View Full Version : Buh Bye Citgo.
Sean of the Thread
09-27-2006, 01:11 PM
Keep up the good work Chavez! :tool:
AP
7-Eleven Dropping Venezuela-Backed Citgo
Wednesday September 27, 12:16 pm ET
7-Eleven Dropping Venezuela-Backed Citgo As Its Gasoline Supplier
DALLAS (AP) -- Convenience store operator 7-Eleven Inc. is dropping Venezuela-backed Citgo as its gasoline supplier at more than 2,100 locations and switching to its own brand of fuel.
The retailer said Wednesday it will purchase fuel from several distributors, including Tower Energy Group of Torrance, Calif., Sinclair Oil of Salt Lake City, and Houston-based Frontier Oil Corp.
...
Citgo is a Houston-based subsidiary of Venezuela's state-owned oil company, and the foreign parent became a public-relations issue for 7-Eleven because of comments by Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.
Chavez has called President George W. Bush the devil and an alcoholic. The U.S. government has warned that Chavez is a destabilizing force in Latin America.
7-Eleven spokesman Margaret Chabris said that, "Regardless of politics, we sympathize with many Americans' concern over derogatory comments about our country and its leadership recently made by Venezuela's president Hugo Chavez.
Chabris said a boycott of Citgo gasoline would hurt the 4,000 employees of the U.S. subsidiary, who have no connection to Venezuela. :(
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060927/7_eleven_citgo.html?.v=5
Wezas
09-27-2006, 01:18 PM
I use Shell almost exclusively unless there's a huge price difference or there's no Shells nearby.
I'm aware I'm financing terrorists or drug dealers or something similar, so save your lecture.
Skirmisher
09-27-2006, 01:20 PM
I've refused to patronize any Citgo's since Chavez has been blasting off his mouth.
There are plenty of alternatives.
Tromp
09-27-2006, 01:21 PM
Stupid IMO but they have every right to do so. Stinks for those 4K employees that have nothing to do with the political BS.
Plenty of other users for their gasolino.
Understandable move on 7-Eleven's part.
Honestly, I don't see Americans boycotting any particular gasonline company due to comments made by Chavez or anyone else for that matter. We won't even boycott when we're being charged almost $4.00 a gallon, let alone doing so because Chavez criticized our president. (Ok, except for Skirmisher)
I imagine his big mouth has been a public relations nightmare for 7-Eleven and his other American business interests due to his inability to think before he speaks. He sort of had it coming in that respect.
With the increased demand, those Citgo employee's RIF'd because of the switch can go to work for the Tower Energy Group of Torrance, Calif., Sinclair Oil of Salt Lake City, and Houston-based Frontier Oil Corp.
Its not like they dont have transferrable skills.
My reaction to the news of Citgo losing the contract?
:clap:
Sean of the Thread
09-27-2006, 01:30 PM
I've refused to patronize any Citgo's since Chavez has been blasting off his mouth.
There are plenty of alternatives.
It's usually more expensive anyways.
Skirmisher
09-27-2006, 01:35 PM
Odd as its generally cheaper here than most other major brands which is why i used to patronize it.
Anebriated
09-27-2006, 01:58 PM
Citgo is shitty gas anyway.
Usurper83
09-27-2006, 02:18 PM
Since Exxon/Mobil used to put food on my table when I was younger (up until Mobil merged with Exxon), I only get gas from Exxon/Mobil. My pa-dukes worked for Mobil for 30 years (no, not as a gas attendent--all sorts of a chemical engineer, which makes me wonder why I hated chemistry).
In fact, I think there might be one Citgo station in my town, and I live in a pretty big fucking town.
Hooray for Seven-E.:headbutt:
Wezas
09-27-2006, 02:22 PM
My first job was at a Shell gas station, and I learned tons at that job that helped me in my corporate career.
I do frequent 7-11 though. Coke slurpees are an addiction that I've tamed back to 1/week.
Tromp
09-27-2006, 02:26 PM
I do frequent 7-11 though. Coke slurpees are an addiction that I've tamed back to 1/week.
Honeslty, do you eat anything healthy Wezi?
CrystalTears
09-27-2006, 02:30 PM
We use BJ's Wholesale Club gas so no worries. I don't even know where there's a Citgo around here.
Artha
09-27-2006, 02:36 PM
BJ's Wholesale
Can I make an order?
Stanley Burrell
09-27-2006, 02:39 PM
We use BJ's Wholesale Club gas so no worries. I don't even know where there's a Citgo around here.
I have never seen anything as ridiculous as BJ's (off Dixwell.)
You can buy cow amounts of barbeque meat for a decent price. And everything there is pretty universal where sales of whatever is concerned.
I never understood the concept of supersized until I had the oppurtunity not to shop in claustrophobic NYC grocery stores.
Also, 7-11 is fucking retarded; they'll need all those terrorist cashiers to fight the power! (Yes, I am aware they are mostly Hindi and nice peeply-peeple.)
Stanley Burrell
09-27-2006, 02:40 PM
Can I make an order?
The place is almost as good as its innuendo. No foolin'.
Skirmisher
09-27-2006, 02:46 PM
I would use Costco but some laws here in Jersey do not allow them to sell gas I think.
Anebriated
09-27-2006, 02:56 PM
Since Exxon/Mobil used to put food on my table when I was younger (up until Mobil merged with Exxon), I only get gas from Exxon/Mobil. My pa-dukes worked for Mobil for 30 years (no, not as a gas attendent--all sorts of a chemical engineer, which makes me wonder why I hated chemistry).
In fact, I think there might be one Citgo station in my town, and I live in a pretty big fucking town.
Hooray for Seven-E.:headbutt:
I work for them currently as a consultant. Dealing with Environmental issues and whatnot. Im kind of partial to their gas as well.
Sean of the Thread
09-27-2006, 03:08 PM
Sam's Club usually has decent prices on gas in my hood.. as does Albertsons. Have no idea where they get their gas but I usually hit up "Dodge's" as it's near the cheapest around which was 2.25 today.
Anebriated
09-27-2006, 03:22 PM
Generally places like Sam's Club and Albertsons get their gas from whereever they can find it cheapest. They dont have a set provider.
Sean of the Thread
09-27-2006, 03:25 PM
Personally I don't shop for gas prices.. I think it's retarded. When I need gas.. I pull over and get some. If I save .60 cents on a fucking fill up than WOOO HOOO.
Some Rogue
09-27-2006, 03:47 PM
Generally places like Sam's Club and Albertsons get their gas from whereever they can find it cheapest. They dont have a set provider.
In other words, it's shitty gas.
Anebriated
09-27-2006, 03:54 PM
Not always. It depends on what refineries are in the area or how far it has to be shipped etc. Sometimes you might get really good gas because it doesnt have to go far. All depends on the market at the time.
Usurper83
09-27-2006, 04:02 PM
Personally I don't shop for gas prices.. I think it's retarded. When I need gas.. I pull over and get some. If I save .60 cents on a fucking fill up than WOOO HOOO.
I agree.
When I was working as an area supervisor at my old pool company, I was driving roughly 200 miles a day. Some parts of my area had gas for about 10-15 cents cheaper than the ones on the other end of my area. Depending on where I was in the beginning of the summer, I would search for the cheaper Exxon/Mobils. Towards mid-June I stopped this practice, because I realized all I was saving was a buck, and my gas bill was subsidized by my gas allowance.
11 gallon tank, 10 cents per gallon, is a buck ten. Who cares. I only care about putting the same kind of gas in my tank, because it makes me sleep better at night.
Skirmisher
09-27-2006, 04:04 PM
Personally I don't shop for gas prices.. I think it's retarded. When I need gas.. I pull over and get some. If I save .60 cents on a fucking fill up than WOOO HOOO.
I won't travel miles and miles, but you can keep your eyes open while doing everyday driving and if driving 10 blocks from one place to the less expensive saves me 10 cents a gallon, which it commonly does, i'll do it.
Stanley Burrell
09-27-2006, 04:10 PM
In other words, it's shitty gas.
My dealership will refund me for mileage and not hydrocarbon sludge from using Oil of Olay when it's time to set up a trade, thankfully.
And gas shittiness is most probably dependent on how far out in the boondocks one is.
Wezas
09-27-2006, 04:16 PM
I know of a few gas stations that just gouge the hell out of the prices, only because they're off of major roads.
I just don't use those stations. I hit the stations that are either closer to my house, or closer to my work. Not right in between where major interstates are.
Anebriated
09-27-2006, 04:17 PM
And gas shittiness is most probably dependent on how far out in the boondocks one is.
You can find some pretty shitty gas in very rural/urban areas. Its a matter of the company that refines it. Each company has their own process to refine it and they will refine it to different levels. Generally no name brands of gas stations dont refine their own gas but use larger companies who refine extreme quantities to supply their gas.
I know of a few gas stations that just gouge the hell out of the prices, only because they're off of major roads.
Pretty much.
Parkbandit
09-27-2006, 04:30 PM
7-11 dropping Citgo was in the works well before Chavez' recent retarded UN statement. They are just using his stupidity to advertise and pull on the hearts of the American public.
Good for them.
Anebriated
09-27-2006, 04:38 PM
7-11/Citgo gas is a minor player in the gas market. Its no real loss.
It's usually more expensive anyways.
Citgo here for example is like $0.30 - $0.40 cheaper per gallon than say Exxon. What I pay for premium at the Citgo near my office I'd pay for regular at Exxon. Shell and Gulf are the only gas companies that come close to Citgo around me. Although I like shell because I can just buy 91 Octate instead of 93. If I can save $3-$5 on gas a week I'm not going to complain.
ElanthianSiren
09-27-2006, 04:55 PM
2.69 9 today for deisel at the family owned royal station on 202 -- I don't buy from anybody else, largely because their kids are awesome, and you can buy styrofoam containers of homemade chicken saag (a spinach dish) in the store. Yum!
Boycotts rarely work if the product is cheaper in a capitalistic system, which someone noted it isn't. All in all :shrug:
-M
Skirmisher
09-27-2006, 05:05 PM
Boycotts rarely work if the product is cheaper in a capitalistic system, which someone noted it isn't. All in all :shrug:
-M
Very often true.
I'm not part of some organized boycott though rather, expressing my preference in an individual manner and spending my gas money elsewhere.
Gas is $1.95 (regular) at the Diamond Shamrock station 1.5 miles from my house.
Cheapest I've seen in a long long time.
The local Citgo stations are around 2.10/gal which is a little higher than several shell stations, diamond shamrock stations, and a cononco.
Sean of the Thread
09-27-2006, 05:55 PM
I'm with Skirm.
Drew2
09-27-2006, 06:25 PM
Gas is $1.95 (regular) at the Diamond Shamrock station 1.5 miles from my house.
Cheapest I've seen in a long long time.
The local Citgo stations are around 2.10/gal which is a little higher than several shell stations, diamond shamrock stations, and a cononco.
2.06 is the cheapest I see near where I work/live. =(
Wait, you live where I work. Where the fuck is it 1.95?
Diamond Shamrock Beechnut @ Willcrest, past the SH Tollway.
Click on my cheap gas link in my sig and enter in zip 77036.
Edited to add:
And now another Diamond Shamrock has $1.95 up on Beechnut, just a litle inside the SH Tollway.
I like what I'm seeing.
Stanley Burrell
09-27-2006, 07:27 PM
On-topic, in case anyone missed it:
BOSTON -- A city councilor wants to take down the famed Citgo sign in Kenmore Square in response to controversial remarks by Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez, who called President Bush "the devil."
The Citgo sign has been a Boston landmark for decades, in part because it is so prominently visible over the left-field wall at Fenway Park.
But after Chavez called President Bush "the devil" during a speech Wednesday at the United Nations, Councilor Jerry McDermott said the sign has to go. Citgo is subsidiary of Venezuela's state oil company. McDermott wants replace the sign with an American flag.
"Given the hatred of the United States displayed by dictator Hugo Chavez, it would be more fitting to see an American flag when you drive through Kenmore Square," McDermott told The Boston Herald. "I think people would soon forget the Citgo sign."
Citgo paid $1 million to refurbish the sign last year, said company spokesman David McCollum, who downplayed McDermott's proposed nonbinding resolution.
"We leave the politics to the politicians," he said.
The Red Sox had no comment, but fan Peter Garmley said he'd consider supporting the resolution.
"It's an icon, but I'm a little on the fence, because I think you should invest in what you believe in," said the Natick resident, who said he once climbed the Citgo tower.
An attempt by Citgo to dismantle the sign in the early 1980s was abandoned after strong opposition from the city.
Stanley Burrell
09-27-2006, 07:31 PM
On-topic, in case anyone missed it:
BOSTON -- A city councilor wants to take down the famed Citgo sign in Kenmore Square in response to controversial remarks by Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez, who called President Bush "the devil."
The Citgo sign has been a Boston landmark for decades, in part because it is so prominently visible over the left-field wall at Fenway Park.
But after Chavez called President Bush "the devil" during a speech Wednesday at the United Nations, Councilor Jerry McDermott said the sign has to go. Citgo is subsidiary of Venezuela's state oil company. McDermott wants replace the sign with an American flag.
"Given the hatred of the United States displayed by dictator Hugo Chavez, it would be more fitting to see an American flag when you drive through Kenmore Square," McDermott told The Boston Herald. "I think people would soon forget the Citgo sign."
Citgo paid $1 million to refurbish the sign last year, said company spokesman David McCollum, who downplayed McDermott's proposed nonbinding resolution.
"We leave the politics to the politicians," he said.
The Red Sox had no comment, but fan Peter Garmley said he'd consider supporting the resolution.
"It's an icon, but I'm a little on the fence, because I think you should invest in what you believe in," said the Natick resident, who said he once climbed the Citgo tower.
An attempt by Citgo to dismantle the sign in the early 1980s was abandoned after strong opposition from the city.
Rumor also has it that David Ortiz has vouched to replace the sign with a ginormous modern art sculpture of a testosterone mollecule made out of the magical blood, sweat and tears of Jose Conseco.
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