Worst name in politics today:

[Parkbandit]

Barack Hussein Obama


And for all those libs out there that have been bashing Bush about his partying past.. I really hope you will show the same regard to Barack, who has already acknowledged using pot and Coke.

[Jorddyn]

Barack Hussein Obama


And for all those libs out there that have been bashing Bush about his partying past.. I really hope you will show the same regard to Barack, who has already acknowledged using pot and Coke.

I have no problem with those who freely admit it.

I have a problem with people who avoid/ignore the topic and bash others who have done it.

And yes, I think Clinton was a dumbass for the whole "didn't inhale" thing.

Jorddyn

[Ilvane]

heh, whatever PB.

Is that really the best they can come up with against him?

I never disliked Bush for trying drugs, I disliked him for being an idiot.

Angela

[Parkbandit]

I don't think 'they' came up with anything. He freely admitted doing cocaine in a book about 10 years ago.

And by they.. do you mean the Republicans or the other Democrats who are running against him? Personally, I think Obama should be more worried about Clinton than any Republican.

[Methais]

Wasn't there a senator in Rhode Island a while back named Dick Sweat?

[DeV]

I have no problem with those who freely admit it.

I have a problem with people who avoid/ignore the topic and bash others who have done it.

And yes, I think Clinton was a dumbass for the whole "didn't inhale" thing.

JorddynCosign.

[Stanley Burrell]

Bush, Dick and Colon (Collin) beat the shit out of any political name brigade IMHO.

[Stanley Burrell]

Wasn't there a senator in Rhode Island a while back named Dick Sweat?

NH, I think.

[Skeeter]

I'd vote for dick sweat

[Sean of the Thread]

Wasn't there a senator or two who got away with murder and drug scandals in MA?

[Sean of the Thread]

I'd vote for dick sweat

For the same reason that you would vote for gay marriage.

[Ilvane]

Try to keep it on topic, guys? LOL

Angela

[Skeeter]

I do believe that was an attempt at moderation. :wow:
If your name is kennedy you can kill a bitch or 2.

wouldn't surprise me if Obama was the first black pres.

[Satira]

I'm with Jorddyn on this one.

Lots of people try drugs when they're young. Big deal. Avoiding the subject or being insincere about it gets an eye roll from me.

I'd prefer they own up to doing them, regardless of party.

[Ilvane]

Yes, yes it was.;)

I do that every so often.;)

Political name. Try being a Kennedy and NOT be associated with something bad.

That's sad considering how much good the Kennedy's have done.

Angela

[Sean of the Thread]

Yes, yes it was.;)

I do that every so often.;)

Political name. Try being a Kennedy and NOT be associated with something bad.

That's sad considering how much good the Kennedy's have done.

Angela

They've done much worse than good.

[Methais]

Try to keep it on topic, guys? LOL

Angela

Dick Sweat is on topic.

[Parkbandit]

That's deserving considering how much bad the Kennedy's have done.

[Parkbandit]

I'm with Jorddyn on this one.

Lots of people try drugs when they're young. Big deal. Avoiding the subject or being insincere about it gets an eye roll from me.

I'd prefer they own up to doing them, regardless of party.


Yet.. you had no issue with Clinton doing it about Monica.

Classic.

It's a catch 22.

Condemn him like you (liberals) did to Bush.. and you are bashing your own party.

Proclaim it's fine with Obama, but it wasn't with Bush and you are a hypocrite.

Declare it's different with Obama.. because he's admitted it.. and you again are a hypocrite because you defended Clinton with that same excuse.

It's fun to watch libs squirm on this.

:popcorn:

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People can change their habits but not their stupidity.

[zhelas]

Lots of people try drugs when they're young. Big deal.

Just ask Marion Barry. ;)

[Parkbandit]

People can change their habits but not their stupidity.

Yes, we know Backlash.. which is why I've refrained from replying to you.

[DeV]

Just ask Marion Barry. ;)
Effin' crackhead.

[zhelas]

Effin' crackhead.

True and wasn't he re-elected after being caught?

[Sean of the Thread]

True and wasn't he re-elected after being caught?

By democrats.

[DeV]

"Goddamn setup . . . I'll be goddamn . . . bitch set me up."

[zhelas]

And another wonder name from politics :thumbdown:

David Ernest Duke (born July 1, 1950) is a former Louisiana Republican state representative, a Presidential Primary candidate for both the Democratic and Republican Parties, former Imperial Wizard of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan.

:banghead: No wonder why I hate politicians.

[Jorddyn]

Yet.. you had no issue with Clinton doing it about Monica.

New topic - I think Clinton was a jackass for lying about it. I think Ken Starr was a bigger jackass for "investigating" it while investigating real estate deals from before he even knew her. I think the house was full of jackasses for impeaching him.


Proclaim it's fine with Obama, but it wasn't with Bush and you are a hypocrite.

Declare it's different with Obama.. because he's admitted it.. and you again are a hypocrite because you defended Clinton with that same excuse.

See the part of my previous post that you conveniently did not quote.



It's fun to watch libs squirm on this.


It's amusing that you consider this squirming.

Jorddyn

[Parkbandit]

I'm amused you can actually post your convenient reasoning and not consider yourself a hypocrite.

[Satira]

Actually I thought Clinton was a schmuck for lying about Monica and for saying he didn't inhale.

Way to continue your tirade with lumped assumptions and without actually considering the view point of the person you were attacking.

[zhelas]

New topic - I think Clinton was a jackass for lying about it. I think Ken Starr was a bigger jackass for "investigating" it while investigating real estate deals from before he even knew her. I think the house was full of jackasses for impeaching him.

Mmm all that money that was spent on this spectacle.

[zhelas]

John Kerry another winner! Ding Ding Ding Ding! Know any good jokes lately?

[zhelas]

Quail err Quayle now how do you spell it?

[zhelas]

You have to admit with the current times that having a name like Obama and having CNN make the mistake of calling him Osama, would make him a candidate for this group of bad names.

[zhelas]

Walter Mondale: "Let's tell the truth. Mr. Reagan will raise taxes, and so will I. He won't tell you. I just did."

Bush senior definately falls into this category. Whatever the thousand points of light were. "No new taxes." Seems there is a strong trend with Bush. Like father like son.

[Bobmuhthol]

Read the first post.

[zhelas]

Read the first post.

Whoops .. very true but mine is slightly different though PB mentioned it first.

[Parkbandit]

Jesus.. it's like you are posting to yourself.. then replying.


Take some Ritalin or something.

[Alfster]

or smoke some weed

[Back]

Take some Ritalin or something.

If anyone needs Ritalin its you. Something to calm you down so you quit flying wildly off the handle... Ritalin, smoke a joint, have a cocktail, take a lude, get laid, hell even a Tylenol PM would do the trick.

[Parkbandit]

If anyone needs Ritalin its you. Something to calm you down so you quit flying wildly off the handle... Ritalin, smoke a joint, have a cocktail, take a lude, get laid, hell even a Tylenol PM would do the trick.

I used to smoke pot all the time.. then I hit 22 and became responsible.

Give it a try.

[Alfster]

If anyone needs Ritalin its you. Something to calm you down so you quit flying wildly off the handle... Ritalin, smoke a joint, have a cocktail, take a lude, get laid, hell even a Tylenol PM would do the trick.

Backlash telling someone they need to get laid

ROFL

[Sean of the Thread]

Do webcam sessions count as being laid Backlash?

[Back]

Do webcam sessions count as being laid Backlash?

Ask Alfster.

[Sean of the Thread]

Ask Alfster.

I forgot you got denied loving from Leetah... that's sad man.

[Tsa`ah]

I really detest how these things become partisan and how either side takes something so fucking trivial and runs with it.

First is his name ... it's just his fucking name. His parents weren't clairvoyant and probably had no clue who Sadam or Osama were, let alone how they would turn out.

Had he legally changed his name 10 years ago (using his awesome powers of fortune telling) ... it would be out now and we would still have this post here bashing something he has no controll of.

Drug use ... let's be a bit more specific. He admitted to doing it in writting 12 years ago as a teenager. That cat has been out of the bag for some time; a good deal of time before becoming a State senator.

Bush on the other hand partied like a frat boy until he "saw the light" of a political career through the religious right vote .... after it was apparent that he couldn't hack it any other way. He already had responsibilities of family and business.

Clinton was an idiot when responding to the question. His sex life never should have been brought to trial and Star should be hanged by his fucking nuts and beat like a pinata until every wasted tax dollar bursts out of him.

Then there's this ...


I used to smoke pot all the time.. then I hit 22 and became responsible.

So it's fine for you, but not anyone else?

I'm sorry, but people do stupid shit when they're young. I have more trust in people who are honest about it and took responsibility for their lives when the need was presented.

I smoked pot, drank like a fish, partied, experimented ... all before 21. At 21 it slowed down, when my wife fist became pregnant I stopped.

The difference here is responsibility and reality. You took responsibility, I took responsibility, and millions of others took responsibility. This isn't the 80's where "if you smoke pot you'll do other drugs and be a loser the rest of your life". This is the new millennium and we have more truths and more facts that overshadow the fear and guilt of that particular decade.

Did Bush lie about drug use? Too lazy to look into, but I do vaguely remember him telling a lie and then getting his chops busted.

Did Clinton lie? Yep, and it wasn't even a believable lie.

Did Obama lie? Nope ... pretty much cleared the closet almost 12 years ago.

Was it OK for Obama to use drugs? Nope ... then again he did it when the rest of us did. Georgie Boy partied on longer than most of us.

[Parkbandit]

Let's go point by point:

1) Never said anything about Obama.. except he had the worst name ever in politics. No shit he had nothing to do with it... never implied he changed his name to that.

2) My point about bringing up his drug use was that for all those libs, including yourself, who bashed Bush nonstop about his supposed use.. I hope that you would put the same scrutiny to Obama that you put to Bush.. otherwise, I'll call you out. Personally, I did drugs.. Bush did drugs and Obama did drugs. Means nothing to me, as long as they have stopped.

You bitch about how it's so partisan.. yet your post is littered with knocks against Bush. How about before you start with your holier than thou posts, you double check for the hypocracy in your words.

[Back]

Eh, making a new topic.

I expect there won’t be any republican criticism of Obama since everyone was fine with Bush’s past.

[ElanthianSiren]

This is probably the one time you'll see me stand up for Bush (oh and on immigration). Nobody's quite sure how long Bush partied because any pertinent evidence was allegedly sealed by his father. What exists is conjecture, often fueled by the book Fortunate Son. I don't hate anyone for using drugs, nor do I feel it impossible to do something with your life as a drug user. -Look at the father of modern psychology if you don't believe this.

In general, I feel sorry for people that use because they haven't taken the time to experiment with their own bodies and discover the better rush from: 1. falling/being in love (scientifically proven to release opiate-like chemicals in the brain).
2. adrenaline, adrenaline, adrenaline, which can mock some of the strongest stimulants and make your skin crawl deliciously.

Like many others, I find fault with Clinton for trying to be "cute" about his use. However, just because I don't smoke, drink, or do hard drugs, I don't begrudge people that do because it's not my life. :shrug: BTW, I love Obama. He's a great speaker with enough balls to disclose things like this in a climate dominated by "morality". People making fun of his name is going to happen though. Humans are tribal.

-M

[Sean of the Thread]

Clinton was an idiot when responding to the question. His sex life never should have been brought to trial




Ethics and morality.... of course it should be brought to trial WHEN YOU'RE THE PRESIDENT. Fine example. I know I've cheated on my wife at least three times since and used Clinton as an excuse since.


Considering drug use or admitted drug use disqualifies you from MOST positions of any responsibility ..... yes it's a big deal... no matter when it was done it is a measure of ones character especially in GOVERNMENT positions.

You sir..are a douche for thinking otherwise.

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Wait for it!

here it comes... Tsahs reply!
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I think everyone has it memorized since he can never counter with a tangible response.

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TSAH "you're inbred and uneducated even tho you have a degree and live in one of the biggest metro's in the country blah blah blah blah waaaaaaaaah"

Consider it a favor. I know you have better things to do with your time like monitoring buffets and shit.

[Parkbandit]

BTW, I love Obama. He's a great speaker
-M


So far, this is the only 'reason' I can find that people want to nominate him for President. Well, that and he's not Clinton, Gore or Kerry.

[CrystalTears]

Actually Tsa`ah has a point. His sex life should never have come into question. He should have plead the 5th, said hey, that's none of your business, talk to my lawyer, blah blah blah. Instead he decided to lie about it. As a lawyer, he royally screwed up.

[Parkbandit]

Actually, it is their business. He was being investigated and they come across a case of sexual harassment involving the president. Should they have just closed their eyes to the situation?

[Tsa`ah]

2) My point about bringing up his drug use was that for all those libs, including yourself, who bashed Bush nonstop about his supposed use.. I hope that you would put the same scrutiny to Obama that you put to Bush.. otherwise, I'll call you out. Personally, I did drugs.. Bush did drugs and Obama did drugs. Means nothing to me, as long as they have stopped.

Drug use is drug use and I'll agree that past use has very little bearing in the here and now.

You wanted to point out a hypocrisy, yet left out the fact of responsibility.

Obama doing drugs as a teen is no different than you, myself, or anyone really. Young people do stupid shit. So long as they didn't leave a lasting negative impact on another person or persons ... it's the stupidity of youth.

That being said, you can't compare a teenager's drug use to the drug use of an adult with responsibilities to others.

The comparison is rather moot to begin with. One freely admitted it prior to becoming a political wonder boy, the other tried to shove it under a very thin sheet of veneer.


You bitch about how it's so partisan.. yet your post is littered with knocks against Bush. How about before you start with your holier than thou posts, you double check for the hypocracy in your words.

My knocks on Bush are not partisan. He's the captain of a shit boat the crew didn't think worth mutineering ... so they bailed. I would feel the same way about him despite his political affiliation. My bashing him has nothing to do with partisanship. If it did, I'd have a long list GOP members with a past of drug use.


Ethics and morality.... of course it should be brought to trial WHEN YOU'RE THE PRESIDENT. Fine example. I know I've cheated on my wife at least three times since and used Clinton as an excuse since.

Ethics and morality ... these are abstract concepts that differ from one person to another.

Getting hummers from consenting adults outside of one's marriage is moral/ethical issue to be dealt by those involved in the marriage and act.

You can use someone else as an excuse all you want, it just reinforces my belief that you're a worthless piece of shit who can't justify his own actions and has to look elsewhere for validity.


Considering drug use or admitted drug use disqualifies you from MOST positions of any responsibility ..... yes it's a big deal... no matter when it was done it is a measure of ones character especially in GOVERNMENT positions.

Admitted drug use disqualifies you from very little, not even elected or appointed positions. It's a matter of a vote. If the voters think it's a big deal, they'll vote in such a manner, like wise if they don't.

As far as being a measure of character, I agree to a small extent. Not everyone experiments with drugs in their youth, but I would venture to guess that a large number do ... and then they grow up. Well most do, you have yet to show any signs.

It is a measure of character in that some show signs of personal and social responsibility ... they tried it, learned, and moved on. It's also a measure of character for those that tried, and keep trying.


You sir..are a douche for thinking otherwise.

Thanks for playing ... but you shouldn't throw stones even after you're standing in a pile of broken glass that was your home.


TSAH "you're inbred and uneducated even tho you have a degree and live in one of the biggest metro's in the country blah blah blah blah waaaaaaaaah"

Consider it a favor. I know you have better things to do with your time like monitoring buffets and shit.

If you have a degree in anything other than wife beating, sister/mother/granny fucking, it only goes to further my belief that anyone capable of walking upright can attain one and further indication that current trends are seriously deflating the value of a degree ... more proof that our education system (at all levels) is in serious jeopardy.

I should point out that I'm very flattered at your attempt to imitate me ... you fall well short of the mark however. Perhaps you should open up MS word and practice for a few years. While you do so, go out and start life over ... so far you're failing.

As far as me having better things to do, well ... being partnered in a hotel doesn't require my every waking effort. We've got a very capable manager now and my time requirements fall more along the lines of development and event planning. Hardly requires more than 10 hours a week and only 30 minutes of that is actual work. I left my full time job weeks ago, though it was actually months due to vacation time.

No, I spend my time screwing around in the garage with one brother, kicking around the idea of another business venture ... screwing around in the kitchen with my cousin who is going back to college and culinary school and kicking around ideas for another business venture.

I leave the buffet issues up to the people I pay to deal with those issues and rarely do customer complaints escalate to the need for my attention.

[Tsa`ah]

Actually, it is their business. He was being investigated and they come across a case of sexual harassment involving the president. Should they have just closed their eyes to the situation?

It's an issue of relevance. Had Lewinsky ever came forward with harassment charges, the line of questioning would have had relevance. She never did, she never implied it in questioning, and the whole thing was irrelevant to the case.

I'm not defending Clinton past this one issue. It wasn't anyone's business unless he harassed her. Well no one's business other than his, his wife's and Lewinsky's.

He was an idiot for claiming not to inhale and he was an idiot who should have been brought up on perjury for spewing a lie on the stand. However, that particular line of irrelevance never should have been investigated. Unless you feel OK with spending millions of tax dollars investigating blow jobs and who gets them.

[Parkbandit]

My knocks on Bush are not partisan. He's the captain of a shit boat the crew didn't think worth mutineering ... so they bailed. I would feel the same way about him despite his political affiliation. My bashing him has nothing to do with partisanship. If it did, I'd have a long list GOP members with a past of drug use.



lol

If I had room on my sig line, this might just make it.

What a load of complete shit.

[Parkbandit]

It's an issue of relevance. Had Lewinsky ever came forward with harassment charges, the line of questioning would have had relevance. She never did, she never implied it in questioning, and the whole thing was irrelevant to the case.

I'm not defending Clinton past this one issue. It wasn't anyone's business unless he harassed her. Well no one's business other than his, his wife's and Lewinsky's.

He was an idiot for claiming not to inhale and he was an idiot who should have been brought up on perjury for spewing a lie on the stand. However, that particular line of irrelevance never should have been investigated. Unless you feel OK with spending millions of tax dollars investigating blow jobs and who gets them.

For someone who is in management, you have a very bad grasp of the term sexual harassment.

[Tsa`ah]

lol

If I had room on my sig line, this might just make it.

What a load of complete shit.

Why is it a load of shit? Is Bush the GOP banner boy? Is the name Bush synonymous with the word conservative?

I've voted about as many conservative republicans as I've voted for liberal democrats ... I do reserve to right to bash the hell out of anyone in any political party without bashing the party as a whole.

It may be your Alzheimer's kicking in, but I've bashed the Dems as hard as I've bashed republicans ... I reserve a special bat for Bush.


For someone who is in management, you have a very bad grasp of the term sexual harassment.

I would argue to the contrary.

From my understanding, Clinton was approached by Lewinsky. You can argue flirting or intent on Clinton's part, but the simple fact that Lewinsky never even implied harassment but was all about consent ... all indicative to irrelevance to the hearings.

In this day and age, anything can be considered sexual harassment. You can't even hold the door open for the opposite sex without fear of civil action. However, as a former manager it would have been my job to investigate any claim and take appropriate action or inaction.

I've had cases where a young women would complain of being harassed by a male co worker. Most of those were bullshit to begin with. The guy would ask the girl out for a date, the girl wasn't attracted to the guy ... said no and filed a complaint. Yet had a history of dating other co-workers. Had the guy persisted it would have been harassment, since most of the guys in question never bothered the girl/s they asked out past the first invitation ... no harassment.

Now if it's down right lewd or outright propositions of sex .. ya there's a case.

But this is all irrelevant. Hummers and cigar jobs in the oval office between two consenting adults had nothing to do with the Clinton hearings. It was a waste of tax dollars, waste of time, and accomplished nothing more than pointing out that Clinton would rather lie than use his head and say none of your fucking business.

[Parkbandit]

Why is it a load of shit? Is Bush the GOP banner boy? Is the name Bush synonymous with the word conservative?

I've voted about as many conservative republicans as I've voted for liberal democrats ... I do reserve to right to bash the hell out of anyone in any political party without bashing the party as a whole.

It may be your Alzheimer's kicking in, but I've bashed the Dems as hard as I've bashed republicans ... I reserve a special bat for Bush.



Actually, Bush is the GOP banner boy.. since he is holding the highest elected position. Pretty much American Politics 101. Clinton was (and many can argue still is) the Democratic banner boy.

[Parkbandit]

I would argue to the contrary.

From my understanding, Clinton was approached by Lewinsky. You can argue flirting or intent on Clinton's part, but the simple fact that Lewinsky never even implied harassment but was all about consent ... all indicative to irrelevance to the hearings.

In this day and age, anything can be considered sexual harassment. You can't even hold the door open for the opposite sex without fear of civil action. However, as a former manager it would have been my job to investigate any claim and take appropriate action or inaction.

I've had cases where a young women would complain of being harassed by a male co worker. Most of those were bullshit to begin with. The guy would ask the girl out for a date, the girl wasn't attracted to the guy ... said no and filed a complaint. Yet had a history of dating other co-workers. Had the guy persisted it would have been harassment, since most of the guys in question never bothered the girl/s they asked out past the first invitation ... no harassment.

Now if it's down right lewd or outright propositions of sex .. ya there's a case.

But this is all irrelevant. Hummers and cigar jobs in the oval office between two consenting adults had nothing to do with the Clinton hearings. It was a waste of tax dollars, waste of time, and accomplished nothing more than pointing out that Clinton would rather lie than use his head and say none of your fucking business.

You are correct, in this day and age, almost anything can be construed as sexual harassment.. including someone in a power position over someone in a non power position. Consent does not necessarily equate to not being sexual harassment.

[CrystalTears]

Er, consent is not sexual harrassment. You can't charge someone with sexual harrassment and then be found that you consented and were a willing participant in the incident. It will get dismissed, and probably turn around and bite you in the ass for making a false claim.

[Tsa`ah]

You are correct, in this day and age, almost anything can be construed as sexual harassment.. including someone in a power position over someone in a non power position. Consent does not necessarily equate to not being sexual harassment.

As CT mentioned, consent is the deciding factor.

If a female employee of mine came into my office, stripped down and said "do me now" and had a hard time walking correctly afterward .... good fucking luck with a harassment case. I'm sure I'd lose everything in the ensuing divorce case, but that employee wouldn't have a prayer in hell of getting anything from me or my company unless she lied her ass off and I was a total chump who couldn't disprove anything she presented.

Consent will always disprove harassment unless consent is coerced ... which is not really concent.

[TheEschaton]

Consent can be found to be sexual harrassment if the person in power propositions the employee and the employee "consents" because (s)he feels (s)he has no other option and that saying no will affect his/her job.

But if the employee propositions the boss, and then both consent...that's not sexual harrassment.

-TheE-

[Sean of the Thread]

They always have another option. It's called NO and GTFO.

[CrystalTears]

Consent can be found to be sexual harrassment if the person in power propositions the employee and the employee "consents" because (s)he feels (s)he has no other option and that saying no will affect his/her job.
Wrong. If you consent to that, there is no way to decipher whether your consent was genuine or not. The best course of action is...


It's called NO and GTFO.

[TheEschaton]

Errr, NOT WRONG. Courts have continually found validity in the idea of "forced consent", if there exists a power relationship where the propositioner has power over the employee's job and the employee has fear that their job is in jeopardy if they don't say yes.

-TheE-

[Parkbandit]

Wrong. If you consent to that, there is no way to decipher whether your consent was genuine or not.

And thus the reason why consent isn't THE deciding factor.. since it's a he said/she said type of evidence. A person in power having anything that can be construed as sexual harassment with someone who is in a 'lower' level of power is considered sexual harassment.

Even Hillary said in an interview (before the evidence proved Bill was lying).. that if this were indeed true, it would be a "very serious offense". I don't think she was saying it would be an offense against her or her marriage.

[Bartlett]

I think Clinton was/is a scumbag. No surprise there. I'm sure most will say this has nothing to do with the discussion, but I feel like posting.

There was a cop in my town who applied for a job in a neighboring town. During the polygraph portion of the interview he admitted to having sex on duty. Needless to say, that one bit of info about his past caused him to not get the job. Word got back to his then current chief and he was promptly fired. This guy, an excellent cop and more than decent human being, risking his life for $15/hr was canned because he had sex while on duty. What goes on behind closed doors and under desks in the oval office is our business, as the President's employer.

And since I just now read this post, Dick Swett was from NH, a democrat elected under the promise of no anti-gun laws. Almost got lynched when he hooked up with Billy boy and made the first big step to neutering the law abiding American public.

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Whose fault was it really? Clinton’s or Lewinsky’s?

[Bartlett]

Oh sorry. I also think Lewinsky is a scumbag.

Thanks for responding.

[Back]

Oh sorry. I also think Lewinsky is a scumbag.

Thanks for responding.

All politics aside who was the bigger scumbag? I don’t condone cheating on your spouse, but then I think Lewinsky was the real twat in the situation.

[Bartlett]

Considering what is imposed upon manliness, the female never gets the guilt deserved in a situations like these, as the alleged aggressor and tattle tale It could be said she caused it, but Bill should've known better, and even a weak man should have been able to resist that face.

I will dangerously concede that we all would have been better off had this not been brought to light, but since it was, there is no fault for pursuing the proper moral, ethical and legal(yes, cheating is against the law) consequences for the offenders. The ensuing circus was a total mess, and unnecessary.

I can't seem to gather my thoughts for the rest of the post, so I will leave it at that.

[Back]

Considering what is imposed upon manliness, the female never gets the guilt deserved in a situations like these, as the alleged aggressor and tattle tale It could be said she caused it, but Bill should've known better, and even a weak man should have been able to resist that face.

I will dangerously concede that we all would have been better off had this not been brought to light, but since it was, there is no fault for pursuing the proper moral, ethical and legal(yes, cheating is against the law) consequences for the offenders. The ensuing circus was a total mess, and unnecessary.

I can't seem to gather my thoughts for the rest of the post, so I will leave it at that.


I agree, our politicians should be accountable for their actions. While getting a blow job from an intern seems like a minor incident, lying under oath is pretty bad.

[Sean of the Thread]

So says the music and movie thief... you're such a fucking hypocrite.

[Back]

So says the music and movie thief... you're such a fucking hypocrite.

I’m very comfortable with who I am and what I do. At least I’m not an unemployed alcoholic who had to beg to be a househusband whose greatest achievement in life is being the biggest asshole on a message board.

[Sean of the Thread]

1) I make more money than you.
2) I'm an alcoholic.
3) Thanks for the compliment.
4) I'm sorry for making fun of your large clitoris.
5) You can keep standing on your soapbox preaching morals and ethics in government and politics but in the end you're still a pathetic lonely small dicked thief. Glad you feel good about yourself because I doubt anyone feels the same about you.

Take it to u2u .. I like to save your cry babying to cherish forever.

[Back]

1) I make more money than you.
2) I'm an alcoholic.
3) Thanks for the compliment.
4) I'm sorry for making fun of your large clitoris.
5) You can keep standing on your soapbox preaching morals and ethics in government and politics but in the end you're still a pathetic lonely small dicked thief. Glad you feel good about yourself because I doubt anyone feels the same about you.

Take it to u2u .. I like to save your cry babying to cherish forever.

:rofl:

No problem about the compliment. You deserve it. Enjoy the top of the shit pile.

[Sean of the Thread]

Please enjoy the bottom of the shit pile.

[Back]

Please enjoy the bottom of the shit pile.

Hey, you win. You are the bigger(est) asshole. Congratulations.

[Parkbandit]

Whose fault was it really? Clinton’s or Lewinsky’s?

Clinton's. Plain and simple. He is the boss and should have known better than that. He was the President of the United States and she was an intern in the White House.

I don't blame him for wanting to get some good pussy. Christ, look at his wife. But he could have gotten some strange pussy off the street instead of using someone under him.. political position wise :P

[Back]

Clinton's. Plain and simple. He is the boss and should have known better than that. He was the President of the United States and she was an intern in the White House.

I don't blame him for wanting to get some good pussy. Christ, look at his wife. But he could have gotten some strange pussy off the street instead of using someone under him.. political position wise :P

This is where we disagree. I thought his lying under oath was the really bad thing. Not that I condone cheating on your wife with interns or hookers...

[Sean of the Thread]

Don't condone cheating ...fucking hookers...or lying? I praise your morals sir.

[Parkbandit]

This is where we disagree. I thought his lying under oath was the really bad thing. Not that I condone cheating on your wife with interns or hookers...

Who the fuck gives a shit about him cheating on his wife? She's a beast.. I'd cheat on her too.

But if you are asking the question.. which you did.. who's more at fault? It's not even close. Clinton. Period.

[Back]

Don't condone cheating ...fucking hookers...or lying? I praise your morals sir.

At least she didn’t piss herself in a wheelchair.

[Back]

Who the fuck gives a shit about him cheating on his wife? She's a beast.. I'd cheat on her too.

But if you are asking the question.. which you did.. who's more at fault? It's not even close. Clinton. Period.

Lets be clear. For lying under oath. I agree.

[Parkbandit]

You are far from clear.

So, you are blaming Lewinsky for the affair now?

My god, remove your mouth from Clinton's dick long enough to breath please.

[Back]

You are far from clear.

So, you are blaming Lewinsky for the affair now?

My god, remove your mouth from Clinton's dick long enough to breath please.

I can always count on you to get the exact opposite of what I say.

[Sean of the Thread]

I can always count on you to get the exact opposite of what I say.

It's not hard to do considering the hypocritical nonsense you constantly babble.

[Parkbandit]

I can always count on you to get the exact opposite of what I say.

Really?


Whose fault was it really? Clinton’s or Lewinsky’s?



Clinton's. Plain and simple. He is the boss and should have known better than that. He was the President of the United States and she was an intern in the White House.


This is where we disagree.




But if you are asking the question.. which you did.. who's more at fault? It's not even close. Clinton. Period.


Lets be clear. For lying under oath. I agree.



So, you are blaming Lewinsky for the affair now?



I can always count on you to get the exact opposite of what I say.


So by opposite, you mean dead on?

FUCK.. My bad Backlash. God damn, didn't realize it's Saturday night..

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[Back]

It's not hard to do considering the hypocritical nonsense you constantly babble.

Did you have dinner done on time?

[Back]

Really?

So by opposite, you mean dead on?

FUCK.. My bad Backlash. God damn, didn't realize it's Saturday night..

[img[http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e75/mrsirrom/Stoner-Simpson--C10315396.jpg[/img]

Actually, its much simpler than that. If you had asked you would not have had to make such an elaborate post.

If it was not for Lewinsky’s big mouth Clinton would not have lied.

[Sean of the Thread]

Did you have dinner done on time?

Yeah.. I dined at Ruth's Chris tonight. Tomorrow I'm going slumming at Chili's.. do you want a report after dinner tomorrow as well?

[Back]

Yeah.. I dined at Ruth's Chris tonight. Tomorrow I'm going slumming at Chili's.. do you want a report after dinner tomorrow as well?

:rofl:

Not only are you the biggest asshole, you are trying to vie for being the biggest liar. Who are you trying to impress? Me?

Not that Cracker Barrel is a bad place.

[Tsa`ah]

I don't see how you can place a larger portion of blame on one party or the other.

Both are adults and both neglected to act as such. She's at fault for approaching a married man, he's at fault for not turning her away.

It's kind of like asking who's to blame when a fish gets caught .. the fish or the worm on the hook.

Concerning concent and harassment; I don't believe any court is going to accept coerced concent as bonafide concent. They're going to call it straight up coercement ... thus the statement "Consent will always disprove harassment unless consent is coerced ... which is not really concent."

[Sean of the Thread]

:rofl:

Not only are you the biggest asshole, you are trying to vie for being the biggest liar. Who are you trying to impress? Me?

Not that Cracker Barrel is a bad place.

Hook line and sinker Hypocrite.

[Back]

Hook line and sinker Hypocrite.

Make sure you teach your daughters not to show their boobs on the internet. You know, so people like you and Alfster don’t try to trick them and then post them.

[Parkbandit]

I don't see how you can place a larger portion of blame on one party or the other.

Both are adults and both neglected to act as such. She's at fault for approaching a married man, he's at fault for not turning her away.

It's kind of like asking who's to blame when a fish gets caught .. the fish or the worm on the hook.

Concerning concent and harassment; I don't believe any court is going to accept coerced concent as bonafide concent. They're going to call it straight up coercement ... thus the statement "Consent will always disprove harassment unless consent is coerced ... which is not really concent."


The problem with coerced concent is that it's all he said, she said. "Bill said that if I went along with it, I would be able to move up in Government!" Because of his position, he could easily get her some promotion or position of more power than she already had. The fact that someone of power was having relations with someone below him or her can easily give the impression that they were getting something more out of it than a dress full of evidence.

I find it amusing that we even have to have this argument of who is more responsible. I'm certain that if the President had been Bush, we would have moved beyond this 8 years later.

[xtc]

It astounds me that people are attacking Barack because of his name and his heritage. Some people on this board need to stop reading Debbie Schlussel and find some columnists that aren't on crack.

...and he tried drugs, big deal, it didn't stop Bush or Clinton from becoming President. It is a non-issue.

[Parkbandit]

It astounds me that people are attacking Barack because of his name and his heritage. Some people on this board need to stop reading Debbie Schlussel and find some columnists that aren't on crack.

...and he tried drugs, big deal, it didn't stop Bush or Clinton from becoming President. It is a non-issue.

Weird.. it wasn't a non-issue with Bush.

I guess it's only a non-issue if the candidate is Democrat?

And who's attacking him? I just mentioned his full name, saying it's the worst name in politics today. That's not an attack, that's an observation.

[xtc]

Weird.. it wasn't a non-issue with Bush.

I guess it's only a non-issue if the candidate is Democrat?

And who's attacking him? I just mentioned his full name, saying it's the worst name in politics today. That's not an attack, that's an observation.

I never gave a rat's ass about Bush's drinking or drug use and it would put Barack's to shame.

An army of people have attacked Barack for his name & his heritage. You don't attack him but you put the question out there.

I wouldn't vote for Barack but not because his middle name is Hussein, or because his estranged father is a Muslim.

[Parkbandit]

I never gave a rat's ass about Bush's drinking or drug use and it would put Barack's to shame.

An army of people have attacked Barack for his name & his heritage. You don't attack him but you put the question out there.

I wouldn't vote for Barack but not because his middle name is Hussein, or because his estranged father is a Muslim.

*I* never gave a rat's ass about Bush's, Clinton's or Obama's either.. but are you saying it was a non-story for either Bush or Clinton before? I'm certain I've read tons about it. And what are you basing Bush's drug use vs. Barack's to? Personal knowledge, or your ever present bullshit 'facts'? I'm glad you never gave a rat's ass.. yet felt it necessary to say Bush did more drugs that Obama. Nice.

[TheEschaton]

Uh, it was a big deal during Clinton's first run. It was a big deal from Bush's first run. It'll be a big deal if Barack runs. But in the end, what matters to me (and most people), is whether anyone else suffered the consequences of those actions, and whether the behavior indicates a lack of maturity.

In the former case, no one got hurt by anyone.

In the latter case, Clinton and Obama did drugs at a younger age, and then foreswore it to be serious. Much like myself, and, I'm sure, many other people on this board.

G.W. partied well into his thirties, with drinking and alcohol, and didn't quit until Laura said she'd leave him if he didn't stop.

Edited to add: Now, being immature isn't a crime. Nor is it particularly a reason to not vote for someone. But, eh.

-TheE-

[zhelas]

Obama on the beach

http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2007/01/08/PH2007010801536.jpg
I'm too sexy for my love too sexy for my love
Love's going to leave me

I'm too sexy for my shirt too sexy for my shirt
So sexy it hurts
And I'm too sexy for Milan too sexy for Milan
New York and Japan

And I'm too sexy for your party
Too sexy for your party
No way I'm disco dancing

I'm a model you know what I mean
And I do my little turn on the catwalk
Yeah on the catwalk on the catwalk yeah
I do my little turn on the catwalk

I'm too sexy for my car too sexy for my car
Too sexy by far
And I'm too sexy for my hat
Too sexy for my hat what do you think about that

I'm a model you know what I mean
And I do my little turn on the catwalk
Yeah on the catwalk on the catwalk yeah
I shake my little touche on the catwalk

I'm too sexy for my too sexy for my too sexy for my

'Cos I'm a model you know what I mean
And I do my little turn on the catwalk
Yeah on the catwalk on the catwalk yeah
I shake my little touche on the catwalk

I'm too sexy for my cat too sexy for my cat
Poor pussy poor pussy cat
I'm too sexy for my love too sexy for my love
Love's going to leave me

And I'm too sexy for this song

[Alfster]

Make sure you teach your daughters not to show their boobs on the internet. You know, so people like you and Alfster don’t try to trick them and then post them.

I wouldn't think of doing that to someone under 18, unlike you.

[Landrion]

PB will probably get a kick out of this.....



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070116/ap_on_el_pr/obama2008

Democratic Sen. Barack Obama (news, bio, voting record) said Tuesday he is taking the initial step in a presidential bid that could make him the nation's first black to occupy the White House.

ADVERTISEMENT

Obama announced on his Web site, http://www.barackobama.com, that he was filing a presidential exploratory committee. He said he would announce more about his plans in his home state of Illinois on Feb. 10.

"I certainly didn't expect to find myself in this position a year ago," Obama said in a video posting. "I've been struck by how hungry we all are for a different kind of politics. So I've spent some time thinking about how I could best advance the cause of change and progress that we so desperately need."

Obama, a little more than two years into his Senate term, is the most inexperienced candidate considering a run for the Democratic nomination, but nonetheless ranks as a top contender. His appeal on the stump, his unique background, his opposition to the Iraq war and the fact that he is a fresh face set him apart in a competitive race that also is expected to include front-runner Sen.Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Other Democrats who have announced a campaign or exploratory committee are 2004 vice presidential nominee John Edwards, former Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack, Connecticut Sen. Chris Dodd and Ohio Rep. Dennis Kucinich.

Obama tried to turn his biggest weakness — his lack of experience in national politics — into an asset.

"The decisions that have been made in Washington these past six years, and the problems that have been ignored, have put our country in a precarious place," he said.

"America's faced big problems before," he said. "But today, our leaders in Washington seem incapable of working together in a practical, commonsense way. Politics has become so bitter and partisan, so gummed up by money and influence, that we can't tackle the big problems that demand solutions."

He said Americans are struggling financially, dependence on foreign oil threatens the environment and national security and "we're still mired in a tragic and costly war that should have never been waged."

[Stanley Burrell]

PB will probably get a kick out of this.....



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070116/ap_on_el_pr/obama2008

Democratic Sen. Barack Obama (news, bio, voting record) said Tuesday he is taking the initial step in a presidential bid that could make him the nation's first black to occupy the White House.

ADVERTISEMENT

Obama announced on his Web site, http://www.barackobama.com, that he was filing a presidential exploratory committee. He said he would announce more about his plans in his home state of Illinois on Feb. 10.

"I certainly didn't expect to find myself in this position a year ago," Obama said in a video posting. "I've been struck by how hungry we all are for a different kind of politics. So I've spent some time thinking about how I could best advance the cause of change and progress that we so desperately need."

Obama, a little more than two years into his Senate term, is the most inexperienced candidate considering a run for the Democratic nomination, but nonetheless ranks as a top contender. His appeal on the stump, his unique background, his opposition to the Iraq war and the fact that he is a fresh face set him apart in a competitive race that also is expected to include front-runner Sen.Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Other Democrats who have announced a campaign or exploratory committee are 2004 vice presidential nominee John Edwards, former Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack, Connecticut Sen. Chris Dodd and Ohio Rep. Dennis Kucinich.

Obama tried to turn his biggest weakness — his lack of experience in national politics — into an asset.

"The decisions that have been made in Washington these past six years, and the problems that have been ignored, have put our country in a precarious place," he said.

"America's faced big problems before," he said. "But today, our leaders in Washington seem incapable of working together in a practical, commonsense way. Politics has become so bitter and partisan, so gummed up by money and influence, that we can't tackle the big problems that demand solutions."

He said Americans are struggling financially, dependence on foreign oil threatens the environment and national security and "we're still mired in a tragic and costly war that should have never been waged."

I wish he would have jumped on the ballot well before H. Clinton did, however, since we can't all dwell in the past *and* should take politics as pre-emptively as we do seriously, I am banking on Hillary getting hit by a Mack truck on I-95 to one-side the Democrat ballot :-\

[Keller]

True and wasn't he re-elected after being caught?

Someone isn't up on their Chris Rock. And I quote:

"How the hell did Marion Barry get his job back? If you get caught smoking crack at McDonald's, you can't get your job back! They're not going to trust you around the Happy Meals! All I want to know is, who ran against him and lost? Who was so bad that they lost to a crackhead?"

[Back]

PB will probably get a kick out of this.....



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070116/ap_on_el_pr/obama2008

Democratic Sen. Barack Obama (news, bio, voting record) said Tuesday he is taking the initial step in a presidential bid that could make him the nation's first black to occupy the White House.

ADVERTISEMENT

Obama announced on his Web site, http://www.barackobama.com, that he was filing a presidential exploratory committee. He said he would announce more about his plans in his home state of Illinois on Feb. 10.

"I certainly didn't expect to find myself in this position a year ago," Obama said in a video posting. "I've been struck by how hungry we all are for a different kind of politics. So I've spent some time thinking about how I could best advance the cause of change and progress that we so desperately need."

Obama, a little more than two years into his Senate term, is the most inexperienced candidate considering a run for the Democratic nomination, but nonetheless ranks as a top contender. His appeal on the stump, his unique background, his opposition to the Iraq war and the fact that he is a fresh face set him apart in a competitive race that also is expected to include front-runner Sen.Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Other Democrats who have announced a campaign or exploratory committee are 2004 vice presidential nominee John Edwards, former Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack, Connecticut Sen. Chris Dodd and Ohio Rep. Dennis Kucinich.

Obama tried to turn his biggest weakness — his lack of experience in national politics — into an asset.

"The decisions that have been made in Washington these past six years, and the problems that have been ignored, have put our country in a precarious place," he said.

"America's faced big problems before," he said. "But today, our leaders in Washington seem incapable of working together in a practical, commonsense way. Politics has become so bitter and partisan, so gummed up by money and influence, that we can't tackle the big problems that demand solutions."

He said Americans are struggling financially, dependence on foreign oil threatens the environment and national security and "we're still mired in a tragic and costly war that should have never been waged."

At first I said he didn’t have the experience... but neither did Kennedy. If the man is truly a leader, to lead us down a positive path, and that message resonates with the people, he shouldn’t have any problems.

[Landrion]

At first I said he didn’t have the experience... but neither did Kennedy. If the man is truly a leader, to lead us down a positive path, and that message resonates with the people, he shouldn’t have any problems.

I have no idea. A laugh on me, I thought Dean was going to going to get the nomination last time around ;-).

[Parkbandit]

Only the liberal media could make a news story out of this. OMG! HE IS GOING TO EXPLORE THE POSSIBILITY OF HIM MAYBE RUNNING HOPEFULLY FOR PREZ!!!!!

[Landrion]

Only the liberal media could make a news story out of this. OMG! HE IS GOING TO EXPLORE THE POSSIBILITY OF HIM MAYBE RUNNING HOPEFULLY FOR PREZ!!!!!

Youre welcome.

[Back]

Only the liberal media could make a news story out of this. OMG! HE IS GOING TO EXPLORE THE POSSIBILITY OF HIM MAYBE RUNNING HOPEFULLY FOR PREZ!!!!!

Eh... what the heck are you talking about? News stories of candidates opening exploratory campaigns are not only big news but reported no matter who the candidate is.

Mitt Romney was big news. Sam Brownback... not so big, but it was in the news. Guillani’s possible committee was pretty big news. And so on.

[Keller]

Only the liberal media could make a news story out of this. OMG! HE IS GOING TO EXPLORE THE POSSIBILITY OF HIM MAYBE RUNNING HOPEFULLY FOR PREZ!!!!!


Aside from Backlash's comment about how this is not special treatment but instead comports with the coverage given to other candidates announcements, did it ever occur to you that news corporations are run for profit? They report what people read. If it's got a liberal bias it's because there is a market for liberal news. If it's got a conservative bias, it's because there is a market for a conservative bias. Statements such as the above raise your lunacy rating from Backlash levels to Warclaidhm levels.

[Back]

Aside from Backlash's comment about how this is not special treatment but instead comports with the coverage given to other candidates announcements, did it ever occur to you that news corporations are run for profit? They report what people read. If it's got a liberal bias it's because there is a market for liberal news. If it's got a conservative bias, it's because there is a market for a conservative bias. Statements such as the above raise your lunacy rating from Backlash levels to Warclaidhm levels.

For example...

http://www.drudgereport.com/

Take a look at his headline today. 01/16/07

[Parkbandit]

Eh... what the heck are you talking about? News stories of candidates opening exploratory campaigns are not only big news but reported no matter who the candidate is.

Mitt Romney was big news. Sam Brownback... not so big, but it was in the news. Guillani’s possible committee was pretty big news. And so on.

Guillani maybe.. but Mitt was far from this type of big news.


I just can't wait until the Clinton War Machine starts working on Obama.. should be fun to watch from the sidelines.

[Parkbandit]

Statements such as the above raise your lunacy rating from Backlash levels to Warclaidhm levels.

Um.. yea.

Brilliant, really.


http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e6/belike53/WarclaidhmPic-3.jpg

[Parkbandit]

For example...

http://www.drudgereport.com/

Take a look at his headline today. 01/16/07


Winter Kills?

Wow, that really proved your point. Thanks.

[Back]

Winter Kills?

Wow, that really proved your point. Thanks.

Well, its past the date I posted it. Thank Drudge?

[Back]

Will this post roll the thread over?

Fuck.

[Parkbandit]

"As Senator Barack Hussein Obama enjoys superstar status within the news media, a background check of the 45-year old Illinois Democrat revealed that he was a student in a Muslim madrassa in Indonesia and that he was raised by his stepfather as a Muslim.

While his defenders are calling this an attack based on fear-mongering, there are those who believe this is troubling news since Obama never mentioned this information in his book.

Some observers believe Sen. Obama himself used his revelation about drug use -- including cocaine -- as a smokescreen to hide his Islamic background.

"It's not about Obama being Muslim that concerns me. It's the fact that he's been deceptive about his religious and educational background," says political strategist Mike Baker.

Most madrassas are funded by Saudi Arabia and are known to teach a radical form of Islam known as Wahhabism.

According to Democrat Party sources, Obama spent at least four years studying at the Indonesian madrassa.

While there are several stories about this latest Senator Obama revelation, many inside the Beltway believe the story came from Senator Hillary Clinton's supporters in order to take the wind out of the sails of Obama's fledgling presidential run."

http://www.commonvoice.com/article.asp?colid=6578

Granted, it's a slanted source, but the best one I could find on this story, since you probably won't hear about it on CBS anytime soon.

Clinton war machine (CWM) is just starting to gear up. I think the Democratic primaries will be fun to watch.

[Back]

"As Senator Barack Hussein Obama enjoys superstar status within the news media, a background check of the 45-year old Illinois Democrat revealed that he was a student in a Muslim madrassa in Indonesia and that he was raised by his stepfather as a Muslim.

While his defenders are calling this an attack based on fear-mongering, there are those who believe this is troubling news since Obama never mentioned this information in his book.

Some observers believe Sen. Obama himself used his revelation about drug use -- including cocaine -- as a smokescreen to hide his Islamic background.

"It's not about Obama being Muslim that concerns me. It's the fact that he's been deceptive about his religious and educational background," says political strategist Mike Baker.

Most madrassas are funded by Saudi Arabia and are known to teach a radical form of Islam known as Wahhabism.

According to Democrat Party sources, Obama spent at least four years studying at the Indonesian madrassa.

While there are several stories about this latest Senator Obama revelation, many inside the Beltway believe the story came from Senator Hillary Clinton's supporters in order to take the wind out of the sails of Obama's fledgling presidential run."

http://www.commonvoice.com/article.asp?colid=6578

Granted, it's a slanted source, but the best one I could find on this story, since you probably won't hear about it on CBS anytime soon.

Clinton war machine (CWM) is just starting to gear up. I think the Democratic primaries will be fun to watch.

Well, FOX jumped on it. Obama wrote about the experience in his first book. Whoever Mike Baker is... he’s an idiot.

[Latrinsorm]

Remember, only the Republicans stoop to fearmongering and personal attacks.

[Gan]

Remember, only the Republicans stoop to fearmongering and personal attacks.

Exactly, the Democrat party would never resort to fear mongering, misleading the public or distorting the truth through innuendos or outright lying. Never. They are the party of the people afterall. They represent all that is good and right with society, just dont pay attention to their lavish parties, behind the scenes land deals, and other social elietist behavior that the Republicans point out. They are just fearmongering and stooping to personal attacks. The Democrats truly feel your pain.

[Parkbandit]

Well, FOX jumped on it.


If it turns out to be untrue or false, then boo on Fox imo. They should check and recheck their sources.

If it turns out to be true.. doesn't it make you wonder why all the other 'news' programs refused to air it?

[Back]

If it turns out to be untrue or false, then boo on Fox imo. They should check and recheck their sources.

If it turns out to be true.. doesn't it make you wonder why all the other 'news' programs refused to air it?

It is a true story. He wrote about it in his first book.

So speculating that Clinton’s camp somehow dug up this hidden information to smear him is ridiculous. In fact, its more of a smear on Clinton’s camp at Obama’s expense. On top of that, its just another example of climate of fear that has gripped our country.

No one is reporting it because it is a non-issue. I went to Hebrew School for a year when I was 6 and I’m not in any way a Zionist.

[Kembal]

He wrote in his first book that he attended an Islamic school for 2 years in Indonesia, then attended a Catholic school. So not false that he attended an Islamic school, but relatively unimportant, considering he's a Christian.

The source you cited above, Parkbandit, is outright lying, however, since it was mentioned in his book, and the source saying it was not.

[Parkbandit]

It is a true story. He wrote about it in his first book.

So speculating that Clinton’s camp somehow dug up this hidden information to smear him is ridiculous. In fact, its more of a smear on Clinton’s camp at Obama’s expense. On top of that, its just another example of climate of fear that has gripped our country.

No one is reporting it because it is a non-issue. I went to Hebrew School for a year when I was 6 and I’m not in any way a Zionist.

Where did you get that this came from the Republicans? We pwn the rights to "Climate of Fear".

Don't make me send the boys in black to your house liberal pussy boy.

[TheEschaton]

I liked how they used his middle name in the article. They're being "objective" by putting in an actual fact in there, but the only reason to do it is to make him look worse.

Oh, and as for Democrats fear-mongering. Please, please, please mention 1 time when the Democrats have outright lied about a Republican candidate to provoke fear in voters who might vote for the Republican.

-TheE-

[Gan]

I liked how they used his middle name in the article. They're being "objective" by putting in an actual fact in there, but the only reason to do it is to make him look worse.

Oh, and as for Democrats fear-mongering. Please, please, please mention 1 time when the Democrats have outright lied about a Republican candidate to provoke fear in voters who might vote for the Republican.

-TheE-

1. Every time TV news anchor Dan Rather discussed Bush Sr. and Quayle he used Quayle's middle name. Every time. As a means to distinguish Quayle's upbringing being anything but common or humble.

2. Dan Rather and the Bush Jr. reserve letters that later proved to be false and eventually resulted in Rather's resignation.

[TheEschaton]

Letters which were forged about....a true event.

-TheE-

And I don't even know what Quayle's middle name is.

[Stanley Burrell]

Well.

After witnessing at least one possibly United States president's religious beliefs manifested through politics, I'm going to have to say that I have much more faith, no pun intended, in an individual with a less politically obvious, period, religious background versus that of one forged by fire and brimstone-reinforced tabernacles surmounted by the Creator himself/her/itself in the Holy dwelling of...

Crawford.

Seriously, I'm all for convoluted religion, and especially lack thereof, as if it (theism. Period) was actually supposed to follow some couple-century-old amendment, or sump'n like that, when put into the political playing field.

Two of these: ¢.

[Parkbandit]

Now that Hillary Clinton has officially joined the zoo, the next coming year should be fun to watch.

CWM FTW

[HarmNone]

Letters which were forged about....a true event.

-TheE-

And I don't even know what Quayle's middle name is.

I'm pretty sure it's Danforth.

[TheEschaton]

His name was Dan Danforth Quayle?

Or are you saying that....BECAUSE he chose to run under his middle name, it was somehow biased to say his whole name?

If I started running under A. Pat Pinto, would it be a crime to call me Patrick?

-TheE-

[HarmNone]

His name, I believe, is James Danforth Quayle.

[vontez]

Worst name, as in a crappy name, or worst reputation? I'd go with George DubDub or Representative Mark Foley

[Gan]

His name, I believe, is James Danforth Quayle.

Correct.

[Gan]

Letters which were forged about....a true event.

Fruit from the poisonous tree...

And are you sure it was a true event? If so, then why all the drama that lead to Rather's resignation in shame? I think you've got your conspiracy hat on again...

[Parkbandit]

His name was Dan Danforth Quayle?



-TheE-


Jesus Christ, learn how to fucking google for crying out loud. There really isn't even an excuse for ignorance such as yours with the internet around.