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09-22-2006, 10:57 AM
This is just classic.


Black Republicans run racially tinged ad (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060921/ap_on_el_se/black_republicans_ad;_ylt=AlXb0oEtlCdHHkoNvG9AN6WM 5QcF;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHVqMTQ4BHNlYwN5bnN1YmNhdA--)

By KRISTEN WYATT, Associated Press Writer Thu Sep 21, 3:01 PM ET


ANNAPOLIS, Md. - A national black Republican group is running a radio advertisement accusing Democrats of starting the Ku Klux Klan and saying the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. was a Republican, a claim challenged by civil-rights researchers.

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Lt. Gov. Michael Steele, the black Republican nominee for Maryland's open Senate seat, disavowed the ad Thursday as "insulting to Marylanders". He said his campaign asked the Washington-based National Black Republican Association to stop running it.

At an event in Baltimore, Steele said, "I don't know exactly what the intent of the ad was" but that "it's not helpful to the public discourse."

The ad does not mention Steele or his Democratic opponent, Rep. Ben Cardin.

The association's president, Frances Rice, did not return calls for comment. The group, founded a year ago, promotes the GOP to black voters.

It was not immediately clear which radio stations were airing the 60-second ad or how long it had been running. The group's Web site announced the ad's release in a statement dated two weeks ago. The Washington Post reported Thursday that the ad was running on Baltimore stations.

The spot begins with one woman telling another, "Dr. King was a real man. You know he was a Republican."

Steve Klein, a senior researcher with the Atlanta-based King Center, said Thursday that King never endorsed candidates from either party.

"I think it's highly inaccurate to say he was a Republican because there's really no evidence," Klein said.

A King biographer, Taylor Branch, also said Thursday that King was nonpartisan.

In the ad, the woman goes on to say, "Democrats passed those black codes and Jim Crow laws. Democrats started the Ku Klux Klan." Her companion replies, "The Klan? White hoods and sheets?"

The KKK, never a political party, was a racist group of white men that started in the South after the Civil War, when Republicans were almost unheard of in former Confederate states. The mainstream Democratic Party never endorsed the Klan nor claimed to have founded it.

The first woman also says, "Democrats fought all civil rights legislation from the 1860s to the 1960s. Democrats released those vicious dogs and fire hoses on blacks."

The ad asserts that "Democrats want to keep us poor while voting only Democrat" and, "Democrats want us to accept same-sex marriages, teen abortions without a parent's consent and suing the Boy Scouts for saying 'God' in their pledge."

About the GOP, the ad says: "Republicans freed us from slavery and put our right to vote in the Constitution."

The group running the ads describes itself on its Web site as "a resource for the black community on Republican ideals." It does not say how many members it has.

Race is a prominent theme in the Maryland race for the seat held by retiring Democrat Paul Sarbanes. Steele, the first black candidate elected statewide in Maryland, faces a white Democrat in a heavily Democratic state with the highest percentage of black residents — 29 percent — of any state outside the South.

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Associated Press Writer Ben Greene contributed to this report.

Anailea
09-22-2006, 10:59 AM
Way to encourage racism.

Anailea

Wezas
09-22-2006, 11:00 AM
Saw this on the news last night. It was laughable.

DeV
09-22-2006, 11:06 AM
Almost as bad as Log Cabin Republicans.

Sean
09-22-2006, 11:19 AM
because you know the Democratic and Republican parties are both identical now to what they were back then...

Anyway I'm of the opinion that the subject of racism will never go away or atleast lessen until we step away from having to label everything black, white, etc. If your a republican your a republican whats it matter if your black or white or whatever. It just makes me annoyed more than anything to see people intentionally trying to sabotage progress by preying on the uneducated.

Landrion
09-22-2006, 11:23 AM
What balls of unusual magnitude.

Gan
09-22-2006, 11:49 AM
Its retarded, and sad, and then retarded again. :(

Some Rogue
09-22-2006, 11:57 AM
Anyway I'm of the opinion that the subject of racism will never go away or atleast lessen until we step away from having to label everything black, white, etc.

Totally agree with that. Unfortunately, often times its the black, latino, or whatever other race of people who are the ones doing the labelling.

FinallyDomesticated
09-22-2006, 12:04 PM
How anyone expects to ever fully move on from slavery and racism when they keep coming up with new ways to promote black vs white mentality is beyond me.

"Every man must decide whether he will walk in the light of creative altruism or in the darkness of destructive selfishness."

TheEschaton
09-22-2006, 12:07 PM
the Washington-based National Black Republican Association

I totally just got a picture of a hotel room with Clarence Thomas and, like, 2 other guys, like the father from Sister-Sister, and the brother of Whoopi Goldberg in that sitcom she had a few years ago where she ran a B&B in NYC.

And I agree with Tijay, and Some Rogue. We have to stop labelling to end the racism national dialogue, and most of the labelling is done by minorities in general (because you white folks are too scared to label anything these days....notice the irony in this statement).

I am an American, not an Indian-American or a South Asian American. I am a Law Student, NOT A FUCKING LAW STUDENT OF COLOR.

WTF does that mean, OF COLOR? Isn't white a color? Actually, isn't it the combination of all colors???????

I love those organizations, because it deems they don't exclude white people, but assumes that non-white people want to hang out with each other exclusively.

-TheE-

Some Rogue
09-22-2006, 12:13 PM
(because you white folks are too scared to label anything these days....notice the irony in this statement).

-TheE-

Heh, in this era of political correctness, do you blame us??

Sean of the Thread
09-22-2006, 12:14 PM
Doesn't make sense that they're wasting money on ads like that when everyone knows the republicans keep blacks from making it to the polls in the first place...

TheEschaton
09-22-2006, 12:16 PM
I find it hilarious I've stated a rather conventionally conservative position in this thread, and Xy has adopted a rather liberal, conspiratorial stance:


Doesn't make sense that they're wasting money on ads like that when everyone knows the republicans keep blacks from making it to the polls in the first place...

Sean of the Thread
09-22-2006, 12:18 PM
I find it hilarious that they don't teach second week law students sarcasm.

TheEschaton
09-22-2006, 12:23 PM
I'm being taught to be literal in my reading, first, and interpretive second. Had you included a /sarcasm, for example, I woulda known. If you wanted me to include a contextual analysis (IE, my knowledge that you're a conservative hack), then, yes, maybe the analysis would of been different. But I'd argue that my current analysis A) served my purposes, and B) is vague - even thinking of the contextual situation.

-TheE-

Sean of the Thread
09-22-2006, 12:23 PM
<---not conservative so I hope you're not paying too much for that Lerrrnin... or are you on gov't assistance?

TheEschaton
09-22-2006, 12:26 PM
I am not on gov't assistance. ;)

It's something like 36k a year, which is ridiculous, unless you consider that they pretty much guarantee you a 125k job after 3 years (if you want it, which I don't).

Public Interest FTW.

-TheE-

Sean
09-22-2006, 12:40 PM
Totally agree with that. Unfortunately, often times its the black, latino, or whatever other race of people who are the ones doing the labelling.

It works both ways, from all sides, playing the blame game with who does it more is counterproductive in my opinion.

FinallyDomesticated
09-22-2006, 12:42 PM
I am an American, not an Indian-American or a South Asian American. I am a Law Student, NOT A FUCKING LAW STUDENT OF COLOR.

WTF does that mean, OF COLOR? Isn't white a color? Actually, isn't it the combination of all colors???????

-TheE-

Okay.

It is my opinion that us white folks stutter around what to say because we don't know what to say. It seems, at times, like no matter what we say its the wrong thing. I work with two women who insist on being called women of color. "Don't call us black. We're not crayolas. We're gorgeous women of color." I live next to a guy who insists on NEVER being called African American. "I'm black. No need to cover that up with anything." His girlfriend however, insists on being called African American because "my people have suffered and been enslaved. Give me my propers." There was a conversation regarding a certain cheerleader on my squad. Someone asked which one she was exactly. A mother offered up that she was the tall, dark skinned girl. The girls mother suddenly got defensive. What do you mean by that? Dark skinned? The white mother said well, in my eyes all people are the same - some just darker and some just have lighter skin. The black mother became furious, yelling that "my people have gone through too much for you to lump us in the same as white people. We're black. We're not dark skinned. We're not one people with the whites. The whites will never know what we've been through. You better get your head right."

Its kind of hard to get it right when the rules are changed daily.

Sean
09-22-2006, 12:44 PM
I can't really think of a situation when I have to use racial identifiers at all with my coworkers...

Sean of the Thread
09-22-2006, 12:48 PM
What's the difference between a secretary and an asian secretary?

Wezas
09-22-2006, 01:26 PM
Decent tits?

Stanley Burrell
09-22-2006, 01:44 PM
What the motherfucker?

That was after white flight reversed the roles of Republican and Democrat, ach aye?

TheEschaton
09-22-2006, 01:57 PM
The best part is, no black person alive today was ever a slave. Although you could argue that their position, socio-economically, in society today has been dictated by slavery.

I don't know - Indians were colonized by the British. But the first thing "we" (remember - I wasn't alive in 1947. Neither were my parents) did after Independence was re-establish cordial relations with the British.

All the hate and rancor is counterproductive, IMO. Malcolm X was relevant in the struggle to get equality. He is not relevant now, and in fact, he is counterproductive now. Malcolm X beating out MLK, Jr. in the present day philosophies of most African Americans FTL. :(

-TheE-

ElanthianSiren
09-22-2006, 01:59 PM
Actually, white is the absence of color, which reflects light/heat.

Black is the combination of all colors, which absorbs light/heat.

Everyone is a bit prejudiced against what they don't "know," but racist/very prejudiced people, in general, are typically comfortable with their stance and very reluctant to try to understand what they don't know (how's that irony to just label in protest of labelling?). I can't image that you'll ever find someone who is 100% without prejudice; black, white, asian, or otherwise. The ad was stupid BTW. I have nothing further to add.

-M

TheEschaton
09-22-2006, 02:16 PM
White is the combination of colors. Black is the absence of color.

I think you're thinking of reflected light, and we're differing on perspectives.

White doesn't absorb colors, it reflects them all back, and black absorbs all colors, allowing none to be reflected back.

If you view absorbtion as the standard, then black is made up of all colors, and white, since it doesn't absorb, is none of them. However, most people define it in terms of reflection, since, after all, that's what the eye sees. Therefore, since white reflects all colors, it is therefore "made up" of all colors on the visible spectrum, and black is the lack of all colors.

I took Color Theory in high school art, damn it!

-TheE-

Back
09-22-2006, 02:21 PM
White is the combination of colors. Black is the absence of color.

I think you're thinking of reflected light, and we're differing on perspectives.

White doesn't absorb colors, it reflects them all back, and black absorbs all colors, allowing none to be reflected back.

If you view absorbtion as the standard, then black is made up of all colors, and white, since it doesn't absorb, is none of them. However, most people define it in terms of reflection, since, after all, that's what the eye sees. Therefore, since white reflects all colors, it is therefore "made up" of all colors on the visible spectrum, and black is the lack of all colors.

I took Color Theory in high school art, damn it!

-TheE-

Well, it all depends on the medium you are working with regards to color. True, in video and web, which is actually “light”, all colors make white and no colors make black. But if you are working in a physical medium such as oil painting, all colors will make black, and white is an absence of color.

ElanthianSiren
09-22-2006, 02:29 PM
Alas in genetics, white is the absence of pigment and thus color. AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! death to the recessive traits!

-M

Latrinsorm
09-22-2006, 04:56 PM
Black is the combination of all pigments.
White is the combination of all wavelengths of light, so in a loose sense it is the combination of all "colors" of light.
As skin color is caused by pigment, Melissa's interpretation is the most correct.

I don't think it's accurate to say that Malcolm X's was a message of hatred, even in his most brainwashed years.

Daniel
09-22-2006, 05:33 PM
This is why black people shouldn't be republicans.

Sean
09-22-2006, 05:48 PM
This is why black people shouldn't be republicans.

I bet it was some uber top level liberal secret where we paid them to run this ad campaign to smear the republicans!

Parkbandit
09-22-2006, 06:41 PM
This is why black people shouldn't be republicans.


This is why all Republicans hate Black people.

Apathy
09-22-2006, 07:42 PM
Looks like someone didn't read their history homework to me.

Alfster
09-23-2006, 06:49 AM
Okay.

It is my opinion that us white folks stutter around what to say because we don't know what to say. It seems, at times, like no matter what we say its the wrong thing.

Its kind of hard to get it right when the rules are changed daily.

I don't understand why you'd call them anything other than your friend/coworker/douchebag. I can't recall ever asking my black friends what they'd prefer because their skin color doesn't mean shit.

Daniel
09-23-2006, 01:14 PM
This is why all Republicans hate Black people.

Republicans love me.

Stanley Burrell
09-23-2006, 08:32 PM
Black is the combination of all pigments.
White is the combination of all wavelengths of light, so in a loose sense it is the combination of all "colors" of light.
As skin color is caused by pigment, Melissa's interpretation is the most correct.

I don't think it's accurate to say that Malcolm X's was a message of hatred, even in his most brainwashed years.

I don't think you can theoretically make a definite black pigment, per se.

Or unadulterated "white" light, if you really want to pull strings.

And yeah, MLK is definitely after the infamous white flight.

Back
10-19-2006, 12:17 PM
More crazy ads aimed at the black community...

Republican Group Chides Democrats With Abortion Ads (http://www.nysun.com/article/41648?page_no=1)
Aim Is To Win Minority Voters, But Democrats Cry Foul

By JOSH GERSTEIN - Staff Reporter of the Sun
October 17, 2006


A little-known Republican group that claims to have swayed the 2004 presidential election with provocative radio advertising aimed at black and Hispanic audiences is spending nearly $1 million this year to boost the GOP's chances of holding on to a majority in Congress.

The group, America's Pac, began running ads last month in more than two dozen congressional districts.The campaign discusses issues ranging from warrantless wiretapping to school choice, but the most inflammatory spots pertain to abortion.

"Black babies are terminated at triple the rate of white babies," a female announcer in one of the ads says, as rain, thunder, and a crying infant are heard in the background. "The Democratic Party supports these abortion laws that are decimating our people, but the individual's right to life is protected in the Republican platform. Democrats say they want our vote.Why don't they want our lives?"

Another ad features a dialogue between two men.

"If you make a little mistake with one of your ‘hos,' you'll want to dispose of that problem tout suite, no questions asked," one of the men says.

"That's too cold. I don't snuff my own seed," the other replies.

"Maybe you do have a reason to vote Republican," the first man says.

Sean
10-19-2006, 12:23 PM
That ad doesn't even make any sense.

Atlanteax
10-19-2006, 12:25 PM
Abortion Debate at its finest.

ElanthianSiren
10-19-2006, 12:34 PM
:lol: Dunno what you're talking about. I see democrats every day put guns to peoples' heads and MAKE them have abortions. Damnit, now where's my tinfoil hat?

-M

DeV
10-19-2006, 12:36 PM
Sickening.

Skirmisher
10-19-2006, 03:06 PM
Perhaps a new low.

Sean of the Thread
10-19-2006, 03:19 PM
Is this a bad ad to make a welfare joke about?

Apathy
10-19-2006, 07:10 PM
Is this a bad ad to make a welfare joke about?

What's the difference between a black man and a pizza?

Alfster
10-19-2006, 07:15 PM
What's the difference between a black man and a pizza?

I've only heard that one in reference to a jew, heh

HarmNone
10-19-2006, 07:17 PM
Let's not go there. Discriminatory remarks, jokes or not, are against TOS. See Objectionable Content. If such posts show up, they will be removed.

xtc
10-26-2006, 02:39 PM
I find it hilarious that they don't teach second week law students sarcasm.

Humour and lawyers are diametrically opposed.