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Gan
09-27-2005, 12:16 AM
Insurgents dressed as police kill six teachers

Monday, September 26, 2005; Posted: 10:26 p.m. EDT (02:26 GMT)


BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- A man believed to be al Qaeda's No. 2 operative in Iraq was killed Monday afternoon, a U.S. official confirmed to CNN.

Abu Azzam was a "significant" figure in the al Qaeda network in Iraq, the official said. Additional details about his death were not immediately available.

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I thought Al Queda was only in Afganastan?!? :rolleyes:

Artha
09-27-2005, 12:20 AM
No but they're only there because of the US you dumbie!!!!1

DeV
09-27-2005, 12:25 AM
1 down, 50 million more that will undoubtly take #2's place to go.

Terminator X
09-27-2005, 12:26 AM
That's great.

Where the fuck is Bin Laden?

DeV
09-27-2005, 12:26 AM
Originally posted by Ganalon
I thought Al Queda was only in Afganastan?!? :rolleyes: I thought there were weapons of mass destruction somewhere to be found in Iraq.

Warriorbird
09-27-2005, 12:28 AM
Not that we haven't killed Al Qaeda's number 1 man in Iraq, number 1 man in Iraq, number 2 man in Iraq, number 2 man in Iraq, and number 5 man in Iraq before. Twice.

Gan
09-27-2005, 01:00 AM
Originally posted by DeV

Originally posted by Ganalon
I thought Al Queda was only in Afganastan?!? :rolleyes: I thought there were weapons of mass destruction somewhere to be found in Iraq.

patience grasshopper

Not that when they are found you'll say it was a Bush plant or conspiracy!!!... :rolleyes:

peam
09-27-2005, 01:05 AM
Meet the new #2 man.. same as the old #2 man.

DeV
09-27-2005, 01:08 AM
Originally posted by Ganalon
Not that when they are found you'll say it was a Bush plant or conspiracy!!!... :rolleyes: Somehow I feel I'll never get the chance. :lol: @ peam

xtc
09-27-2005, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by Ganalon
I thought Al Queda was only in Afganastan?!? :rolleyes:

Al Qaida wasn't in Iraq during Saddam's reign. It was only since the US invaded that an opportunity to enter Iraq was created. Yeah for Bush, he gave Al Qaida another country to use.

Gan
09-27-2005, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by xtc
Al Qaida wasn't in Iraq during Saddam's reign.

So you say, there are others that will disagree with you. Unless you have sources that are far an beyond what the press and the CIA use.

xtc
09-28-2005, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by Ganalon

Originally posted by xtc
Al Qaida wasn't in Iraq during Saddam's reign.

So you say, there are others that will disagree with you. Unless you have sources that are far an beyond what the press and the CIA use.

911 Commission. It still kills me that people argue this point. No cooperation between Al Qaida and Saddam.

Back
09-28-2005, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by xtc

Originally posted by Ganalon

Originally posted by xtc
Al Qaida wasn't in Iraq during Saddam's reign.

So you say, there are others that will disagree with you. Unless you have sources that are far an beyond what the press and the CIA use.

911 Commission. It still kills me that people argue this point. No cooperation between Al Qaida and Saddam.

Sources beyond the CIA and the press? The CIA and the press are the ones who have said there is no connection. When you go beyond that you are out in left field.

It kills me too, xtc. And it literally kills innocent Iraqis and Americans in the process.

[edit for clarity]

[Edited on 9-28-2005 by Backlash]

Sean of the Thread
09-28-2005, 01:20 PM
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Pop it like it's hot
Pop it like it's hot
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They roll the best weed cause they don't know what's going on

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But only on the left side, yeah that's the blind side.

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Gan
09-28-2005, 01:25 PM
Actually, it was even said by NBC Nightly News David Gregory that Iraqi officials did meet with Al Queda as far back as 1994. The 9/11 comission report just stated that it was not established what was discussed or if it was reason enough for Bush to go to war over 9/11. This doesnt include the stories published in the 1998-1999 years by NPR, AP, and Newsweek covering much the same link between the two.

I would also site the work done by the Weekly Standard but thats more of a Republican publication and I wont pull a moveon.org stunt like some of my leftwristed bretheren would do.

Its only natural that Hussein would collude with Bin Ladin, what is in question is to what extent. I suppose we could ask Al Jeezera but would you believe what they would tell you?

So does that answer the question of whether or not AQ was a presence in Iraq during Hussein's rule? There definately is no rock solid proof. However, if it walks like a duck....

xtc
09-28-2005, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by Ganalon
Actually, it was even said by NBC Nightly News David Gregory that Iraqi officials did meet with Al Queda as far back as 1994. The 9/11 comission report just stated that it was not established what was discussed or if it was reason enough for Bush to go to war over 9/11. This doesnt include the stories published in the 1998-1999 years by NPR, AP, and Newsweek covering much the same link between the two.

I would also site the work done by the Weekly Standard but thats more of a Republican publication and I wont pull a moveon.org stunt like some of my leftwristed bretheren would do.

Its only natural that Hussein would collude with Bin Ladin, what is in question is to what extent. I suppose we could ask Al Jeezera but would you believe what they would tell you?

So does that answer the question of whether or not AQ was a presence in Iraq during Hussein's rule? There definately is no rock solid proof. However, if it walks like a duck....

The 9-11 commision concluded there was no link between Al Qaida and Saddam.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47812-2004Jun16.html

Saddam was a member of the Ba'ath party. The Ba'ath party is a left wing SECULAR Arab Socialist party.

Osama bin Laden is a right wing Islamic Wahabist. He is anything but a secular socialist. These are two entirely different animals. It would be unreasonable to conclude they cooperated.

Wahabism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahabism)

[Edited on 9-28-2005 by xtc]

Warriorbird
09-28-2005, 01:51 PM
However, if it walks like a duck....

Maybe it's a weapon of mass destruction!

The Al'Qaeda/Baath Party links simply weren't there until we gave them reason to be (IE, invading Iraq.)

I should be glad that theology and idealogy elude you so completely. Gives one hope.

[Edited on 9-28-2005 by Warriorbird]

Back
09-28-2005, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by xtc
Saddam was a member of the Ba'ath party. The Ba'ath party is a left wing SECULAR Arab Socialist party.[Edited on 9-28-2005 by xtc]

That right there speaks volumes.

DeV
09-28-2005, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by Ganalon
Its only natural that Hussein would collude with Bin Ladin, what is in question is to what extent. I suppose we could ask Al Jeezera but would you believe what they would tell you?

So does that answer the question of whether or not AQ was a presence in Iraq during Hussein's rule? There definately is no rock solid proof. However, if it walks like a duck.... omg not Donald Rumsfield too!?!?!!! Oh noez....


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Gan
09-28-2005, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by xtc
The 9-11 commision concluded there was no link between Al Qaida and Saddam.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47812-2004Jun16.html

Saddam was a member of the Ba'ath party. The Ba'ath party is a left wing SECULAR Arab Socialist party.

Osama bin Laden is a right wing Islamic Wahabist. He is anything but a secular socialist. These are two entirely different animals. It would be unreasonable to conclude they cooperated.

Wahabism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahabism)

[Edited on 9-28-2005 by xtc]

I never considered that relationship from a theological difference between the two. Bad on my part I suppose, but then as WB pointed out, it doesnt seem my strongpoint with regards to theology and idealism.

I'll concede the point then. :(

Warriorbird
09-30-2005, 08:47 AM
Suprise suprise!

He may not have been the number 2 man.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9518556/site/newsweek/

ElanthianSiren
09-30-2005, 10:02 AM
omg...they killed Al'Qaeda's top Baghdad accountant. Whatever will the organization do? Time to start interviewing CPA's and MBA's well-versed in propaganda; U.S. might have some to lend if they ask reeeeeeeally nicely and can ignore race and religious differences.

-M
tongue-in-cheek

Warriorbird
09-30-2005, 10:03 AM
Yeah, after all... gay people can't have Tom Delay's job or anything like that.

Gan
09-30-2005, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by ElanthianSiren
omg...they killed Al'Qaeda's top Baghdad accountant. Whatever will the organization do? Time to start interviewing CPA's and MBA's well-versed in propaganda; U.S. might have some to lend if they ask reeeeeeeally nicely and can ignore race and religious differences.

-M
tongue-in-cheek


I bet there are still a few Arther Anderson accountants that might give a good look at applying. Enron would look real good on their resume. :whistle:

Warriorbird
09-30-2005, 02:21 PM
We employed Lucky Luciano to take out Mussolini. It might be a good strategy.