PETA on trial for cruelty to animals

[Gan]

WINTON - All around this struggling farm town, chicken houses stand in the fields as a testament to the way many here earn their living -- raising, slaughtering and processing chickens.

It is an unlikely locale for an unlikely criminal case. Today, two employees of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, a radical animal-rights group that opposes meat-eating, are on trial for the strangest of charges: killing animals

Now, two of its employees stand accused of tossing garbage bags full of euthanized cats and dogs into a Dumpster behind a Piggly Wiggly in Hertford County, 130 miles northeast of Raleigh.

Adria J. Hinkle and Andrew B. Cook, both of whom work in PETA's Norfolk office, are charged with 21 counts each of animal cruelty, a felony that can carry prison time, along with littering and obtaining property by false pretenses.

A PETA spokeswoman, Kathy Guillermo, said PETA never wanted to get into the business of euthanizing animals. But she said the group couldn't ignore the horrible conditions in animal shelters around Norfolk and in northeastern North Carolina. The group now euthanizes thousands of animals a year.

"Euthanasia is a better alternative to sitting in a stinking pound," Guillermo said.

http://www.newsobserver.com/102/story/535593.html
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ROFL at the irony! Or is it hypocracy?

[Fallen]

What is even better is when PETA breaks into a lab and Liberates the Animals!!!!!!! They are all either eaten, starve, or die of exposure.

[CrystalTears]

I hate PETA.

[Skeeter]

I do like the naked celebs that support PETA

[Parkbandit]

It's hypocracy.

[Sean]

I was unaware that Piggly Wiggly actually existed.

[zhelas]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/31/96892594_14e1fe2717.jpg
"So would you like to know how far down my stripes go?"

Aren't they the ones that what folks to go and buy lobsters at grocery markets and set them free? Because they have feelings and strong family values?

[Skeeter]

the state of the union undress was great to watch with no sound on.

[CrystalTears]

the state of the union undress was great to watch with no sound on.
Someone's lost. :)

[Skeeter]

Someone's lost, but it's not me.

[CrystalTears]

Ah okay, you're not referring to the actual State of the Union. Carry on then.

[Skeeter]

the state of the union undress was great to watch with no sound on.

I'm not THAT bad of a speller.

[CrystalTears]

OMG my bad okay! Sheesh. :P

[Latrinsorm]

The word is hypocrisy. H Y P O H R Y S A N T H E M U M. Chrysanthemum.

If PETA has the resources to support breaking into places and stealing dozens of animals... why don't they just give funding to the pounds to improve them?

[Stanley Burrell]

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Someone's lost, but it's not me.[/QUOTE]

Wow. In my utmost respect for people who support any cause and as a self-proclaimed feminist, non-cheuvinist...

I inquire with the following,

Which is:

"How that shit gonna be convincin' if I ain't even gettin' mah dick blown?"

[Shari]

The word is hypocrisy. H Y P O H R Y S A N T H E M U M. Chrysanthemum.

If PETA has the resources to support breaking into places and stealing dozens of animals... why don't they just give funding to the pounds to improve them?

THANK YOU


I have been in several county-run shelters around the Phoenix area. No, they're no where near the luxury of living in a loving, human home. But they are fed and the cages are kept in MUCH better condition then say...a PUPPY FARM.

PETA is a rediculous group that has good intentions with usually disastrous results.

[Atlanteax]

PETA is a rediculous group that has good intentions with usually disastrous results.

This applies to the ACLU too. Uncanny.

[Jazuela]

Related only because this thread is about animal cruelty to domestic pet-type critters:

I just adopted a feline playmate for my 6-year-old cat, Sinchi. I got her from the pound in the next town. They told me this one (4 years old, spayed, declawed, named Angelica and now renamed Jelly-Belly) was left behind in an apartment after the tenants moved out. She was half-starved to death when they found her.

We have dozens of pet organizations here in Connecticut (and I imagine in most states), and I just can't understand why they couldn't simply make a detour to one of them and drop her off at the doorstep in a box if they were that needy to get rid of her.

My other cat (Sinchilla, aka Sinchi) is currently hiding behind our bed, growling. She'll get over it, heh - it's almost supper time :)

I intend to fatten Jelly-Belly up a bit, but she looks very small-boned and will probably always be a tiny little nothing of a cat. But she has the most AMAZING blue-flecked green eyes I've ever seen - they're round as marbles and enormous. She's a long-hair mix-breed with a "lion face" - that neato shading at the bridge of the nose, with spotted silver, tawny, and dark-grey fur. She needs some fish oil too - her fur is very dull and needs to get shined up a bit. Maybe a little bit of raw egg for a few days too.

For now I'm just going to let her and Sinchi duke it out til they get used to each other. Should be an interesting night :)

[TheEschaton]

Uh, comparing the ACLU and PETA is completely invalid.


The ACLU doesn't break any laws, and simply protects the civil liberties of everyone. From gays to the KKK, from terrorists to soldiers. Most libertarians I know love the ACLU. The rest are political hacks who aren't really libertarians but want the political capital of being associated with a movement with "liberty" in the label.

-TheE-

[Atlanteax]

The ACLU .. simply protects the civil liberties of everyone....
-TheE-

If you say so...

[TheEschaton]

Please provide an example where they have tried to subvert civil liberties.


-TheE-

[Shari]

I have to say, that shelter pets are the BEST pets. Adopted both my dogs. I will never buy from a petstore, and I always encourage others not to do so either.

[Stanley Burrell]

Please provide an example where they have tried to subvert civil liberties.


-TheE-

Why they gotta be called yellow and black labs? Huh?

[Skirmisher]

This applies to the ACLU too. Uncanny.

No.

[Sean of the Thread]

Fuck pet stores do your research and buy from a breeder. Second option for me is of course it to adopt if you a match.

<3 my dogs.

[HarmNone]

If I were searching for a pet, I'd certainly look at a shelter. Problem is, I never find myself searching for a pet. I think there must be some kind of sign in my front garden that can be read only by cats. It must say something like: "Come on in!" We've always got plenty of volunteers. :D

Last year, a young dog showed up. I couldn't bring him in. The cats would have made mincemeat of the poor thing. So, I put him in the garage, went down to the pet store and bought a collar and leash, and went for a walk with pup. Within a few blocks, we found home. :)

[Sean of the Thread]

Typical pagan shit.

[zhelas]

http://media.hamptonroads.com/media/content/pilotonline/2007/01/peta400x300.jpg

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/index.cfm

[zhelas]

The most heart-wrenching detail in the prosecution's case so far involves a cat and two kittens Hinkle and Cook allegedly took from the Ahoskie Animal Hospital on the false promise that PETA would find them adoptive homes. Asbell describes the scene:



On this day, on June 15, [an Ahoskie Animal Hospital employee] called and said that they had a momma cat and two kittens, and they were in good shape. They wanted to adopt them out. When Ms. Hinkle and Mr. Cook went to the shelter on that date, they walked inside, and Ms. Tonya Northcott, one of the employees at the Ahoskie Animal Hospital, came out from the back, and said "You're here for the kittens, the cat and the kittens." … And she said "yes." She went back to the back, got the carrier, got the momma cat, got the two baby kittens, brought them out, and handed them to Ms. Hinkle.



Ms. Northcott said to her: "These animals -- you're not going to have any -- well, you'll be able to adopt these cats out. We've socialized them, we've played with them, they've had their shots, everything's fine with them." Ms. Hinkle looked at Ms. Northcott and said: "We'll have no problem finding homes for these cats. None at all."



There was a little girl standing in the front as well. And the little girl had adopted the brother of one of the kittens. And she was looking at the kittens. And Ms. Hinkle looked at her and said: "We'll have no problem placing, we'll have no problem helping these cats" … At that point, Ms. Hinkle and Mr. Cook left, they took the cats, left, went out and got back in the van.



Those cats ended up in a trash dumpster less than an hour later.
http://www.petakillsanimals.com/Trial_Day3.cfm

[zhelas]

A petition to have PETA's tax-exemption status removed

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/article_detail.cfm?article=154

[Back]

Have you asked yourself... Who runs that site and why?

[CrystalTears]

If they were democratically run, would you be okay with it? If people are against PETA, does it matter who runs it?

[zhelas]

Have you asked yourself... Who runs that site and why?

Yep. And personally I think PETA. Has great intentions, however it is part of the hypocracy that it preaches. Sure there are way too many pets and animals and you know what putting them to sleep is probably the best. However is that part of the solution.

Edited
Here is another scenario. PETA does not want hunters to go and hunt and kill deer for food etc. However in certain areas of the country, like Connecticut, the deer population is out of control. During the winter months the deer die of starvation because there is not enough food. Starvation is a cruel way to die. With controlled hunting the deer population can be reduced to help prevent that.

Now tell me what is different in what they are doing with the over population of dogs and cats? This is another reason why I dislike PETA.

[Parkbandit]

Have you asked yourself... Who runs that site and why?

Probably George W Bush.. I hear he hates:

1) Muslims
2) Black People
3) Poor People
4) Animals

[CrystalTears]

Here is another scenario. PETA does not want hunters to go and hunt and kill deer for food etc. However in certain areas of the country, like Connecticut, the deer population is out of control. During the winter months the deer die of starvation because there is not enough food. Starvation is a cruel way to die. With controlled hunting the deer population can be reduced to help prevent that.
And they're so tasty. It would be a waste of good venison stew and soupy. :D

[DeV]

They kill kittens.

There is something very wrong with that.

[Artha]

I kill kittens whenever possible.

[Skeeter]

Happiness is a rectilinear kitten.

[zhelas]

And they're so tasty. It would be a waste of good venison stew and soupy. :D

Mmm venison stew... :love:

[DeV]

I kill kittens whenever possible.Yes, but you get a pass since you promised not to turn into a serial killer in exchange. And you only kill naughty kittens. PETA does not discriminate. Bastards.

[TheEschaton]

PETA is too fucking hippie even for me.

Animals are animals. I agree that we should treat animals humanely when we slaughter them, but A) the idea that killing animals because killing animals is somehow wrong is inherently flawed and contradicted by natural law, B) we should treat them humanely not because animals should be treated humanely, but because humans should always act humanely.

-TheE-

[Satira]

Years ago when I was vegan, I was a member of PETA. At the time I only paid attention to the outside slogans along the lines of, "OH YA WE CARE ABOUT ANIMALS" and ended up joining (which really just gives you a bunch of junk mail, nothing interesting).

After I looked into it I found I didn't agree with anything they were doing. Their protests and courses of action seemed/seem illogical to me, and it's hard for me to chalk it up to them having good intentions. I think they're just CRAZY intentions.

[ElanthianSiren]

The word is hypocrisy. H Y P O H R Y S A N T H E M U M. Chrysanthemum.

If PETA has the resources to support breaking into places and stealing dozens of animals... why don't they just give funding to the pounds to improve them?

X2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10.

-M
PETA is often ridiculously extreme.

[ElanthianSiren]

Here is another scenario. PETA does not want hunters to go and hunt and kill deer for food etc. However in certain areas of the country, like Connecticut, the deer population is out of control. During the winter months the deer die of starvation because there is not enough food. Starvation is a cruel way to die. With controlled hunting the deer population can be reduced to help prevent that.

Now tell me what is different in what they are doing with the over population of dogs and cats? This is another reason why I dislike PETA.

They do that here in Valley Forge Park too. It sucks. The rangers wanted to close the park and open it for doe shooting (if you're a biologist, you realize why that's good), and PETA and a bunch of wackos staged a protest. Instead of letting men and women come in to hunt deer FOR FOOD, they brought in sharp shooters at night and slaughtered the deer (not for food).

-M

edit: I should point out that I adore animals, all animals, even snakes (someone make the trouser snake joke please). In my mind, the problem isn't that we kill animals for food and clothing, as PETA maintains. I will argue that having carnivorous teeth, biologically, amounts to an evolutionary drive to eat meat. Like Indian Americans, I have a problem when people don't respect the animals that were killed, hence I actually have a bigger problem with PETA in most cases than with hunters and ranchers.

[Jazuela]

I've seen PETA members wear leather shoes. And clothing made by sweatshops where humans (which also happens to be a species of animal) are treated inhumanely.

[zhelas]

I've seen PETA members wear leather shoes. And clothing made by sweatshops where humans (which also happens to be a species of animal) are treated inhumanely.

One of my colleagues is a vegan, supports PETA and rags on me for eating meat. The other day I saw her wearing some designer leather shoes because she liked them. All I can say was the boxing gloves came off.

[Gan]

A petition to have PETA's tax-exemption status removed

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/article_detail.cfm?article=154

"Thank you for signing the petition and making your voice heard. We have collected 135,019 signatures so far! "

Thanks for the petition link. ;)

[Stanley Burrell]

All that I have to say concerning PETA is that I can't find the image of the Vegan lion from a Futurama episode and it makes the children cry.

That, and even Jack Kevorkian would have reservations on "ending misery" as a PETA activist, probably.

[Methais]

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Someone's lost, but it's not me.[/QUOTE]

I've been banned for less than that...twice :(

[Sean of the Thread]

I've been banned for less than that...twice :(

Because the mods have no bias and are fair and balanced.




ahahhahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

[Skirmisher]

I've been banned for less than that...twice :(


Because the mods have no bias and are fair and balanced.




ahahhahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

Wah wah wah.

http://www.m-dalgas.dk/images/random/whining_baby.jpg

[CrystalTears]

Yeah that's helpful. :tongue:

[Parkbandit]

At least Skirm isn't denying it.

It's obvious to most though.. so not much sense in denying it I suppose.

[Back]

At least Skirm isn't denying it.

It's obvious to most though.. so not much sense in denying it I suppose.

So its trendy to bash moderators instead of whinning/attention whore posters now? I can never keep up with you guys.

[Skeeter]

Thanks Methais your crybaby bullshit got the post pulled and got me 30 points. you fucking whiney ass douchebag.


not that I really care about 30pts. but QQ more you fucking moron.

[Sean]

Are you going to assign Jenisi 30 pts for posting the link and then deleting it in the state of the union thread because thats the precident you set when you assigned Sean2 pts for posting something that was against the ToS and then deleting it after people saw it.

[HarmNone]

I never saw Jenisi's post. I did see Sean2's post. Had I seen Jenisi's, the same assessment would have applied.

[CrystalTears]

Go look at it then. If you're going to apply points to deleted posts as well, continue the flow.

[HarmNone]

Sean2's post was not deleted when I saw it.

[Skeeter]

you posted in this thread earlier and apparently saw no problem with the link.

[Parkbandit]

I never saw Jenisi's post. I did see Sean2's post. Had I seen Jenisi's, the same assessment would have applied.

That's convenient.