Biden drops out

[drumpel]

Hahaha.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/joe-biden-drops-2024-race-175550815.html

Dems probably have to deal with Harris now. Biden drops out and folks are not liking him. Harris may be the one to take his place and people like her even less. What a joke.

[~Rocktar~]

Yeah, the rona got another one, supposedly. And no endorsement of the proper garden tool heyena.

I wonder how many of the Leftist whiners have been dreading this since they figured out the jig was up after the debate?

OH and here is another angle.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/president-joe-biden-drops-2024-presidential-race-rcna159867

[Tgo01]

LOL

[Tgo01]

Democrats: <insert generic Democrat> will be the best president ever!

Has any president in US history been so thoroughly useless that their own party told them not to run for re-election? Or was Biden so fucking bad that he made history?

[Methais]

In before Seran says that Kamala is the best VP in history and that he can't think of anyone better to replace Biden who he also thinks is the best president in history.

Also in before ClydeR makes a thread for this despite 2 already existing.

[Suppressed Poet]

:rofl:

Now Democrats get what they always wanted, to nominate a candidate that was never selected by the people. Also, you must vote for their candidate to save democracy.

[ClydeR]

Trump is the oldest person ever nominated for the Presidency and one of the oldest still living Baby Boomers. Even after the luckiest week I can remember any presidential candidate ever having, he is barely leading in the polls against a candidate in obvious cognitive decline. His lucky week is over. Welcome to the beginning of the 2024 election.

[Tgo01]

lol Clyder

[Suppressed Poet]

lol @ ClydeR

[Methais]

Trump is the oldest person ever nominated for the Presidency and one of the oldest still living Baby Boomers. Even after the luckiest week I can remember any presidential candidate ever having, he is barely leading in the polls against a candidate in obvious cognitive decline. His lucky week is over. Welcome to the beginning of the 2024 election.

This might be the hardest cope I've ever seen :rofl:

[SHAFT]

The prosecutor vs the felon! Seems easy to call but when you’re dealing with a cult and mental illness… yikes!

[Neveragain]

The prosecutor vs the felon! Seems easy to call but when you’re dealing with a cult and mental illness… yikes!

Shaft got his DNC download.


How Kamala Harris Fought to Keep Nonviolent Prisoners Locked Up. As California attorney general, she spent years subverting a 2011 Supreme Court ruling requiring the state to reduce its prison population. The overseeing judicial panel nearly found the state in contempt of court.

Enjoy supporting a political party that didn't let you vote for a candidate in the primaries.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/420/392/8ba.gif

[Tgo01]

The prosecutor vs the felon! Seems easy to call but when you’re dealing with a cult and mental illness… yikes!

lol at Shaft. Cope harder.

Leftists: Fuck the police!
Also Leftists: Vote for the police!

[Parkbandit]

So far it's a tie between cLyDeR and Shaftme for the most retarded post in this thread.

Where's sErAn at?

[Suppressed Poet]

The prosecutor vs the felon! Seems easy to call but when you’re dealing with a cult and mental illness… yikes!

Context:

Felon = Temporarily found guilty of crimes his political opponents can’t even articulate by a kangaroo court.

Prosecutor = Convicted disproportionately black men to lengthy prison sentences just for smoking that Indonesia.

Kamala has the worst approval ratings in the history of approval ratings. She is so unpopular that she is likely to preform slightly worse in the general election to even the current vegetative President. Y’all need to do better.

[Suppressed Poet]

The Democrats DEI hire for President.

https://media4.giphy.com/media/eJLvKAHS1PtDSiyRCY/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b95255n9m7fbt2i7jo7dy6juvarrhs3k vkyrtt5jcm7u&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

[Anebriated]

Odd to me that his letter stating his intent was not written on official stationary.

[Neveragain]

The Democrats DEI hire for President.

https://media4.giphy.com/media/eJLvKAHS1PtDSiyRCY/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b95255n9m7fbt2i7jo7dy6juvarrhs3k vkyrtt5jcm7u&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

Russiagate, Jan. 2017 riots, BLM riots, show trials, Palestine riots, assassination attempt and now a coup.

https://notesfromachair.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/tenor-1.gif?w=584

[Tgo01]

I'm loving watching all of the members of the press and Hollywood elite douche bags say shit like "I love Joe Biden! Best president ever! He has accomplished so much!" and then the very next sentence "I support Kamala Harriss 100%!"

Wait...what? If Biden is so great, why are you okay with the Democrats essentially forcing him to drop out of the race so that the party elites can decide who should replace him without the voters having a single say?

Doesn't sound very democratic to me.

[Neveragain]

I'm loving watching all of the members of the press and Hollywood elite douche bags say shit like "I love Joe Biden! Best president ever! He has accomplished so much!" and then the very next sentence "I support Kamala Harriss 100%!"

Wait...what? If Biden is so great, why are you okay with the Democrats essentially forcing him to drop out of the race so that the party elites can decide who should replace him without the voters having a single say?

Doesn't sound very democratic to me.

Any chance there's a 3 month free trial code thing going on for Gemstone at the moment?

LNET would totally be worth the watch.

https://y.yarn.co/4bcdcd19-c3d0-47f7-817e-c882b22d5bdc_text.gif

[Tgo01]

Any chance there's a 3 month free trial code thing going on for Gemstone at the moment?

LNET would totally be worth the watch.

https://y.yarn.co/4bcdcd19-c3d0-47f7-817e-c882b22d5bdc_text.gif

Could always create a F2P character if you want to watch the shit fest going on in LNet.

[Suppressed Poet]

I'm loving watching all of the members of the press and Hollywood elite douche bags say shit like "I love Joe Biden! Best president ever! He has accomplished so much!" and then the very next sentence "I support Kamala Harriss 100%!"

Wait...what? If Biden is so great, why are you okay with the Democrats essentially forcing him to drop out of the race so that the party elites can decide who should replace him without the voters having a single say?

Doesn't sound very democratic to me.

I love even more all the retard leftists saying how tough it must have been for Biden to come to this decision.

So you believe Biden came to this decision on his own free will? We’re back to believing in fairytales that Biden isn’t a sick old man suffering from dementia and has handlers to help with his most basic of human functions? The Democrat elite overlords told Biden you’re not getting your special treat on National Ice Cream Day unless you sign this Joey. That’s how it went down. Get the fuck outta of here with that “Biden made a conscious selfless decision to step aside for the love of his country” BS.

[~Rocktar~]

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/452346291_3682521355330672_6253424386014617631_n.j pg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=u4Xqe3nlsxcQ7kNvgEN8NWK&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&oh=00_AYA4kn-bBott7uhPNcYTTARpuZsoHrw0XpiMpY7IxZT1bg&oe=66A3730F

[Shaps]

Said it awhile back - They'll give Biden (now Harris) roughly 90 million votes.

81 vs 74 last time, and they were scrambling.

They know it will be larger than 74 this time for Trump, just not by how much.. so they'll have to compensate.

And yes... Democrat voters should be pissed off that they don't get to vote on their choice for President, but they are fucking morons... so yea...

[Methais]

So far it's a tie between cLyDeR and Shaftme for the most retarded post in this thread.

Where's sErAn at?

Here he is:

https://x.com/ImMeme0/status/1815221331153105341

[drumpel]

Here he is:

https://x.com/ImMeme0/status/1815221331153105341

That's the kind of reaction I used to get out of my kids when they were really upset at the age of 4/5/6.....holy crap. That's just pathetically sad. That guy needs some serious help if he thinks Biden was the answer to his prayers.

[Parkbandit]

I'm loving watching all of the members of the press and Hollywood elite douche bags say shit like "I love Joe Biden! Best president ever! He has accomplished so much!" and then the very next sentence "I support Kamala Harriss 100%!"

Wait...what? If Biden is so great, why are you okay with the Democrats essentially forcing him to drop out of the race so that the party elites can decide who should replace him without the voters having a single say?

Doesn't sound very democratic to me.

"OMG HE IS SO BRAVE AND PATRIOTIC!"

I had to change the channel from MSNBC yesterday.. first when I saw Rachel Maddow without makeup... and then later when all they were saying is how great Biden was to step down.

Bro.... it was after a week of blackmail and payoffs. Question should be: How many millions did it take for Biden to step down.. or did they have dirt on him and threatened to release it if he didn't step down.

Probably both.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Since Biden is dropping out, don't they have to redo primaries, or are we just going to leave the decision to the political elite? I reading things that note you cannot change the primary nominee name unless he's dead or 25'd. Soooooo, odds on him being dead just went up?

[ClydeR]

I reading things that note you cannot change the primary nominee name unless he's dead or 25'd.

Not sure what you're reading, but until the convention delegates vote there will be no nominee to change.

[Suppressed Poet]

Since Biden is dropping out, don't they have to redo primaries, or are we just going to leave the decision to the political elite? I reading things that note you cannot change the primary nominee name unless he's dead or 25'd. Soooooo, odds on him being dead just went up?

There is no redo of primaries, at least not official ones. This is unprecedented as far as I know. Even if they wanted to, there isn’t enough time between now and the DNC when they must secure their nominee. The decision is with the delegates.

It baffles me that more Democrats are not upset by the fact elites in their party know what’s best for the rest and making the decision on their candidate. Even more baffling if I hear many Democrats justify this by saying it is what’s necessary to “save democracy”. The irony…

[ClydeR]

HuffPost
Donald Trump Fumes Over Biden Leaving Race In Unhinged Late Night Rant: 'It's Not Over!'

More... (https://news.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-fumes-over-biden-050213864.html)


Trump went on to claim that Biden, who continues to get treated for COVID-19 after testing positive on Wednesday, “never had” the disease.

The former president was once hospitalized with COVID-19 and downplayed it after hundreds of thousands of Americans died during his White House term.

“He is a threat to Democracy!” Trump declared in the post.

The GOP nominee continued his rant by pushing another conspiracy theory about the president, “Who is running our Country right now? It’s not Crooked Joe, he has no idea where he is. If he can’t run for office, he can’t run our Country!!!”



That's a lot of exclamation points. Harris' entry into the race shook up Trump more than I expected.

[Tgo01]

lol

Watching Clyder meltdown in real time is awesome. Just wish Seran were here to laugh at as well.

[Neveragain]

There is no redo of primaries, at least not official ones. This is unprecedented as far as I know. Even if they wanted to, there isn’t enough time between now and the DNC when they must secure their nominee. The decision is with the delegates.

It baffles me that more Democrats are not upset by the fact elites in their party know what’s best for the rest and making the decision on their candidate. Even more baffling if I hear many Democrats justify this by saying it is what’s necessary to “save democracy”. The irony…

The American voter selected Joe as the Democrat nominee, it's not "For the party, by the party."

There are two exceptions, Joe dies before the election or resignation. The American voter was betrayed by the media and their elected officials that knew and lied about Joe's mental capacities, the Democrat party legally have no other choice but to stay with their voted candidate or remove him from office. Any other option is a coup.

If they choose coup, the states have legal grounds to secede from the union. People either stand up now or we go full 1984 (for they party, by the party)

[Neveragain]

lol

Watching Clyder meltdown in real time is awesome. Just wish Seran were here to laugh at as well.

Turns out Seran is smarter than Clyder.

[Suppressed Poet]

That's a lot of exclamation points. Harris' entry into the race shook up Trump more than I expected.

I’m sure Trump is just trembling in fear over the wildly popular elite-anointed DEI replacement candidate. Nobody could have predicted this was going to happen… :rofl:

[Anebriated]

Dems realized Biden was near full term so they aborted him

[Suppressed Poet]

Sad thing is, the Democrats could have had RFK Jr. as their nominee and likely would go on to win this election by a wide margin. He got pushed out of the party a year ago for criticizing Biden’s policies and speaking the truth about his cognitive decline. Imagine what could have been if the Dem elites, who are of course known to be so tolerant of diverse opinions, had taken seriously a challenge to Biden’s nomination through a real primary. Instead, RFK Jr. running as a third party candidate all but solidifies with absolute certainty a Trump victory no matter who the delegates decide to nominate.

[Suppressed Poet]

Turns out Seran is smarter than Clyder.

I wouldn’t go quite that far.

Word on the street is someone told Seran that the PC is actually a subreddit community of white supremacist Neo-Nazis. Seran of course believed this someone.

[Tgo01]

Mark Ruffalo on X in regards to Biden dropping out:


Okay everybody, now we have our marching orders and time to hit the trail running. No to Trump/Vance. No to the right-wing Christian religious takeover of our nation. Nothing wrong with Christianity; just shouldn’t be running a nation birthed from freedom of religion.

I wish more Democrats were honest like him.

None of this "Oh the best president ever!"

Or "We have to save democracy!"

Or "Democrats care about gays!"

Just straight up "The Democrats gave me my marching orders."

Seems Democrat voters forgot that politicians are supposed to be afraid of the voters; afraid that the voters won't vote for them and they will be out of a job.

Instead Democrat voters seem to be afraid of Democrat politicians; "I better be a good boy or my politicians might kick me out of the club!"

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Not sure what you're reading, but until the convention delegates vote there will be no nominee to change.

So all the delegates will now vote for the second most popular democrat presidential candidate, otherwise... the aren't really voting/representing the will of the people.

[Suppressed Poet]

So all the delegates will now vote for the second most popular democrat presidential candidate, otherwise... the aren't really voting/representing the will of the people.

Dean Phillips!

Turns out he really was playing 4D chess. :rofl:

[Neveragain]

Dean Phillips!

Obviously Kamala, who never won a single delegate, is the will of the people.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/4GPPa716ijKOLsSG9s/200w.gif?cid=6c09b9521n3kkqakz9ye4fxernb2fs6552qaa fabgsqpnp36&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200w.gif&ct=g

[Methais]

That's a lot of exclamation points. Harris' entry into the race shook up Trump more than I expected.

Try posting the rest and stop being an overgrown amoeba.

https://i.imgur.com/rI3lAOh.png (https://news.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-fumes-over-biden-050213864.html)



Donald Trump continued to disregard political unity talk as he ranted about President Joe Biden late Sunday following his withdrawal from the 2024 race.

The former president took to his Truth Social platform to peddle conspiracy theories and hurl insults at Biden.

“It’s not over! Tomorrow Crooked Joe Biden’s going to wake up and forget that he dropped out of the race today!” wrote Trump, who has faced questions surrounding his mental fitness.

Trump went on to claim that Biden, who continues to get treated for COVID-19 after testing positive on Wednesday, “never had” the disease.

The former president was once hospitalized with COVID-19 and downplayed it after hundreds of thousands of Americans died during his White House term.

“He is a threat to Democracy!” Trump declared in the post.

The GOP nominee continued his rant by pushing another conspiracy theory about the president, “Who is running our Country right now? It’s not Crooked Joe, he has no idea where he is. If he can’t run for office, he can’t run our Country!!!”

Trump’s meltdown arrived hours after Biden’s historic announcement and endorsement of Vice President Kamala Harris, a move that’s already sparked attacks from Republicans including at least one who compared it to a “coup.”

The Trump campaign released a statement earlier in the day calling Harris a “joke” and “the Enabler in Chief for Crooked Joe this entire time.”


Feel free to explain how Trump's wrong too. Especially the part where he asks who's really running the country, because even you, the second most retarded person on the planet, know that it isn't Biden.

[Suppressed Poet]

This ad aged well. Still cracks me up.


https://youtu.be/RXqeEUmbXvc?si=bp4CBihH4WWFgUL7

[Neveragain]

Kamala has decided to neither greet Netanyahu during his arrival in the US or be present at his speech to congress.

Netanyahu requests meeting with President Trump, who is the only one currently acting presidential.

Coups have serious consequences.

[Tgo01]

Kamala has decided to neither greet Netanyahu during his arrival in the US or be present at his speech to congress.

Of course. She has to appease the terrorist-loving faction of the Democrat party.

[Neveragain]

Of course. She has to appease the terrorist-loving faction of the Democrat party.

Oh, I'm sure it's "complicated."

[Methais]

Biden's probably about to die.

Like this month/week/day/hour/yesterday.

[Parkbandit]

Of course. She has to appease the terrorist-loving faction of the Democrat party.

They need Michigan

[Parkbandit]

Biden's probably about to die.

Like this month/week/day/hour/yesterday.

Last Wednesday...

[Arqueto]

Speaking of dying...

Welfare check on Seran?

(In no way am I wishing harm against him, genuinely concerned this might have been too much for his little heart to handle - he hasn't posted in a week.)

[drumpel]

Something will happen to Biden by August and he'll be out of the President's seat and Camela will be the President until the next election. This will give the Dems roughly 2 months to prop up Camela and convince dems that she has always been the better choice as a president over Biden that they forced out.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Seriously, can we get proof of life on Biden?

[Parkbandit]

Something will happen to Biden by August and he'll be out of the President's seat and Camela will be the President until the next election. This will give the Dems roughly 2 months to prop up Camela and convince dems that she has always been the better choice as a president over Biden that they forced out.

Whoa whoa whoa... Biden wasn't forced out.. he stepped aside as one of the bravest and most patriotic acts anyone in the history of this country ever did. What he did was a great service to this country and to democracy. What a hero.

[drumpel]

Whoa whoa whoa... Biden wasn't forced out.. he stepped aside as one of the bravest and most patriotic acts anyone in the history of this country ever did. What he did was a great service to this country and to democracy. What a hero.

https://i.imgflip.com/8ovfgo.gif

[Neveragain]

https://i.imgflip.com/8ovfgo.gif

"We are too stupid to be trusted with democracy." ~ Democrats

[Neveragain]

Seriously, can we get proof of life on Biden?

Ask and you shall receive.

https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-ed8f88988a7ea87c103b8be1b0d50ac8-pjlq

[~Rocktar~]

Something will happen to Biden by August and he'll be out of the President's seat and Camela will be the President until the next election. This will give the Dems roughly 2 months to prop up Camela and convince dems that she has always been the better choice as a president over Biden that they forced out.

Yeah, such a leader that she can't be bothered to show up when a foreign leader of one of our "closest allies" visits.

Trump was available.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Yeah, such a leader that she can't be bothered to show up when a foreign leader of one of our "closest allies" visits.

Trump was available.

Kamala doesn't want to lose the Nazi vote.

[Methais]

Something will happen to Biden by August and he'll be out of the President's seat and Camela will be the President until the next election. This will give the Dems roughly 2 months to prop up Camela and convince dems that she has always been the better choice as a president over Biden that they forced out.

While telling everyone that Trump is going to destroy democracy, because democrat politicians know how monumentally dumb and gullible their average voters are.


Whoa whoa whoa... Biden wasn't forced out.. he stepped aside as one of the bravest and most patriotic acts anyone in the history of this country ever did. What he did was a great service to this country and to democracy. What a hero.

In before Backlash randomly crawls out of his hole to say exactly this.

[Methais]

https://i.imgur.com/FdR0qRt.png

https://x.com/Blklivesmatter/status/1815629502128533647

https://blacklivesmatter.com/black-lives-matter-statement-on-kamala-harris-securing-enough-delegates-to-become-democratic-nominee/


BLM is clearly just being racist.


Check out all these dried up miserable cat ladies though :rofl:

https://x.com/ImMeme0/status/1815844259808924094

[Neveragain]

https://x.com/ImMeme0/status/1815844259808924094

"We want to thank you for having kids to pay for our social security, because we are selfish boomers and had no children. We also barrowed 2 trillion dollars from social security, bailed out our underwater homes and Woodstock was our greatest achievement. We destroyed our country, but it's ok, because I have my $150 bottle of wine to wash it all down. We're voting for Kamala because that's what the facebook told me to do."

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTJKx1haIAA4Rjn?format=jpg&name=small

https://x.com/ChefGruel/status/1815893700956021227

[ClydeR]

Now that he's over Covid, Biden posted on Twitter that he will address the nation today at 8 pm eastern. "I will address the nation from the Oval Office on what lies ahead, and how I will finish the job for the American people."

Trump claims that Biden faked having Covid.

[Parkbandit]

Now that he's over Covid, Biden posted on Twitter that he will address the nation today at 8 pm eastern. "I will address the nation from the Oval Office on what lies ahead, and how I will finish the job for the American people."

Trump claims that Biden faked having Covid.

I doubt Biden faked having covid... but it was certainly convenient for members of his own party to stab him in the back during the time he was sequestered.

Very successful coup... and to get their nominee up without a single vote being cast for her.

But Trump is a threat to democracy....................

[Suppressed Poet]

Now that he's over Covid, Biden posted on Twitter that he will address the nation today at 8 pm eastern. "I will address the nation from the Oval Office on what lies ahead, and how I will finish the job for the American people."

Trump claims that Biden faked having Covid.

Maybe he had Covid. Maybe he didn’t. I’m sure either way he did a lot of crying in his Delaware home. The crying had nothing to do with Covid.

[~Rocktar~]

I doubt Biden faked having covid... but it was certainly convenient for members of his own party to stab him in the back during the time he was sequestered.

Very successful coup... and to get their nominee up without a single vote being cast for her.

But Trump is a threat to democracy....................

One has to wonder how this will work out. With this and the botched Trump assassination attempt and the growing sentiment that it may have inside connections with how horrible the Secret Service did, you have to wonder if he will make it to the end of his term, alive or dead. Pretty sure some people need to go to jail over this mess.

[ClydeR]

I've made it clear that I believe America is at an inflection point. On those rare moments in history, when the decisions we make now determine our fate of our nation and the world for decades to come, America is going to have to choose between moving forward or backward, between hope and hate, between unity and division.

We have to decide: Do we still believe in honesty, decency, respect, freedom, justice and democracy. In this moment, we can see those we disagree with not as enemies but as, I mean, fellow Americans — can we do that? Does character in public life still matter?

More... (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/24/us/politics/biden-speech-transcript.html)


In his speech tonight announcing his retirement, Biden echoed the message that Lincoln gave us all those years ago. Lincoln told us that power -- real power -- comes not from hate but from truth. It's as true today as it was then.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UKS0qMPWGA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UKS0qMPWGA

[~Rocktar~]

If that's true, why do Democrats hate black people, other minorities and the poor so much that they keep making policies to directly damage their lives? Why does the Democrat party and it's adherents live and breath lies all day, every day? You racists are really rich quoting Lincoln, another Republican you shot.

[Parkbandit]

In his speech tonight announcing his retirement, Biden echoed the message that Lincoln gave us all those years ago. Lincoln told us that power -- real power -- comes not from hate but from truth. It's as true today as it was then.

Your party has a long and storied history of assassinating Presidents and politicians they disagree with politically.

[Suppressed Poet]

In his speech tonight announcing his retirement, Biden echoed the message that Lincoln gave us all those years ago. Lincoln told us that power -- real power -- comes not from hate but from truth. It's as true today as it was then.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UKS0qMPWGA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UKS0qMPWGA

He also lied in that same speech.


I’m the first president of this century to report to the American people that the United States is not at war anywhere in the world.

I suppose it’s technically true we are not at war right now even though we are funding two major conflicts. We weren’t at war this century from January 1st 2000 - October 6th 2001. Two Presidents before Biden, both Bill Clinton & George W Bush witnessed a time that the United States was not at war anywhere in the world this century.

[Neveragain]

In his speech tonight announcing his retirement, Biden echoed the message that Lincoln gave us all those years ago. Lincoln told us that power -- real power -- comes not from hate but from truth. It's as true today as it was then.

"So we assassinated him." ~ Democrat party

[ClydeR]

I suppose it’s technically true we are not at war right now even though we are funding two major conflicts. We weren’t at war this century from January 1st 2000 - October 6th 2001. Two Presidents before Biden, both Bill Clinton & George W Bush witnessed a time that the United States was not at war anywhere in the world this century.


He was not being technical. Funding somebody else's war isn't the same as being at war. Paying your doctor doesn't make you a doctor.

Engaging technical mode.. The 20th century ended on December 31, 2000. The 21st century began on January 1, 2001. Prince got it wrong.

I was dreamin' when I wrote this
Forgive me if it goes astray
Forgiven!

[Suppressed Poet]

He was not being technical. Funding somebody else's war isn't the same as being at war. Paying your doctor doesn't make you a doctor.

Engaging technical mode.. The 20th century ended on December 31, 2000. The 21st century began on January 1, 2001. Prince got it wrong.

I was dreamin' when I wrote this
Forgive me if it goes astray
Forgiven!

Ok…but from January 1st 2021 through October 6th 2021 we were not at war. Bill Clinton and George W Bush had a part of their term during that time. Biden lied. Thank you for confirming and glad we are on the same page.

[Methais]

He was not being technical. Funding somebody else's war isn't the same as being at war. Paying your doctor doesn't make you a doctor.

Engaging technical mode.. The 20th century ended on December 31, 2000. The 21st century began on January 1, 2001. Prince got it wrong.

I was dreamin' when I wrote this
Forgive me if it goes astray
Forgiven!

a prOxY wAr IsN't a WaR!!!!! -ClydeRetard

[Shaps]

a prOxY wAr IsN't a WaR!!!!! -ClydeRetard

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/20/us-troops-ukraine-00153499

"US weighs sending additional military advisers to Ukraine as Russia gains momentum"

"The additional troops, even in a non-combat role, would expand the U.S. military presence in the country, just as the House passed billions in military aid for Ukraine."

"President Joe Biden has long vowed U.S. troops wouldn’t participate in the war on Ukraine’s behalf, as doing so would increase the risk of a direct confrontation between American and Russian forces."

I mean they are "Troops", but not really "Troops" you know? They are participating in the "war effort", but not really you know?

Wish you idiots out there would get it straight. The US is not at war. Damn.

[ClydeR]

Ok…but from January 1st 2021 through October 6th 2021 we were not at war. Bill Clinton and George W Bush had a part of their term during that time. Biden lied. Thank you for confirming and glad we are on the same page.

During that time the US had boots on the ground in conflicts in at least Bosnia, Kosovo, East Timor and Yemen, the last two being small deployments.

[Suppressed Poet]

During that time the US had boots on the ground in conflicts in at least Bosnia, Kosovo, East Timor and Yemen, the last two being small deployments.

Bosnian War: 1992 - 1995

Kosovo: 1998 - 1999

East Timor Crisis: No US troops involved. All we did was embargo Indonesia.

Yemen: No idea what you are referring to here from the time period of January 1, 2001 - October 6th 2001 and neither do you.

Your move or shut up.

[ClydeR]

Bosnian War: 1992 - 1995

Kosovo: 1998 - 1999

East Timor Crisis: No US troops involved. All we did was embargo Indonesia.

Yemen: No idea what you are referring to here from the time period of January 1, 2001 - October 6th 2001 and neither do you.

Your move or shut up.


I got so many points from the millennium thing that I've already won today. I'll respond tomorrow so that the points from this will count then.

[~Rocktar~]

Ahhhhh, I love the smell of copium in the evening. It smells like victory.

[Neveragain]

I got so many points from the millennium thing that I've already won today. I'll respond tomorrow so that the points from this will count then.

Remember when Hillary took sniper fire in Bosnia?

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[ClydeR]

Presidential reports under the War Powers Resolution..


Bosnia. On January 25, 2000, President Clinton reported to Congress “consistent with the War
Powers Resolution” that the United States continued to provide combat-equipped U.S. Armed Forces
to Bosnia-Herzegovina and other states in the region as part of the NATO led Stabilization Force
(SFOR). The President noted that the U.S. force contribution was being reduced from “approximately
6,200 to 4,600 personnel,” with the U.S. forces assigned to Multinational Division, North, around the
city of Tuzla. He added that approximately 1,500 U.S. military personnel were deployed to Hungary,
Croatia, and Italy to provide “logistical and other support to SFOR” and U.S. forces continue to
support SFOR in “efforts to apprehend persons indicted for war crimes.”

East Timor. On February 25, 2000, President Clinton reported to Congress “consistent with the War
Powers Resolution” that he had authorized the participation of a small number of U.S. military
personnel in support of the United Nations Transitional Administration in East Timor (UNTAET),
which has a mandate to maintain law and order throughout East Timor, and to facilitate establishment
of an effective administration there, delivery of humanitarian assistance, and support the building of
self-government. The President reported that the U.S. contingent was small: three military observers,
and one judge advocate. To facilitate and coordinate U.S. military activities in East Timor, the
President also authorized the deployment of a support group (USGET), consisting of 30 U.S.
personnel. U.S. personnel would be temporarily deployed to East Timor, on a rotational basis, and
through periodic ship visits, during which U.S. forces would conduct “humanitarian and assistance
activities throughout East Timor.”

Sierra Leone. On May 12, 2000, President Clinton, “consistent with the War Powers Resolution,”
reported to Congress that he had ordered a U.S. Navy patrol craft to deploy to Sierra Leone to be
ready to support evacuation operations from that country if needed. He also authorized a U.S. C-17
aircraft to deliver “ammunition, and other supplies and equipment” to Sierra Leone in support of
United Nations peacekeeping operations there.

Yugoslavia/Kosovo. On June 16, 2000, President Clinton reported to Congress, “consistent with the
War Powers Resolution,” that the United States was continuing to provide military personnel to the
NATO-led KFOR security force in Kosovo. U.S. forces were numbered at 7,500, but were scheduled
to be reduced to 6,000 when ongoing troop rotations were completed. U.S. forces in Kosovo were
assigned to a sector centered near Gnjilane (Gjilan) in eastern Kosovo. Other U.S. military personnel
were deployed to other countries serving in administrative and logistics support roles, with
approximately 1,000 U.S. personnel in FYROM, Albania, and Greece.

Bosnia. On July 25, 2000, President Clinton reported to Congress, “consistent with the War Powers
Resolution,” that combat-equipped U.S. military personnel continued to participate in the NATO-led
Stabilization Force (SFOR) in Bosnia-Herzegovina, being deployed to Bosnia and other states in the
region in support of peacekeeping efforts in former Yugoslavia. U.S. military personnel levels have
been reduced from 6,200 to 4,600. Apart from the forces in Bosnia, approximately 1,000 U.S.
personnel continued to be deployed in support roles in Hungary, Croatia, and Italy.

East Timor. On August 25, 2000, President Clinton reported to Congress, “consistent with the War
Powers Resolution,” that the United States was currently contributing three military observers to the
United Nations Transitional Administration in East Timor (UNTAET) that was charged by the U.N.
with restoring and maintaining peace and security there. He also noted that the United States was
maintaining a military presence in East Timor separate from UNTAET, comprising about 30 U.S.
personnel who facilitate and coordinate U.S. military activities in East Timor and rotational operations
of U.S. forces there. These U.S. forces had been conducting humanitarian and civic assistance activities
for East Timor’s citizens. U.S. rotational presence operations in East Timor were expected, the
President said, to continue through December 2000.

Yemen. On October 14, 2000, President Clinton reported to Congress, “consistent with the War
Powers Resolution,” that on October 12, 2000, in the wake of an attack on the USS Cole in the port
of Aden, Yemen, he had authorized deployment of about 45 military personnel from U.S. Naval
Forces Central Command to Aden to provide “medical, security, and disaster response assistance.”
The President further reported that on October 13, 2000, about 50 U.S. military security personnel
arrived in Aden, and that additional “security elements” may be deployed to the area, to enhance the
ability of the U.S. to ensure the security of the USS Cole and the personnel responding to the incident.
In addition, two U.S. Navy surface combatant vessels are operating in or near Yemeni territorial
waters to provide communications and other support, as required.

Yugoslavia/Kosovo. On December 18, 2000, President Clinton reported to Congress, “consistent with
the War Powers Resolution,” that the United States was continuing to provide approximately 5,600
U.S. military personnel in support of peacekeeping efforts in Kosovo as part of KFOR. An additional
500 U.S. military personnel were deployed as the National Support Element in FYROM, with an
occasional presence in Albania and Greece. U.S. forces were assigned to a sector around Gnjilane
(Gjilan) in the eastern portion of Kosovo. The President noted that the mission for these U.S. military
forces was to maintain a safe and secure environment through conducting “security patrols in urban
areas and in the countryside throughout their sector.”

East Timor. On March 2, 2001, President George W. Bush reported to Congress, “consistent with the
War Powers Resolution,” that U.S. Armed Forces were continuing to support the United Nations
peacekeeping effort in East Timor aimed at providing security and maintaining law and order in East
Timor, coordinating delivery of humanitarian assistance, and helping establish the basis for self
government in East Timor. The United States, at the time, had three military observers attached to
UNTAET. The United States also had a separate military presence, the U.S. Support Group East
Timor (USGET), of approximately 12 U.S. personnel, including a security detachment, which
“facilitates and coordinates” U.S. military activities in East Timor.

Yugoslavia/Kosovo. On May 18, 2001, President George W. Bush reported to Congress, “consistent
with the War Powers Resolution,” that the United States was continuing to provide approximately
6,000 U.S. military personnel in support of peacekeeping efforts in Kosovo as part of KFOR. An
additional 500 U.S. military personnel are deployed as the National Support Element in FYROM, with
an occasional presence in Greece and Albania. U.S. forces in Kosovo were assigned to a sector
around Gnjilane in the eastern portion. President Bush noted that the mission for these U.S. military
forces was maintaining a safe and secure environment through conducting security patrols in urban
areas and in the countryside through their sector.

Bosnia. On July 25, 2001, President George W. Bush reported to Congress, “consistent with the War
Powers Resolution,” that about 3,800 combat-equipped U.S. Armed Forces continued to be deployed
in Bosnia-Herzegovina and other regional states as part of SFOR. Most were based at Tuzla in Bosnia.
About 500 others were based in Hungary, Croatia, and Italy, providing logistical and other support.

Iraq. At various times throughout 2001, the United States, together with forces of the coalition
enforcing the “no-fly” zones over Iraq, conducted military operations against the Iraqi air defense
system on numerous occasions in response to actual or potential threats against aircraft enforcing the
“no-fly” zones in northern and southern Iraq.

East Timor. On August 31, 2001, President George W. Bush reported to Congress, “consistent with
the War Powers Resolution,” that U.S. Armed Forces were continuing to support the United Nations
peacekeeping effort in East Timor aimed at providing security and maintaining law and order in East
Timor, coordinating delivery of humanitarian assistance, and helping establish the basis for self
government in East Timor. The United States, at the time, had three military observers attached to
UNTAET. The United States also had a separate military presence, USGET, of approximately 20 U.S.
personnel, including a security detachment, which “facilitates and coordinates” U.S. military activities
in East Timor, as well as a rotational presence of U.S. forces through temporary deployments to East
Timor. The President stated that U.S. forces would continue a presence through December 2001,
while options for a U.S. presence in 2002 were being reviewed, with the President’s objective being
redeployment of USGET personnel, as circumstances permit.

Terrorism threat. On September 24, 2001, President George W. Bush reported to Congress,
“consistent with the War Powers Resolution” and “Senate Joint Resolution 23,” that in response to
terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, he ordered the “deployment of
various combat-equipped and combat support forces to a number of foreign nations in the Central
and Pacific Command areas of operations.” The President noted in efforts to “prevent and deter
terrorism” he might find it necessary to order “additional forces into these and other areas of the
world.” He stated that he could not now predict “the scope and duration of these deployments,” or
the “actions necessary to counter the terrorist threat to the United States.”

More... (https://sgp.fas.org/crs/natsec/R42738.pdf)

[Suppressed Poet]

Presidential reports under the War Powers Resolution..

Oh, I see. So you think having troops providing peacekeeping efforts, security detachment, military training, or just merely being present in the region quantities as the U.S. being at a state of war?

If that is how you want to define being at war, then we are in multiple wars right now. His statement is still a lie. Do you require evidence we have military personnel stationed all over the world including conflict regions of the Middle East and Ukraine?

[ClydeR]

Oh, I see. So you think having troops providing peacekeeping efforts, security detachment, military training, or just merely being present in the region quantities as the U.S. being at a state of war?

Yes, when it involves having troops on the ground in a situation where the law requires a War Powers notice.

[Suppressed Poet]

Yes, when it involves having troops on the ground in a situation where the law requires a War Powers notice.

Oh shit ClydeR. You got me now! :rofl: Ok, so how do you explain this?:

June 7th 2024
Letter to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and President pro tempore of the Senate — War Powers Report
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2024/06/07/letter-to-the-speaker-of-the-house-of-representatives-and-president-pro-tempore-of-the-senate-war-powers-report/


Afghanistan. United States military personnel remain postured outside Afghanistan to address threats to the United States homeland and United States interests that may arise from inside Afghanistan.

Iraq and Syria. As part of a comprehensive strategy to defeat ISIS, United States Armed Forces are working by, with, and through local partners to conduct operations against ISIS forces in Iraq and Syria and against al-Qa’ida in Syria to limit the potential for resurgence of these groups and to mitigate threats to the United States homeland. A small presence of United States Armed Forces remains in strategically significant locations in Syria to conduct operations, in partnership with local, vetted ground forces, to address continuing terrorist threats emanating from Syria. United States Armed Forces in Iraq continue to advise, assist, and enable select elements of the Iraqi security forces, including Iraqi Kurdish security forces. United States Armed Forces also provide limited support to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization mission in Iraq. United States Armed Forces, as part of the Global Coalition to Defeat ISIS, remain present in Iraq at the invitation of the Government of Iraq.

As reported on December 27, 2023, I directed United States forces to conduct discrete strikes on the night of December 25, 2023, against three facilities in Iraq used by Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) and IRGC-affiliated groups for training, logistics support, and other purposes. As reported on January 25, 2024, I directed United States forces to conduct discrete strikes on the night of January 23, 2024, against facilities in Iraq used by IRGC-affiliated militia groups for training, logistics support, and other purposes. As reported on February 4, 2024, I directed United States forces to conduct discrete strikes against facilities in Syria and Iraq used by the IRGC and affiliated militia groups for headquarters and command and control, weapons storage, training, logistics support, and other purposes. These strikes followed attacks perpetrated by the IRGC and affiliated militia groups against United States personnel and facilities in Iraq and Syria that threatened the lives of United States personnel and Coalition forces operating alongside United States forces. These included an attack in northeastern Jordan, where an attack by IRGC-affiliated militia groups killed three United States service members. I directed these discrete military actions consistent with my responsibility to protect United States citizens both at home and abroad and in furtherance of United States national security and foreign policy interests, pursuant to my constitutional authority as Commander in Chief and Chief Executive and to conduct United States foreign relations and in accordance with the 2001 Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107-40) and the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq (Public Law 107-243).

Arabian Peninsula Region. The United States military continues to work closely with the Republic of Yemen government and regional partner forces to degrade the terrorist threat posed by al-Qa’ida in the Arabian Peninsula and ISIS.

United States Armed Forces, in a non-combat role, continue to provide military advice and limited information to the Saudi-led Coalition for defensive and training purposes only as they relate to territorial defense. Such support does not involve United States Armed Forces in hostilities with the Houthis for the purposes of the War Powers Resolution.

United States Armed Forces are deployed to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia to protect United States forces and interests in the region against hostile action by Iran and Iran-backed groups. These forces, operating in coordination with the Government of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, provide air and missile defense capabilities and support the operation of United States military aircraft. The total number of United States forces in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is approximately 2,321.

Since at least November 2023, Yemen-based Houthi militants have engaged in a series of attacks against United States military forces, including ships and aircraft, and against maritime commercial shipping, operating in the Red Sea, the Bab al-Mandeb Strait, and the Gulf of Aden. These attacks have posed a threat to the safety of United States forces and commercial ships and their crews, regional political and economic stability, and navigational rights and freedoms. The Houthi militants continue to pose a threat of future attacks against United States forces and military vessels and against other maritime traffic in the region. As previously reported on January 12, 2024, January 24, 2024, February 5, 2024, and February 26, 2024, I directed United States forces, as part of a multinational operation, to conduct discrete strikes on January 11, 2024, January 22, 2024, February 3, 2024, and February 24, 2024, against targets in Yemen that facilitate Houthi militants’ attacks in the Red Sea region. I directed the strikes in order to protect and defend United States personnel and assets, to degrade and disrupt the ability of the Houthi militants to carry out future attacks against the United States and against vessels operating in the Red Sea region that could further destabilize the region and threaten United States strategic interests. The strikes were conducted in a manner designed to limit the risk of escalation and avoid civilian casualties.

Jordan. At the request of the Government of Jordan, approximately 3,813 United States military personnel are deployed to Jordan to support Defeat-ISIS operations, to enhance Jordan’s security, and to promote regional stability.

Lebanon. At the request of the Government of Lebanon, approximately 75 United States military personnel are deployed to Lebanon to enhance the government’s counterterrorism capabilities and to support the counterterrorism operations of Lebanese security forces.

Turkey. United States Armed Forces remain deployed to Turkey, at the Turkish government’s request, to support Defeat-ISIS operations and to enhance Turkey’s security.

East Africa Region. United States Armed Forces continue to counter the terrorist threat posed by ISIS and al-Shabaab, one of al-Qa’ida’s most well-resourced affiliates. Since the last periodic report, United States Armed Forces have conducted two strikes against al-Shabaab high-value targets and a number of airstrikes in Somalia against al-Shabaab in defense of our Somali partner forces when engaged with al-Shabaab and our support is requested to defend them against attack. United States Armed Forces remain prepared to conduct airstrikes in Somalia against ISIS and al-Shabaab terrorists. United States military personnel conduct periodic engagements in Somalia to train, advise, and assist regional forces, including Somali and African Union Transition Mission in Somalia forces, in connection with counterterrorism operations. United States military personnel are deployed to Kenya to support counterterrorism operations in East Africa. United States military personnel continue to partner with the Government of Djibouti, which has permitted use of Djiboutian territory for basing of United States Armed Forces. United States military personnel remain deployed to Djibouti, including for purposes of staging for counterterrorism and counter-piracy operations in the vicinity of the Horn of Africa and the Arabian Peninsula, and to provide contingency support for embassy security augmentation in East Africa, as necessary.

Lake Chad Basin and Sahel Region. United States military personnel in the Lake Chad Basin and Sahel Region continue to monitor violent extremist organizations and provide support to African and European partners conducting counterterrorism activities in the region, including by advising, assisting, and accompanying these partner forces. Approximately 700 United States military personnel are currently deployed to Niger. However, the Department of Defense is in the process of withdrawing United States military personnel from Niger, and the withdrawal will be completed over the next several months.

Cuba. United States Armed Forces continue to conduct humane and secure detention operations for detainees held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, under the authority provided by the 2001 Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107-40), as informed by the law of war. There are 30 such detainees as of the date of this report.

Philippines. United States military personnel deployed to the Philippines are providing support to the counterterrorism operations of the armed forces of the Philippines.

MILITARY OPERATIONS IN EGYPT IN SUPPORT OF THE MULTINATIONAL FORCE AND OBSERVERS

Approximately 363 United States military personnel are assigned to or are supporting the United States contingent of the Multinational Force and Observers, which have been present in Egypt since 1981.

UNITED STATES AND NORTH ATLANTIC TREATY ORGANIZATION OPERATIONS IN KOSOVO

The United States continues to contribute forces to the Kosovo Force (KFOR), led by the North Atlantic Treaty Organization in cooperation with local authorities, bilateral partners, and international institutions, to deter renewed hostilities in Kosovo. Approximately 576 United States military personnel are among KFOR’s approximately 4,500 personnel.

UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES IN NORTH ATLANTIC TREATY ORGANIZATION COUNTRIES

Approximately 80,000 United States Armed Forces personnel are assigned or deployed to North Atlantic Treaty Organization countries in Europe, including those deployed to reassure our allies and to deter further Russian aggression.

UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES IN HAITI TO AUGMENT SECURITY OF THE UNITED STATES EMBASSY

As reported on March 14, 2024, I directed a security force of military personnel to deploy to Port-au-Prince, Haiti, on March 12, 2024, to strengthen United States Embassy security in light of the instability in the country. Although this military security force was equipped for combat, its movement was undertaken as a precautionary measure solely for the purpose of protecting United States diplomatic facilities and diplomatic personnel. The forces equipped for combat have since departed Haiti.

I have directed the participation of United States Armed Forces in all of the above-described operations pursuant to my constitutional and statutory authority as Commander in Chief and as Chief Executive (including the authority to carry out Public Law 107-40, Public Law 107-243, and other statutes), as well as my constitutional and statutory authority to conduct the foreign relations of the United States. Officials of my Administration and I communicate regularly with congressional leadership, relevant congressional committees, and other Members of Congress with regard to these deployments, and we will continue to do so.

Sincerely,

JOSEPH R. BIDEN JR.

Checkmate.