College Football

[Makkah]

Holy fucking UCal?

[Sean of the Thread]

Wow....they're gonna fucking blow it.

Cincy might lose to Louisville...


This fucking year rocks.

[Makkah]

This year HAS been awesome for underdogs.

[Sean of the Thread]

This year HAS been awesome for underdogs.

So says my bank account.

[TheEschaton]

Wow, what a crazy mistake.

And it's not BC's fault that the rest of the ACC sucks.

[Makkah]

So... UCal lost? I just saw it flash... what happened?

[TheEschaton]

Cal got it on their 6 with 86 seconds left on the clock. Drove all the way to the 12, had first down with 12 seconds left.

They tried to go for the win, the redshirt freshman QB, in for their starter, was flushed out of the pocket, ran it up the middle, and got tackled....time ran out, OSU wins.

Edit: This is when they could have just kicked it on first down from the 19 (for a 29 yard field goal) for the tie to send it to OT).

[RichardCranium]

I don't know but Auburn's about to.

[Solkern]

Redshirt QBs FTL

[Makkah]

Yea, that phantom PI call killed us.

[Solkern]

Yeah that PI call was complete bullshit, I saw no contact, i was like wtf you serious?

[Sean of the Thread]

fucking wow.

BCS is going to be FUXORED this year.

[RichardCranium]

I forgot to mention this earlier. Terrance Tolliver for Heisman in `09.

[Solkern]

Yeah the BC is going to be royally screwed, I mean seriously OSU VS BC in the championship game? WTF lol

[RichardCranium]

The BCS computers are going to hate BC and Oklahoma. OSU and LSU or USC.

[Makkah]

Awesome D, Arkansas... 2 TOs left?

[Sean of the Thread]

I think BCS melts BC... strength of schedule.

[TheEschaton]

Isn't it calculated based on the opponent's ranking when you play them? Cause both Wake Forest and G-Tech were ranked when we played them.

-TheE-

[Sean of the Thread]

http://www.collegebcs.com/bcsfaq.html

[Makkah]

I don't know but Auburn's about to.

What was that? Don't be made because you got beat :)

[RichardCranium]

Good luck next week. Y'all are gonna need it.

[Makkah]

We'll see what's up.

[Sean of the Thread]

Yes we will.

One thing is for sure.... I fucking love Saturdays.

[Makkah]

Yes we will.

One thing is for sure.... I fucking love Saturdays.

God damn serious truth. NFL nothin. NCAA got that fire.

[Sean of the Thread]

By far.

[TheEschaton]

God damn serious truth. NFL nothin. NCAA got that fire.

Seriously, what's the problem with throwing in a few verbs and articles?

[That is some] God damn serious truth. [The] NFL [is] nothin[g]. [The] NCAA [has] that fire.

[Makkah]

...because this is a message board? [Is there something wrong with you?]

EDIT to say: BC... lol. Also, don't discount the use of my verb "got" in the final sentence. At least quote correctly, please.

[Skeeter]

Let me be the first to introduce the #1 OSU Buckeyes.

Though the game in 2 weeks is the only one left on the schedule that scares me.

[TheEschaton]

Exactly, it's a message board. No one cares about your supposed thugness, and you don't have a rep to keep up here, except that of a jackass IG and OOG.

By the way, how's your team doing?

[Makkah]

My team? 5-2, 3-1 in the SEC with a non-conference loss to USF. You do know what that means, right? Next?

EDIT: You sound extremely ass-hurt for supporting a team that's 7-0. Is something the matter, buttercup?

[TheEschaton]

Nope, just annoyed by your constant attempt to be a thug on a fucking message board. No one cares. Find another rap album avatar.

[Warriorbird]

Given that he's got a post graduate education...why do you care if he wants to talk that way?

[Makkah]

Sounds like vapors to me. What a sorry [piece of post-graduate] shit.

[Solkern]

Given that he's got a post graduate education...why do you care if he wants to talk that way?

and you know this for a fact?

[Makkah]

He knows my full name; he knows how to use Google. It's probably a safe bet.

[Solkern]

WOW!
He knows your full name and he has google???

Go ahead and google me, and you'll find nothing

Once again, these are forums, Who the fuck knows if your blowing shit out your ass.

kthxsbye

[Makkah]

You sound like you're reaching now, dude.

(Learn to use the contraction "you're")

[Solkern]

No it sounds like your reaching

"he knows my full name, and he has google"

What kinda lame shit is that.

I'm not claiming you don't have a degree, I'm not claiming you do, But saying he knows your first name and has google means it's a "safe bet"?

stfu dude

[Tsa`ah]

It's not as if I'd ever defend Makkah as I'd consider him many things ... just not a liar.

I believe he's a pharmacist ... which can't be done as an undergrad.

You on the other hand, I have a hard time believing most things you post.

[Solkern]

You sound like you're reaching now, dude.

(Learn to use the contraction "you're")

and way to go!!!

"damn he got me, so i'll point out his contraction errors"

[Solkern]

It's not as if I'd ever defend Makkah as I'd consider him many things ... just not a liar.

I believe he's a pharmacist ... which can't be done as an undergrad.

Tsa'ah, and I'm not arguing that at all, good for him, but him basing his claims "He knows my full name and has google" is utter bullshit

[Makkah]

Given that he's got a post graduate education...why do you care if he wants to talk that way?

Him knowing my full name means he could verify these facts. Stop being retarded, Solkern. You're not only coming off as an obsessive douchebag, you're coming off as Corky's same-infliction brother.

[Warriorbird]

:chuckles: I've even seen pictures of the poor bastard in high school. I've flirted with a friend of his girlfriend. He's one of the folks in this place I've known the longest.

If I didn't just pretty much automatically type with grammar included I probably wouldn't worry about my sentence construction. It's an Internet message board, hey.

On topic, this is a great season to get into college football. Nothing is certain.

[Tsa`ah]

Tsa'ah, and I'm not arguing that at all, good for him, but him basing his claims "He knows my full name and has google" is utter bullshit

As I've said, I consider Makkah many things, just no a liar.

He's not the one that brought up his education and I believe he's only mentioned an internship once a year or so back.

People know him and vouch for him .... he doesn't do it himself.

[Makkah]

Yea... I'm not in this topic to confirm myself. Let's get back to fucking college football.

Will a 1 (+?) loss team win the championships yet again?

[Solkern]

Yeah, I bet you OU will jump BC if they stay on course

[Tsa`ah]

Will a 1 (+?) loss team win the championships yet again?

I prefer college sports to professional ... but when it comes to football it makes my eyes bleed.

It's understandable when an undefeated team isn't declared the champion because they didn't have any competition, but consistently ranked undefeated teams getting passed over by a team with 1-2 losses is a joke.

Put in a post season and let's have some play-offs.

[Solkern]

I prefer college sports to professional ... but when it comes to football it makes my eyes bleed.

It's understandable when an undefeated team isn't declared the champion because they didn't have any competition, but consistently ranked undefeated teams getting passed over by a team with 1-2 losses is a joke.

Put in a post season and let's have some play-offs.

I'd love a playoff, but won't happen, too much money will be lost

[Makkah]

Yea... hate to say it, playoffs will never come. It seems like an awesome idea to move each bowl to a certain playoff game, but moving collegiate athletes to 4+ extra games just makes the NCAA cringe with injury possibilities and, yea, money loss.

[Solkern]

Without playoffs, makes the regular season mean much much much more, then any other sport with a playoff, as you could possibly play "sub par" and still win the championship

[Makkah]

That's true. And it really sucks when teams with garbage schedules get to the top 10 because they're undefeated. ::coughBCcoughHawaiicough::

[Solkern]

That's true. And it really sucks when teams with garbage schedules get to the top 10 because they're undefeated. ::coughBCcoughHawaiicough::


so true

[TheEschaton]

Listen, the ACC is usually a very competitive conference, as is Notre Dame...usually. You forget we had the best record in our division of the ACC last year, and lost the ACC semis to G-Tech, who lost to Wake, both of whom we've beaten this year.

-TheE-

[Makkah]

Oh, it's not your team's fault they have a garbage schedule.

[Solkern]

I'd consider VT a good team :P

[Makkah]

I, personally, don't consider V-Tech very good from what I've seen. Their record does look okay, but the only OKAY team they've played was a sub-par Clemson (look at who they've played).

I AM, however, looking forward to the 10-25 V-Tech/BC game. Then one of the two may get my respect. Maybe.

[Skeeter]

I disagree that money would be lost with a playoff system

[Solkern]

The BCS has a TV deal through 2009 and the Rose Bowl has one through 2013, so we will probably have to wait until at least then. I do not think we will see one until the non-BCS bowls start to dry up and go away. I am not talking about bowls like the New Orleans Bowl or the Las Vegas Bowl, but more like the Capital One (formerly Citrus) or Outback bowls. Right now, there is no incentive for the big schools to create one. They get just about all their bowl-eligible teams into postseason football. There is not a playoff format that will put eight SEC teams (for example) into the postseason.
Also, right now, they have this big pile of money from the BCS that they share among themselves. If there is a playoff, the pile of money might be bigger, but the wealth would get shared more evenly. Why would the big schools go for that?

There are several economic and political challenges to creating a playoff besides the one I just mentioned. The biggest political roadblock is that university presidents do not want one. Since the presidents run the NCAA, it is going to be a pretty hard sell to get one going. There has been no indication that the presidents are softening on this issue.

I think it is more likely that we will go back to the old system, where the Big Ten and Pac 10 champions played in the Rose Bowl no matter what, than see the creation of any sort of true playoff


Why a college football playoff wouldn't work

• Would gut, if not destroy, the traditional bowl system, which allows 56 teams — almost half those in NCAA Division I-A — to stamp their seasons a success by reaching the postseason.

• Could diminish interest in the regular season. College football's is the most meaningful and drama-filled in sports. With no playoff and only two teams qualifying for a final shot at the national championship, there is so little margin for error that every game from late August to early December is vital.

• The college game would become even more commercialized and professionalized.

• A 16-team, four-round playoff would be during many final exams and extend the season into the second semester. Players would be harder-pressed to be students.



Taken from two different sources

[Makkah]

Those points sound about right. I am curious the citations, though.

[TheEschaton]

Speaking of athletes being unable to be students: We're smarter than you too. (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=dw-bostoncollege101007&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)

[Makkah]

I'm not discrediting BC here, but if you actually read the article, there is a ridiculous amount of bias and retardedly written shit in there...

[TheEschaton]

What bias? That he happens to think BC athletes are smarter? It seems they are. It would be bias if he was from BC, but I can't seem to figure out where he went to school.

And even if it is retardedly written - it's true. W00t.

[Skeeter]

take 8 teams to the playoffs. Have the bowls for the teams that didn't make it in.

Play the championship at one of the major bowls rotating each year.

[Drew]

take 8 teams to the playoffs. Have the bowls for the teams that didn't make it in.

Play the championship at one of the major bowls rotating each year.


Exactly, it's incredibly simple. This results in a total of 3 more games than we have now. Two semi's, and one championship. Four teams play one extra game per season. Two teams play 2 extra games.

[Makkah]

I'll assume you read it. Obviously you're biased yourself, so take a step outside the box and read it.

[Drew]

After college ball today the already terrible NFL schedule tomorrow looks even worse. Pats-Cowboys is the only saving grace.

[Apathy]

Listen, the ACC is usually a very competitive conference
Uhm...

as is Notre Dame...usually.
Eh?

You forget we had the best record in our division of the ACC last year
Ok...

and lost the ACC semis to G-Tech
Er..

, who lost to Wake, both of whom we've beaten this year.

-TheE-
Oi.

[Drew]

Depending on the year the ACC is anywhere from the first to fourth best conference.

[Drew]

Fake Lou Holtz pep talk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMPImwEHZqc

That's about the only good thing to come out a real Lou Holtz pep talk which is overtaking any segment with Chris Berman in it as my most hated part of watching football.


Edit: Also it might not be a good year for Miami football but it's a great year for Miami chest hair:

http://miamisportsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/u-chest-msb2.jpg

[Tsa`ah]

33 bowl games (not including the seniors bowl), 12 conferences, 2 divisions .... it doesn't take a math geek to convert this into a post season playoff.

[RichardCranium]

Ohio State should definitely not be number 1.

Youngstown State
Akron
Washington
Northwestern
Minnesota
Purdue
Kent

Edited to add: I think it should be USF.

[Skeeter]

and they've crushed every one of them. They're the only team that's been consistent week in and week out.

We'll see if they're the real deal in 2 weeks.

but if you honestly think south florida is the best team in the country you're an idiot.

[RichardCranium]

Anyone could crush every one of them. That's a fucking pathetic schedule.

I said I thought USF should be number 1. I don't think they're the best team in college football.

[Sean of the Thread]

USF just might end up #1 today.

That fake Holtz pep talk.. hilarious. However the real ones are retarded as well.



Playoffs = way less money and more injuries. Not gonna happen.

[RichardCranium]

AP Top 25

1. Ohio State (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=194) (50) 7-0 1,599
2. South Florida (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=58) (11) 6-0 1,503
3. Boston College (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=103) (1) 7-0 1,448
4. Oklahoma (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=201) (1) 6-1 1,399
5. LSU (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=99) (1) 6-1 1,331
6. South Carolina (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=2579) 6-1 1,247
7. Oregon (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=2483) 5-1 1,177
8. Kentucky (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=96) 6-1 1,098
9. West Virginia (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=277) 5-1 1,090
10. California (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=25) 5-1 1,065
11. Virginia Tech (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=259) 6-1 951
12. Arizona State (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=9) (1) 7-0 948
13. USC (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=30) 5-1 932
14. Florida (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=57) 4-2 865
15. Kansas (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=2305) 6-0 664
15. Missouri (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=142) 5-1 664
17. Hawaii (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=62) 7-0 551
18. Auburn (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=2) 5-2 488
19. Texas (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=251) 5-2 348
20. Tennessee (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=2633) 4-2 339
21. Georgia (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=61) 5-2 279
22. Texas Tech (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=2641) 6-1 241
23. Cincinnati (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=2132) 6-1 194
24. Michigan (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=130) 5-2 189
25. Kansas State (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=2306) 4-2 107

USA Today Poll

1. Ohio State (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=194) (56) 7-0 1,495
2. Boston College (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=103) (1) 7-0 1,383
3. South Florida (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=58) (3) 6-0 1,320
4. Oklahoma (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=201) 6-1 1,288
5. LSU (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=99) 6-1 1,173
6. Oregon (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=2483) 5-1 1,077
7. West Virginia (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=277) 5-1 1,007
8. South Carolina (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=2579) 6-1 997
9. California (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=25) 5-1 983
9. USC (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=30) 5-1 983
11. Virginia Tech (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=259) 6-1 982
12. Arizona State (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=9) 7-0 936
13. Kentucky (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=96) 6-1 874
14. Florida (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=57) 4-2 726
15. Kansas (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=2305) 6-0 705
16. Hawaii (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=62) 7-0 558
17. Missouri (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=142) 5-1 519
18. Texas (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=251) 5-2 396
19. Auburn (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=2) 5-2 372
20. Georgia (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=61) 5-2 282
21. Texas Tech (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=2641) 6-1 232
22. Tennessee (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=2633) 4-2 193
23. Cincinnati (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=2132) 6-1 192
24. Virginia (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=258) 6-1 184
25. Penn State (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=213) 5-2 128

No BCS yet.

[TheEschaton]

I hear BCS is only coming out tomorrow?

Interesting, #2.5 for both USF and BC.

[Makkah]

Fucking glad Hawaii didn't move up. They looked like piss-n-balls

[Latrinsorm]

rofl pretty hard at Michigan being ranked anywhere again.

[Sean of the Thread]

Nice.

USF actually got 11 votes for first place.
Gators highest ranked 2 loss team.
COCKS up to eighth.

[RichardCranium]

I hear BCS is only coming out tomorrow?

Today at 3:15 central on Fox.

[Makkah]

Well no real surprises:

5 Oklahoma
4 LSU
3 BC
2 USF
1 OSU

Arizona State was 8th, which is pretty crazy

[RichardCranium]

Ohio State



South Florida



Boston College



LSU



Oklahoma



South Carolina



Kentucky



Arizona State



West Virginia



Oregon



Virginia Tech


California

Kansas

Southern California

Florida

Missouri

Auburn

Hawaii

Virginia

Georgia

Tennessee

Texas

Cincinatti

Texas Tech

Michigan

[Sean of the Thread]

OSU will not last long up there with the cupcake schedule.


In the meantime... USF IN THE HIZZY.

[RichardCranium]

I figure BC to lose to VT too.

[TheEschaton]

You figure insanely.

[allen]

helllll yea, michigan is back! ;) and no OSU won't last up there once michigan whups them at the end of the year

[stallion4]

helllll yea, michigan is back! ;) and no OSU won't last up there once michigan whups them at the end of the year

...

wrong.

[TheEschaton]

God, I can't stop staring at your avatar.

[stallion4]

God, I can't stop staring at your avatar.

Vida hates Boston College.

It's true.

[Skeeter]

helllll yea, michigan is back! ;) and no OSU won't last up there once michigan whups them at the end of the year

Have you even watched Michigan play this year?

[allen]

Have you even watched Michigan play this year?

clearly being sarcastic lol, they suck, I'm not one of them in denial fans

[Skeeter]

I've met 50 that are that dillusional

[Drew]

If Mike Hart and Jake Long are playing they have a chance. I don't know how bad Hart is hurt. I'm excited for Jake Long playing for the Dolphins next year.

[Sean of the Thread]

SEC looks hugely over rated this year. consistant home losses to no name opponents.



Lol You're funny.

Calling USF a no name might be one of the most retarded things that you've posted.


Bump

[thefarmer]

Now if only USC can sit in the top 10 this year BCS I'll be one happy mofo.. If they stay 6th even better.

USC being University of South Carolina. Not that garbage University of Southern California.

[Sean of the Thread]

I actually sported my COCKS shirt to the bar today.

Mostly because I'm too fat for my USF shirts now days. My gator gear is all fucked up with stains and shit.. okay to wear to games but not to a restaurant.

That and I won't wear NFL gear.

[TheEschaton]

Everything I own already says BC on it already. There's free t-shirts for every single organization.

[Skeeter]

I dunno, losing to KY in football is like losing to USC in basketball. Doesn't say a whole lot for the dominant SEC and those paper Tigers.

South Florida will NOT play in the championship. I 100% guarantee it. Call it my stone cold lead pipe lock.

[Doughboy]

I'm going to laugh my ass off if USF plays OSU in the title game. It's not like OSU has much chance losing against the joke teams they play for the rest of the season. USF has a pretty good chance of beating who they play. BC's got a tough game this weekened against VT. If they lose that one...I'd say LSU still has a big shot at jumping into the BCS title game.

[Doughboy]

I dunno, losing to KY in football is like losing to USC in basketball. Doesn't say a whole lot for the dominant SEC and those paper Tigers..

The problem with the SEC as great as it is. The teams in the conference always play each other at a high level and end up killing the shot at an SEC team winning the title (Yes, I realize Florida won it last year).

[Skeeter]

if another conference beats up on each other it's because they all suck, if the SEC beats up on each other it's because they're all so good.

ROFL

[Makkah]

The top 25 speaks for itself, Skeeter.

[Sean of the Thread]

Teeee heeee.

[Skeeter]

USF is #2 and BC is #3. You're right the top 25 does speak for itself.

[RichardCranium]

I dunno, losing to KY in football is like losing to USC in basketball. Doesn't say a whole lot for the dominant SEC and those paper Tigers.

South Florida will NOT play in the championship. I 100% guarantee it. Call it my stone cold lead pipe lock.

You mean number 7 Kentucky? Yeah, that's a travesty. If I had to choose right now I'd say either LSU vs. USF or LSU vs. OK.




if another conference beats up on each other it's because they all suck, if the SEC beats up on each other it's because they're all so good.

ROFL

The SEC has 7 teams in the top 21, need I say more? I don't know what you're so butthurt about anyway, OSU made it to the top on name recognition alone. You should be feeling pretty happy about that.

[Skeeter]

I'll concede that OSU had a week schedule, (this was supposed to be a rebuilding year) They've blown out every team they've played. I don't know if they're good enough to run the table but they certainly have a defense good enough to give them a chance.

[chillmonster]

The Big X is garbage this year. OSU will likely run the table then get taken behind the woodshed by LSU in the NC game. If USF ends up in winning it all, SEC reps will grow a backbone and try to force a playoff or some kind of +1 format in the next few years.

[Skeeter]

I'm not too worried about LSU after watching their last 2 games.

[RichardCranium]

I guess those quality wins have really got y'alls confidence up. Do you really believe OSU could go 3-1 against VT, South Carolina, Florida and Kentucky?

[Makkah]

HEY... You're forgetting someone.

[Skeeter]

Yes but we'd have to go for it on 4th down 7x instead of 6.

[Apathy]

I love it how we can argue NCAAF until we're blue in the face. Never admit your team/conference is overrated this year!

Oklahoma is the best team in the country this year, btw.

[thefarmer]

I dunno.

I've said the only reason my team (Univ. of SC) is ranked that high is because everyone that's supposed to have been hot shit has sucked.

I can safely say they're at least a top 15 team though.

[stallion4]

If USF runs the table I'd be VERY impressed. I think OSU can go undefeated simply because they have a good defense and they don't really play anyone. But being #1 nowadays seems like a curse. That being said..OSU vs Michigan can be a game no matter how bad either team is. Look at Auburn vs. Florida..anything can happen.

I know one thing..USF's recruiting team has to be in their glory. Having these young Florida studs seeing this team in a national title hunt definately helps them pull kids towards USF instead of shittyass Miami and maybe even FSU. Good for them. It's nice to see a program come so far in what? 11 years? I'm very impressed.

Edited to add: College football is the greatest sport in the world. Saturday's can't get here soon enough.

[Sean of the Thread]

It's very impressive to run the table in any BCS conference I don't care who you are.

[stallion4]

It's very impressive to run the table in any BCS conference I don't care who you are.

Agreed. Could be a good one Thursday. Those big east games always seem to be pretty good on Thursday nights.

[chillmonster]

The Big East teams may match up well against Big X school because of the BIg X's problem with interior speed, but teams in the SEC would DRAG them. If you believe WV, Rutgers, or USF could play Auburn, UF, UGA, LSU, SC, and UT and come out with less than 3 losses, you're crazy as hell.

I love college football, but I hate that there isn't a playoff. It's fairly likely that the best team in the country will not win the NC this year.

[Sean of the Thread]

I love the SEC.. that being said USF seriously beats anyone in it this year on a neutral field.

I'm just afraid Leavitt will finally get bought out after this season. Shit Alabama has been trying to give him 4 million a year.. when do you say fuck my prodigy 11 year upstart and take the lottery money??

Gotta pick.. soon. Dynasty or $$$$$$.


USF just doesn't have the booster money the old boy schools do despite being one of the largest universities in the nation.

[Makkah]

Sellout, what?

http://digitalheadbutt.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/nick-saban.jpg

[Skeeter]

I love the SEC.. that being said USF seriously beats anyone in it this year on a neutral field.

I'm just afraid Leavitt will finally get bought out after this season. Shit Alabama has been trying to give him 4 million a year.. when do you say fuck my prodigy 11 year upstart and take the lottery money??

Gotta pick.. soon. Dynasty or $$$$$$.


USF just doesn't have the booster money the old boy schools do despite being one of the largest universities in the nation.


Racist ND should be looking for a coach soon. They won't be though.

[Sean of the Thread]

Fuck ND

[Skeeter]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a358/borch23/image001.jpg

[stallion4]

Cute story..for 4 days.

[Makkah]

^

[Doughboy]

Being in the top five is a mistake this year. OSU will probably lose to the Ohio Womens Minimum Security Correctional Facility before the year ends.

[Skeeter]

Thank you Rutgers for the $100 I can claim from my bookie.

Back to being no names. You had a good run you silly upstarts.

[Skeeter]

I'm a HUGE OSU fan and I predict a loss next week at PSU. and then I will cry in my beer.

[Doughboy]

So much for "Survival Saturday." Freakin teams deep in the top 15 still have a shot at the BCS as fast as teams are losing this year.

[TheEschaton]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA BC #2 IN THE NATION.

FIUCK YOU FUCKERTARDs.

[Makkah]

After an idle week and beating the powerhouse of ND...

[Drew]

I especially hope DREW is enjoying the UNC game as much as I am.


Enjoy the season sucker.



I hope SEAN2 enjoyed the USF game as much as I did!

Enjoy the season sucker.

[stallion4]

I love the SEC.. that being said USF seriously beats anyone in it this year on a neutral field.

They got mauled by the front 7 of Rutgers..good luck with the SEC. They looked like shit. Rutgers handed them 3 turnovers that should have easily cost them the game. That team isn't even close to the top 10-15 in the country.

[Drew]

It was pretty clear they were bad when they played WVU so terribly. WVU is bad too.

[Doughboy]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA BC #2 IN THE NATION.

FIUCK YOU FUCKERTARDs.

BC visits Blacksburg next week. They may well be number two for all of a couple days.

[RichardCranium]

I hope SEAN2 enjoyed the USF game as much as I did!

Enjoy the season sucker.

He has like seven other teams to root for so it's all good.

[Sean of the Thread]

I am enjoying the season very much thanks. Last nights game was fucking awesome.

The NCAA to me is.. well how do I put this into words... it's beautiful...it's magical.. it's laughing with me...I wish I could brush me teeth with it... I want to put my dick in it.. I want it to put it's dick in me...I wish it was winter we could make it into ice and skate on it and then melt it in the spring time and drink it.


Gators USF Rutgers SYRACUSE ORANGE and Steve Spurrier are the teams I follow closer than others from a fan aspect however I will goto ANY game when possible and watch ANY game when possible. Pretty easy to understand.

[Sean of the Thread]

Oh p.s. What's making this season greater than most is how much MIAMI sucks. They only thing they can beat is each others cocks.

[Celephais]

I want it to put it's dick in me...
To be used, out of context, later.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u222/GuinnessKMF/You.jpg

[Doughboy]

Oh p.s. What's making this season greater than most is how much MIAMI sucks. They only thing they can beat is each others cocks.

I hope your colon falls out.


And you know as well as I do things are going to change once Shannon gets to recruit his people. But a better bonus is KYLE WRIGHT LEAVING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sean of the Thread]

I > than you nubbles at NCAA. Awesome 5 for 5 night.

I dub tonight new PLASMA TV NIGHT!

Date placed:
Oct 19, 2007 6:51p
Date settled:
Oct 19, 2007 11:04p
2 Team Parlay # xxxx
Football - College Lines (Game) Pointspread
(305) Northwestern -10 (-115) Fri@7:00p
Final Scores
Northwestern 26
Eastern Michigan 14

Football - College Lines (Game) Moneyline
(308) U Connecticut +140 Fri@8:00p
Final Scores
Louisville 17
U Connecticut 21
Outcome:Win

Date placed:
Oct 19, 2007 7:53p
Date settled:
Oct 19, 2007 11:04p
Single # xxxx
Football - College Lines (Game) Total
(307) Louisville vs. (308) U Connecticut Under 57 Fri@8:00p
Final Scores
Louisville 17
U Connecticut 21
Outcome:Win

Date placed:
Oct 19, 2007 9:24p
Date settled:
Oct 19, 2007 11:04p
Single # xxx
Football - College Halftimes (2H) Pointspread
(308) U Connecticut Pick (+110) Fri@9:30p

Final Scores
Louisville 10
U Connecticut 21
Outcome:Win

Date placed:
Oct 19, 2007 7:53p
Date settled:
Oct 19, 2007 11:04p

Single # xxxxx
Football - College Lines (Game) Pointspread
(308) U Connecticut +3½ (-115) Fri@8:00p
Final Scores
Louisville 17
U Connecticut 21
Outcome:Win

Date placed:
Oct 19, 2007 6:53p
Date settled:
Oct 19, 2007 10:39p

Single # xx
Football - College Lines (Game) Pointspread
(305) Northwestern -10 (-115) Fri@7:00p
Final Scores
Northwestern 26
Eastern Michigan 14

Outcome:Win

[Drew]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FrzaTpIoAe0


I've been looking forward to this for months! This week has gone by excruciatingly slow. Only a few short hours until true jubilation or my week being ruined.

[Doughboy]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FrzaTpIoAe0


I've been looking forward to this for months! This week has gone by excruciatingly slow. Only a few short hours until true jubilation or my week being ruined.

I hope I don't have to look like the "Crying Oklahoma Kid" after this one... :( We can lose every game for the rest of the year as long as we beat FSU. Fucking Kyle Wright and Kirby Freeman have me scared.... Also, rofl at Sebastian breaking the Nole spear. I was at that game.

WIDE FUCKING RIGHT! x2 and x3!

Edited to add: I fucking love the fact that my kids came in on me watching that video and started screaming Go Canes! Gimme five dad! I've got the coolest 4 year old daughters on the planet. Fuck dolls and stuff, it's football season.

[Doughboy]

Jesus christ. Looking at some of those videos made me realize what stupid fast is again...

[Sean of the Thread]

MIA/FSU game great stuff as usual even if it doesn't have the usual implications.

ORAAAAANGE MEN worst team in football just stomped down 99 yards for score. Great stuff.


I could keep typing for an hour prolly with all the goody goody going on today.

[Doughboy]

MIA/FSU game great stuff as usual even if it doesn't have the usual implications.

ORAAAAANGE MEN worst team in football just stomped down 99 yards for score. Great stuff.


I could keep typing for an hour prolly with all the goody goody going on today.

Unreal finish. At least now I can be happy for the remainder of this season.

[Drew]

YEAH! So amped right now! What a great game, Kirby Freeman looked like ass the entire time after he came in for Wright and then he goes 3/3 on REALLY hard passes for the go-ahead, getting his ribs broke in the process. I knew this would be a rebuilding year, I'm totally satisfied now. We beat FSU and we get to look forward to Robert Marve or Jacory Harris at QB next year! It's too bad Marve got hurt and had to redshirt, otherwise we would probably play him the last 2 or 3 games a la Kenny Dorsey.

[Doughboy]

YEAH! So amped right now! What a great game, Kirby Freeman looked like ass the entire time after he came in for Wright and then he goes 3/3 on REALLY hard passes for the go-ahead, getting his ribs broke in the process. I knew this would be a rebuilding year, I'm totally satisfied now. We beat FSU and we get to look forward to Robert Marve or Jacory Harris at QB next year! It's too bad Marve got hurt and had to redshirt, otherwise we would probably play him the last 2 or 3 games a la Kenny Dorsey.

Yeah. I was shocked that Freeman did that. Those were the best three passes of his career. And he got jacked on that TD pass. But FSU is doneski for another year. Thank god, no more Kyle Wright of Kirby Freeman in UM uniforms after this season.

[Drew]

Well Kirby is a junior, I just can't see him starting next year. Unless someone teaches him how to throw a football in the next 8 months.

[Drew]

Actual Nick Saban quote regarding Alabama's 3 TDs on 8 red zone trips: "You need to finish every job you start."


LULLLLLZ!

[Doughboy]

Actual Nick Saban quote regarding Alabama's 3 TDs on 8 red zone trips: "You need to finish every job you start."


LULLLLLZ!


The aptly titled "Raging Fraud" strikes again.

[RichardCranium]

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k15/troydenh/tbow1.jpg

[Doughboy]

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k15/troydenh/tbow1.jpg

I guess right about now you're wondering why the Tigers aren't going...

...Auburn by 10 at the half...

[thefarmer]

I need Methais's Worfhead right now..

Of all the teams.. FUCKING VANDERBILT??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

We should be kicked out of the SEC and forced to muddle through the ACC for punishment.

Bowl game what?

[RichardCranium]

I guess right about now you're wondering why the Tigers aren't going...

...Auburn by 10 at the half...

We were down by 10 at the half when we played Florida, I'm not that concerned.

[Axhinde]

Yeah, congrats on scoring with a minute left to win. Any team that relies on last minute failures from the opposing team definetly deserves to be ranked #1(during the time of the game). Not that Florida is any better. I'm a Gator fan and both losses this season, while close and during the final minute, are completely disappointing. Oh well, a bowl game with be nice but not as nice as a repeat.

[Doughboy]

Yeah, congrats on scoring with a minute left to win. Any team that relies on last minute failures from the opposing team definetly deserves to be ranked #1(during the time of the game). Not that Florida is any better. I'm a Gator fan and both losses this season, while close and during the final minute, are completely disappointing. Oh well, a bowl game with be nice but not as nice as a repeat.

They've got a shot at the SEC title still. Thats more important than just a bowl game. :)

[Sean of the Thread]

SEC championship ftw.

[Axhinde]

That's true, though the USF game has me all ate up.

[Drew]

They've got a shot at the SEC title still. Thats more important than just a bowl game. :)

Yeah, during a bowl game they might get matched against Miami. Florida's worst nightmare.

[RichardCranium]

Props to Auburn for trying to end the career of LSU's best player. You fucking wankers.

[RichardCranium]

Yeah, congrats on scoring with a minute left to win. Any team that relies on last minute failures from the opposing team definetly deserves to be ranked #1(during the time of the game). Not that Florida is any better. I'm a Gator fan and both losses this season, while close and during the final minute, are completely disappointing. Oh well, a bowl game with be nice but not as nice as a repeat.

Sour grapes. Lucking out by being in the *weak SEC East doesn't give you the right to talk shit about a team that beat you.


*Our weak division will whip your best team's ass.

[Axhinde]

No, but being the defending BCS champs does.

[Doughboy]

No, but being the defending BCS champs does.

That hope aint gone yet either man. It's been a crazy fucking season.

[Makkah]

2nd half melt-down. I was waiting for it.

War Eagle.

Note: You have to have 7 men on the line of scrimmage. Just saying.

[Makkah]

Also... the block was dirty, but if you think dirty blocks like that don't happen on every 3 plays... you're retarded.

[Axhinde]

That hope aint gone yet either man. It's been a crazy fucking season.

Crazy season or not, this is college football. 2 losses, especially to ranked teams, won't get you a title shot. It isn't over yet, you're right, but the Florida defense isn't exactly spectacular.

[Doughboy]

God damn what a set of balls on Les Miles...

What an unreal fucking call...that was borderline stupidity at the end....

[RichardCranium]

No gloating because of the favorable spot but I'll leave you with this image.

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k15/troydenh/lesmilespetsquirrel1.jpg

[Makkah]

Good Call. Not making excuses at all, we got beat... however...


I AM biased, but trying to watch the WHOLE game very closely, the Officials made some really bad spot calls. It's a shame that we were the butt of the last really bad spot call.

Edited to say: At least you acknowledge one of the many really bad spots.

[RichardCranium]

Good Call. Not making excuses at all, we got beat... however...


I AM biased, but trying to watch the WHOLE game very closely, the Officials made some really bad spot calls. It's a shame that we were the butt of the last really bad spot call.

Not to bring up old shit but you DO remember that no call at the end of last year's game, don't you? Remember what you told me?

[Axhinde]

It was still a great game.

[Makkah]

Also...

It does take 7 guys on the line of scrimmage to make the play work.

[Makkah]

Upon whole-game reflection... congrats to LSU. Good game; good win.

[Drew]

Great game, terrible call at the end but ended up being more exciting for the fans. Terrible spot for Auburn, that could have changed the whole game. Whoever the assistant coach who watches the TV feed to know when to challenge is didn't do his job.

[Makkah]

Yea. I find it disturbing that it "hasn't been Auburn's style" to challenge shit like that throughout the year.

[Doughboy]

I was wondering why he didn't use that challenge right there...Boggles the mind. But hey, what can you do about it now. I don't think anybody expected that stupid ass call from Miles...

[Warriorbird]

Crazy stuff. I thought LSU was dead early on. I was only halfway paying attention and the cheering just sort of died for a while. That NEVER happens.

(I live right by Tiger Stadium)

[RichardCranium]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqiLlOybz9s

[Makkah]

See above.

[Skeeter]

Definately a cheap shot, but I'm guessing at some point in the game Dorsey did something to earn it.

[RichardCranium]

Definately a cheap shot, but I'm guessing at some point in the game Dorsey did something to earn it.

That's not something you earn you douche.

[TheEschaton]

Well....he was being black while in Louisiana.

[Sean of the Thread]

That bastard.

[Daniel]

Definately a cheap shot, but I'm guessing at some point in the game Dorsey did something to earn it.

Wow. that block was sick. I hope you never do anything to deserve something like that.

[Tsa`ah]

That's not something you earn you douche.

No shit.

In HS shit like that happens all the time. Inexperience .... whatever. By the time a person gets to college they develop an understanding that a person's ability to play is finite and such things break an unspoken agreement between any team meeting on the gridiron.

That went beyond a douche move and I hope someday things like this become an ejectable foul.

It reminded me of the Green block on Johnson and me wondering why Johnson was getting shit for his reaction rather than the Texans carting Green off the field in search of a wood chipper.

[TheEschaton]

BC #2 in the AP and the USA Today...woo.

AP
1. Ohio State (57) 8-0 1,612
2. Boston College (2) 7-0 1,494
3. LSU (5) 7-1 1,479
4. Oklahoma 7-1 1,421
5. Oregon 6-1 1,355
6. West Virginia 6-1 1,228
7. Arizona State (1) 7-0 1,156
8. Virginia Tech 6-1 1,111
9. USC 6-1 1,107
9. Florida 5-2 1,107
11. South Florida 6-1 980
12. Kansas 7-0 960
13. Missouri 6-1 925
14. Kentucky 6-2 719
15. South Carolina 6-2 649
16. Hawaii 7-0 573
17. Texas 5-2 497
18. California 5-2 444
19. Michigan 6-2 401
20. Georgia 5-2 394
21. Virginia 7-1 315
22. Alabama 6-2 263
23. Auburn 5-3 248
24. Penn State 6-2 209
25. Rutgers 5-2 174

USA Today
1. Ohio State (58) 8-0 1,498
2. Boston College (2) 7-0 1,412
3. LSU 7-1 1,319
4. Oklahoma 7-1 1,306
5. Oregon 6-1 1,225
6. West Virginia 6-1 1,134
7. Arizona State 7-0 1,089
8. USC 6-1 1,060
9. Virginia Tech 6-1 1,052
10. Kansas 7-0 911
11. Florida 5-2 906
12. South Florida 6-1 813
13. Missouri 6-1 790
14. Hawaii 7-0 617
15. Kentucky 6-2 604
16. Texas 5-2 527
17. South Carolina 6-2 474
18. Virginia 7-1 466
19. Georgia 5-2 402
20. California 5-2 397
21. Michigan 6-2 325
22. Penn State 6-2 294
23. Auburn 5-3 179
24. Alabama 6-2 177
25. Wisconsin 6-2 105

[Stanley Burrell]

The shovel pass transformed the blockers into pass interference-subjective entities. Flag: Defense, c'mon now.

.

Was there even an effort to throw the yellow towel?

[Skeeter]

That's not something you earn you douche.

So because he's on LSU that makes him incapable of doing something that would make someone want to take out his knees?

Linemen do all sorts of ugly shit to each other.

[Tsa`ah]

Forget the team and open your eyes.

It's an intentional ... and illegal ... chop block.

There's a reason why this isn't done.

[Skeeter]

At what point did it seem like I was justifying the block?

My point was he must have really done something to piss that guy off for him to want to end his career. Typically people don't try to cripple you for shits and giggles.

[Tsa`ah]

You mean he had to have done something?

Ok ...

[Makkah]

It was a dirty block. Many, many, many dirty blocks happen in EVERY single football game. He just got caught.

I'm not justifying the block at all, but this shit happens a LOT that you don't hear about. Watch a football game.

[Sean of the Thread]

It was a very obvious dirty block at that. However lots of dirty goes on in football....

Uhm not saying I did this or anything but I've "heard" of lineman taking a shit pre game.... not wiping their asses and dipping into their sweaty ass poop souped crack on occasion and putting the hands into the face/lips of the opposing lineman on the snap.


Just saying that's something I heard once.

[Drew]

No shit.

In HS shit like that happens all the time. Inexperience .... whatever. By the time a person gets to college they develop an understanding that a person's ability to play is finite and such things break an unspoken agreement between any team meeting on the gridiron.

That went beyond a douche move and I hope someday things like this become an ejectable foul.

It reminded me of the Green block on Johnson and me wondering why Johnson was getting shit for his reaction rather than the Texans carting Green off the field in search of a wood chipper.


A cut block is a legal move though, a chop block is not. There are plenty of legal moves in the NFL that can harm someone permanently. Just ask the guy who hit Kevin Everett. I won't condemn Trent Green or Navy for using a completely legal move, but that chop block on Dorsey was grotesquely uncalled for (I didn't see if he got pushed into him, but from the replay I saw it seemed he didn't).

[Drew]

It was a very obvious dirty block at that. However lots of dirty goes on in football....

Uhm not saying I did this or anything but I've "heard" of lineman taking a shit pre game.... not wiping their asses and dipping into their sweaty ass poop souped crack on occasion and putting the hands into the face/lips of the opposing lineman on the snap.


Just saying that's something I heard once.


Clear eyes, full farts, can't lose.

[TheEschaton]

Wait, I think I just saw the BCS Standings again, and somehow USF is still #2....because of the mystical computer ranking, which gives it a 1.000 percentage.

-TheE-

[Sean of the Thread]

Wait, I think I just saw the BCS Standings again, and somehow USF is still #2....because of the mystical computer ranking, which gives it a 1.000 percentage.

-TheE-


SUCK IT !

[Latrinsorm]

Wait, I think I just saw the BCS Standings again, and somehow USF is still #2Where?

[Sean of the Thread]

Where?

http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/polls/bcs

[Latrinsorm]

I just saw a graphic on Fox stating Ohio State, BC, LSU, Arizona State and Oregon as the top 5.

[Makkah]

Yea... um that's last week's BCS, ar-tard.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/rankingsindex

[TheEschaton]

Okay....the one I saw had USF's record as 6-1, so I thought it was the most recent standings.

[Latrinsorm]

Uconn STAND UP

[Sean of the Thread]

10 South Florida 6-1 12 1627 .5709 12 813 .5420 .8100 2 .641


BCS has them at 10 now.

[Makkah]

Yes. We can all read.

[Latrinsorm]

Hey Rhett I hear Ohio State is #1 in the BCS.

[Sean of the Thread]

Yes. We can all read.

I dunno you all seemed a little confused.


Not to mention that the site was just updated about 10 minutes ago. Ar-Tard.

[Makkah]

USF IS STILL NUMBER 2!!!! TAKE THAT. Dumbass.

[Sean of the Thread]

You guys are dumb.

[RichardCranium]

The true BCS standings aren't released until 'The OT' on Sunday evening since Fox has a contract with the BCS.

[Shari]

GO DEVILS.

I'm so excited they made it this far I could pee.

[TheEschaton]

Is that something you do while you cyber in public. Or are golden showers extra?

[Makkah]

ASU and BC are in the same boat. Neither has played a team worth 8 shits.

OSU is in the same boat, but they may actually be decent.

[Shari]

You make me cry, E.

And I'm not arguing with you, Makkah. Just nice to see them high on the list, at least for a little while. ;)

[Doughboy]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA BC #2 IN THE NATION.

FIUCK YOU FUCKERTARDs.


BC visits Blacksburg next week. They may well be number two for all of a couple days.

Hello Heisman hopeful. I'm Lane Stadium at night. It's a real pleasure to meet you.


rofl at #2 again

[Doughboy]

Wild damn finish. BC beats the Hokies 3 times on Thursday. The only team. Big time botched holding call on the last play though.

[Drew]

Yeah def. a hold, no doubt about it, but the refs didn't want to call another one. You gotta put Matt Ryan as the Heisman #1 after that performance, coming back and winning when you have a bad game is the real mark of a great player.

BC still looks pretty awful, but they haven't lost yet so you gotta give 'em that credit.

[Doughboy]

Yeah def. a hold, no doubt about it, but the refs didn't want to call another one. You gotta put Matt Ryan as the Heisman #1 after that performance, coming back and winning when you have a bad game is the real mark of a great player.

BC still looks pretty awful, but they haven't lost yet so you gotta give 'em that credit.

25 of 52 isn't very Heisman looking. I'll give him credit for the comeback though. VT made some bad defensive calls at the end of that game though. I personally wouldn't have sat in the prevent on the first TD drive like that after what they were doing worked REALLY well all night.


Edited to add: Yeah they're undefeated. They get credit for that. But god was this a piss poor showing for them. If VT had an offense worth mentioning in this game it woulda been a blowout.

[Skeeter]

Someone call 911 cuz BC stole that game.

[Drew]

25 of 52 isn't very Heisman looking. I'll give him credit for the comeback though. VT made some bad defensive calls at the end of that game though. I personally wouldn't have sat in the prevent on the first TD drive like that after what they were doing worked REALLY well all night.



Everyone has bad days though, it's impossible not to, I like a player who can rise above that and dig out a good performance in the end.

[TheEschaton]

You wanna talk bad calls? How about that "taunting" call? How about that TD that they somehow held up on review? How about that INT where the guy's knee hit out of bounds? How about the phantom 15 yard facemask penalty on our lineman?

Whatever man, that comeback was amazing. And I agree, the sign of a great player is coming back to fucking win it. Did you see him after the second TD? He was puking on the sidelines, that's how quick the adrenaline crashed.

-TheE-

[Drew]

Dude STFU, you got lucky, behave with some class. I know it's Boston, but someone has to try it.

[TheEschaton]

I'd be acting without class if those weren't legit gripes. I only mentioned them because y'all mentioned one blown call for BC against a plethora of complete shit calls against BC. I'll be the first to admit we played a horrible first 57 minutes. But that last 3, shit, that was beautiful.


-TheE-

[Makkah]

Well of course you're not gonna admit the million blown holds on the left DE of VT. He was dominating 80% of the game, and then he just magically gets stopped (read: held).

Good game, BC deserves to be where they're at (for record alone)... for now. Fortunately, teams like BC and ASU won't last the whole season. Saving grace is that they're gonna be losing so late in the season, they won't get a chance to get back up.

[TheEschaton]

Errr, combination of the fact that he wasn't "dominating" and was probably tired at the end of the game?

Seriously, he made 2 (as I counted) good plays in the first half, and he was "dominating". Then, another one on the drive before the first TD drive. And then he didn't do anything else.

To be honest, though, I was so giddy and crazed during that last TD drive, I wouldn't have known if he was holding, cause I didn't see most of the drive, I was eyes-closed, praying.

As for us losing late in the season - it was generally accepted that V-tech was our hardest game left. We have FSU, Miami, Clemson, and someone else left now, none of whom have been overly impressive this year.

[Drew]

It's amazing that a homer has problems with the calls against his team. I can't blame you, I would probably punch the referee who called "pass interference" on Glenn Sharpe back in 2002 if I saw him today. Anyway, you guys got terribly lucky with the calls, tons of deserving holds weren't called and your QB was playing great, sometimes that's what it takes. On the other hand I wouldn't look past FSU, UM or Clemson. None are having great years but to discount three programs with that kind of history would be a foolish move. Big programs like those can win anytime any Saturday. If you gave me the choice of playing UTEP or Nebraska I'd take UTEP every time even though Nebraska is the worse team on paper.

[Daniel]

Lol @ people crying like bitches cuz they look like idiots.

[Sean of the Thread]

I would have been happy with them losing by 3 :)

[oldanforgotten]

It?ll work out in the end.

BC has gotten to the number 2 by proxy ranking and has now shown they deserve a top 5 ranking. Prior to this, they had beaten such national powerhouses as St. Mary?s pre-school for the blind + deaf, Um Ass, and Western Canada Elderly Complex. Now they have a win over a legitimate top 25 team on the road.

Ohio State on the other hand, still hasn?t beaten a single team worth a damn, and does not have a single good challenge on the schedule. The Big 10 is so bad this year it almost defies belief.

The team to beat so far has STILL gotta be LSU, OU, and Oregon.

Then again, I will always be in favor of a team with 1 loss that played 5 or 6 legitimate opponents over a team with no losses who played nobody.

Now, before the comparisons start between the BC win and the LSU win, it?s not really fair to compare the two so directly, due to weather conditions, where it was played, when in the season it was played, etc, but watching the game did make a few things pretty clear to me.

1) BC?s run defense is ranked so high because they haven?t played a single even halfway decent rushing attack.
2) BC?s offensive line is not very good, and a top flight D-line (which VT isn?t), would absolutely blow them off the line of scrimmage.
3) BC?s receivers are slow
4) Matt Ryan is better than he played last night, has much better than expected armstrength, but he can be confused by changing looks in the secondary.
5) BC has a suspect secondary.
6) BC?s linebackers are the heart and soul of the defense, and they are solid tacklers.
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[Doughboy]

You wanna talk bad calls? How about that "taunting" call? How about that TD that they somehow held up on review? How about that INT where the guy's knee hit out of bounds? How about the phantom 15 yard facemask penalty on our lineman?

Whatever man, that comeback was amazing. And I agree, the sign of a great player is coming back to fucking win it. Did you see him after the second TD? He was puking on the sidelines, that's how quick the adrenaline crashed.

-TheE-

How about the last phantom roughing the kicker on the final punt by BC? 15 yards for...nothing? I loved the punter falling over..arching his back...and then grabbing the wrong leg. The only thing he forgot to do was to thank the Academy. You can piss on all the bad calls against BC, there were just as many that went the other way. Thats the problem with being whats commonly called "a fanboy" for your team. It's always this and that happened against us. At least look at the entire picture. Trust me, I know. I did it a lot in the Miami loss to OSU.

[Doughboy]

Well of course you're not gonna admit the million blown holds on the left DE of VT. He was dominating 80% of the game, and then he just magically gets stopped (read: held).

Good game, BC deserves to be where they're at (for record alone)... for now. Fortunately, teams like BC and ASU won't last the whole season. Saving grace is that they're gonna be losing so late in the season, they won't get a chance to get back up.

Magically stopped? That lineman was magically tackled by two of the BC o-linemen. And yeah, if they do take a loss somewhere in the next few weeks they won't be able to recover. I doubt they'd get a BCS nod anyway..just basing that off of schedule strength. Remember why Florida got in last season.

[TheEschaton]

A) They would have to give us a BCS nod if we won the ACC.

B) yeah, the acting on that punt was hilarious. But only hilarious because I cheer for BC. It was a pretty bogus call.

-TheE-

[Sean of the Thread]

No offense but BC is probably the most overrated team in recent memory. It will work it's self out before it's all said and done however.

Last nights game was a joke. Shameful for a Thursday night prime time game. :(

[TheEschaton]

Still butthurt because USF lost to RUTGERS?

[Sean of the Thread]

Still butthurt because USF lost to RUTGERS?

Nope. USF is by far a better team than BC. Unlike BC.. USF has actually played real teams.

Did you see me stomp up a storm about the USF/RUT game? I thought it was an awesome game. One worthy of a Thursday night game.

Only gripe I had was the blown calls. I guess the NCAA apologizing for them since doesn't really make up for it but it's better than nothing.

[Doughboy]

A) They would have to give us a BCS nod if we won the ACC.

B) yeah, the acting on that punt was hilarious. But only hilarious because I cheer for BC. It was a pretty bogus call.

-TheE-

They don't have to give you anything. If LSU wins the SEC, I'd put them in over BC just based on schedule strength. Mind you, none of this really matters. BC will more than likely take a loss in the next couple of weeks. OSU just may take a loss this weekened. I wouldn't be surprised if two totally random teams make it into the BCS game this year as wild as it's been so far.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Sean2
Nope. USF is by far a better team than BC. Unlike BC.. USF has actually played real teams.

Did you see me stomp up a storm about the USF/RUT game? I thought it was an awesome game. One worthy of a Thursday night game.

Only gripe I had was the blown calls. I guess the NCAA apologizing for them since doesn't really make up for it but it's better than nothing.

Link? The only apologizing I heard of lately was the Big East saying the ref blew the fair catch call in the UL / UConn game.

[TheEschaton]

Errr, the ACC is a BCS conference. The winner of the ACC goes to the Orange Bowl, I believe.

[Sean of the Thread]

Link? The only apologizing I heard of lately was the Big East saying the ref blew the fair catch call in the UL / UConn game.

I'll search in a bit as I'm BG'N! now. They mentioned it on ESPN over the "forward pass" fumble play.


*oh and that UL/UCONN call was fucking out the door crazy.

[Sean of the Thread]

Hmm searching I can't even find the official apology for the UCONN/UL punt call.

Where the fuck do you find these things?

[Sean]

The UConn / UL is easy to find..

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/ncaa/10/22/bc.fbc.louisville.apology.ap/index.html

[Anebriated]

Wow, UConn is getting off the hook easy this year. They should have lost to Temple(I know, lol) as well. There was an apology after that game too.

[Sean of the Thread]

The UConn / UL is easy to find..

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/ncaa/10/22/bc.fbc.louisville.apology.ap/index.html

No I'm looking for the official.. not the media.

[Sean]

Um..


Big East commissioner Mike Tranghese called Louisville athletic director Tom Jurich on Sunday, saying the referees erred during a disputed punt return for the touchdown by the Huskies early in the third quarter.


Tranghese told Jurich the officials had made a "terrible" mistake. Tranghese took action against the referee who missed the call, but wouldn't elaborate on the penalty.

You can find the exact same AP article on ESPN. The media does report official news every so often...

[Sean of the Thread]

Uhm.. which is the media. I think I've been clear about LOOKING FOR where the NCAA officially releases these statements.

I've never complained about the USF/RUT game so need to get butt hurt. (which you obviously are being defensive.)

If you watched the same game then you should just be happy that you guys stole that game. That wasn't the only bad call. Just the only one that made talk on national television/radio (not in rutgers favor either).


Other than that it was straight up a great game.. hell the call made the game more entertaining. I know you haven't forgotten I'm a fan of RU.

However of the three we're talking about BC/RU/USF ... USF is by far the best team at this point. I don't see how anyone that claims to know about football can argue that.

[Sean]

I'm being defensive because you came and made a claim to suit your argument using the RU/USF game and the officiating but as of yet you've yet to be able to back it up.

[Sean of the Thread]

It wasn't a claim to suit/defend my argument as there was no argument. USF being better than BC is a "no argument". My mention of the call was only a conversational side comment.

It wasn't meant to substantiate anything.. I said it was my only gripe.

[RichardCranium]

They don't have to give you anything. If LSU wins the SEC, I'd put them in over BC just based on schedule strength. Mind you, none of this really matters. BC will more than likely take a loss in the next couple of weeks. OSU just may take a loss this weekened. I wouldn't be surprised if two totally random teams make it into the BCS game this year as wild as it's been so far.

OSU, BC and Arizona state are numbers 1, 2 and 4 in the BCS standings and all are undefeated. Let's look at the rest of their games.

The Buckeyes visit No. 25 Penn State on Saturday, then get home dates against Illinois and Wisconsin before traveling to No. 20 Michigan.

All of the Eagles’ remaining games are against potential bowl teams as they host Florida State next week and Miami at the end of the season, with road trips to Maryland and Clemson in between.

No. 4 Arizona State is hosting No. 21 California before running a gauntlet comprised of No. 5 Oregon and UCLA on the road and No. 12 USC at home before finishing with Arizona.

( I copied and pasted the previous three sentences from an article in the Advocate this morning )


I really don't see any of the three finishing unbeaten, especially Arizona St. and BC.

[Sean of the Thread]

Potential sub .500 bowl teams.....

[RichardCranium]

It's hard not to find bowl teams with 156 bowls these days.