007, 07:06 PM
lol
Skeeter
12-01-2007, 07:30 PM
You guys sure you don't want to send that coach to UM?
Gordd
12-01-2007, 07:32 PM
I'm not to big on his "must have a gimmick" in every single game, but otherwise I'm not complaining.
Skeeter
12-01-2007, 07:33 PM
Here's (http://www.moviewavs.com/php/sounds/?id=gog&media=WAVS&type=Movies&movie=Waterboy"e=ohnowesuckagain.txt&file=ohnowesuckagain.wav) a quote from an LSU fan at halftime today at the SEC Championship Game.
LOL
That's the accent that I hear in my head every time I read your posts.
Gordd
12-01-2007, 07:46 PM
LOL
That's the accent that I hear in my head every time I read your posts.
Ahh yes, the ever authentic jewish/filipino/cali cajun accent....
Who the hell was Perriloux throwing too????
Makkah
12-01-2007, 07:50 PM
...the guy that was there and broke his route off to go deep?
Gordd
12-01-2007, 07:58 PM
Pre-replay comment.
Gordd
12-01-2007, 08:23 PM
Heh...aren't I glad I didn't talk Zenon into joining the Navy.
RichardCranium
12-01-2007, 08:52 PM
LOL
That's the accent that I hear in my head every time I read your posts.
Where I'm at there are less cajuns and more rednecks.
RichardCranium
12-01-2007, 10:27 PM
The reports this morning were that Coach Miles and Georgia Tech's Coach Jon Tenuta would be leaving to coach at Michigan. With the news that Coach Miles will be staying in Baton Rouge and Bo Pelini leaving for Nebraska what do you think the chances are that Tenuta will be in Baton Rouge next year?
Sean of the Thread
12-01-2007, 10:49 PM
Miles pulls a Saban.
Doughboy
12-01-2007, 11:10 PM
Man, West Virginia looks really bad without Pat White playing. Like I mean really really bad. BCS title game is starting to slip away from them at the start of the 4th.
Sean of the Thread
12-01-2007, 11:17 PM
Man, West Virginia looks really bad without Pat White playing. Like I mean really really bad. BCS title game is starting to slip away from them at the start of the 4th.
They always look bad. One of the more overrated teams of the year.
I'm glad they're in true form tonight. Nobody really wanted to see a shitty WVU team in the title game.
Team Pornstache rolls.
Sean of the Thread
12-01-2007, 11:23 PM
Anybody catch the end of the Oregon game!?!?
Fucking hilarious. Like watching benny hill.
Doughboy
12-01-2007, 11:23 PM
Anybody catch the end of the Oregon game!?!?
Fucking hilarious. Like watching benny hill.
Stupid call from the Oregon coaches at the end of that.
Sean of the Thread
12-01-2007, 11:24 PM
Oh btw I'm loving the QQ faces in the WVU Mountaintears crowd. This is making my day.
Doughboy
12-01-2007, 11:25 PM
They always look bad. One of the more overrated teams of the year.
I'm glad they're in true form tonight. Nobody really wanted to see a shitty WVU team in the title game.
Team Pornstache rolls.
And right after I read that, Brown drops the ball. Jesus. OSU vs. Missouri or Georgia is starting to look like a reality now.
Sean of the Thread
12-01-2007, 11:26 PM
Stupid call from the Oregon coaches at the end of that.
Yeah no shit.. I couldn't believe it. Most 13 year olds with a ps2 could make a better decision than that.
Doughboy
12-01-2007, 11:26 PM
Oh btw I'm loving the QQ faces in the WVU Mountaintears crowd. This is making my day.
Did you see the kid drop his sign after the Pitt TD? NEW ORLEANS!! Oh shit dropped it?!
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