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01-03-2006, 02:23 PM
Op-ed by Andrew Foster Altschul (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andrew-foster-altschul/2006-the-dems-makeorb_b_13186.html)

Some Thoughts for Howard Dean, Harry Reid, Bob Schrum, Donna Brazile, John Podesta, Nancy Pelosi, and the Rest of the Shit-for-Brains So-Called Leaders of the Democratic Party, at the Start of 2006, a Year Which Will Either Restore the Party to Political Relevance or Witness Its Ultimate Humiliation and Extinction

My New Years resolutions are to stop smoking and finish my novel.

Yours should be to cut the crap and start winning. Here are some suggestions.

- It's the Constitution, stupid. You'll never get a better Christmas gift than the NSA wiretapping scandal. What are you going to do with it? Are you going to let this one slide into the murmurs of committee hearings and "Washington Week," or are you going to stand up and insist -- loudly, repeatedly, unswervingly -- that this is a country of laws, that the President has admitted on national television that he broke the law, that he intends to continue breaking the law "so long as [he is] President," and that in order to preserve the rule of law, criminals must be punished? The public must be shown that this is a vitally important issue. If that means calling the Senate into closed session, if it means boycotting one-sided Congressional hearings, if it means shutting down the government with a party-wide walk-out, the Republicans must not be allowed to change the subject.

- Stay on topic. Republicans will want the hearings to focus on the question of whether what the President did was legal. They want the matter to appear as a "judgment call," critics as willing to sacrifice national security for an uptight and overly complicated reading of a vague statute. But this is sophistry. There is a clear, unambiguous law, and the President did not obey it. That equals illegal, whatever his reasons. The President's assertion -- that he is qualified and entitled to assess the applicability of the law and to ignore it at will -- is the only relevant question. The question of legality has already been answered. It's not a question at all.

- It's the crime and the cover-up. Here's a question no one is asking: Since Bush knew a year ago that The New York Times would eventually run the wiretapping story, was Samuel Alito chosen for the Supreme Court specifically because he had previously defended this practice? Did Alito have any conversations with the President on this topic prior to the nomination? (A follow up: As White House Counsel, Harriet Miers is implicated in the NSA orders. Was her otherwise inexplicable Supreme Court nomination an attempt to get her "out of harm's way" before the story broke?)

- It is time to start calling things by their proper names. Here are some words to add to your vocabulary: Lying: As opposed to "misleading," "finessing," "not being straight with," etc. The President has lied to the country, to the Congress, to the media, to the world. Abuse of Power: In addition to drawing useful connections to Watergate in the minds of voters, this term has the virtue of being absolutely appropriate to the President's actions. Money Laundering: c.f. Tom DeLay. Bribery, is the only word that applies to those who took money from Jack Abramoff. Insider Trading and Blind Trust: If the latter is not truly blind, then it's the former, period. Blackmail: As in a Medicare official threatened with loss of job if he tells Congress the true price of the prescription drug plan, and Political Retaliation: As in what happened to General Shinseki and Valerie Plame. Criminal Negligence: As in Mike Brown, Paul Bremer, Donald Rumsfeld, et. so many al. As long as we insist on finding polite euphemisms for these things, the public will assume they are minor infractions, not serious matters.

- Don't use the I-word. Yet. The 2006 elections need to be about whether the country will tolerate the President's abuse of power, not whether it has the stomach for another impeachment ordeal. Here's the line: "The President, by his own admission, has broken the law. We are looking into the appropriate consequences for such actions."

- If you really adopt "Together We Can Do Better" as the party slogan, you can cancel my membership. Fire whoever came up with this. We are running to lead the country, not the Student Council.

- Don't beat up on Joe Lieberman. What's to be gained? Sure, he's an unctuous, opportunistic schmuck -- just ask Bill Clinton -- but we are not the party that punishes free-thinking, nor insists on conformity at the price of integrity. Lieberman's entitled to his opinion, self-serving though it might be. Leave him alone and start talking more forcefully about what the Democratic Party wants to do in -- or out of -- Iraq.

- Filibuster Samuel Alito if necessary. Alito is avowedly anti-choice and has shown his intention to rule as such from the bench. Any pro-choice Senator, Arlen Specter included, has a moral obligation to use whatever means available to defeat his nomination. It is not a question of strategy, it is a question of conviction: Are you pro-choice, or aren't you? (And in any case, preserving from the "nuclear option" a tactic you never intend to use hardly seems a useful strategy.)

- John Kerry is a terrible standard bearer. His every appearance validates the Republican caricature of Democrats as smug, patrician, out of touch; his indignation about Iraq is not convincing. Somebody needs to sit him down and tell him he is not the 2008 nominee and get him off the television.

- No matter what Republicans want you to believe, Americans have not rejected liberalism. On the contrary: quality education, affordable health care, strong national defense, financial responsibility, checks and balances, Social Security and pension protection, equal rights, privacy, freedom of speech and religion -- these are American priorities, to be protected from Republican recklessness and greed. We should not be ashamed to be liberals who fight for these things. We should be proud.

- The Democrats are the party of financial responsibility. National debt when Reagan took office in 1980: $1 trillion. National debt when Clinton took office in 1992: $4 trillion. National debt when George W. Bush took office in 2000: $5 trillion. National debt when Bush leaves office in 2008 (projected): $10 trillion. Any questions?

- It's now or never. The 2006 elections should see massive gains for the Democrats. I say "should" -- because we "should" have won in 2004, but for the timidity and ineptitude of the Kerry campaign. This year, the party must commit itself to a vigorous, unrelenting, no-holds-barred discussion of what this country stands for: American integrity, American values, American responsibility at home and abroad. Democratic candidates must not shy away from full-contact politics, nor from pointing out the criminality, and consequences, of the Party of Bush. They must not take the high-road of compromise and complacency of the past six years. Our country is being destroyed by gangsters, bigots, and crooks. We don't invite such people for tea and polite discussion. We defeat them.

- I cannot support a party that will not stand up for what it believes in. If the Democrats in 2006 can't be bothered to make an all-out attempt to win back Congress, to hold the President accountable, to restore American values to government, I can't be bothered to vote on Election Day. I suspect that many, many frustrated Democrats are with me on this. That is my promise to you.

- Happy New Year.


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Whew, thats one hell of an action list for the democrats. Leading up to the 04 election, and shortly afterward, many dems I know lamented about how weak Kerry and the party were. We had discussed how Kerry should have taken off the kid gloves and really let the other side have it by calling them on all their bull crap.

It will be surprising if the dems dont pull out all the stops this year. Like the author says, if they dont, how can anyone support them?

Ultimately, the responsibility of who wins resides with the people. If the dems can get more tough it might inspire more people to vote.

Alfster
01-03-2006, 02:44 PM
dude, get laid or something

Ravenstorm
01-03-2006, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by Backlash
Bribery, is the only word that applies to those who took money from Jack Abramoff.

Abromoff pleads guilty and cuts a deal. (http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0104/p01s03-uspo.html)

This should be interesting.

Raven

Atlanteax
01-03-2006, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by Backlash
[The Democrats are the party of financial responsibility

You're delusional.

Democrats are the ones (consitently on a historical level) unwilling to cut/slash Social Security, Education Funding (at the Federal Level), Welfare Programs, etc etc.

Those are obselete drains on the Federal budget.

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You can't pin the federal expediture of Iraq and the Hurricanes reconstruction on Bush...

... just as you can't pin the expediture of WW2 on FDR.

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You must at least agree on the aspect of the Hurricanes, as any president, Republican or Democrat, will have to help push reconstruction packages through. However, I do agree that Bush's response to Katrina was disappointing.

While I'd also agree that Iraq has been mismanaged (perhaps not so much as poor management as it would be the combination of lack of preparation and underestimation of resources required).

However, it will be demonstrated in the long run that Bush's decision to go into Iraq was a boon for U.S. strategic interests.

Keep in mind that the Marshall Plan was thought to be a horrible idea at first, but is now widely credited as an excellent move in the immediate post WW2 era.

TheEschaton
01-03-2006, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by Atlanteax

Originally posted by Backlash
[The Democrats are the party of financial responsibility

You're delusional.

Democrats are the ones (consitently on a historical level) unwilling to cut/slash Social Security, Education Funding (at the Federal Level), Welfare Programs, etc etc.

Those are obselete drains on the Federal budget.


Ummmmm, you're calling Social Security and Education and Welfare obsolete drains on the Federal budget, and you're calling him delusional?

The facts don't lie - even though Republicans SAY we want to spend more - Democrats spend less, and more wisely.

Just cause you say it ain't so, doesn't mean it ain't so.

-TheE-

Atlanteax
01-03-2006, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by TheEschaton

Originally posted by Atlanteax

Originally posted by Backlash
[The Democrats are the party of financial responsibility

You're delusional.

Democrats are the ones (consitently on a historical level) unwilling to cut/slash Social Security, Education Funding (at the Federal Level), Welfare Programs, etc etc.

Those are obselete drains on the Federal budget.


Ummmmm, you're calling Social Security and Education and Welfare obsolete drains on the Federal budget, and you're calling him delusional?

The facts don't lie - even though Republicans SAY we want to spend more - Democrats spend less, and more wisely.

Just cause you say it ain't so, doesn't mean it ain't so.

-TheE-

Social Security was implemented at a time when Portfolio/Asset Management was only practiced by the rich and affluent.

Now, it is generally standard practice for most of the Middle Class as well.

I say let the private citizen manage their own money.

If they go broke at 50 and cannot fund their retirement or healthcare or whatnot...

It's their fault/problem.

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Education should be handled on a state level. I mentioned before that I believe that students in poor districts who can't get some sort of scholarship-like funding for secondary school should instead go to some kind of corporate-sponsored trade school.

Perhaps American education standards will rise again when families take responsibility for their own kids, instead of treating the local school district as a glorified babysitting program and instinctively blame the teachers whenever their kid has a problem (or is being a problem).

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Welfare should be predominately charity-based.

In its current form, it generally only succeeds in enabling the problems to continue (where it becomes easy to disregard personal responsibility) and does not have a track record of solving them (probably because of a bloated bureacracy and the interference of special interest groups like the ACLU).

If you believe in it, you can contribute towards it. Otherwise, it should be a very small flat percentage "tax" on individuals earning more than $X (above the upper middle class).

Warriorbird
01-03-2006, 03:28 PM
In ten years of a Republican Congress, the deficit tripled. The Democrats have never been very fiscally responsible, but quite frankly the Republicans are even better at being LESS fiscally responsible than the Democrats have ever dreamed of.

STFU and go fix Michigan's shitty roads or something, Atlanteax. Driving in that state is enough to make someone want to commit suicide. You need to pay more taxes or something.

Back
01-03-2006, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by Atlanteax
Social Security was implemented at a time when Portfolio/Asset Management was only practiced by the rich and affluent.

Now, it is generally standard practice for most of the Middle Class as well.

I say let the private citizen manage their own money.

If they go broke at 50 and cannot fund their retirement or healthcare or whatnot...

It's their fault/problem.

.

Education should be handled on a state level. I mentioned before that I believe that students in poor districts who can't get some sort of scholarship-like funding for secondary school should instead go to some kind of corporate-sponsored trade school.

Perhaps American education standards will rise again when families take responsibility for their own kids, instead of treating the local school district as a glorified babysitting program and instinctively blame the teachers whenever their kid has a problem (or is being a problem).

.

Welfare should be predominately charity-based.

In its current form, it generally only succeeds in enabling the problems to continue (where it becomes easy to disregard personal responsibility) and does not have a track record of solving them (probably because of a bloated bureacracy and the interference of special interest groups like the ACLU).

If you believe in it, you can contribute towards it. Otherwise, it should be a very small flat percentage "tax" on individuals earning more than $X (above the upper middle class).

So basically it sounds like you want people to pay taxes to support a government that won’t support the people’s basic needs, or that the American tax payer is nothing more than a renewable/disposable natural resource.

An American works all his/her life, pays all his state, local and federal taxes on-the-level (without using corporate loopholes), supports the government at every turn is entitled to getting something in return after all those years.

[Edited on 1-3-2006 by Backlash]

Atlanteax
01-03-2006, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by Warriorbird
In ten years of a Republican Congress, the deficit tripled. The Democrats have never been very fiscally responsible, but quite frankly the Republicans are even better at being LESS fiscally responsible than the Democrats have ever dreamed of.

STFU and go fix Michigan's shitty roads or something, Atlanteax. Driving in that state is enough to make someone want to commit suicide. You need to pay more taxes or something.

This is the depressing explaination for the horrible condition of Michigan's roads.

Some time ago (likely post WW2), it was decided by the State Legislature that they should attempt a particular strategy.

At the time, the State wanted to discourage people from moving into the state.

So, they came up with the "brilliant" idea, if that they do not invest into road infrastructure (as in do not build new freeways, highways, etc), people won't move into the state and build new neighborhoods.

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A few decades later, Michigan has (minor) cities everywhere with obselete roads.

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Now the State is stuck playing catch-up, because they have to do the construction/rebuilding in stages, because people have to be able to commute (and are thus subjected to traffic snarls rivaling those of LA).

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I dunno if the Legislature was Rep or Dem (but probably Dem because Michigan is considered to be an Union state due to the Automobile industry, and thus likely to be Dem), but I blame whoever was the morons that came up with that absurd policy.

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Editted to fix typos.

[Edited on 1-3-2006 by Atlanteax]

Atlanteax
01-03-2006, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by Backlash
So basically it sounds like you want people to pay taxes to support a government that won’t support the people’s basic needs, or that the American tax payer is nothing more than a renewable/disposable natural resource.

An American works all his/her life, pays all his state, local and federal taxes on-the-level (without using corporate loopholes), supports the government at every turn is entitled to getting something in return after all those years.

I don't consider Welfare, Social Security, and Education to be "basic needs" as they're all facets that an individual can take responsibility for.

Sound personal fiscal responsibility (ignoring unfortunate employment circumstances that ideally would be temporarily) should deter the need for Welfare and Social Security.

State and Local Gov't can handle their own Education system. If they want to spend more/less on schools and textbooks, let them.

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Also keep in mind that Taxes will be significantly less.

Ideally individuals will put what they currently pay in SS taxes into their own investment portfolios, and use a portion of that to fund their own health insurance programs (which has the potential of lowering the overall cost of healthcare).

Other tax savings can be utilized as individually desired.

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The Gov't should be primarily responsible for facets such as National Security, Infrastructure and Commerce (tied together), and others of that nature where it is more practical for the US to handle it at the Federal level.

The Gov't should attempt to find commercial ways to ensure that its citizens has access to food/housing (food stamps still work, as they can only be "spent" on food) and requiring that there be "X" amount of public housing available (that individual states may not be able to support on their own).

Such an example of the later would be New Orleans of Lousiana. The state is one of the poorer states, but the importance of New Orleans in regard to the infrastructure of the Mississippi and other commerce applications, cannot be overstated. Thus the Federal Gov't would subside in such regions with public housing.

Warriorbird
01-03-2006, 03:50 PM
Regarding Michigan's roads, whoever they were, they clearly suck. For such an auto-based state there's no reason the roads should be like that.

As to the topic, I'd never claim that the Democrats were fiscally responsible (given as they were the enablers for the Reagan era spending spiral) but the Republicans in recent years have gone way beyond Democratic legislative spending levels.

TheEschaton
01-03-2006, 03:50 PM
If they go broke at 50 and cannot fund their retirement or healthcare or whatnot...

It's their fault/problem.


And not Ken Lay's, in the case of Enron employees?

Come on, you're an idiot. You're advocating some sort of "Every man [family] is an island" theory, just so what's yours can remain yours.

That strikes me as stupid. Not even higher mammals are that stupid, to try and hoard resources for just themselves.

-TheE-

Atlanteax
01-03-2006, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by TheEschaton

If they go broke at 50 and cannot fund their retirement or healthcare or whatnot...

It's their fault/problem.


And not Ken Lay's, in the case of Enron employees?

Come on, you're an idiot. You're advocating some sort of "Every man [family] is an island" theory, just so what's yours can remain yours.

That strikes me as stupid. Not even higher mammals are that stupid, to try and hoard resources for just themselves.

-TheE-

There should be legislation where the assets of individuals like Ken Lays are seized (including their absurd severance packages and "stock options" ) to help finance the defunct company's pension funds.

In the meantime, it's a tremendous social shame that such individuals continue to get away with such activities, primarily due to being generous contributors to politicans' (and special interests) campaign funds.

But I suppose it's not hopeless, as legislation has been strengthen and is poised to continue to be strengthen (and made harsher) due to the public outcry/dissatisfied at such scandals.

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I would also advise that individuals not invest their savings into a corporate-sponsored 401k as opposed to setting up their own indepent personal program.

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Btw, it is my understanding that the bulk of Enron employees *accepted* lower cash-based pay with the belief that their stock options and etc that comprised the bulk of their pension plans.

When Enron stock became worthless, so did those pension plans.

There's that saying about putting all your eggs in one (the company's) basket.

Also, that was the general theme of a lot of busted "dot-com" companies' employees ... they accepted pay that was predominantly stock-based, and not cash-based. They were greedy on the individual level (for example, "real pay" in cash was $20k while including stock aspects, pay was $60k). However, they did take the job.

Latrinsorm
01-03-2006, 04:29 PM
IRT to the first post: when Americans fight Americans, America loses.

Drew2
01-03-2006, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by Alfster
dude, get laid or something

R O F L

I kid you not, this was almost exactly my first thought when I saw YET ANOTHER politics thread by Backlash.

Back
01-03-2006, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by Tayre

Originally posted by Alfster
dude, get laid or something

R O F L

I kid you not, this was almost exactly my first thought when I saw YET ANOTHER politics thread by Backlash.

Thats funny coming from a couple of immature guys whose lives revolve around video games. :lol:

I’m not even the record politic thread maker. ftl

Real world issues. You don’t have to read the thread and if no one responds I won’t either. Pretty simple.

[Edited on 1-3-2006 by Backlash]

Warriorbird
01-04-2006, 08:34 AM
The same certainly doesn't apply to all the airline employees that have been screwed recently, however, Atlanteax.