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Gan
07-24-2007, 01:55 PM
It all starts with one simple sentence (http://search.breitbart.com/q?s=), spoken almost in a whisper, but which has a thunderous effect.


A female police officer deployed in Tehran's latest moral crackdown tells a woman that her manto (overcoat) is too short and infringes Iranian Islamic dress rules.

"Azizam (my dear), good afternoon (http://search.breitbart.com/q?s=), if possible could we have a friendly chat, please allow us to have a small chat," the officer, a graduate of Tehran's police academy, tells the young woman.

"My dear there is a problem with your manto. Please do not wear this kind of manto. Please wear a longer manto from now on."

Some are just let go there, but others are escorted to waiting minibuses with dark black tinted window panes and labelled "Guidance Patrol."

A girl in a short white manto whose long hair was tumbling out the front of her headscarf is taken by the police to one of the minibuses on Vanak Square in central Tehran -- an unexpected and unhappy end to her shopping trip.


Another arrested woman is already inside the bus. She begins to cry. "I promise, I promise!"

And the minibus doors slam shut.

Tehran's police have said they are operating a three stage process in implementing the new wave of a crackdown on dress deemed to be unIslamic, which started with some intensity on Monday afternoon.

First, women are given a verbal warning (http://search.breitbart.com/q?s=) on the street. If the problem is not resolved there, they are taken to the police station for "guidance" and to sign a vow not to repeat the offence. Should this be unsuccessful, their case is handed to the judiciary.

"Sure my manto is short, but there are many others whose clothes are more seductive than mine and they walking by without any punishment," one of the arrested girls in the minibus complained bitterly.

The arrested women will now go to a "centre for combating vice".

Their parents will be phoned and they will bring a longer coat and fuller headscarf for their daughters. If the young women sign the pledge they will then be released.


"We want our words to have an effect on people," a female Iranian police officer, who by law was not allowed to give her name, told AFP before being dispatched to take part in the crackdown.

"Our method is through guidance and via words. We do not face an instance that prompts us to be physical. We do not have any bats or sprays, in the toughest instances we may grab her hand and 'guide' her to the minibus," she said.

"I am doing this it as it is my duty and my job is supported by the religious teachings," another women clad in the black chador uniform of Tehran's female police added.

A girl confronted by the female police for having overly short trousers and transparent stockings apologizes.

"I am wearing stockings but, sorry, they are too light. Sorry I will change them, definitely I will change them. Now can I go?"

Not everything goes so smoothly.

One young passer-by rounds on the police for devoting such resources to moral crackdowns rather than other social problems as the minibus -- now filled with "badly veiled" women -- speeds away to the police station (http://search.breitbart.com/q?s=).


"Shame on you, look what you've done! The people's problem is not this, go fix your traffic situation, people are stuck in traffic for hours, go fix other real problems," she shrieks.

There was already considerable controversy inside Iran (http://search.breitbart.com/q?s=) when the first stage (http://search.breitbart.com/q?s=) of the "plan to increase security in society" was launched in April.
Many conservatives have applauded the drive, but moderates have publicly questioned whether Iran would be better off tackling poverty and crime rather than slack dressing.

Just before the new crackdown started, popular television host Farzad Hasani grilled Tehran's police chief Ahmad Reza Radan about the drive on his talk show, accusing the police of "not differentiating between people and thugs."

An old woman in a black chador in Vanak Qquare echoed the sentiment.
"Our youth have no peace of mind (http://search.breitbart.com/q?s=). They are afraid to go out, they are afraid that if they go out they will be taken to the police. Aren't they saying that there is freedom?"

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070724144415.2esww75r&show_article=1

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Wow...

Tolwynn
07-24-2007, 02:02 PM
but, but, their freedom of speech is alive and well... isn't it?

Sean
07-24-2007, 02:30 PM
Seriously Tolwynn slow down a little. PBs old and can't keep up with a PBlite running around and posting all of his material before he gets the chance.

Gan
07-24-2007, 02:40 PM
Seriously Tolwynn slow down a little. PBs old and can't keep up with a PBlite running around and posting all of his material before he gets the chance.

PBlite...

LOL

Sean
07-24-2007, 02:41 PM
Also that OP is one of the most ridiculous things I've read today.

Gan
07-24-2007, 03:01 PM
The picture really adds to the story though.

And I have one thing to say to the radical clergy old farts making these things enforceable... AVERT YOUR FUCKING EYES. Dont hold women responsible for your deviant gutter-minded tendancies as well as your inability to cope with beauty and desire.

Drew
07-24-2007, 03:52 PM
Haha I thought she was showing a lot of leg just from the article, then I look at the picture and she is wearing jeans under her coat, hahaha, wonderful.

Jorddyn
07-24-2007, 04:12 PM
I don't think I would have made it past 12 had I been born in a country such as that.

Jorddyn, likes to speak her mind, show her ankles

TheEschaton
07-24-2007, 06:26 PM
Slut.

Sean of the Thread
07-24-2007, 06:33 PM
Whoooore

Jorddyn
07-24-2007, 07:58 PM
Slut.

Awww, how sweet!

Or something.

Jorddyn

TheSmooth1
07-25-2007, 09:05 AM
lol, but what if the woman isn't Islamic?


Many conservatives have applauded the drive

When did conservatives get so fucking stupid?

Gan
07-25-2007, 09:47 AM
When did conservatives get so fucking stupid?

When they got religion.

Landrion
07-25-2007, 10:03 AM
I know this seems a lot ridiculous to us. Still, I find myself wondering if there aren't people in the world that find our rules about indecent exposure equally ludicrous. On the flip side, have any of us ever been guilty of looking down our noses at the National Geographic pictures and thinking "savage" of those people who walk around topless or with exposed genitalia?

You go outside in our cities or towns with your manhood hanging out and you're going to jail. Just because our standards start around where a bikini covers instead of a robe are the robe people more wrong? Are we more wrong than the topless folks? Now, being your average horny guy, Im sure not complaining about getting eye candy, but on the other hand theres plenty of things I dont want to be seeing either. Everybody's got some line where they get offended.


Many conservatives have applauded the drive, but moderates have publicly questioned whether Iran would be better off tackling poverty and crime rather than slack dressing

A friend of mine, who is a police officer, recently told me something interesting. He said, every one has this different idea about "real crime". A friend will say to him, why do you spend time busting people for weed, you should be stopping REAL crimes. A crack junkie that he busts will say "why are you hassling me, theres guys out there stealing cars". The car thief says "I was just joyriding, why dont you go stop some killers".

So uh, yeah, gee am I supporting hardline dress codes in a fundamentalist government? Sounds stupid to me. But I cant help thinking dress codes are arbitrary anyway. Whether youre used to seeing ankles, breasts, thighs or whatever - dressing is mainly a courtesy to everyone else in the society.

Gan
07-25-2007, 10:22 AM
Clothes are good. They keep certain bodily functions from being on public display, which is a grand thing. I'll let you decide which bodily functions I'm talking about (I can think of a pretty big list).

And remember, not everyone walking around has the body of a supermodel. And while body hair is a good thing, as with all good things, one must exercise moderation in its indulgence.