Advice On Evil Teachers!

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by Artha
That was the intent. However, it seems everytime Atheana makes a thread about herself, it just turns into a big flame fest in no less than 5 posts.

Exactly my point, Artha. If Atheana's player does not respond to openly insulting posts, the sharks will gather elsewhere. ;)

HarmNone knows a bit about sharks

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by Artha
That was the intent. However, it seems everytime Atheana makes a thread about herself, it just turns into a big flame fest in no less than 5 posts.

Exactly my point, Artha. If Atheana's player does not respond to openly insulting posts, the sharks with gather elsewhere. ;)

HarmNone knows a bit about sharks

[CrystalTears]

I swore I wasn't going to reply anymore to this thread, but I do want to say this...

She was the one who started flaming first because she didn't like the response she received. Granted it wasn't a sweet and sugar-glazed answer, but it was a decent one nonetheless. She just went apeshit because of the source.

[Artha]

Granted it wasn't a sweet and sugar-glazed answer, but it was a decent one nonetheless.

There's a difference between sweet and sugar-glazed and mean for the sake of being mean. It was the latter, rather than the former.

[CrystalTears]

I understand what you're saying, but the initial responses she was getting weren't mean. If you look at the first few responses, he wasn't mean at all. She took it that way because of the source, nothing more. He didn't start getting defensive and nastier until she kept flaming him and telling him to go away.

However, I believe we're all guilty of continuing to force her to listen to us when she didn't want to. Once she started yelling at everyone, we should have just dropped the subject and ignored her. I just happen to be stubborn and was really trying to help her.

[Edited on 9/26/2003 by CrystalTears]

[Artha]

For one, I think you need to be able to atleast write correctly, with capitalization, grammar and spelling, before you even try teaching such things to others.

This was the first post. I've seen stray make second posts lots of times, even to people with bad grammar and spelling. This, however, was the only one where he criticized grammar and spelling.

Now, I know I'm probably going to read 'She was asking for advice, so she had it coming'. However, it's really not necessary. I do try to type correctly online, but not all the time. If anyone ever needs to IM me, you'll find I hardly ever use capitals. Critiquing grammar simply is not needed, especially if you're doing it in a mean way.

[Adhara]

It"s frustrating to see it took so many replies saying the same thing before one got to her. Whether it was sugar-coated or not, I'll just be glad if it got through and that's why you haven't heard much from me since.

As for if he really did get through, only time will tell.

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by Lady Daina
Call it what you want, ultimately I don't understand why people are so defensive about her listening to my post. Maybe it just goes to show that some people here have motives other than just giving good, sound advice. Either that or maybe they just lack people skills. Me, I try to stick to what works for each individual, because my intent is pure.

I do not think anyone was being defensive, Daina. I, for one, am really ecstatically pleased if your post got through. She asked for help, and she really needs help.

HarmNone likes whatever works!

[Halfsilver]

::trigger finger twitches::

I swear, this is so hard.

-grays/d

[Artha]

Grays, really, just don't bother, you're just making the both of you a target again.

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by Halfsilver
::trigger finger twitches::

I swear, this is so hard.

-grays/d

::HarmNone grins at grays::

I can imagine it is very difficult, hon. But, you are doing what is best. Really you are. :)

HarmNone understands where you are coming from, grays

[GS4Gurl]

Originally posted by Halfsilver
::trigger finger twitches::

I swear, this is so hard.

-grays/d

Hang in there!!

I hope at least my post was a tiny bit helpful.

[Halfsilver]

Dude...fuck it

You all are (with a very few exceptions. (thanks CT, Harmnone and strangely enough, Weedmage)) the most condescending, stuck up group of mother fuckers that I've ever had the displeasure to associate with.

I seriously hope you all are god damned flawless in every aspect after the ripping you gave Atheana in this thread.

Somehow, though....I totally doubt that. :rolleyes:

-grays/d (appreciates reason; fed up with inane flaming)

Edited: thanks, artha...your little jab pushed me the tiny distance that I needed.




[Edited on 9-26-2003 by Halfsilver]

[Bobmuhthol]

I am flawless.

[Artha]

No, you're a moron.

There's a difference.

[GS4Gurl]

Bob has seksy penguins.

[Weedmage Princess]

Graysalin, Adhara wasn't rude or offensive, either.

[StrayRogue]

Originally posted by Artha

For one, I think you need to be able to atleast write correctly, with capitalization, grammar and spelling, before you even try teaching such things to others.

This was the first post. I've seen stray make second posts lots of times, even to people with bad grammar and spelling. This, however, was the only one where he criticized grammar and spelling.

Now, I know I'm probably going to read 'She was asking for advice, so she had it coming'. However, it's really not necessary. I do try to type correctly online, but not all the time. If anyone ever needs to IM me, you'll find I hardly ever use capitals. Critiquing grammar simply is not needed, especially if you're doing it in a mean way.

If she isn't smart enough to post intelligently, or just too lazy, as she said, then that is one thing totally going against her, especially when it comes to teacher training. Being lazy just speaks volumes.

[CrystalTears]

You're right, we're not perfect, least of all yours truly. Lots of people know that I'm my own worst critique and am terribly hard on myself. Being an only child, my mother made sure to not bring me up as a brat or spoiled child since she couldn't afford to let me be. I hardly ever got my own way.

With that said, when I was Atheana's age and did manage to have tantrums (which were rare) like that because life wasn't going my way, I didn't get advice. I didn't get milk and cookies and a caress on the cheek with a chat about the facts of life. I got slapped in the face to calm down, sat down, lectured, and punished for my arrogance. "Grow up" and "welcome to the real world" were terms I could have tattooed on my forearm since I had heard it so much.

So yes, perhaps I may have come across as a bit harsh, even though I really don't feel I did. However in all my years of being my rebellious self, not once did I tell people who had advice for me to shut the hell up and stop being mean when I had gone to them specifically for the advice I was seeking. Even though I didn't like what was said, I listened, retained, and used what I could for the future. I respected people who had more wisdom and experience in issues than I did, ergo why I went to them in the first place. Her telling me to go away, shut up, ignore her and stop being "mean" was my own version of her slapping me.

I'm very in tune with my emotions. I speak from my heart and soul rather than my head sometimes. I'm very passionate in the way I present myself. It's keeping me from things I want to achieve and I do need to work on it. And I take criticism with pride because I know it's only for my own good. So when I see someone just like myself, I tend to be sympathetic and try to help. I'm stubborn when it comes to helping because I want them to eventually say "Oooh! I get it!" whether it be from me or elsewhere. Just for them to not take criticism as some sort of personal attack that is strictly being done to hurt and abuse.

There, more rambling and information than anyone really wanted from me. I just wanted to explain myself a bit.

[StrayRogue]

It seems they are both retarded. Though he has the pleasure of listening to her bitch and cry etc. They can both walk off a long bridge for all I could care. Please do.

[Ravenstorm]

Originally posted by Weedmage Princess
Graysalin, Adhara wasn't rude or offensive, either.

I freely admit I was. Condescending, anyway if not actually rude. Nor do I apologize for it. The 'you made me do it' defense just irritated me. It doesn't stand up in court either.

The majority of posts though, in this oh so lengthy thread, were not condescending. Mot everyone attempted to be helpful to start with at least. However, when one's advice is ignored in favor of justifications and rationalizations and yes, insults, people do grow tired and start firing back.

Another lesson in how the real world works for those willing to take it as such.

Raven

[Artha]

It doesn't stand up in court either.

Sure it does. Kill someone in self-defense, and you'll get off if it was legit.

[Ravenstorm]

Originally posted by Artha

It doesn't stand up in court either.

Sure it does. Kill someone in self-defense, and you'll get off if it was legit.

Not quite an analogous situation. In the future however I shall be more precise.

Raven

[Drew2]

Originally posted by Halfsilver

Edited: thanks, artha...your little jab pushed me the tiny distance that I needed.



No, your immaturity and lack of self-control gave you the extra push, jackass.

[Skirmisher]

Originally posted by Tayre

Originally posted by Halfsilver

Edited: thanks, artha...your little jab pushed me the tiny distance that I needed.



No, your immaturity and lack of self-control gave you the extra push, jackass.

Tayre, if you are going to demand self discipline from others, try practicing some yourself and just let it all drop?

[Drew2]

I didn't demand jack. I pointed out his inability to take responsibility for his actions.

Pots and Kettles are allowed to yell at eachother.

[Edited on 9-27-2003 by Tayre]

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by Tayre
I didn't demand jack. I pointed out his inability to take responsibility for his actions.

Pots and Kettles are allowed to yell at eachother.

[Edited on 9-27-2003 by Tayre]

If my pots and kettles begin to yell at one another, I am moving out, throwing in a match, and closing the damned door!

HarmNone has no communicating pots or kettles at this time :D

[Drew2]

Furthermore, I haven't pointed the finger at someone else when I'm in the wrong since I was 13. I may be annoying, a jackass, and immature, but I know when something is my fault or when I'm proven wrong.

Kthx.

Oh, and I never claim innocence. Unlike others. I'm too corrupted to be innocent.

Edit: OMG look at me. I turned the thread to be about me. WHO AM I???

a.)Atheana
b.)Atheana
c.)Atheana
d.)Graysalin

Yeah.. I probably shouldn't post that.

[Edited on 9-27-2003 by Tayre]

[Skirmisher]

As long as you are content with being a joke then more power to you.

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by Tayre
Edit: OMG look at me. I turned the thread to be about me. WHO AM I???

a.)Atheana
b.)Atheana
c.)Atheana
d.)Graysalin

Yeah.. I probably shouldn't post that.

[Edited on 9-27-2003 by Tayre]

I know! I know! It is e)! You are Tayre!

HarmNone wants her prize now :D

[Tendarian]

My 2 cents,

While in the minority im sure,i think its obvious if someone other than Atheana started this thread it wouldnt have been as vicious or cut throat. I dont see why it is shocking when a gang of people all inspect you and name every flaw they see that one would get defensive. She asked for advice on an exact situation and only after being berated several times for things other than what she was asking about did she find what she was looking for.

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by Tendarian
My 2 cents,

While in the minority im sure,i think its obvious if someone other than Atheana started this thread it wouldnt have been as vicious or cut throat. I dont see why it is shocking when a gang of people all inspect you and name every flaw they see that one would get defensive. She asked for advice on an exact situation and only after being berated several times for things other than what she was asking about did she find what she was looking for.

That is only partially true, Tendarian. She received the answer she was looking for on the first page of posting. I believe, in my second post, I suggested she talk to the teacher and find out what she might do to improve her chances of being chosen for a job the next time one came up. The flames escalated because of responses to perceived, and real, insults.

Again, I state: If you are looking for advice pick out the meat and ignore the gristle. If the flamers are ignored, they will cease to post for lack of interest.

HarmNone

[Tendarian]

You have a good point Harmnone and i wasnt referring to you as one of the ones being cruel. Even if you're mature ignoring gristle can be pretty hard though huh? Lots of other people here cant ignore it very well either or threads wouldnt be 12 pages in a day and a half :)

[CrystalTears]

People have and will start threads for advice about various things. And yes, people have and will be as blunt with them as they were with Atheana. The difference is that most people didn't berate the people offering the advice, and have a back-handed response to every reply.

You know, after all the advice, and as nice as everyone was depite Atheana's history, the least she could have done was say thank you. Some people may not have been fair in their style of speaking, but neither was she. No one is completely devoid of innocence in this thread.

And yes I'm guilty of continuing to argue with her because I'm a completely stubborn moron who likes to get her piece in, despite people's plea to let it go. I'll try not to do it in the future.

[Edited on 9/27/2003 by CrystalTears]

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by Tendarian
You have a good point Harmnone and i wasnt referring to you as one of the ones being cruel. Even if you're mature ignoring gristle can be pretty hard though huh? Lots of other people here cant ignore it very well either or threads wouldnt be 12 pages in a day and a half :)

Abso-damn-lutely! Hence, my repeated suggestions. ;)

HarmNone really tries

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by CrystalTears
People have and will start threads for advice about various things. And yes, people have and will be as blunt with them as they were with Atheana. The difference is that most people didn't berate the people offering the advice, and have a back-handed response to every reply.

You know, after all the advice, and as nice as everyone was depite Atheana's history, the least she could have done was say thank you. Some people may not been fair in their style of speaking, but neither was she. No one is completely devoid of innocence in this thread.

Too true, CT. I found myself getting very frustrated, and I really do not frustrate easily.

I am accustomed, as I said earlier in this thread, to working with adults in a business atmosphere. In that atmosphere, one says what one means. That is what is expected and preferred, both by those asking advice and those giving it when asked. I think that may be true of a number of the posters here.

Some people are going to get up-in-your-face. It is their style. One must learn to cope with these people, just as one copes with people who are not so confrontative. It is the way of the world. We must be able to pull out the worthwhile information while discarding that which is not useful to us, without getting emotional about it. If we do not, trouble will follow us.

HarmNone knows about trouble, too. :D

[Halfsilver]

You're right, Weedmage...Adhara offered some legitimate advice. You have my thanks, Adhara.

The sentiments expressed in my previous post still stand. Maybe even moreso now.

Again, thanks to those who posted reasonable advice, even if it doesn't feel like it was taken to heart.

-grays/d (believes that sometimes, stubborness is a good thing.)

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by Halfsilver
-grays/d (believes that sometimes, stubborness is a good thing.)

Heh. You reminded me of something my mother told me when I was but a stubborn child, and I passed on to my own children: "Stubborn children can develop into determined adults, if they live." This statement was usually accompanied by "the look". ;)

HarmNone is wandering Memory Lane

[Tendarian]

Maybe im just more accustomed to dealing with teens as i live with two teenage girls and have to be a guardian like influence. I think part of being an adult is NOT saying agitating things you really want to in the heat of the moment. And yes i also still fail with that but it is my goal.

[Tendarian]

"Stubborn children can develop into determined adults, if they live." This statement was usually accompanied by "the look". ;)

HarmNone is wandering Memory Lane

Ha! That is a great saying im going to start using.

[Adhara]

I think everything has been said on this topic. She got advice she's happy with.

I wish you the best Atheana. I believe in the positive side of people. I definitely see yours and all I can hope for is that, even through words that might sometimes cut deep, you see ours too.

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by Tendarian

"Stubborn children can develop into determined adults, if they live." This statement was usually accompanied by "the look". ;)

HarmNone is wandering Memory Lane

Ha! That is a great saying im going to start using.

Heh. Feel free! The statement, accompanied by "the look" always brought me into line pretty quickly. ;)

HarmNone remembers well

[Drew2]

Toys-R-Us brainwashed me.

I don't want to grow up kthx.

[longshot]

Wow. I just finished twelve pages of this. It was quite painful. I really wanted to be sure that I had everything down before I posted though.

Candi, these people here are frustrated with you for several reasons. One of them being that you chose to argue about the advice that you percieved was "rude", rather than listen to the advice that wasn't. The only person who you readily acknowledged was the one who called you sweet.

The other would be a refusal to accept any responsibility on your part.

You brought up the guy who wrote the thread with the topic of "Ceating". He accepted responsibility for his mistake. He didn't get angry or defensive about it. Also, he didn't say that he wanted to work in childcare!!

All of the blame has been assigned outward. It was the evil teacher's fault. If this teacher did not give you the job like she said she would, you have obviously done something to change her mind. The best thing to do, (and this has been said over, and over, and over) would be to talk to her in a mature manner and figure out what it is that SHE feels.

When you are listening, do just that, and listen. Do not bring up how you see it at all, because it does not matter. This is the woman who you need to impress. If she thinks your attitude about school is poor, it's important to figure out why. Then, address these issues. This is done by looking at yourself, and not by coming back at her with a bunch of reasons.

You should be asking, "What can I do so she doesn't see me this way. This is not who I am (which you've said over and over on these boards, right?)

By the way, you don't type "bad"... it would be an adverb, so it would be "badly". But, bad indicates good and evil, so you would actually be typing "poorly".

So try not to type so "poorly", and people here might have a little more respect. This is not a flame! You know that people here feel your immature, right? So, the best way for the people who post here to not veiw you in this way would be to take the time and post something that doesn't look like jibberish. You keep saying this is not the real you. Show us then!

Note that patterns are important. It takes more than two coherent thoughts to make up for a sustained peroid of haphazard writing.

You need to take responsibilty for things you do. That is why people here are saying grow up. All we know is what we see. The post where you introduced yourself (and by the way, Florida is capitalized) means very little to us, because we can only judge you by what we see here. We see someone who would ignore sound advice if that advice is not exactly what they wanted to hear.

What did you expect out of this thread? Were we supposed to agree that this teacher was truly evil, and list ways to put acid in their coffee, or get them in trouble with the board of education? This I'm really curious about.

Accept responsibility. If you've already been absent twice this year (I don't care about the reason... think how it looks to the other person!!) then it would show a continuing patter from last year. You would need to accept this fact, and work extra hard to show that you are fit for a job in the future.

And when you quit the previous job, how did you go about it? Did you give proper notice? Were you professional about it?

Something tells me based on the patterns of behavior that we see here, it is possible that this didn't happen.

I haven't flamed you. I'm challenging you to change. You ask why you get the responses you do here, and this is why.

This is the very long version of "Grow the fuck up":smilegrin:

edited to fix formatting

[Edited on 9-27-2003 by longshot]

[HarmNone]

::HarmNone gets up after rolling on the floor laughing, and grins at Longshot::

That is undoubtedly the longest version of GTFU I have ever read! :lol:

HarmNone's eyes are crossing

[Drew2]

He basically said everything I was thinking but if I said it I'd be told to STFU. Probably because I wouldn't be as... hmm.. not nice... what's the word... civil? ::shrugs::

Longshot, we may not like eachother very much but I do respect you. I recognize intelligence and experience when I see/hear it. Good post.

[CrystalTears]

Originally posted by Lady Daina
ps- HarmNone, the comment I made before about people seeming defensive about her taking my advice was because one individual has posted 2-3 times about how I 'sugar-coated' it. Once is fine, twice is pushing it, 3x says defensive to me. Anyway, I hope we can let this topic go.

Yep, that was me, that's okay. I'll answer it with someone else's post.


Originally posted by longshot
Candi, these people here are frustrated with you for several reasons. One of them being that you chose to argue about the advice that you percieved was "rude", rather than listen to the advice that wasn't. The only person who you readily acknowledged was the one who called you sweet.

As HarmNone said, I'm used to speaking to people who are a tad bit more mature who can take criticism gracefully. I fully admit that I don't take people yelling at me and throwing a tantrum too well and pretty much either shut down completely or yell back. I chose the latter and it was the wrong approach.

It was never about proving I'm right. I'm usually not and I don't pitch a fit when I'm proven wrong. I just need to stop responding to anything Atheana related. Responses and temperments like that are why I choose not to have children for a long time because I can't deal with insubordination.

[Jenisi]

And they wondered why I made the Atheana thread ;p

Candi, The advice given here is exactly how it's going to be anywhere you go. In the 'real world' perhaps you get alot of sugar coated responces because the people that know you, know if you say anything critical you will blow up on them. Maybe this is why you think everyting is supposed to be nice and sweet?

I am a defensive person by nature like you are Candi. But I have the ability to control it. A few years ago, I was a different person then I am now. I did ALOT of growing up in about 2 1/2-3 years time. My situations were alot more unique then the typical person of my age. I think as she grows up, she will also learn the ability to control her feelings as well.

Guys, she may not seem to let this sink in now, but it does have an affect on her. Hopefully she will see that as harsh as these responces have been, no one would have posted if they didn't care. I have never, ever been fond of Candi or Atheana because of her blanet show of immaturity. It just takes time for people to grow up so let's hope that's what'll happen with her.

[Edited on 9-27-2003 by Jenisi]

[GS4Gurl]

Longshot, that was an excellent post.

Personally, when regarding Atheana I take into the realization that she is sensitive. There are lots of people who are just sensitive and need to be treated with a little more ... whats the word.. I guess, nicer. Anyway, it doesn't necessarily mean that they are immature. They've just been brought up a certain way. Some really can't help the way they respond because they don't really KNOW how to. Some people just need more time to learn. Does that make any sense?

So should people walk on eggshells around these people. No, certainly not. Just take into consideration that everyone is different and just cannot handle certain things. In time they will learn.

In my post I chose to stay with the subject and not turn it into a spelling or grammar lecture. Sure, its easier to understand someones post if they use proper usage and spelling. Just simply state that, instead of, "hey you moronic fuckoff learn how to spell!" Yeah, its just easier to do the latter instead of simply state, "Atheana, perhaps people will understand what you are saying if you make it easier to read."

No, I am not trying to defend her or make excuses for her. There are just things people need to think about before going off on someone.

Honestly, if I were Atheana, I would not post here at all. Unless, I made sure every dot and syllable were perfect to a "T". Because, people are just too critical and they pounce if you appear weak to them. The flamers LIKE to see the drama of her "wig out". Once she's finally "wiggedout" then they mark a score on their chart for the day. I'll admit It seems Atheana just asks for it. This time though, she came in and simply wanted an opinion about her problem.

She posts her problem. The very first response was what? Was it advice about her teacher? No it was an attack on her spelling. Was he right about what he said? Yes. Was it on topic and an answer to Atheana's question? No. In fact, the first eight posts didn't even get to the real subject at hand. All the grammar attacks put her into defensive mode, naturally so her next several responses were highly defensive because of that reason. When she was FINALLY given some advice that was on topic, she was too pissed off and frustrated to listen. Or at least thats what I am seeing. I went back to the beginning of the thread to see when the flaming started. The FIRST response. BAM.

Oh well, though. She should know better. These boards you usually get the cold hard truth even if it's not on topic. It ever rarely stays on topic. So yeah, she should keep that in mind like we should keep in mind how people can or cannot handle things, not just her.

[Edited on 9-27-2003 by GS4Gurl]

[Methais]

<<They cannot have school + work for more then 12 hours per day if under 18.. if under 16 its even less.>>

It's just a shame that schools are allowed to take advantage of the loophole called HOMEWORK which can turn a 7 hour school day into a 12-15 hour school day.

As for your problem Atheana, I'd recommend you wait outside by your teacher's car with a baseball bad and club her in the head repeatedly with it when she arrives.

[StrayRogue]

Again, I feel it does matter, how she presents herself I mean. As I've said enough times, if she is too lazy to present herself well here, how am I to know she doesn't do the same in front of her teachers?

That was just the start of it too. From the evidence in her post, I had not one single doubt in my mind she did not deserve that job. Not one doubt. She lacks maturity, and is my mind, is very similar to a spoilt child who hasn't got her way.

While I agree there are some with delicate tempraments (something any evil child at a school would take advantage of), I am not going to change myself simply so I can accomodate her. This is the real world. It is not a candy coated life of bunnies. It is harsh and real and she has yet to learn this fact. As I also said I could have been MUCH, MUCH worse.

Yeah, I hope they both don't post here again. May they live happily in the little bubble they have fashioned for themselves, and I pray they do NOT reproduce.

[Edited on 27-9-03 by StrayRogue]

[Halfsilver]

Strayrogue, you little pissant backstabber...

Firstly, before you go and critisize someone about their grammer, you should take a look at your own posts. You just barely make sense in several sentences.

Secondly, don't act all cordial and nice to me while I'm talking to you outside of this BBS if you are going to be a dick here.

plzthx

-grays/d

PS. You'll be pleased to learn that we plan to have two or three children one day...a nice BIG family....and fuck if I'll ever let them become as snooty and self-righteous as the lot of you.

[StrayRogue]

I am not talking to you outside these boards DICK. And YOU asked ME for help.

And its not me wanting to teach children to fucking speak, read and write IS IT?

As for your little trailer park family, I am 100% not suprised.

[Halfsilver]

Would you like me to post the logs, big guy?

:?:

[StrayRogue]

Of you asking for my help? Go ahead, I have the U2U as well if you want. As for chatting, I haven't spoken to you in a good few days, since I resent your little trainer sheet.

[StrayRogue]

From: Halfsilver
To: StrayRogue
Sent: 6-9-03 at 06:21 AM
Message: Hey hey.

If you have any idea for a decent TP for the Ranger archer...please please please let me know.

I've reallocated grays 3 full times and have come up with a really low AS, inability to aim or even hide decently and drastically reduced magic ability.

-grays

[Halfsilver]

<< Secondly, don't act all cordial and nice to me while I'm talking to you outside of this BBS if you are going to be a dick here. >>

I'll repeat what I just said, you fucking two-faced bitch.

[StrayRogue]

Dick, you IM'd me. This thread wasn't even about you, but instead your slutty concubine.

[Halfsilver]

BTW....

From: StrayRogue
To: Halfsilver
Sent: 8-17-2003 at 08:47 PM
Message: quote:
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i have no idea what you're talking about, but if i did that stuff i would expect you not to like me.

my password has been changed and no one will be using my account anymore. Please disregard anything that happened to you in the past from my character.

-grays
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Thats the decent thing to do, and I agree. I consider the matter dead, and shall treat you here, and in game, accordingly. Thankyou.

[Halfsilver]

Not only have I NOT done anything wrong to you, but I've actually been DECENT to you.

I know peer pressure is hard to deal with, especially on PC... :rolleyes:

-grays/d

[CrystalTears]

Guys, knock it off.

[StrayRogue]

Yes, nice fake U2U, you fucking loser.

1, no one knows my password.
2, I am not dumb enough to give out my password.
3, You apologized to me, which I commended.
4, This wasn't and isn't about you. I gave MY opinion. It is not my fault that you are such a bitch you can't take it.

[StrayRogue]

And what the fuck have I done to you? Beyond plan the entire life span of your character? Or help when I could have told you to shove it?

[Halfsilver]

OMG....Fake?! and I'm the loser?

bwahahaha!

yeah, I'm done...sorry, CT.

-grays/d

[Jenisi]

Peer pressure? ROFL

[Halfsilver]

Yeah...it's called sarcasm, Jenisi.

[GSLeloo]

We don't always have to turn everything into a fight... I'm beginning to think there should be one section just called Flames... and all of this stays on that section.

[Adhara]

Flames in the flames section or flames in the off-topic, flames are flames so what's the difference?

[GSLeloo]

Containment?

[Adhara]

I'd think you'd be disappointed Leloo. Fire could never be contained. When there's fire in the house, all you can do is damage control.

[GSLeloo]

I actually don't really mind flaming that much... it just gets annoying when every single topic gets becomes flaming.

[Vesi]

I probably shouldn't post, but after reading fourteen pages, I feel I at least have a right to say something!

One question (and yes this is from way back) is that you said you'd been in this teacher's class longer than someone that got the job. Can you qualify that statement please? (since it confused me) Is it someone that transferred in? Is this a class that lasts more than one year? Like I said, I didn't understand that statement.

Another thing is that you keep saying you're 'not like this in real life' and when you're upset 'you don't care about punctuation and grammar'. Could it be that when you're upset in real life, you tend to have this same knee-jerk reaction? Maybe the teacher noticed that you don't handle stess, emergency or unexpected situations very well and is waiting to see when you can. No idea.

Originally, I had tons more to say, but this thread is really played out. I just wanted to add those two things and to also say you've been given great advice on how to react to your teacher. I would say try it. Can't hurt one bit. Good luck.

Vesi

[AnticorRifling]

We should really just focus on the point that was stated earlier. Let me rephrase it:

Anticor is right, do what he said and you can't go wrong.

/rephrasing

[GS4Gurl]

Noooo Anticor is SUPER right.

[Vesi]

Originally posted by GS4Gurl
Noooo Anticor is SUPER right.

He is just super all the way around!

<smiles innocently>

Vesi

[Trinitis]

Originally posted by ElvenRangeress
Working 9 hours a day and getting home at 12/1am really is a hard thing to do, and her rubbing that in my face that I quit wasn't really professional now was it? I mean the point of this thread in the first place is for people to give me advice on how to handle situations, not why the teacher did it. All I really asked for. But if your going to answer both, its really the fact that the teacher said in the first place she'd get me the job, then chose the girl right next to me who does even worst in school.


Why don't you rename the thread then? A few different people have given you a few different views of advice, and you keep saying they are being mean and not helping. From what I see, you should rename the thread to something like :

Come hear me complain about something, then try to give me advice, untill someone says something I want to hear and I can stop.

Thats all your doing anyways. If anyone gives any hint that you may have done something wrong, you start posting about how they are mean to you, and doing no good for the thread ::shrug:: rename it please.

-Adredrin

[Skirmisher]

Originally posted by StrayRogue
Dick, you IM'd me. This thread wasn't even about you, but instead your slutty concubine.

Stray, you strike me as someone who seems intelligent and well able to debate an issue without resorting to insults and derision.

Please do not drag down yourself and the board in general with meaningless personal insults when you become frustrated with someone.

If you have an issue with Atheana's ability to take or not take advice then please address that, do not make weak insults like the one above?

[StrayRogue]

Sorry mate, they just REALLY get to me at times. Ignorance is bliss I guess...

[ElvenRangeress]

Originally posted by LordAdredrin

Originally posted by ElvenRangeress
Working 9 hours a day and getting home at 12/1am really is a hard thing to do, and her rubbing that in my face that I quit wasn't really professional now was it? I mean the point of this thread in the first place is for people to give me advice on how to handle situations, not why the teacher did it. All I really asked for. But if your going to answer both, its really the fact that the teacher said in the first place she'd get me the job, then chose the girl right next to me who does even worst in school.


Why don't you rename the thread then? A few different people have given you a few different views of advice, and you keep saying they are being mean and not helping. From what I see, you should rename the thread to something like :

Come hear me complain about something, then try to give me advice, untill someone says something I want to hear and I can stop.

Thats all your doing anyways. If anyone gives any hint that you may have done something wrong, you start posting about how they are mean to you, and doing no good for the thread ::shrug:: rename it please.

-Adredrin


Allow me to say a few things, dear.
I asked for advice on one thing, and everyone (except for a few people) gave me advice on everything but what I asked for.

Heres what I asked: I need advice on how to react to situations such as this in the future, because I know that getting upset and walking out was seriously an immature/unprofessional way to go about it.

And what did I get advice on?: Your immature, you don't spell good, you should talk to your teacher as soon as possible and see why she didn't pick you, and etc etc

This is NOT the advice I asked for, though I am very appreciative that these people gave me advice regardless of what I asked for, but they shouldn't get upset at me because I'm confused on what they are talking about. Then they say, I can't get through to the girl, I just can't! Thats not true, I read what you are typing, and I thank you for all you have done for me. But how am I suppose to take advice on something I'm not asking for right now? I know what my weaknesses are, and I basically know why she didn't pick me. But I got the advice I needed (on what I actually asked for) by two people, so I am done here. Thank you all for your help.

[StrayRogue]

Didn't you say you "Wouldn't" post here again?

[ElvenRangeress]

I felt it was needed this time. I want the people who gave me advice to know I appreciated it. Thats the *real me* people asked for, so now I'm showing you guys Candi, not the misunderstood lazy typist!

[Edited on 9-28-2003 by ElvenRangeress]

[DCSL]

Wow, this thread is still going...? I'm amazed and horrified.

[Skirmisher]

Don't be horrified.

Feel the love.:bouncy:

[ElvenRangeress]

I love ya man! *giggles madly*

[longshot]

Originally posted by ElvenRangeress

Allow me to say a few things, dear.
I asked for advice on one thing, and everyone (except for a few people) gave me advice on everything but what I asked for.

Heres what I asked: I need advice on how to react to situations such as this in the future, because I know that getting upset and walking out was seriously an immature/unprofessional way to go about it.

And what did I get advice on?: Your immature, you don't spell good, you should talk to your teacher as soon as possible and see why she didn't pick you, and etc etc

This is NOT the advice I asked for, though I am very appreciative that these people gave me advice regardless of what I asked for, but they shouldn't get upset at me because I'm confused on what they are talking about. Then they say, I can't get through to the girl, I just can't! Thats not true, I read what you are typing, and I thank you for all you have done for me. But how am I suppose to take advice on something I'm not asking for right now? I know what my weaknesses are, and I basically know why she didn't pick me. But I got the advice I needed (on what I actually asked for) by two people, so I am done here. Thank you all for your help. ]

I asked for advice on one thing, and everyone (except for a few people) gave me advice on everything but what I asked for

I could be wrong, but is that not a preposition? Don't end sentences with those. Bad!

Heres would be here's, as in here is.

Heres what I asked:
Well, while we're at it, a colon should not be used after a verb. You could say, "I asked as follows:" But, you knew that, right?

By the way, after all that, the colon is not followed by the question asked. Go figure?!?

Your immature, you don't spell good, you should talk to your teacher as soon as possible and see why she didn't pick you, and etc etc

It's "you're" immature. As in you are immature. Also, you don't spell "well", not "good". At least you got the order of "etc." right though. Step by step, right?

Thats not true,
Again, not "Thats", but "That's", as in that is...

I know what my weaknesses are, and I basically know why she didn't pick me.

I'm going out on a limb, and saying that you "basically" don't know why. Which is why you started the thread.

Just as long as you're showing us the "real you", I figure you should have another reason of why people on this board have trouble respecting what you say.

The problem you had was far outside the scope of what you thought it was, hence the nature of the advice given.

Just because it was not the advice you were expecting does not mean it was not good advice!

My favorite part of the whole experience, is just when you might realize this....

Just when you might actually achieve some personal growth...

You're knight in shitting armor runs and tells you not to listen to anyone.

Nice fucking work, Halfsilver.

Unless you plan on getting in a knife fight with everyone in your trailer park everytime your woman opens her mouth, I suggest you learn to shut your mouth and let her grow up.

You two will run a sweet daycare out of your trailer. I can feel it!



edited to fix formatting.

[Edited on 9-29-2003 by longshot]

[Halfsilver]

<<Inane, stupid shit and pointless flaming>> posted by longshot.

This thread has been off topic since the third or fourth post. With several exceptions, as I said earlier.

Longshot, man...you have room to lecture people on maturity when you end your post like this

<<You two will run a sweet daycare out of your trailer. I can feel it!>>

Look, moron...we live in an APARTMENT. (So yours and Strayrogues seeming obsession with trailers must be based on some personal issue.) Seeing as how we're pretty young, and still attending school...between student loans, groceries, utilities, rent, car payments...I'd say we're doing damned well for ourselves.

SO do yourself a favor...grow a brain or grow up or whatever the fuck it is you PC snots like to say. Plzthx.

-grays/d

[CrystalTears]

Halfsilver, just let it die away. Don't explain your life to anyone who has no reason to know it. If people pass judgements, that's their problem not yours. As long as you know the truth and are happy with the way you live your life, that should be enough. Don't worry anymore. :)

By the way, it doesn't make much sense to make fun of people that post on the PC when you're still one of them. ;)

[Halfsilver]

I wasn't referring to everyone, CT.

Most of you guys are decent people.

Just...bleh...some people.

You're right, though...I feel stupid now for even acknowledging that post. Just bringing the dregs back to the top.

-grays/d:thumbsdown:

[Tsa`ah]

Originally posted by Halfsilver
You're right, though...I feel stupid now for even acknowledging that post. Just bringing the dregs back to the top.

You're learning. :spin:

[longshot]

Originally posted by Halfsilver
<<Inane, stupid shit and pointless flaming>> posted by longshot.

This thread has been off topic since the third or fourth post. With several exceptions, as I said earlier.

Longshot, man...you have room to lecture people on maturity when you end your post like this

<<You two will run a sweet daycare out of your trailer. I can feel it!>>

Look, moron...we live in an APARTMENT. (So yours and Strayrogues seeming obsession with trailers must be based on some personal issue.) Seeing as how we're pretty young, and still attending school...between student loans, groceries, utilities, rent, car payments...I'd say we're doing damned well for ourselves.

SO do yourself a favor...grow a brain or grow up or whatever the fuck it is you PC snots like to say. Plzthx.

-grays/d

I apologize for the final four lines of my last post.

Just because I understand you are bound for a trailer and you don't quite understand that you are does not give me the right to rub it in your face. And, there are very nice people who live in trailers. So again, I'm sorry for the last four lines of my post.

The rest of the post I'm not.

I simply pointed out that despite your woman's pledge that she would show us her "real self" and not type "bad", her command of the English language is about as good as the Albanian cook at McDonalds.

You might find this inane, but I feel you have a tendency just to call people assholes that point out the truth.

So now here's the decision you have to make.

Can you let it stand that I said your woman communicates like a crack-whore, and be man enough just to let this die, knowing it's true?

Or are you going to spout off again about what an asshole I am, while at the same time bringing this little folder to the top once again for everyone to see what an assclown you are?

The choice is yours!