Tsa`ah
12-24-2005, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by Ganalon
What about those who cant join for physical or any other reason that would disqualify them for service? They are not allowed to have a voice, regardless of what side they believe in?
It's easy to believe when your life isn't on the line.
Conviction in one's belief tends to be nothing more than fleeting convenience once it is apparent that you will likely die, and do so horribly.
And I see that you've been taking straw picking 101 from Latrin.
So if you agree with the war you're an armchair quarterback, but if you disagree with the war you are a speaker of truth. :rolleyes: If this were any more one sided you'd be published on moveon.org
Not at all and you're more of an idiot if that's what you got out of it.
Are you physically disabled or unable to serve?
What excuse do you have for not doing so and why is that excuse good for you, but not for the people doing their "jobs"?
I don't advocate putting our troops into combat over a pack of lies. I'm actually for pulling them out in the most expedient fashion.
Now, were I all for going into Iran and pulling down an antisemitic fuckstain who is in dire need of electro shock ... your argument would hold and I would be the hypocrite who was QBing from the armchair.
Again with the 'go out and do it' concept. So people are not allowed to voice their opinion unless it fits your viewpoint. Nice First Amendment usage there.
Absolutely voice your opinion, just admit that there's not a chance in hell you're picking up a fire arm and bucket for your head to go aid the efforts in Iraq.
Again, to me, it's nothing more than being a loud mouth from the safety of your home.
Dave's, and toj's for that matter, posting would have held a ton more weight were they posting from Iraq. toj was done with service, Dave's was just beginning and it was highly, probably still is, that he would ever see Iraq at all. Even then it wouldn't be as a combatant.
No worse than your idea to run out and 'join up!' or shut up ideas.
Is fighting for what you believe in all that bad? Putting a little conviction behind the posts?
Words and actions meeting and all.
Agreed TOJ was a moron, and Dave was just overwhelmed when he was only one of the few who stood out against the rampant liberal viewpoint here on the PC and fell back on the same style of argument that you are using now.
No, I'm suggesting that you take your strong conviction and put it to use. Maybe, just maybe, by enlisting you can do some soldiers a favor and take over the watch and let them come home for a time to be with their families.
If the idea is so damned outrageous to you it simply leads me to believe that you're talking out of an orifice best for something else.
Not like they were 'drafted' or anything. Its their job, its what they get paid to do. If I could join, I would have 18 years ago. That does not discredit my viewpoints or who(m) I choose to support. Congratulations on forming a completely one sided argument.
The job of our soldiers is to defend this country. Iraq wasn't a threat to this country.
When that little fact was proven, it turned into "well we got Sadam didn't we". Yes, but we got Sadam over a lie all while ignoring the other Sadam like leaders of the world in power.
It does however discredit your view when the idea is so damned unbearable to you. It shows that you're a wind bag who is happy to let someone else take a bullet for something that you believe in ... damn their beliefs. They are only soldiers after all.
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What some of us dont buy is the rhetoric and propeganda that has dominated the biased media since the war started from the opposition party to the Bush administration. And some of us are not afraid to offer opposition, as seen by some of us even here on the PC.
And more "biased" claims ... evil liberal ... blah blah blah .
Post something original and of your own mind if you have one.
And, since you do so love to do it ... propaganda ... don't
What about those who cant join for physical or any other reason that would disqualify them for service? They are not allowed to have a voice, regardless of what side they believe in?
It's easy to believe when your life isn't on the line.
Conviction in one's belief tends to be nothing more than fleeting convenience once it is apparent that you will likely die, and do so horribly.
And I see that you've been taking straw picking 101 from Latrin.
So if you agree with the war you're an armchair quarterback, but if you disagree with the war you are a speaker of truth. :rolleyes: If this were any more one sided you'd be published on moveon.org
Not at all and you're more of an idiot if that's what you got out of it.
Are you physically disabled or unable to serve?
What excuse do you have for not doing so and why is that excuse good for you, but not for the people doing their "jobs"?
I don't advocate putting our troops into combat over a pack of lies. I'm actually for pulling them out in the most expedient fashion.
Now, were I all for going into Iran and pulling down an antisemitic fuckstain who is in dire need of electro shock ... your argument would hold and I would be the hypocrite who was QBing from the armchair.
Again with the 'go out and do it' concept. So people are not allowed to voice their opinion unless it fits your viewpoint. Nice First Amendment usage there.
Absolutely voice your opinion, just admit that there's not a chance in hell you're picking up a fire arm and bucket for your head to go aid the efforts in Iraq.
Again, to me, it's nothing more than being a loud mouth from the safety of your home.
Dave's, and toj's for that matter, posting would have held a ton more weight were they posting from Iraq. toj was done with service, Dave's was just beginning and it was highly, probably still is, that he would ever see Iraq at all. Even then it wouldn't be as a combatant.
No worse than your idea to run out and 'join up!' or shut up ideas.
Is fighting for what you believe in all that bad? Putting a little conviction behind the posts?
Words and actions meeting and all.
Agreed TOJ was a moron, and Dave was just overwhelmed when he was only one of the few who stood out against the rampant liberal viewpoint here on the PC and fell back on the same style of argument that you are using now.
No, I'm suggesting that you take your strong conviction and put it to use. Maybe, just maybe, by enlisting you can do some soldiers a favor and take over the watch and let them come home for a time to be with their families.
If the idea is so damned outrageous to you it simply leads me to believe that you're talking out of an orifice best for something else.
Not like they were 'drafted' or anything. Its their job, its what they get paid to do. If I could join, I would have 18 years ago. That does not discredit my viewpoints or who(m) I choose to support. Congratulations on forming a completely one sided argument.
The job of our soldiers is to defend this country. Iraq wasn't a threat to this country.
When that little fact was proven, it turned into "well we got Sadam didn't we". Yes, but we got Sadam over a lie all while ignoring the other Sadam like leaders of the world in power.
It does however discredit your view when the idea is so damned unbearable to you. It shows that you're a wind bag who is happy to let someone else take a bullet for something that you believe in ... damn their beliefs. They are only soldiers after all.
[
What some of us dont buy is the rhetoric and propeganda that has dominated the biased media since the war started from the opposition party to the Bush administration. And some of us are not afraid to offer opposition, as seen by some of us even here on the PC.
And more "biased" claims ... evil liberal ... blah blah blah .
Post something original and of your own mind if you have one.
And, since you do so love to do it ... propaganda ... don't