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thefarmer
07-10-2007, 01:37 AM
By Ann Imse, Rocky Mountain News
June 28, 2007
Two people ejected from a Bush speech in Denver over a bumper sticker have filed a second lawsuit, claiming a White House manual unlawfully bars potential critics of the president from public events. The Presidential Advance Manual calls for Bush volunteers to distribute tickets in a manner to deter protesters and to stop demonstrators from entering. It also calls for "rally squads" to drown out demonstrators and get between them and news cameras. The manual was obtained through a deposition in a West Virginia case. The new lawsuit was filed in Washington, D.C., by the American Civil Liberties Union on behalf of Leslie Weise and Alexander Young in Denver, and two people arrested at a presidential event in West Virginia because they were wearing anti-Bush T-shirts. The lawsuit is aimed at Gregory Jenkins, a former deputy assistant to President Bush and White House director of advance, who ordered the four removed.
The combination of the manual and the exclusion of people who had not disrupted events "suggests there is a formal, official policy of trying to keep hidden from the press and the president anyone who disagrees with the president," said ACLU attorney Chris Hansen. Hansen is arguing that people can be ejected from official presidential events "only upon disruption," and not because of their viewpoints. He wants a federal judge to declare unconstitutional the policy of excluding people from presidential events due to their viewpoints or on the assumption they will become disruptive.
The Justice Department, which is representing Jenkins in the Denver pair’s original lawsuit over their ejection, did not return a call and e-mail seeking comment.
Hansen said he was struck by the manual’s advice to ignore demonstrators who cannot be seen by the media. "The president must know there are people in this world who disagree with him," he said. Weise and Young arrived at the taxpayer-financed event in Denver in March 2005 in a car with a bumper sticker that said, "No more blood for oil."
Twenty minutes after they entered and before Bush’s arrival, they were forced to leave. In West Virginia, Jeffery and Nicole Rank refused to remove or cover their anti-Bush T-shirts at a presidential speech July 4, 2004, on the state Capitol grounds. They were arrested, while other people wearing pro- Bush slogans were not, the suit says. White House manual excerpts: "All presidential events must be ticketed or accessed by a name list. This is the best method for preventing demonstrators." "It is important to have your volunteers at a checkpoint before the Magnetometers in order to stop a demonstrator from getting into the event." "The advance person must decide if the solution would cause more negative publicity than if the demonstrators were simply left alone."


I thought it was interesting.

Sean of the Thread
07-10-2007, 04:03 AM
I didn't.

QQ

Davenshire
07-10-2007, 05:01 AM
This isn't a surprise. When the President came to my extremely small home town trying to garner votes for his second four they were regular tyrants at the ticket outlet. Several college student / oldsters got turned away.

There were protesters surrounding the building. Some hillbilly even got an old icecream truck and some speakers and circled the meeting place. Reminded my of the blues brothers.

It was a far cry from when we had AL Gore here almost a decade ago working his magic for Clinton and himself. Maybe they are a bit more agressive when it comes to a standing president then a wannabe vice. :)

I have to say in my locale the Republican party are a bunch of Nazi's. I've never seen such negative tactics used before by them then the last few years.

This is coming from an indepenedent/conservative who wanted to see McCain in 7 years ago. Still up in the air for the future, but Obama looks pretty good so far. I don't think McCain has a prayer since he decided so long ago to put his party/slappy george ahead of what's best for the Country.
(where are the decent republican candidates!)

Parkbandit
07-10-2007, 10:46 AM
LOL... you claim to be a conservative and then say Obama looks good.

Just another example of how ignorant many Americans are when it comes to politics.

Davenshire
07-10-2007, 11:14 AM
Excuse me :)

We'll go on a conservative 1 liberal 10

I am about a 3.5 to 4.

That work for you park?

I was hoping to see some front runner in the last few debates. Having listened to speeches and such he's the only one out of the whole field that interests me currently. That's apt to change.

He's pretty middle of the road compared to a few of the Democratic candidates. hell it's all pretty grey in the last few decades. Most everyone is saying near the same thing, and no one is making waves.

Show me someone decent other then Rudy Giuliani, and Mitt Romney. Then I might get more excited.

As for being conservative it can cover a pretty wide range of things. You should keep that in mind before you throw out slappy comments.

grapedog
07-10-2007, 12:40 PM
McCain blew his chances by siding with bush the past couple years. I don't know what else he could do, because not siding with bush would lose him the conservative base. He was in a tough spot, and he's not doing enough to distance himself from bush right now.

Ron Paul looks like an interesting candidate...some of his views are very right of the center...but no one else has really stood out to me as someone who is not lying his fucking ass off. Not to say he isn't, he could be, but he's not as friggin transparent about it as Guliani or Romney.

I'd love for McCain to bounce back...but I don't see it happening.

What would Brian Boitano do!?

Kembal
07-10-2007, 01:04 PM
McCain's gone. His top two staffers resigned today.