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Parkbandit
04-03-2007, 10:50 AM
YES! Thank you Baby Jesus for the idiot liberal judges in the Supreme Court. I was beginning to think that people were starting to realize that Global Warming theory was a scam to get $ out of people... but the Supreme Court said the EPA should now regulate CO2 emissions.. which means more proof Global Warming is real!!

I've ordered my 2 bumper stickers.. you should too!

Sean of the Thread
04-03-2007, 10:55 AM
Ban smoking IMO.

DeV
04-03-2007, 10:58 AM
They already have in a lot of places.

Parkbandit
04-03-2007, 11:16 AM
Breathing produces more CO2 than anything else.

BREATHING IS KILLING OUR PLANET! BAN LIVING!!!

Stanley Burrell
04-03-2007, 11:20 AM
The EPA exists. Yey.

You also need to recognize that this isn't concerning the unfortunately politically colored emissions and subsequent regulations of CO2 solely. By any stretch of imagination.

Ilvane
04-03-2007, 11:35 AM
I'm curious if you read into this more, PB. I'm just wondering if you realize that it's not hysteria in regards to this.

Parkbandit
04-03-2007, 12:03 PM
Not only do I believe in Global Warming.. I've created my business with this as it's foundation.

The more people believe in it.. the better business is for me.

I'm all for it. Like the Monkeys said.. I'm a believer!!

It's no different than a religion.. fuck science and fuck facts. I feel very strongly that it's happening and therefore it is.

Sure, the 70s the Environmentalists were clammering that we need to prevent global cooling and then it was acid raid that would doom us all. The difference here is.. I was too young to profit from the tards back then... I'm not missing out on another chance.

Kranar
04-03-2007, 12:12 PM
And you call Backlash a hypocrite...

Wow.

CrystalTears
04-03-2007, 12:15 PM
I thought April Fools was on Sunday.

Parkbandit
04-03-2007, 12:32 PM
And you call Backlash a hypocrite...

Wow.


Obviously you are clueless about the meaning of the term. I'm not surprised.

Backlash is a hypocrite. You can go to almost any political thread where he has posted and get specific examples of it. Black and white.

Now.. I can understand how you can be confused. I don't believe in global warming.. yet made an energy conservation company with a business plan as that 'theory' as it's core. I'm not saying now that I actually believe in global warming... merely taking advantage of the ignorance of some.

My business will profit more if this 'theory' convinces more and more people that man is raising the temperature of the entire planet to the point where the icecaps will melt and millions of people will burn in a firey hell. It helps close deals when I say "And you will be doing your part in fighting global warming"

OMG GLOBAL WARMING!? WHERE DO I SIGN!!!

Ca-ching bitches.

Skeeter
04-03-2007, 12:42 PM
I'd say PBs more of an opportunist than hypocrit

Parkbandit
04-03-2007, 12:51 PM
You make it sound so.. dirty.

Isn't any successful business opportunistic?

Gan
04-03-2007, 01:17 PM
Whats the old saying?

"A fool and his money will soon part"

DeV
04-03-2007, 01:24 PM
I think it's clever from a business perspective.

I pay you to assist me in saving money on my utilities by becoming more energy efficient and in the process allow me to believe I'm helping to reduce global warming. Win-win.

xtc
04-03-2007, 04:35 PM
Most of the world, including the vast majority of the world's leading scientists believe that humans are contributing significantly to global warming. Small things like melting polar ice caps, areas of the Antartic melting, and setting records for the warmest winter on record.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WEATHER/03/15/warmest.winter.reut/index.html

There is of course the ice core record as well.
http://www.gisp2.sr.unh.edu/GISP2/MoreInfo/Ice_Cores_Past.html

Of course this hasn't convinced some people who still take their talking points from Jerry Falwell.
http://www.wric.com/global/story.asp?s=6140669

Bobmuhthol
04-03-2007, 04:40 PM
The warmest winter on record...

Hey guess what, humans had to make those records, and they're not very old.

xtc
04-03-2007, 04:41 PM
The warmest winter on record...

Hey guess what, humans had to make those records, and they're not very old.


Since 1880.

Bobmuhthol
04-03-2007, 04:42 PM
Holy shit the warmest winter in 127 winters, we're fucking doomed.

Landrion
04-03-2007, 04:45 PM
Most of the world, including the vast majority of the world's leading scientists believe that humans are contributing significantly to global warming. Small things like melting polar ice caps, areas of the Antartic melting, and setting records for the warmest winter on record.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WEATHER/03/15/warmest.winter.reut/index.html

There is of course the ice core record as well.
http://www.gisp2.sr.unh.edu/GISP2/MoreInfo/Ice_Cores_Past.html

Of course this hasn't convinced some people who still take their talking points from Jerry Falwell.
http://www.wric.com/global/story.asp?s=6140669

Uhm, maybe I missed it, but did that link about the ice cores make any statement about global warming? Or was it only an explanation of what the ice cores do and what they hope to learn from them.

I loved this in the third link:
Falwell said the Bible teaches that God will maintain the Earth until Jesus returns,

Unfortunately as I mentioned in a previous thread, God is currently passing bad checks due to a backlog of lawsuits over "acts of God". As part of the holy trinity, Jesus is liable is well. So I wouldnt expect too much environmental action from them until thats all cleared up.

xtc
04-03-2007, 04:57 PM
Uhm, maybe I missed it, but did that link about the ice cores make any statement about global warming? Or was it only an explanation of what the ice cores do and what they hope to learn from them.

I loved this in the third link:
Falwell said the Bible teaches that God will maintain the Earth until Jesus returns,

Unfortunately as I mentioned in a previous thread, God is currently passing bad checks due to a backlog of lawsuits over "acts of God". As part of the holy trinity, Jesus is liable is well. So I wouldnt expect too much environmental action from them until thats all cleared up.

In regards to Ice Cores "they can provide an annual record of temperature, precipitation, atmospheric composition, volcanic activity, and wind patterns"

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Study/Paleoclimatology_IceCores/

Alfster
04-03-2007, 06:26 PM
Since 1880.

hahahahahahaha

how long's the earth been around?

Keller
04-03-2007, 06:40 PM
Do you understand the law in the least, PB?

Use your nogin to figure out why the USSC had to rule this way. Whether CO2 emissions have the slightest to do w/ global warming or not -- they impact the environment. Therefore, jurisdiction to control them is within the scope of the EPA. It's not rocket science.

You're a fucking loony of Backlash proportions when it comes to global warming. You need to find a different bandwagon for a few weeks and give this one some rest. Gain a little perspective.

Ignot
04-03-2007, 06:41 PM
Oh my science!

Skeeter
04-03-2007, 06:53 PM
Most of the world, including the vast majority of the world's leading scientists believe that humans are contributing significantly to global warming. Small things like melting polar ice caps, areas of the Antartic melting, and setting records for the warmest winter on record.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WEATHER/03/15/warmest.winter.reut/index.html

There is of course the ice core record as well.
http://www.gisp2.sr.unh.edu/GISP2/MoreInfo/Ice_Cores_Past.html

Of course this hasn't convinced some people who still take their talking points from Jerry Falwell.
http://www.wric.com/global/story.asp?s=6140669

your first sentence was so ridiculous I was able to stop reading there.

How confident are you in the recorded temps from 3rd world countries? Do you really trust that zimzim in that mud hut is sending in accurate readings to the global community? Also how can you put faith in a system that just guesstimates how much heat a city gives off, and subtracts that from the average? LOL@alarmists

Gan
04-03-2007, 08:34 PM
Most of the world, including the vast majority of the world's leading scientists believe that humans are contributing significantly to global warming. Small things like melting polar ice caps, areas of the Antartic melting, and setting records for the warmest winter on record.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WEATHER/03/15/warmest.winter.reut/index.html

There is of course the ice core record as well.
http://www.gisp2.sr.unh.edu/GISP2/MoreInfo/Ice_Cores_Past.html

Of course this hasn't convinced some people who still take their talking points from Jerry Falwell.
http://www.wric.com/global/story.asp?s=6140669


A few posts that have responded to the very things you are belatedly saying...
http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=23734
http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=23915
http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=23821
http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=23721
http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=22948

PS.

Some of your leading scientists are now changing their mind with regards to this very thing... For instance, do a search and have a look as to what these guys have to say. And please dont think that these are all of them, its just a few that a simple google search would highlight.

1. Habibullo Abdussamatov, head of the space research laboratory of the Russia's renowned Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory, a member of Russia's Academy of Science.

2. Henk Tennekes, former director of research at the Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute.

3. Henrik Svensmark, director of the Centre for Sun-Climate Research at the Danish Space Research Institute.

4. Edward Wegman, chair of the National Academy of Sciences' Committee on Applied and Theoretical Statistics.

5. Richard S. J. Tol, director of the Centre for Marine and Atmospheric Science at the Institute for Environmental Studies at Vrije Universiteit.

6. Christopher Landsea of the Atlantic Oceanographic & Meteorological Laboratory.

7. Richard Lindzen, professor of meteorology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and a member of the National Academy of Sciences.

The tip of the iceberg in the scientific community who are reversing their positions or finally coming out and speaking against the man causing the global warming catastrophe political sham.

Parkbandit
04-03-2007, 09:27 PM
Do you understand the law in the least, PB?

Use your nogin to figure out why the USSC had to rule this way. Whether CO2 emissions have the slightest to do w/ global warming or not -- they impact the environment. Therefore, jurisdiction to control them is within the scope of the EPA. It's not rocket science.

You're a fucking loony of Backlash proportions when it comes to global warming. You need to find a different bandwagon for a few weeks and give this one some rest. Gain a little perspective.


When your carbon footprint is as low as mine.. I'll consider your request. Until then, continue to ruin this earth until it is a ball of flames.. you fucking environmentalist hater.

Parkbandit
04-03-2007, 09:32 PM
A few posts that have responded to the very things you are belatedly saying...
http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=23734
http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=23915
http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=23821
http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=23721
http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=22948

PS.

Some of your leading scientists are now changing their mind with regards to this very thing... For instance, do a search and have a look as to what these guys have to say. And please dont think that these are all of them, its just a few that a simple google search would highlight.

1. Habibullo Abdussamatov, head of the space research laboratory of the Russia's renowned Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory, a member of Russia's Academy of Science.

2. Henk Tennekes, former director of research at the Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute.

3. Henrik Svensmark, director of the Centre for Sun-Climate Research at the Danish Space Research Institute.

4. Edward Wegman, chair of the National Academy of Sciences' Committee on Applied and Theoretical Statistics.

5. Richard S. J. Tol, director of the Centre for Marine and Atmospheric Science at the Institute for Environmental Studies at Vrije Universiteit.

6. Christopher Landsea of the Atlantic Oceanographic & Meteorological Laboratory.

7. Richard Lindzen, professor of meteorology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and a member of the National Academy of Sciences.

The tip of the iceberg in the scientific community who are reversing their positions or finally coming out and speaking against the man causing the global warming catastrophe political sham.


Oh stop your bullshit Ganalon.. what's next.. you going to post this link:

http://www.schnittshow.com/globalwarming.html

Showing some 135 sites that refute the global warming facts? It's nothing but BULLSHIT Conservative rhetoric!

Ignot
04-03-2007, 09:35 PM
Im to selfish to care about global warming.


Although....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5r6TqpOQGc

Some Rogue
04-04-2007, 01:31 AM
Quite a few credible scientists on this program who don't agree too.

The Great Global Warming Swindle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XttV2C6B8pU

Caiylania
04-04-2007, 04:40 AM
Whether or not Global Warming is what many make it out to be- why is it wrong to want to care about the earth? I really don't understand how being an environmentalist became a bad thing.

Does there have to be a problem before we fix it? Controlling waste (personally I think even recycling should be required by law) and emissions/pollution etc should be a good thing.

Don't we want our kids to have clean air, parks, forests, etc?

Doing a little goes a long way. Believing in Global Warming aside- even if it isn't here now- shouldn't we then prevent it from ever happening because of us?

One time I saw some guys throwing beer cans and trash out their car window... someone else cleaned it up and got picked on about it. Would you pick on someone for keeping their car clean? Their house? Their children? Yet many people pick on those that are trying to help keep Earth clean for everyone.

Bartlett
04-04-2007, 06:03 AM
This is the bedrock of the whole global warming doomsday movement. It is entirely fallacious to say that folks who disagree that humans are torching the earth hate environmentally sound thinking. It is the lying and, dare I use the words fear mongering tactics that are being pushed as a political tool for political tools. Some people treat the earth like dirt, and that has to stop. Not too many people disagree with that sentiment. It is the catering to a fear response and the cuddle up to a tree combination that gets the mass public on board with this silliness. After all, even if it isn't true, we will be better off with less CO2, and less republicans who love oil so much they would drink it for breakfast if it weren't toxic.

Caiylania
04-04-2007, 06:37 AM
I never said that all people who do not believe in global warming hate enviromentally sound thinking.

My question was simply, regardless on whether global warming is true or not- why do so many people ridicule people who take those extra steps.

Many of my friends think Global warming is a myth but still recycle, carpool, etc...

But some of the posts in this thread were, imo, along the lines of not caring about Earth at all. Which I don't understand...


This is the bedrock of the whole global warming doomsday movement. It is entirely fallacious to say that folks who disagree that humans are torching the earth hate environmentally sound thinking. It is the lying and, dare I use the words fear mongering tactics that are being pushed as a political tool for political tools. Some people treat the earth like dirt, and that has to stop. Not too many people disagree with that sentiment. It is the catering to a fear response and the cuddle up to a tree combination that gets the mass public on board with this silliness. After all, even if it isn't true, we will be better off with less CO2, and less republicans who love oil so much they would drink it for breakfast if it weren't toxic.

Parkbandit
04-04-2007, 07:36 AM
I never said that all people who do not believe in global warming hate enviromentally sound thinking.

My question was simply, regardless on whether global warming is true or not- why do so many people ridicule people who take those extra steps.

Many of my friends think Global warming is a myth but still recycle, carpool, etc...

But some of the posts in this thread were, imo, along the lines of not caring about Earth at all. Which I don't understand...

Actually.. I don't think many people ridicule those who take the extra steps... at least I don't. I conserve energy.. but because I don't believe in this conspiracy.. I'm viewed as a hater of the environment... which couldn't be further from the truth.

I tend to ridicule people like Gore or Travolta who are all "We must all do our part to stop global warming and we must act responsibly N-O-W!" yet live in houses like this:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e6/belike53/travoltas_house.jpg

Those are the people I make fun of.. who believe that as long as you buy 'carbon offsets' you can live however the hell you want.. environment be damned. They have the "Do what I say, not as I do" type mentality to this.. that the lower forms of human life should be conserving and going on mass transit.. but that type of behavior is below them as they are rich and they can do as they please.

I'll make fun of those types all day long.

Back
04-04-2007, 08:52 AM
Those are the people I make fun of.. who believe that as long as you buy 'carbon offsets' you can live however the hell you want.. environment be damned. They have the "Do what I say, not as I do" type mentality to this.. that the lower forms of human life should be conserving and going on mass transit.. but that type of behavior is below them as they are rich and they can do as they please.

I'll make fun of those types all day long.

rofl. I think the real issue is you are upset they are rich. Nothing else.

Some Rogue
04-04-2007, 09:12 AM
They have the "Do what I say, not as I do" type mentality to this.. that the lower forms of human life should be conserving and going on mass transit.. but that type of behavior is below them as they are rich and they can do as they please.


Very good point about this at the end of that movie I linked. We want third world, developing countries to use solar and wind power, the most expensive and least reliable forms of energy...while we just go on burning coal and oil like there's no tomorrow.

Artha
04-04-2007, 09:20 AM
rofl. I think the real issue is you are upset they are rich. Nothing else.
Hahaha.

edit: A lefty saying this to a righty is just really, really funny.

Back
04-04-2007, 09:35 AM
Hahaha.

edit: A lefty saying this to a righty is just really, really funny.

Its the only thing I can think of because everything else just does not make sense. Someone in an upper income bracket believes in doing their part to lower their impact on the environment then going about doing that. PB seems to think that even though they are doing what they are saying compared to other people in their income bracket that they are... what? Not doing enough? Compared to who?

Parkbandit
04-04-2007, 09:50 AM
rofl. I think the real issue is you are upset they are rich. Nothing else.

LOL.

You found me out Comrade.. I'm actually a communist just like you.. and hope this helps to spread the wealth!!!

Parkbandit
04-04-2007, 09:55 AM
Its the only thing I can think of because everything else just does not make sense. Someone in an upper income bracket believes in doing their part to lower their impact on the environment then going about doing that. PB seems to think that even though they are doing what they are saying compared to other people in their income bracket that they are... what? Not doing enough? Compared to who?

Here's the problem.. it was the only thing you could think of. I'm not surprised it was a really, really stupid thought... it seems to be your nature.

My issue is that someone in an upper income bracket is SAYING that everyone BUT them should be doing their part. This is clearly illustrated by the picture of John Travolta's house. Not only is it huge and an energy consuming giant.. he has not one but two jets parked in his 'garage'.

I find it extremely hypocritical of him to talk about global warming and that people should be conserving... I'm not shocked you don't.

Parkbandit
04-04-2007, 09:56 AM
Hahaha.

edit: A lefty saying this to a righty is just really, really funny.


the sad part is.. he wasn't trying to be funny.

Gan
04-04-2007, 10:10 AM
Something about the Travolta home photo bugs me. The garage, runway space for the G3 looks accurate. But the other 4 engine heavy parked on the other side of the house looks like it doesnt fit in that area. Not to mention the wash from that particular engine/plane combo would have really wreaked havoc with the foliage standing nearby.

Anyone hazard a guess as to what kind of plane that is? It looks like a small body, but with 4 engines???

Back
04-04-2007, 10:15 AM
Here's the problem.. it was the only thing you could think of. I'm not surprised it was a really, really stupid thought... it seems to be your nature.

My issue is that someone in an upper income bracket is SAYING that everyone BUT them should be doing their part. This is clearly illustrated by the picture of John Travolta's house. Not only is it huge and an energy consuming giant.. he has not one but two jets parked in his 'garage'.

I find it extremely hypocritical of him to talk about global warming and that people should be conserving... I'm not shocked you don't.

If what you are claiming is true about Travolta, then yeah, have at it man. If you don’t walk the walk, don’t talk the talk. But you just can not say that about Gore. If that really was the case as some of you claim he would never have gotten anywhere with his Oscar winning documentary.

Gan
04-04-2007, 10:35 AM
Yes, you can say the very same thing about Gore, and Edwards...

And ROFL at Backlash glossing over the whole left-wing liberal hollywood tree-hugger doomsday fictumentary connection.

Whimsi
04-04-2007, 12:56 PM
http://maddox.xmission.com/

Parkbandit
04-04-2007, 01:51 PM
If what you are claiming is true about Travolta, then yeah, have at it man. If you don’t walk the walk, don’t talk the talk. But you just can not say that about Gore. If that really was the case as some of you claim he would never have gotten anywhere with his Oscar winning documentary.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAA..

OMG, You couldn't be a bigger joke. It's like I think you've reached the plateau of ignorance.. and you actually build a tower to climb higher.

So, because Gore made a mockumentary and won a Oscar.. means that he is above the fray of putting your mouth where your "documentary" is?

If I was home, you would be awarded the Dumbshit award of the day for that logic.

Gan
04-04-2007, 01:59 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAA..

OMG, You couldn't be a bigger joke. It's like I think you've reached the plateau of ignorance.. and you actually build a tower to climb higher.

So, because Gore made a mockumentary and won a Oscar.. means that he is above the fray of putting your mouth where your "documentary" is?

If I was home, you would be awarded the Dumbshit award of the day for that logic.

You can always award it posthumously...

Back
04-04-2007, 02:15 PM
Broken record, broken record, broken record...

Gan
04-04-2007, 02:19 PM
Broken record, broken record, broken record...

:deadhorse:

CrystalTears
04-04-2007, 02:42 PM
But you just can not say that about Gore.
Whoa, why the hell not?

If that really was the case as some of you claim he would never have gotten anywhere with his Oscar winning documentary.
LOL! Oh I'm sorry, because he's a STAR! Oh please.

A documentary.... ahahaha! I bet you believe Michael Moore's films are documentaries too. :lol:

Parkbandit
04-04-2007, 03:32 PM
Broken record, broken record, broken record...

Am I the only one that sees this when I hear Backlash's comebacks like this?

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e6/belike53/BacklashJr.jpg

Gan
04-04-2007, 03:35 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Skeeter
04-04-2007, 03:37 PM
Something about the Travolta home photo bugs me. The garage, runway space for the G3 looks accurate. But the other 4 engine heavy parked on the other side of the house looks like it doesnt fit in that area. Not to mention the wash from that particular engine/plane combo would have really wreaked havoc with the foliage standing nearby.

Anyone hazard a guess as to what kind of plane that is? It looks like a small body, but with 4 engines???

no idea about the plane, but I'd guess it was towed too and from the runway which would explain the close trees.

Gan
04-04-2007, 03:44 PM
no idea about the plane, but I'd guess it was towed too and from the runway which would explain the close trees.

Yea, I thought about that afterwards. Makes sense to have it towed to and from the parking area. Still looks like an awfully big jet to own for personal use. Especially with the range of the G3 thats parked on the other side of the house. He must have one hell of an entourage...

Parkbandit
04-04-2007, 04:01 PM
It's one of five jets he currently owns. The small jet is a Gulfstream and the large one in question is a Boeing 707B.

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/707family/product.html

DeV
04-04-2007, 04:29 PM
He can pilot those suckers too. That's pimp.

But preaching global warming... definitely not the man for the job by a longshot.

Parkbandit
04-04-2007, 06:32 PM
I have zero problem with a guy owning as many jets as he wants.. or a huge ass house. That's his business.

But when you try preaching people on how they should lead their life.. while clearly not following your own preaching... you are a fucking dicksplash imo.

CrystalTears
04-05-2007, 10:00 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v412/Jemah/screwfuture.jpg (http://www.cafepress.com/buy/news/-/pv_design_details/pg_1/id_17731666/opt_/fpt_/c_360/?CMP=EMC_20070405wire)
(http://www.cafepress.com/buy/news/-/pv_design_details/pg_1/id_17731666/opt_/fpt_/c_360/?CMP=EMC_20070405wire)

Gan
04-05-2007, 10:03 AM
:rofl:

Thats avatar worthy.

TheEschaton
04-05-2007, 10:33 AM
Maybe for PB it is. :P

-TheE-

Sean of the Thread
04-05-2007, 10:35 AM
Dude some spend some of his jack on a grounds keeper.

What a crazy lil community.

http://jumbolair.com/

Parkbandit
04-05-2007, 11:39 AM
Maybe for PB it is. :P

-TheE-

LOL.

Jerk.

Skeeter
04-05-2007, 12:47 PM
Yea, I thought about that afterwards. Makes sense to have it towed to and from the parking area. Still looks like an awfully big jet to own for personal use. Especially with the range of the G3 thats parked on the other side of the house. He must have one hell of an entourage...

I *think* I read somewhere that he hires himself and his plane out for rental purposes. Dude just loves to fly.