Coming to America

[~Rocktar~]

Have you watched what is happening in Israel. Hundreds slaughtered in their own homes, at concerts, on the street going about their daily lives. Israel is one of the most heavily armed countries in the world. Israel has armed guards in schools. Israel has missile defense systems, one of the finest militaries and toughest police who aren't afraid in the least to go after terrorist to protect the innocent.


Israel has strict gun control laws. Sadly, horribly, they had to learn that they don't work. Israel's Ministry of Public Security is relaxing the law and telling people to arm themselves because they were forced by the inhuman brutality of the attacks to relearn that gun ownership is a necessity for a free people to protect themselves from animals. The police can't be everywhere, the military can't stop everyone, the only person that can protect you all the time is YOU.

Arm yourselves, your friends, your family. Rifle, pistol and significant ammunition for all. Get trained, real training, not just go to a gun range once, pay for real tactical combat training. I can't recommend The Warrior Poet Society highly enough though there are plenty of others. Take your safety into your own hands. This isn't about hurting others, this is about protecting yourself, your spouse, your kids, your neighbors, your community. This is about defending life. There are millions of illegals with uncounted numbers of military aged men already here. This is a religious war by fanatical zealots, and it is coming here, sooner or later.

“There is no greater love than this: that a person would lay down his life for the sake of his friends.” John 15:13

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[Solkern]

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Is Mexico or Canada going to attack us?

[~Rocktar~]

Is Mexico or Canada going to attack us?

Keep being retarded.

[Solkern]

Keep being retarded.

Are we surrounded by countries that hate us?

[~Rocktar~]

Are we surrounded by countries that hate us?

Again demonstrating your retardation. I made it clear who was coming but yeah, reading comprehension, how does it work?

Fuck off.

[Solkern]

Again demonstrating your retardation. I made it clear who was coming but yeah, reading comprehension, how does it work?

Fuck off.

Canada is about to invade us! Terrance and Philip are leading the charge! Operation human shield will save us.

[Anebriated]

you can laugh solkern but there is a real threat in the US right now and hes right. With the millions pouring across the borders unchecked who is to say there arent terror cells waiting in cities to be activated when the time is right, like when the US is at war in Israel and Taiwan. Foreign powers dump their US treasuries and activate terror cells. If someone wanted to ruin America thats how it would be done.

[Solkern]

you can laugh solkern but there is a real threat in the US right now and hes right. With the millions pouring across the borders unchecked who is to say there arent terror cells waiting in cities to be activated when the time is right, like when the US is at war in Israel and Taiwan. Foreign powers dump their US treasuries and activate terror cells. If someone wanted to ruin America thats how it would be done.

And who says there are terror cells waiting? Seems like a bunch of scare tactics. Plus this can be said for any country in the world, just a bunch of what ifs what ifs what ifs, Russia could nuke us, should we all build bomb shelters? China could do a cyber attack and already have cells waiting, should all stop using the internet?

So yes, I am laughing.

And like I said before, “foreign powers dumping treasuries” doesn’t have the effect you think it will have.

[Anebriated]

yeah but youve also shown you lack a bigger understanding of geopolitics and the overall issues we are facing today so forgive me if i dont really care that you think that.

[Solkern]

yeah but youve also shown you lack a bigger understanding of geopolitics and the overall issues we are facing today so forgive me if i dont really care that you think that.

No, I just don’t live in fear of what “could” happen. I’m not going to prepare for something that has a minuscule chance of actually happening.

And you for some reason keep bringing up treasury dumpings, when you show a lack of understanding of what would actually happen. Here’s a hint… in order to dump US treasuries… someone needs to buy them, and the country that dumps them, loses out on the long term gains from holding treasuries. In order to dump, you need to find buyers, maybe now you’ll see why there is not going to be a “fire sale of US treasuries” because it just won’t do anything really.

[Solkern]

yeah but youve also shown you lack a bigger understanding of geopolitics and the overall issues we are facing today so forgive me if i dont really care that you think that.

No matter how one twists or turns, the US wins if China dumps US treasuries.

China occasionally manages US treasuries in a fashion that people often claim as “dumping”.

However, the typical reason is China needs to support the Yuan (sell dollar and stabilize or increase the price of the Yuan) to stop capital flight.

https://mishtalk.com/economics/who-wins-if-china-dumps-us-treasuries/#:~:text=No%20matter%20how%20one%20twists,Yuan)%20 to%20stop%20capital%20flight.


This is what would happen If China sold it all.

[Anebriated]

Thats not entirely true, they can simply stop using them and the USD in transactions. The reason the USD stays propped up is because it has the best use case of any currency. If nobody is using it the value evaporates. So I guess I should be more clear when I say "dump" as it doesn't necessarily need to be selling. Also the US cant afford to have the dollar drop like that so they would just print more money(devaluing the currency even further) and buy them back themselves to kick the can down the road but prevent the all out collapse. We are in stagflation right now whether people want to admit it or not. At the very least we are staring at a major depression.

I get that it seems like fearmongering, and I really hope that im wrong, but I'd rather be scared and prepared than ignorant and caught with my pants down like I was in '08.

[Solkern]

Thats not entirely true, they can simply stop using them and the USD in transactions. The reason the USD stays propped up is because it has the best use case of any currency. If nobody is using it the value evaporates. So I guess I should be more clear when I say "dump" as it doesn't necessarily need to be selling. Also the US cant afford to have the dollar drop like that so they would just print more money(devaluing the currency even further) and buy them back themselves to kick the can down the road but prevent the all out collapse. We are in stagflation right now whether people want to admit it or not. At the very least we are staring at a major depression.

I get that it seems like fearmongering, and I really hope that im wrong, but I'd rather be scared and prepared than ignorant and caught with my pants down like I was in '08.

Umm no, China NEEDS US bonds. I don’t think you get that. America can survive without China, but China can’t survive without America. China has always maintained a relative amount of US treasury bonds and dollar reserves, and it only changes based on their needs. China is an export country, with the majority of that going to America. China would collapse if it sold all its bonds or stop buying them as needed. They would have no way to prop up their currency, stabilize their economy, buy commodities from abroad or even sell products to the states.

You understanding that having a weaker dollar is good for America right?

China can’t just “stop” using the dollar, China needs US treasury bonds for their own economy.

These two said it best.
America should just cut off US dollar supply to China, and China economy will collapse immediately.

Without billions of US dollars trade surplus, China cannot print trilions of Yuan yearly to subsidise all the R&D to make better high technology to compete against America high technology corporations.

Also China printing trillions of Yuan every year to build the biggest infrastructure in the world. ALL PAID BY AMERICAN CONSUMERS.

American consumers are stupidly helping China to buy the best technology and scientists from around the world, to destroy American empire. This OXYMORON behavior of American Congress is mind boggling.

America high technology should get the high technology supply chain from Taiwan and Thailand and all their problems solved. Taiwan should allow import of cheap labor from China and North Korea to reduce smartphone production cost.

America can survive without China trade. America partner and loyal allies such as Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Thailand, Phillipines should be leveraged to contain China now.



China is actually subsidizing our consumption to keep its factories at work in a loop that works until it stops. China has no alternative but to recycle it’s trade surplus and finance our trade deficit. They need to keep selling to us and therefore they will continue to build dollar reserves. The cost of not selling to the US would be high unemployment in China. It is not practical to think that many dollars can go to other buyers. What, for example, does Germany want with more dollars? So China can either hold US treasuries, buy American products or use the dollars to buy real goods (commodities). For all the reasons mentioned above the commodity purchases are not wise. Buying American products will import unemployment as opposed to exporting it. That is not going to happen. Buying assets in America is risky if done by foreigners at scale. Those assets could be expropriated or heavily taxed. Not fair, but. In the end we may see our currency devalue because we have bankrupted ourselves and then those cumulative Chinese surpluses will be paid for at a fraction of their original cost in real terms. Or they will bankrupt themselves by investing in receivables that will never be paid (i.e. our trade deficits) as well as their own pretend bank loans.

[Anebriated]

do you understand what BRICS is trying to accomplish here? like really understand? They are creating a world economy outside of the USD control that has almost equal buying power. There is a reason China is among the largest buyers of gold and has been for the last decade. They have been using USD to increase their gold reserves so that as it continues to collapse on itself they have a hedge and the new BRICS system is based on having tangible assets, giving further security. One day the switch will flip and you will understand.

(population - GDP)
China: 1.4b - 17.7t
India: 1.4b - 3.1t
Russia: 143m - 1.7t
brazil: 214m - 1.6t


US: 331m - 23.3t
EU: 748m - 24t

this is just the start. OPEC nations are getting ready to join BRICS as well. they are already accepting payment in other currencies than the USD for the first time since WWII. the articial system that has propped us up is gone. the tides are turning.

https://www.gold.org/goldhub/data/gold-reserves-by-country?gad=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw7JOpBhCfARIsAL3bobePBjajTlmtOHL38s0K LNMtatk1-KPGajy3OO0CHs_M6ufWYECBy9saAkfwEALw_wcB

[Suppressed Poet]

Not going to lie, I was disappointed to find out this thread isn’t a retrospective critical review discussion of the Eddie Murphy film.

https://media.tenor.com/ZrbarloddmIAAAAd/coming-to.gif

[Methais]

Are we surrounded by countries that hate us?

They're already here in the country if you haven't noticed.


https://i.imgur.com/jXpIq8a.png (https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1711444719606095913?s=20)
https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1711444719606095913?s=20


Click it and listen instead of just reading the caption. Pretty big crowd of these cunts, and right in Times Square.

Your thoughts? Keep in mind our border is wide fucking open too, even if you try to pretend it isn't.





Canada is about to invade us! Terrance and Philip are leading the charge! Operation human shield will save us.

Stop being soy.

[Parkbandit]

Coming 2 America 2 was 2 awful to watch.

[Solkern]

do you understand what BRICS is trying to accomplish here? like really understand? They are creating a world economy outside of the USD control that has almost equal buying power. There is a reason China is among the largest buyers of gold and has been for the last decade. They have been using USD to increase their gold reserves so that as it continues to collapse on itself they have a hedge and the new BRICS system is based on having tangible assets, giving further security. One day the switch will flip and you will understand.

(population - GDP)
China: 1.4b - 17.7t
India: 1.4b - 3.1t
Russia: 143m - 1.7t
brazil: 214m - 1.6t


US: 331m - 23.3t
EU: 748m - 24t

this is just the start. OPEC nations are getting ready to join BRICS as well. they are already accepting payment in other currencies than the USD for the first time since WWII. the articial system that has propped us up is gone. the tides are turning.

https://www.gold.org/goldhub/data/gold-reserves-by-country?gad=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw7JOpBhCfARIsAL3bobePBjajTlmtOHL38s0K LNMtatk1-KPGajy3OO0CHs_M6ufWYECBy9saAkfwEALw_wcB

They are “trying”? No, BRICS isn’t trying, one or two countries in BRICS is “trying”, Russia is one of them(or the only one). That’s a BIG difference and a quite important distinction, but you do understand, that it’s just not going to happen?

If you understand the Geopolitical landscape like you say you do. You’d understand why BRICs will never create their own currency or drop the dollar. I work in the financial sector, I’ve worked in major banks in China, the UAE and Russia. BRICs have too many different competing interest, along with failing economies like Russia, US allies in BRICS as well, India and China hate each other. BRICs as an economic powerhouse taking over America or the G7/8 will never happen.

China going to a BRICS currency goes against everything their government stands for, you realize this right? China would lose control of their ability to manipulate their currency, and they would want full control of the BRICS currency, which the others would never support. Next, it would weaken the Chinese economy, as they would be propping up BRICS completely while dealing with failures such as Russia. Also, the Chinese economy is in fucking shambles right now, and it won’t get better in the near to mid future, quite possibly ever.

Accepting other currencies, you think it’s all doom and gloom, those payments are going to be few and far between, mainly for a few reasons. 1. Transparency. 2. Government. 3. Consistency. 4. Reliability. 5. The size of our economy. 6. The dollar 59.79% of total foreign reserves. In comparison, the Euro accounts for 19.66%, while the Chinese renminbi accounts for just 2.76% of global reserves. China could expand its market share by twenty-fold and still lag the U.S. dollar by a wide margin. 7. History. 8. Military. 9. Technology 10. These importance of the American economy.

Put simply, replacing the U.S. dollar in foreign reserves is easier said than done.

[Seran]

Lol, an entire thread devoted to the xenophobia of the far right. Last I checked we haven't been in state of war with Mexico is more than a hundred years and yet the couch potato militants would have you believe this is a passive invasion attempt. So sad.

[Suppressed Poet]

Coming 2 America 2 was 2 awful to watch.

I didn’t see it but I heard the same. We’ve had so many awful films & shows capitalizing on people’s nostalgia of beloved classics that I’ve become cautious about watching them.

[Methais]

Coming 2 America 2 was 2 awful to watch.

It was really really bad. I didn't expect much, but they could have at least tried.

[Methais]

Lol, an entire thread devoted to the xenophobia of the far right. Last I checked we haven't been in state of war with Mexico is more than a hundred years and yet the couch potato militants would have you believe this is a passive invasion attempt. So sad.

Sit down retard, people who shower and have jobs are speaking.

[~Rocktar~]

Coming 2 America 2 was 2 awful to watch.

^^ This is correct.

[Anebriated]

They are “trying”? No, BRICS isn’t trying, one or two countries in BRICS is “trying”, Russia is one of them(or the only one). That’s a BIG difference and a quite important distinction, but you do understand, that it’s just not going to happen?

If you understand the Geopolitical landscape like you say you do. You’d understand why BRICs will never create their own currency or drop the dollar. I work in the financial sector, I’ve worked in major banks in China, the UAE and Russia. BRICs have too many different competing interest, along with failing economies like Russia, US allies in BRICS as well, India and China hate each other. BRICs as an economic powerhouse taking over America or the G7/8 will never happen.

China going to a BRICS currency goes against everything their government stands for, you realize this right? China would lose control of their ability to manipulate their currency, and they would want full control of the BRICS currency, which the others would never support. Next, it would weaken the Chinese economy, as they would be propping up BRICS completely while dealing with failures such as Russia. Also, the Chinese economy is in fucking shambles right now, and it won’t get better in the near to mid future, quite possibly ever.

Accepting other currencies, you think it’s all doom and gloom, those payments are going to be few and far between, mainly for a few reasons. 1. Transparency. 2. Government. 3. Consistency. 4. Reliability. 5. The size of our economy. 6. The dollar 59.79% of total foreign reserves. In comparison, the Euro accounts for 19.66%, while the Chinese renminbi accounts for just 2.76% of global reserves. China could expand its market share by twenty-fold and still lag the U.S. dollar by a wide margin. 7. History. 8. Military. 9. Technology 10. These importance of the American economy.

Put simply, replacing the U.S. dollar in foreign reserves is easier said than done.

BRICS goal isnt to create a new reserve currency. It is to use the currency of each nation backed by physical assets on a global market place. Something the central bank doesnt allow.

[Solkern]

BRICS goal isnt to create a new reserve currency. It is to use the currency of each nation backed by physical assets on a global market place. Something the central bank doesnt allow.

You are wrong. I don’t know where you get your information from, but your sources seem awful.

Russian President Vladimir Putin first announced that BRICS proposal to create an international reserve currency at the BRICS summit in 2022 to rival the U.S. dollar as the global reserve standard. This proposal was later confirmed to come in the form of a gold-backed currency.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/gold-backed-brics-currency-very-hard-to-deliver-lyn-alden

Either way, do you understand how silly that is? that approach would mean the new currency tracks the price of gold and other physical assets rather than the BRICS' individual currencies. In any event, we have to ask what exactly the BRICS would accomplish by creating what would be essentially just another gold derivative? gold reserves were finite, and the more gold China used to prop up the new exchange, the less it would have to back its own currency the renminbi.

If you think having more gold backing a currency makes it stronger, then the more gold China allocates to the BRICS currency means there is less gold backing the RMB which, if we follow this logic, means a weaker RMB.

BRICS can create a currency backed by gold, but its purpose would be purely symbolic.

And on top of that;

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/currencies/dedollarization-suffers-blow-swift-usd-share-global-payments-hits-record-2023-8?utm_medium=ingest&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=markets&utm_source=yahoo.com

An international movement against the dollar's global dominance, spearheaded by nations including China and Russia, has suffered a setback with the greenback's share of worldwide payments hitting a record high.

Data from the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication, also known as SWIFT, showed an unprecedented 46% of foreign-exchange payments via the communications system involved the US dollar in July, per Bloomberg.

[Stop It]

The people who want to control you want you to believe them when they tell you to be afraid.

Stop it.

[Methais]

The people who want to control you want you to believe them when they tell you to be afraid.

Stop it.

Get it guys? It's because his name is Stop It that he ends all of his posts with "Stop it."

https://i.imgur.com/p2ixw92.png

[Archigeek]

Wait, it WOULD have a catchy name, and let's face it, that's all that really matters. I'm down for some Gold BRICS.

[Anebriated]

You are wrong. I don’t know where you get your information from, but your sources seem awful.

Russian President Vladimir Putin first announced that BRICS proposal to create an international reserve currency at the BRICS summit in 2022 to rival the U.S. dollar as the global reserve standard. This proposal was later confirmed to come in the form of a gold-backed currency.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/gold-backed-brics-currency-very-hard-to-deliver-lyn-alden

Either way, do you understand how silly that is? that approach would mean the new currency tracks the price of gold and other physical assets rather than the BRICS' individual currencies. In any event, we have to ask what exactly the BRICS would accomplish by creating what would be essentially just another gold derivative? gold reserves were finite, and the more gold China used to prop up the new exchange, the less it would have to back its own currency the renminbi.

If you think having more gold backing a currency makes it stronger, then the more gold China allocates to the BRICS currency means there is less gold backing the RMB which, if we follow this logic, means a weaker RMB.

BRICS can create a currency backed by gold, but its purpose would be purely symbolic.

And on top of that;

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/currencies/dedollarization-suffers-blow-swift-usd-share-global-payments-hits-record-2023-8?utm_medium=ingest&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=markets&utm_source=yahoo.com

An international movement against the dollar's global dominance, spearheaded by nations including China and Russia, has suffered a setback with the greenback's share of worldwide payments hitting a record high.

Data from the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication, also known as SWIFT, showed an unprecedented 46% of foreign-exchange payments via the communications system involved the US dollar in July, per Bloomberg.

So this might be us saying a similar thing but without going into nuance on a message board discussion coming across very different. They plan on having a currency(most likely some sort of CBDC, I believe I've heard XRP mentioned) to facilitate the cross border transactions but there is not a plan to have those countries all use one central currency.

[Solkern]

So this might be us saying a similar thing but without going into nuance on a message board discussion coming across very different. They plan on having a currency(most likely some sort of CBDC, I believe I've heard XRP mentioned) to facilitate the cross border transactions but there is not a plan to have those countries all use one central currency.

I’m not sure I really follow? You said they don’t want to make an international currency reserve, and they only want to use their currencies backed by physical assets, Putin clearly stated that they do want an ICR.
They also want to make a euro type currency. But there are soo many issues with that, I won’t even bother getting into it.

They also want to trade more between each other in their own currencies, Russia and India were doing that, it lasted a grand total of like 6 months to a year because Russia didn’t want rupees, and they are DESPERATE for foreign currency.

Like how bad can it be, when a country that is beyond desperate for foreign currency, turn down rupees? That should show you all you need to know about how dysfunctional the corporation is in BRICS. Yet dollar usage between these countries is at an all time high.. looks like it’s as it’s always been, lots of talks and that’s it.

The main issue is, BRICS isn’t like the EU, they have absolutely nothing in common, except for emerging economies. Half of them don’t even like each other, they can’t even cooperate on basic shit between themselves, etc etc. They can talk about this all they want, the world and the news can make a big deal about it all they want. In the end, nothing is really going to change.

[Anebriated]

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/bonds/treasury-bond-yields-market-selloff-market-crashes-dot-com-bubble-2023-10


I know you said people wouldn’t dump US treasuries but…

[Solkern]

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/bonds/treasury-bond-yields-market-selloff-market-crashes-dot-com-bubble-2023-10


I know you said people wouldn’t dump US treasuries but…

It’s just a bear market on treasury bonds right now. Got to remember, the USD is a reserve currency, it’s the currency everyone wants and especially when risk appears. It represents the world’s biggest economy, superpower, military, most entrepreneurial and most innovative, and the best R&D in closely linked ties between academia and industry.

In short, the USD is a currency you run to, not away from.

So this gives US central bankers a luxury other emerging market central bankers do not have. Meaning they can print USD and hoover up trillions of USD debt keeping yields optically and practically low. So in a way it is like an emerging market with a set in stone currency peg.

Meaning 1 USD is always pegged to 1 USD...

This was not the case with the Argentine peso peg for example, or even bands that central bankers sometimes try to keep their currency within. Their pegs or bands against the USD can go when pressure builds up. With the US, it can’t. It is pegged to its own currency.

And just so you know, this is not just US bonds, it’s bonds around the world that are struggling.

This is all happening because there are expectations among investors that the world’s major central banks will keep interest rates higher for longer to bring inflation down to their targets.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Lol, an entire thread devoted to the xenophobia of the far right. Last I checked we haven't been in state of war with Mexico is more than a hundred years and yet the couch potato militants would have you believe this is a passive invasion attempt. So sad.

I realize you don't know this, but the steady stream of illegal aliens across our border don't all originate from Mexico. And nearly 2% of the nations population in 3 years is an invasion.

[Parkbandit]

I realize you don't know this, but the steady stream of illegal aliens across our border don't all originate from Mexico. And nearly 2% of the nations population in 3 years is an invasion.

"BUT ITS TRUMPS FAULT'S!" -Seran the Retard Champion

[Solkern]

I realize you don't know this, but the steady stream of illegal aliens across our border don't all originate from Mexico. And nearly 2% of the nations population in 3 years is an invasion.

Interesting fact, most of the illegals in the country, didn’t come here illegally.

[~Rocktar~]

Interesting fact, most of the illegals in the country, didn’t come here illegally.

That used to be true but the millions that have come through our southern border have put that in doubt.

[Solkern]

That used to be true but the millions that have come through our southern border have put that in doubt.

I’m pretty sure it’s still the same.

[Suppressed Poet]

I’m pretty sure it’s still the same.

We seem to be shifting the conversation here.

An unsecured border is a national security risk. I’m all for legal immigration reform to improve the speed and efficiency of that system, but border security shouldn’t be a politically divisive issue.

[Solkern]

We seem to be shifting the conversation here.

An unsecured border is a national security risk. I’m all for legal immigration reform to improve the speed and efficiency of that system, but border security shouldn’t be a politically divisive issue.

So is it unsecured borders, illegal immigrants, or both? If it’s both we should deal with the overstays as that’s where most of the illegals come from. Shouldn’t we prioritize the bigger problem? 9/11 wasn’t done by people crossing illegally, it was done by people who arrived legally, or had visas.

When was the last terrorist attack done by people who crossed the border illegally? I’m pretty sure almost all the attempted terrorist activities were all done by people who legally entered this country.

So saying, prepare yourselves, and get your guns ready, because terrorist are crossing the border illegally, is just unfounded and not true.

Edited: enforcing visas is a form of border security

[Parkbandit]

So is it unsecured borders, illegal immigrants, or both? If it’s both we should deal with the overstays as that’s where most of the illegals come from. Shouldn’t we prioritize the bigger problem? 9/11 wasn’t done by people crossing illegally, it was done by people who arrived legally, or had visas.

Secure the border first and foremost. It does nothing to "fix" immigration if you don't actually protect the borders.


When was the last terrorist attack done by people who crossed the border illegally? I’m pretty sure almost all the attempted terrorist activities were all done by people who legally entered this country.

So saying, prepare yourselves, and get your guns ready, because terrorist are crossing the border illegally, is just unfounded and not true

You're being disingenuous at best now... but probably just ignorant.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/number-people-terror-watchlist-stopped-mexico-us-border-risen-rcna105095

100 people on the terrorist watch list THAT WE KNOW OF entered the country illegally in 2022. That number increased in 2023 to 160 people.

Soykern's response: "BUT THEY HAVEN'T COMMITTED ANY TERRORIST ATTACK SO WE GUCCI!"

[Methais]

I’m pretty sure it’s still the same.

Based on what? A hunch?


So saying, prepare yourselves, and get your guns ready, because terrorist are crossing the border illegally, is just unfounded and not true.

Based on what? A hunch?

That might have been the case before Biden, but since 2021...probably not.

Emphasis on "probably," as I'm not speaking definitively like you are.

[Methais]

Secure the border first and foremost. It does nothing to "fix" immigration if you don't actually protect the borders.



You're being disingenuous at best now... but probably just ignorant.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/number-people-terror-watchlist-stopped-mexico-us-border-risen-rcna105095

100 people on the terrorist watch list THAT WE KNOW OF entered the country illegally in 2022. That number increased in 2023 to 160 people.

Soykern's response: "BUT THEY HAVEN'T COMMITTED ANY TERRORIST ATTACK SO WE GUCCI!"

It only took 19 terrorists to change the entire world 22 years ago.

I wonder how Solkern's Russian friends feel about border security. The same friends that Solkern bases who he votes for on how he thinks they would feel about it.

[Solkern]

Based on what? A hunch?



Based on what? A hunch?

That might have been the case before Biden, but since 2021...probably not.

Emphasis on "probably," as I'm not speaking definitively like you are.

According to DHS, it’s still the same. Overstays accounted for more illegals than border crossings.

[Solkern]

It only took 19 terrorists to change the entire world 22 years ago.

I wonder how Solkern's Russian friends feel about border security. The same friends that Solkern bases who he votes for on how he thinks they would feel about it.

19 terrorist, that entered the country legally, and had visas, not ones that crossed the border illegally. I like how you conveniently ignored this fact. And instead of addressing the issue of where most illegals come from, including not only the largest foreign attack on US soil, but attempted terrorist attacks came from people who legally entered this country. You just scream, secure the southern border!

Go ahead tell me the last time or how many times a terrorist attack happened or was attempted from someone that came into the country illegally, compared to attempted terrorist attacks or one that happened by those who came legally.

Which do you think is easier, getting terrorist across the southern border, or just getting ones with European passports to enter this country with no issues, and overstay their visas?

Now, I’m not saying securing our southern border isn’t an issue. It is an issue. But the bigger issue is controlling our borders from people overstaying their visas.

[Anebriated]

The biggest difference here being that the people staying on extended visa’s had already gone through a vetting process where there is practically nothing on the border. It’s not fool proof but it’s better than nothing.

[Solkern]

The biggest difference here being that the people staying on extended visa’s had already gone through a vetting process where there is practically nothing on the border. It’s not fool proof but it’s better than nothing.

Not really, Europeans have almost zero vetting.

[Suppressed Poet]

Not really, Europeans have almost zero vetting.

I’m just a dumb American, but that doesn’t seem to be working out too well for France based on the news sources I read.

[Methais]

19 terrorist, that entered the country legally, and had visas, not ones that crossed the border illegally. I like how you conveniently ignored this fact. And instead of addressing the issue of where most illegals come from, including not only the largest foreign attack on US soil, but attempted terrorist attacks came from people who legally entered this country. You just scream, secure the southern border!

Go ahead tell me the last time or how many times a terrorist attack happened or was attempted from someone that came into the country illegally, compared to attempted terrorist attacks or one that happened by those who came legally.

Which do you think is easier, getting terrorist across the southern border, or just getting ones with European passports to enter this country with no issues, and overstay their visas?

Now, I’m not saying securing our southern border isn’t an issue. It is an issue. But the bigger issue is controlling our borders from people overstaying their visas.


Feel free to quote where I mentioned anything about how they entered the country.

I even edited my post right after I first clicked the post button to change "It only took 19 of them to change the world" to "It only took 19 terrorists to change the world." to reflect that I was talking about terrorists in general in response to this line...


100 people on the terrorist watch list THAT WE KNOW OF entered the country illegally in 2022. That number increased in 2023 to 160 people.

...instead of "them" as in "those people crossing the border illegally." Since 100 and 160 are much higher numbers than 19, regardless of method of entry.

Given the context of the post I was replying to though, I'll give you a pass for assuming I said something that I didn't actually say.

Despite all that though, if you actually believe no terrorists have entered the country through our southern border, then well...that's just Backlash level of willful ignorance. They're here, they just haven't struck yet. But if/when they do, I expect it to be massive and hitting multiple cities on the same day. Hopefully I'm wrong as fuck, but the world and society are deteriorating so rapidly that it's probably only a matter of time. Especially with how cucked our government is.

And retards like time4fun will still be like "This is a very complicated situation..."

TLDR: You typed all that up just to be wrong.

[Solkern]

I’m just a dumb American, but that doesn’t seem to be working out too well for France based on the news sources I read.

You should know better than to compare France to America.

[Solkern]

I’m just a dumb American, but that doesn’t seem to be working out too well for France based on the news sources I read.

You might like this

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mv8bfh5SMlM

[Parkbandit]

Now, I’m not saying securing our southern border isn’t an issue. It is an issue. But the bigger issue is controlling our borders from people overstaying their visas.

Your retard mealy-mouth is making you sound even more retarded right now than you usually are.

How many terrorists are coming into this country through the legal channels and just overstaying.. vs. number of terrorists sneaking into the country via our porous borders?

SPOILER: We don't let people on our terrorist watch list to get a visa...

[Parkbandit]

Not really, Europeans have almost zero vetting.

So, you are saying that someone on the terrorist watch list can just go through Europe and come into the US with a visa.

Sure.

I love how you make a retarded statement.. and now you are just digging your heels in with more retarded statements as if that makes you look less retarded.

SPOILER: It doesn't.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Interesting fact, most of the illegals in the country, didn’t come here illegally.

100% of illegals in our country, are here illegally.

[~Rocktar~]

100% of illegals in our country, are here illegally.

^^ This is correct.

[Suppressed Poet]

You should know better than to compare France to America.

https://y.yarn.co/b509d789-9480-4a49-bc75-bcbefa54eb1e_text.gif

[Guister]

^^ This is correct.

Hopefully they throw a molotov cocktail in your window.

[~Rocktar~]

Hopefully they throw a molotov cocktail in your window.

Ok Nazi supporter. The difference between the Left and the Right illustrated right here. The Right wants the Left to wise up or just go away and leave people alone. The left wants to kill everyone that disagrees with them and that they can't shame into submission.

[Guister]

Ok Nazi supporter. The difference between the Left and the Right illustrated right here. The Right wants the Left to wise up or just go away and leave people alone. The left wants to kill everyone that disagrees with them and that they can't shame into submission.

Just to be clear, Rocktar, I am your bully. And I will be there at every turn, lurking around every corner, terrorizing you.

[~Rocktar~]

Just to be clear, Rocktar, I am your bully. And I will be there at every turn, lurking around every corner, terrorizing you.

You aren't a bully, you are a Leftist joke. I hope you have fun right up until the effects of your shitty policies and horrid philosophy come home to roost for you and in that moment, just before you die, I hope you think about the fact that you did this to yourself. My only sadness in such a death for you is that other people will have to suffer from your shitty policies and philosophy.

[Guister]

You aren't a bully, you are a Leftist joke. I hope you have fun right up until the effects of your shitty policies and horrid philosophy come home to roost for you and in that moment, just before you die, I hope you think about the fact that you did this to yourself. My only sadness in such a death for you is that other people will have to suffer from your shitty policies and philosophy.

Wait a second, can you just repeat your position? Cause I thought there was a chance we could be friends?

[Realk]

I read the thread, I was thinking what SHM said though such a strange statement that most illegals aren't here illegally? 100% of them are that's why it's called that.

[Solkern]

I read the thread, I was thinking what SHM said though such a strange statement that most illegals aren't here illegally? 100% of them are that's why it's called that.

You didn’t read it right.

[Solkern]

You aren't a bully, you are a Leftist joke. I hope you have fun right up until the effects of your shitty policies and horrid philosophy come home to roost for you and in that moment, just before you die, I hope you think about the fact that you did this to yourself. My only sadness in such a death for you is that other people will have to suffer from your shitty policies and philosophy.

While you have republicans that can’t even make policy, can’t even do shit. Just look at the house right now, in shambles. Can’t even come together to elect a speaker to help Israel, now they are begging for the democrats help.
Had control of Congress for 2 years, with a Republican president… still couldn’t do shit, except pass a tax bill.

Republicans spend more time fighting amongst themselves, dealing with extremist in their own party, than actually governing.

[MrKennedy]

Speaking of Russians, they seem to really like MUD's for some reason. I can't seem to put my finger on why though.

They do though if you look up most of the top MUD reviews on YouTube you will see that most of the commentators are Russian.

It's funny too because they really like English language MUD's and they will be there with a translator the whole time scratching their heads.

[Anebriated]

Fun fact: we have practically stopped sending billions that we dont have to other countries since McCarthy stopped bending over for the left.

[Guister]

While you have republicans that can’t even make policy, can’t even do shit. Just look at the house right now, in shambles. Can’t even come together to elect a speaker to help Israel, now they are begging for the democrats help.
Had control of Congress for 2 years, with a Republican president… still couldn’t do shit, except pass a tax bill.

Republicans spend more time fighting amongst themselves, dealing with extremist in their own party, than actually governing.

It's the same thing here in Canada.

You get the conservatives who are a bunch of sissy f*gs and all they do is pretend to be Trump. They contribute nothing original or creative. It sickens me to hear them speak.

Liberals get shit done, although they do it brutally by controlling all the money and dishing it out to provinces as they see fit.

I dunno, I'll probably vote liberal again.

[Suppressed Poet]

It's the same thing here in Canada.

You get the conservatives who are a bunch of sissy f*gs and all they do is pretend to be Trump. They contribute nothing original or creative. It sickens me to hear them speak.

Liberals get shit done, although they do it brutally by controlling all the money and dishing it out to provinces as they see fit.

I dunno, I'll probably vote liberal again.

Of course you will.

Canadian liberals wear blackface and give standing ovations to Nazis.

[Suppressed Poet]

While you have republicans that can’t even make policy, can’t even do shit. Just look at the house right now, in shambles. Can’t even come together to elect a speaker to help Israel, now they are begging for the democrats help.
Had control of Congress for 2 years, with a Republican president… still couldn’t do shit, except pass a tax bill.

Republicans spend more time fighting amongst themselves, dealing with extremist in their own party, than actually governing.

It’s a fair criticism, but I have hope they will get their shit together.

[Parkbandit]

It's the same thing here in Canada.

You get the conservatives who are a bunch of sissy f*gs and all they do is pretend to be Trump. They contribute nothing original or creative. It sickens me to hear them speak.

Liberals get shit done, although they do it brutally by controlling all the money and dishing it out to provinces as they see fit.

I dunno, I'll probably vote liberal again.

I hope you can finally manage to scrape some money together to buy your family a home in Canada... without having to suck dicks on the corner to supplement your minimum wage job.

[Parkbandit]

While you have republicans that can’t even make policy, can’t even do shit. Just look at the house right now, in shambles. Can’t even come together to elect a speaker to help Israel, now they are begging for the democrats help.
Had control of Congress for 2 years, with a Republican president… still couldn’t do shit, except pass a tax bill.

As usual, you are either ignorant or just too stupid to do a simple google search to see if you know what you are talking about.

And as usual, you don't know what you are talking about: President Trump signed 117 bills into law in his first year.

SPOILER: Congress creates Bills that the President signs into law. Here, something more your speed:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=men-vp5jvzI


Republicans spend more time fighting amongst themselves, dealing with extremist in their own party, than actually governing.

To me, extremism would be that a portion of your Party supported the butchering if Jewish babies, women and children.... but that's just me.

[Methais]

https://i.imgur.com/PG8dSbp.jpg

https://media.tenor.com/4opamcAljRQAAAAd/laugh-smile.gif

[Suppressed Poet]

A few years ago I visited Canada on a Boy Scout trip with my oldest son canoeing the Boundary Waters. Beautiful country and that was one of the best vacations I’ve ever had.

Anyways, we were there for Canada Day and our guide was explaining it’s significance. He said something like while Americans fought a war & won their independence, Canadians earned it through good behavior & repeatedly asking for it politely enough times to wear the British down to allow them to have self-governance. That explanation seemed to align with our cultural differences.

[Parkbandit]

https://media.tenor.com/4opamcAljRQAAAAd/laugh-smile.gif

I wish MacGuyver would just go back on his meds already. Doesn't Canada have free healthcare?? He can't afford a cellphone, but at least he should be able to have free prescriptions.

[Parkbandit]

A few years ago I visited Canada on a Boy Scout trip with my oldest son canoeing the Boundary Waters. Beautiful country and that was one of the best vacations I’ve ever had.

Anyways, we were there for Canada Day and our guide was explaining it’s significance. He said something like while Americans fought a war & won their independence, Canadians earned it through good behavior & repeatedly asking for it politely enough times to wear the British down to allow them to have self-governance. That explanation seemed to align with our cultural differences.

LOL.. for real.

[Guister]

As usual, you are either ignorant or just too stupid to do a simple google search to see if you know what you are talking about.

And as usual, you don't know what you are talking about: President Trump signed 117 bills into law in his first year.

SPOILER: Congress creates Bills that the President signs into law. Here, something more your speed:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=men-vp5jvzI



To me, extremism would be that a portion of your Party supported the butchering if Jewish babies, women and children.... but that's just me.

There isn't enough pedophilia in this video.

[Guister]

A few years ago I visited Canada on a Boy Scout trip with my oldest son canoeing the Boundary Waters. Beautiful country and that was one of the best vacations I’ve ever had.

Anyways, we were there for Canada Day and our guide was explaining it’s significance. He said something like while Americans fought a war & won their independence, Canadians earned it through good behavior & repeatedly asking for it politely enough times to wear the British down to allow them to have self-governance. That explanation seemed to align with our cultural differences.

Well, that's actually not accurate.

The English couldn't control our land, and so after wiping out the French, they simply retreated back to their island in Europe.

This is of course after a hundred or so years of completely genocidally wiping out Indians (we call them indigenous).

[Suppressed Poet]

This is of course after a hundred or so years of completely genocidally wiping out Indians (we call them indigenous).

The indigenous tribes frequently fought genocidal wars amongst each other. They had it coming being the inferior civilization.

[~Rocktar~]

I wish MacGuyver would just go back on his meds already. Doesn't Canada have free healthcare?? He can't afford a cellphone, but at least he should be able to have free prescriptions.

Canadian "free" healthcare doesn't cover medications, dental, vision or hearing care. Most areas are so lacking in health care professionals that for something like a simple colonoscopy, if you aren't in a very few major cities, you will wait from 6-18 months.

[Guister]

Canadian "free" healthcare doesn't cover medications, dental, vision or hearing care. Most areas are so lacking in health care professionals that for something like a simple colonoscopy, if you aren't in a very few major cities, you will wait from 6-18 months.

True Rocktar. It is not the total package.

Unlike the deal you offer black people at your backdoor garage glory house.

[~Rocktar~]

True Rocktar. It is not the total package.

Unlike the deal you offer black people at your backdoor garage glory house.

So you are a Canadian racist, who knew, oh wait, You Canadians have been raping, murdering and disappearing Indigenous men and women throughout your history.

[Guister]

I'm not racist. Except when it comes to picking out men to plug your mom in the ass with. Then I prefer big black guys.

[~Rocktar~]

I'm not racist. Except when it comes to picking out men to plug your mom in the ass with. Then I prefer big black guys.

Sounds like something a frustrated Canadian racist would say.

[~Rocktar~]

https://youtu.be/gR7nVYz9rJo?si=Z2HjXbqqgbsqcuxI

[Parkbandit]

Here, something more your speed:


There isn't enough pedophilia in this video.

https://media0.giphy.com/media/HP7mtfNa1E4CEqNbNL/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b95267y2mj4qe1hl1m1cvoufayaig1j7 rm3rel8o7lut&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

[Parkbandit]

I prefer big black guys.

https://media0.giphy.com/media/HP7mtfNa1E4CEqNbNL/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b95267y2mj4qe1hl1m1cvoufayaig1j7 rm3rel8o7lut&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g