Clinton/Edwards talk of limiting debates

[Gan]

Associated Press - July 13, 2007 2:23 AM ET

DETROIT (AP) - Democrats John Edwards and Hillary Rodham Clinton consider themselves among the top presidential candidates.

They were caught by Fox News microphones discussing their desire to limit future joint appearances to exclude some lower rivals after a forum in Detroit Thursday.

Edwards says, "We should try to have a more serious and a smaller group."
Clinton agrees, saying, "We've got to cut the number" and "they're not serious." She also says that she thought their campaigns had already tried to limit the debates and say, "We've gotta get back to it."

Others taking part in the forum sponsored by the NAACP were Senators Barack Obama, Chris Dodd and Joe Biden, Congressman Dennis Kucinich, New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson and former Alaska Senator Mike Gravel.

One Republican, Colorado Congressman Tom Tancredo, also participated.

http://www.wluctv6.com/Global/story.asp?S=6784011
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OOOOOOPS!

:lol:

I wonder what Obama's camp thinks about this...

Is this a precurser to what the Hillary ticket will look like? Clinton/Edwards?

:thinking:

[CrystalTears]

:lol: Yeah right...

[DeV]

Clinton/Edwards

:thinking:Ewwww.

They are both lawyers so there has to be a great deal of calculated planning going on in both of their minds. I just really really hope that a Clinton/Edwards ticket is not being considered. Now or ever.

[Gan]

Ewwww.

They are both lawyers so there has to be a great deal of calculated planning going on in both of their minds. I just really really hope that a Clinton/Edwards ticket is not being considered. Now or ever.

Considering she'd be the 'pitcher' (read: has bigger brass ones) in that relationship, I think it would work out quite well for those two.

[Back]

Is this the beginning to a Clinton/Edwards ticket?

[Gan]

LOL

Here's the clip.

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=3371185

[Warriorbird]

Ugh. Obama needs to start playing hardball. Those two would guarantee a win for the forces of repression.

[Parkbandit]

GO CLINTON!!!

I completely support her endeavor to become the First woman President of the United States.

[Hulkein]

Those two would guarantee a win for the forces of repression.

:tool:

[Gan]

GO CLINTON!!!

I completely support her endeavor to become the First woman President of the United States.

I totally support Clinton/Edwards in their efforts to win the DNC nomination. Thats as far as I go though. ;)

[Sean of the Thread]

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[Warriorbird]

GO CLINTON!!!

I completely support her endeavor to become the First woman President of the United States.
-PB

All of you should be campaigning hard.

[Parkbandit]

Actually.. I haven't found a single candidate to support. I think the Democrats are putting up the same ol, same ol.. with Obama.. who can't answer simple questions without fucking them up. The Republicans have a couple new faces.. with the same old tired message.

These are the best we can find? I'm disappointed.

[Tsa`ah]

Actually.. I haven't found a single candidate to support. I think the Democrats are putting up the same ol, same ol.. with Obama.. who can't answer simple questions without fucking them up. The Republicans have a couple new faces.. with the same old tired message.

These are the best we can find? I'm disappointed.

You mean answers you want to hear? That you're disappointed is kind of moot since you wouldn't vote for anyone without a "conservative" seal of approval.

Truth is, I don't watch debates. The questions are so canned that the answers are pretty much meaningless.

I think the GOP, Clinton, and Edwards are more than a little worried about Obama. They can't rally support in the way of campaign contributions (the GOP anyway). Clinton and Edwards are getting the bigger checks, but Obama is getting way more.

Old politics and old school politicians are in trouble.

As to the original topic, this doesn't surprise me. It's typical of the strategy either side uses. Allowing a lesser known candidate into a debate means they could actually give some straight forward answers and rally support for a "blah" campaign and. Elections of this magnitude are pretty much who can raise the most cash and get the most "positive" name recognition. If you're struggling with the cash ... the last thing you want is a "lesser" candidate carving even more fat off your pork roast.

Same old same old.

[Kembal]

Heck, Tsa'ah, your point is demonstrated by Ron Paul. Apparently he's got more cash on hand and more money raised this quarter than John McCain.

[Warriorbird]

I could see myself voting for Ron Paul. Problem is...most Republicans couldn't. They're way too far into nationalist land. They've left conservative way behind.

[Gan]

I could see myself voting for Ron Paul. Problem is...most Republicans couldn't. They're way too far into nationalist land. They've left conservative way behind.

From his site:

I've put in red the primary issues that I disagree with Ron Paul on.



Debt and Taxes (http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/debt-and-taxes/)
Working Americans like lower taxes. So do I. Lower taxes benefit all of us, creating jobs and allowing us to make more decisions for ourselves about our lives. (more... (http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/debt-and-taxes/))

American Independence and Sovereignty (http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/american-independence-and-sovereignty/)
So called free trade deals and world governmental organizations like the International Criminal Court (ICC), NAFTA, GATT, WTO, and CAFTA are a threat to our independence as a nation. (more... (http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/american-independence-and-sovereignty/))

War and Foreign Policy (http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/war-and-foreign-policy/)
The war in Iraq was sold to us with false information. The area is more dangerous now than when we entered it. We destroyed a regime hated by our direct enemies, the jihadists, and created thousands of new recruits for them. (more... (http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/war-and-foreign-policy/))

Life and Liberty (http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/life-and-liberty/)
The right of an innocent, unborn child to life is at the heart of the American ideals of liberty. My professional and legislative record demonstrates my strong commitment to this pro-life principle. (more... (http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/life-and-liberty/))

Border Security and Immigration Reform (http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/border-security-and-immigration-reform/)
The talk must stop. We must secure our borders now. A nation without secure borders is no nation at all. It makes no sense to fight terrorists abroad when our own front door is left unlocked. (more... (http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/border-security-and-immigration-reform/))

Privacy and Personal Liberty (http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/privacy-and-personal-liberty/)
The biggest threat to your privacy is the government. We must drastically limit the ability of government to collect and store data regarding citizens’ personal matters. (more... (http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/privacy-and-personal-liberty/))

Property Rights and Eminent Domain (http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/property-rights-and-eminent-domain/)
We must stop special interests from violating property rights and literally driving families from their homes, farms and ranches. (more... (http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/property-rights-and-eminent-domain/))

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/

[Hulkein]

I'd vote for Paul.

[Drew]

I'd vote for Ron Paul, I don't agree with his foreign policy and his desire to return to the gold standard is near retarded, but I'd still vote for him.

I keep telling all of you, Mitt Romney is lightning in a bottle, just wait.

[Parkbandit]

You mean answers you want to hear? That you're disappointed is kind of moot since you wouldn't vote for anyone without a "conservative" seal of approval.



I wouldn't expect Obama, the single most liberal candidate running for President to date, to have anything I want to hear. I'm talking about simply fucking up answers and looking like a bafoon... which is why I said "with Obama.. who can't answer simple questions without fucking them up." instead of "with Obama... someone who won't answer questions the way I want them answered"

Learn 2 read imo.

Certainly, Clinton Inc. is probably worried about him. He's splitting the Loonywood money that Clinton was expecting to get most of... and she's getting pissed.

But in the end, it will be Clinton on the ticket.. because she is far too organized... which will inevitably lead to another Republican victory by default.

If only there was another viable party with a candidate that could be more 'normal'.

[Warriorbird]

From his site:

I've put in red the primary issues that I disagree with Ron Paul on.
-Ganalon

Very illustrative of my point. I agree with him on a lot more than you do.

[grapedog]

Im actually a fan of Paul as well since it looks like McCain is in the can barring a miracle.


Privacy and Personal Liberty
The biggest threat to your privacy is the government. We must drastically limit the ability of government to collect and store data regarding citizens’ personal matters.

There are definetaly a few things I disagree with him on, but smaller government is not one of them. I'm not sure why anyone would disagree with this out of hand. I'd be happy if he took it a step further and gave back more control to the individual states with less overall government over-sight.

[Warriorbird]

Well...even as fairly Libertarian as I am...there are some issues with that. How many Republicans would've been happy with Louisiana's state government if just they had helped with Katrina? Just an example. I like smaller government too. The spiralling expenditures on Iraq and the tripling of government spending under the Republican Congress boggle my mind.