Pat Robertson: God told me of 'mass killing' in 2007

[Gan]

VIRGINIA BEACH, Virginia (AP) -- Evangelical broadcaster Pat Robertson said Tuesday that God has told him that a terrorist attack on the United States would cause a "mass killing" late in 2007.

"I'm not necessarily saying it's going to be nuclear," he said during his news-and-talk television show "The 700 Club" on the Christian Broadcasting Network.

"The Lord didn't say nuclear. But I do believe it will be something like that."

Robertson said God told him about the impending tragedy during a recent prayer retreat.

God also said, he claims, that major cities and possibly millions of people will be affected by the attack, which should take place sometime after September.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/01/02/robertson.predictions.ap/index.html
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Rooflez!

What a loon.

[Stanley Burrell]

He (Robertson) knows how to attract his target clientele for exploitation.

Just to add - Since I view many of the things he does as epic sales pitches, I wouldn't exactly call being a businessman looney in its entirety, actually :-\

[Gan]

If thats the case Stan, then it doesnt bespeak very well for his 'clients'.

[Marl]

"Hey Pat, God here, the shit 's goin down in oh seven let everyone know for me. Tell the wife and kids I said hello."

[Stanley Burrell]

If thats the case Stan, then it doesnt bespeak very well for his 'clients'.

He is a nifty Rapture connoisseur.

No it don't :-\

[Gan]

"Hey Pat, God here, the shit 's goin down in oh seven let everyone know for me. Tell the wife and kids I said hello."

:lol:

[Parkbandit]

It's probably a good risk he took, IMO.

If it does happen, holy shit.. think of all the new faith that will be born. At 10%... can you say LOTTERY!? Sure, they might lose a couple due to the tragedy.. but hey, I bet there were a lot of atheists in there... and they deserved to die anyway.

If it doesn't happen, then somehow God prevented it and saved millions of Americans.

[Ilvane]

Pat Robertson is such a quack..my god.

heh.

Angela

[Parkbandit]

To be honest.. I don't see why God believing people find it hard to believe that God spoke to him. If I were God, he would probably be at the top of my list of people To talk to. This is a man who has given himself to my cause and spread my word more than almost any other...

If the Pope had made this claim.. would you religious folks find as much fault with it?

[RichardCranium]

I believe in God, but I find it hard to believe anything any televangelist says. Of course I'm very confused when it comes to organized religion and my personal beliefs at this point in my life.

[CrystalTears]

I very much believe in God, but I don't believe in holy fortunetelling. I haven't heard of any time God would have warned people of an upcoming disaster, not sure why He would start now.

[Back]

Robertson is just doing what the priest/shaman/witch-doctor class of society has been doing since we were living in caves. Claiming to know more than the rest of us through some special supernatural connection and using that as a means to control/hold power over us. Well, some of us...

[Gan]

I very much believe in God, but I don't believe in holy fortunetelling. I haven't heard of any time God would have warned people of an upcoming disaster, not sure why He would start now.

Well, I can only think of Lot and Noah.

I'm sure Latrin will confirm that there have been others.

[HarmNone]

I very much believe in God, but I don't believe in holy fortunetelling. I haven't heard of any time God would have warned people of an upcoming disaster, not sure why He would start now.

If He were to speak such a warning, I'd be willing to wager the family farm that it wouldn't be to the likes of Pat Robertson!

[Goretawn]

But, but, but it's PAT ROBERTSON. How can one not believe. Believe in the Pat, believe and you shall be healed. Bask in his glory.

[Chelle]

I very much believe in God, but I don't believe in holy fortunetelling. I haven't heard of any time God would have warned people of an upcoming disaster, not sure why He would start now.

Except for that Noah and the Flood thingie, and perhaps Lot and the balls of fire or whatever that destroyed the naughty lil city he was in, but hey that was ages ago.

Yeah it's hard to believe in any televangelist, today because their main priority it seems is money, money, money.

[CrystalTears]

Noah was told to get him, his family and some animals out only. He didn't say, Hey Noah, go tell it on the mountains that I'm flooding the world. Nope. So I guess we're supposed to praise Pat for sharing this news? Pft.

[Some Rogue]

Well, there was Moses who got the Ten Commandments. :P

[CrystalTears]

OMG 10 Commandments isn't a world disaster, Satan!

[Some Rogue]

But it was God speaking to a man and telling him to tell other people! :club:

[Gan]

The book of Revelation was pretty much a warning too, now that I think about it.

[HarmNone]

I think I'll just wait around to see if ol' Pat tells us he's going to go to his room and refuse to eat until we send him money to fend off impending doom. :whistle:

[CrystalTears]

Okay, sorry, I opened up a can of worms with my original statement so I apologize. Maybe I should have just said that I don't believe caca evangelists who are in it for the money and glory and not for the good of religious following.

[Nieninque]

This all reminds me of the Life of Brian

[Hulkein]

To be honest.. I don't see why God believing people find it hard to believe that God spoke to him. If I were God, he would probably be at the top of my list of people To talk to. This is a man who has given himself to my cause and spread my word more than almost any other...

If the Pope had made this claim.. would you religious folks find as much fault with it?

I agree.

[Jenisi]

So recently (to appease my boyfriend's mom) I've been going to church with her every Sunday morning. Hasn't changed my ideas on religion or faith. I don't see anything wrong with church, I think it teaches good morals. Anyway... The first time I go with her to her church my jaw drops. The place is HUGE and has a coffee shop, a mini resturant, bookstore, huge indoor kids playground. It's as big as a mini mall. We get inside and smiling faces welcome us to come in and sit down, it's stadium seating by the way. I started to read over the little pamphlet they handed me (this is before Christmas time) and there's a whole page dedicated to donations in cash, plastic, items and real estate. And I guess the pastor makes somewhere over and above the six figure range a year. Now once again, I'm not saying anything is wrong with having a "pimped out church" But they've kinda changed from the days of stained glass and velvet lining.

[Jenisi]

P.S. God also talks to Bush.

[Sean of the Thread]

Guess you and Celephais broke off your engagement?

[Jenisi]

We were never engaged and broke up about 5 months ago.

[DeV]

P.S. God also talks to Bush.Daily. And don't you ever question that.

[Latrinsorm]

To be honest.. I don't see why God believing people find it hard to believe that God spoke to him.That's why you have such trouble understanding what religion is about.
I'm sure Latrin will confirm that there have been others.An interesting finding of recent archaeology is that the historical part of the Bible doesn't start until much later (Biblically speaking) than most people would guess. Most folks don't buy into Biblical creation, but it's looking like figures as late as King David and King Solomon aren't historical figures, isn't that fascinating?

As for the Book of Revelation, like most of the Bible it's not meant to be taken literally. It's about Emperor Nero and the Romans or some wacky thing.

The original story gets about 100000x funnier if you imagine it occurring as Bill Cosby's sketch about Noah, with Pat Robertson playing the role of Bill Cosby.

[Parkbandit]

I very much believe in God, but I don't believe in holy fortunetelling. I haven't heard of any time God would have warned people of an upcoming disaster, not sure why He would start now.

Huh?

It's been a while for me, but didn't he warn Moses? Noah? And that is two just off my head.. I am sure it's been claimed that he has warned many of His followers of impending doom.

[Parkbandit]

Okay, sorry, I opened up a can of worms with my original statement so I apologize. Maybe I should have just said that I don't believe caca evangelists who are in it for the money and glory and not for the good of religious following.

Oops.. sorry, I was replying in order as I was reading. DIdn't see you get hammered :(

[Parkbandit]

Daily. And don't you ever question that.


But that's my point.. if you truly believe in God and all that He stands for... why is it so hard for His followers to believe that he does talk to Georgie Boy? He is the most powerful man on this planet right now.. seems to me if I were God, he would be the one I would talk to.

[Parkbandit]

That's why you have such trouble understanding what religion is about.

Actually, I have a pretty good idea what Religion is about. My question was more about your faith and how you find it so hard to believe.

God can create the heavens and the earth, throw a bunch of animals down and create Man in 7 days.. but talk to someone? NO WAY!

[CrystalTears]

Because historically, and I may be making another faux pas, the people God talks to are either righteous, holy, sin-free or something along those lines. I don't consider Pat in that class. Nope. Not a chance.

However I can see how his followers will believe it. Are his followers not believing it?

[Parkbandit]

Because historically, and I may be making another faux pas, the people God talks to are either righteous, holy, sin-free or something along those lines. I don't consider Pat in that class. Nope. Not a chance.

However I can see how his followers will believe it. Are his followers not believing it?


FAUX PAS ALERT!!!!

No one is Sin Free.

God, u r dum.

:)

[CrystalTears]

FAUX PAS ALERT!!!!

No one is Sin Free.
Don't I know it.


God, u r dum.
No soup for you.

[DeV]

But that's my point.. if you truly believe in God and all that He stands for... why is it so hard for His followers to believe that he does talk to Georgie Boy? He is the most powerful man on this planet right now.. seems to me if I were God, he would be the one I would talk to. I don't believe God talks through the most powerful people. If that were the case there would be no need for Jesus to have come to earth in the flesh, experience persecution at the hands of those who considered themselves God-fearing, and ultimate death at the hands of those who were in the most powerful positions who refused to hear his message because he was perceived by them to be a "regular Joe".

I think when people claim God talks to them they are hearing their own thoughts, and that's that.

But that's just me.

[Parkbandit]

So God never talks to anyone?

As an alien, do you think he even knows English?

[DeV]

Because historically, and I may be making another faux pas, the people God talks to are either righteous, holy, sin-free or something along those lines.To add... I think if He were to talk to anyone, it would be someone extremely humble, but not completely free of sin or even overtly righteous.

Then again, it could be the Devil pretending to be God, at least in Pat Robertson's case.

[Methais]

God told me Pat Robertson is a homosexual with a farm animal fetish.

[DeV]

So God never talks to anyone?I'm fairly certain there is no evidence for or against such an occurrence.

Or maybe I'm just jealous because the last time I tried to speak to God all I got was a recording that said "all our spiritual beings are busy at the moment; please try again later", which made me sad.

Seriously, if God talks to you and you want to convince others of this, follow his advice; "faith without works is dead". I've always believed that at least.


As an alien, do you think he even knows English?Three words. Tower of Babel. He is ALL KNOWING, so yes.

[Parkbandit]

I'm fairly certain there is no evidence for or against such an occurrence.



But isn't that the most powerful thing about religion.. the inability to prove it's not real?

[Latrinsorm]

Actually, I have a pretty good idea what Religion is about.If you did, you wouldn't be asking the question. :)
Because historically, and I may be making another faux pas, the people God talks to are either righteous, holy, sin-free or something along those lines.Beyond the whole "all people are sinful" thing, many of the prophets aren't those kind of folks right away. We all know Jonah got eaten by a whale, but the reason he got eaten by a whale is because he was running away from his divine mission. Rebuking David was a full-time job for Nathan, and with good reason.

[DeV]

But isn't that the most powerful thing about religion.. the inability to prove it's not real?

The most powerful thing about religion is faith and conviction, imo.

[Hulkein]

So recently (to appease my boyfriend's mom) I've been going to church with her every Sunday morning. Hasn't changed my ideas on religion or faith. I don't see anything wrong with church, I think it teaches good morals. Anyway... The first time I go with her to her church my jaw drops. The place is HUGE and has a coffee shop, a mini resturant, bookstore, huge indoor kids playground. It's as big as a mini mall. We get inside and smiling faces welcome us to come in and sit down, it's stadium seating by the way. I started to read over the little pamphlet they handed me (this is before Christmas time) and there's a whole page dedicated to donations in cash, plastic, items and real estate. And I guess the pastor makes somewhere over and above the six figure range a year. Now once again, I'm not saying anything is wrong with having a "pimped out church" But they've kinda changed from the days of stained glass and velvet lining.

It depends on what denomination you are, too. What denomination are they? Catholic churches are still all stained glass and stuff, for the most part.

[Hulkein]

PS. Mary spoke to the three children at Fatima in the early 1900s. Not 'God,' but a divine message.

[Tisket]

Robertson is a joke. He's a southern fucking baptist for chrissakes. Of course he's all about terrorizing his flock whenever possible.

[Nieninque]

As an alien, do you think he even knows English?

God, or Georgie-Boy?

[Sean of the Thread]

Southern Baptist > Catholicism

[Parkbandit]

God, or Georgie-Boy?

Pretty sure George W Bush isn't an alien... except in maybe TheE's fantasy world... then you would have to ask him.

[Tisket]

Southern Baptist > Catholicism

The more than one billion Catholics in the world might disagree. They'd definitely win in a brawl anyway...

[Hulkein]

Southern Baptist > Catholicism

MY RELIGION IS BETTER THAN YOUR RELIGION!!!1

[Sean of the Thread]

The more than one billion Catholics in the world might disagree. They'd definitely win in a brawl anyway...

The more than one billion protestants might disagree on both accounts.

[Tisket]

Protestants are so splintered they couldn't reach a consensus on anything if they had a gun to their heads...

Reminds me of a joke:


I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump off. So I ran over and said, "Stop! Don't do it!" "Why shouldn't I?" he said. I said, "Well, there's so much to live for!" He said, "Like what?" I said, "Well, are you religious or atheist?" He said, "Religious." I said, "Me too! Are your Christian or Buddhist?" He said, "Christian." I said, "Me too! Are you Catholic or Protestant?" He said, "Protestant." I said, Me too! Are your Episcopalian or Baptist? He said, "Baptist!" I said, "Wow! Me too! Are your Baptist Church of God or Baptist Church of the Lord? He said, Baptist Church of God!" I said, "Me too! Are your Original Baptist Church of God or are you Reformed Baptist Church of God?" He said, "Reformed Baptist Church of God!" I said, "Me too! Are you Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1879, or Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915?" He said, "Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915!" I said, "Die, heretic scum!" and pushed him off.

[Tisket]

On a side note, we have a politics folder and a sports folder. Why don't we have a religion folder for those who would like to avoid the subject entirely?

[Sean of the Thread]

The one thing Catholics can agree on is that they hate being Catholic.

[Hulkein]

You just made that up.

[Latrinsorm]

On a side note, we have a politics folder and a sports folder. Why don't we have a religion folder for those who would like to avoid the subject entirely?You can't escape, we're everywhere. :devil:

Er... :saint:

[Apathy]

What do you get with four Catholics?

A fifth.

[HarmNone]

On a side note, we have a politics folder and a sports folder. Why don't we have a religion folder for those who would like to avoid the subject entirely?

Well, this one would be easy to avoid. The name "Pat Robertson" was your first clue. ;)

I don't see enough interest to warrant a separate topic for religious discussion. Politics and sports did seem to have a number of people interested in discussion pertaining to those issues. That's why the forums were created for those.

However, if you notice a topic that is not religiously oriented being derailed by such discussion, please report it to the topic moderator, Kranar, or me.

[Sean of the Thread]

However, if you notice a topic that is not religiously oriented being derailed by such discussion, please report it to the topic moderator, Kranar, or me.

hahahahahahahahahaha

[Tisket]

Well shit, I just wanted to get Latrinsorm his very own folder. A place he could call home. Crap.

[Back]

What the hell would motivate Pat Robertson to say such a thing? What good can come from the vague statement?

Manipulation through fear.

No specific city or time but reference to a possible nuke? The more I think about it the more this asshole pisses me off. Its totally irresponsible. He preys on the weak minded for his own self importance. How can people really prop up this “man of God.” He should be crucified.

[Latrinsorm]

Well shit, I just wanted to get Latrinsorm his very own folder. A place he could call home. Crap.:heart:

I appreciate it, but I'll always have a home in the heart of my myspace/PC friend (i.e. you). :love:

[Some Rogue]

What good can come from the vague statement?

Manipulation through fear.

Its totally irresponsible. He preys on the weak minded for his own self importance. He should be crucified.


Huh...almost sounds like most of our politicians these days.

[Tsa`ah]

I think CT was pointing out that God has never told anyone of a great disaster and instructed them to warn everyone.

Lot And Noah are poor examples to use because they were instructed to get their own and get the fuck out of Dodge ... screw everyone else.

If you're thinking along the lines of prophets, well they were given an inkling of what could be if things didn't change. Prophets were largely ignored and the bad shit went down.

When you combine literairy licence and 20/20 hindsight ... you get religious texts.

Pat Robertson on the other hand ... Well anyone else would be laughable, Robertson is scary. Scary in the sense that people follow him. I'm not talking about his "100s of millions of viewers" who are in reality anyone who subscribes to a cable service; I'm talking about the 100s of thousands, if not millions that actively watch his drivel.

He, and other evangelists, can pretty much tell their loyal "sponsorship" (customers) how to vote, what to buy ... all in all how to live, and they do it.

If he says great disaster, there are people that believe him. If he were to name a specific location (notice he's vague as vague can be), thus saving the faithful ... there would be a small exodus of people from said location.

I any case, it's win win for him. If a disaster happens it was due to a lack of faith. He was right, more followers, more cash. If he was wrong, well he wasn't wrong. The faithful came through with prayers and cash.

[Sean of the Thread]

By the same exact reasoning GOD is scary because people follow him. It's ok because most of us find him laughable as well. (GOD)

[Some Rogue]

Or any celebrity who will tell people what to think/how to act/how to vote.

[Parkbandit]

I think CT was pointing out that God has never told anyone of a great disaster and instructed them to warn everyone.

Lot And Noah are poor examples to use because they were instructed to get their own and get the fuck out of Dodge ... screw everyone else.




I'm not a god fearing man, but I doubt if there really was this alien that made the world and looked after us, that he would tell Noah to screw everyone else.

[CrystalTears]

The flood was God's Etch-a-Sketch. Oops, that wasn't right, let me start over. :D

[Tsa`ah]

I'm not a god fearing man, but I doubt if there really was this alien that made the world and looked after us, that he would tell Noah to screw everyone else.

I'm not implying that there is a god, master alien race, or anything else that you should believe.

The only reason was to point out what I believed CT response was referring to.

These are literary references passed on by mouth from generation to generation until the culture advanced enough to put the gist of the story to something less affected by the passing of years. You can believe or not believe ... or you can take "god" out of the picture and logically think of what inspired the story ... some of us do.

[CrystalTears]

I think CT was pointing out that God has never told anyone of a great disaster and instructed them to warn everyone.
Tsa`ah gets me. Scary, but true. :)

[Back]

Huh...almost sounds like most of our politicians these days.

http://www.analyzemath.com/cosine/cosine-1.gif


One party is the talk of what you should fear. The other party is the talk of what you should look forward too.

[Sean of the Thread]

http://www.analyzemath.com/cosine/cosine-1.gif


One party is the talk of what you should fear. The other party is the talk of what you should look forward too.

Idiot.

[Back]

Idiot.

I’m beginning to think you have Tourettes. Is this a new discovery... message board posting Tourettes?

We could call it Sean2itis.

[Sean of the Thread]

I'm sure I'm in the vast majority when I call you an idiot so I'm not gonna sweat it.

[Parkbandit]

You are.

I'm trying to think of anyone smart that actually takes Backlash seriously on any political thread.

[Back]

You are.

I'm trying to think of anyone smart that actually takes Backlash seriously on any political thread.

The fact that you would back him up makes your intelligence questionable. Despite my own.

[Back]

http://www.jettheband.com/

[Sean of the Thread]

The fact that you would back him up makes your intelligence questionable. Despite my own.

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showpost.php?p=546676&postcount=76

[Back]

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showpost.php?p=546676&postcount=76

Genius.

[Sean of the Thread]

Genius.

That's twice I've agreed with you now.

[xtc]

So recently (to appease my boyfriend's mom) I've been going to church with her every Sunday morning. Hasn't changed my ideas on religion or faith. I don't see anything wrong with church, I think it teaches good morals. Anyway... The first time I go with her to her church my jaw drops. The place is HUGE and has a coffee shop, a mini resturant, bookstore, huge indoor kids playground. It's as big as a mini mall. We get inside and smiling faces welcome us to come in and sit down, it's stadium seating by the way. I started to read over the little pamphlet they handed me (this is before Christmas time) and there's a whole page dedicated to donations in cash, plastic, items and real estate. And I guess the pastor makes somewhere over and above the six figure range a year. Now once again, I'm not saying anything is wrong with having a "pimped out church" But they've kinda changed from the days of stained glass and velvet lining.

Next time you're in church ask the Minister or Priest about the gospel of John, Chapter 2, specifically verses 13-19

"Now the Passover of the Jews was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem. And He found in the temple those who sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the money changers doing business. When He had made a whip of cords, He drove them all out of the temple, with the sheep and the oxen, and poured out the changers’ money and overturned the tables. And He said to those who sold doves, “Take these things away! Do not make My Father’s house a house of merchandise!.........Jesus answered and said to them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”