Raging leftist Joe Biden supports capital over workers

[joeyb]

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/railroad-unions-decry-bidens-call-to-block-possible-strike



Railroad unions on Tuesday decried President Joe Biden’s call for Congress to intervene in their contract dispute, saying it undercuts their efforts to address workers’ quality of life concerns, but businesses stressed that it is crucial to avoid a strike next week that would devastate the economy.

Biden and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said that lawmakers will be asked to vote this week to impose the terms of the deals the 12 unions agreed to before an original strike deadline in September, even though four of those unions representing more than half of the 115,000 rail workers rejected them. Eight other unions ratified the five-year deals that include 24% raises and $5,000 in bonuses.

Biden said he reluctantly agreed that it would be best to override the union votes because the potential damage to the economy would be too great.

“Congress I think has to act to prevent it,” Biden said Tuesday. “It’s not an easy call but I think we have to do it. The economy’s at risk.”

Unions and worker groups have been pushing to improve the demanding schedules they say make it hard for workers to ever take a day off and persuade railroads to add paid sick time. They have threatened to strike if new agreements can’t be reached before a Dec. 9 deadline.


is socialist Joe Biden correct in trying to intervene in this dispute between the unionized railroad workers and the rail companies, apparently taking the side of capital?

[Tgo01]

is socialist Joe Biden correct in trying to intervene in this dispute between the unionized railroad workers and the rail companies, apparently taking the side of capital?

Since probably over 90% of them voted straight ticket Democrat last election and will do so again and again, then yes, they should get exactly what they voted for.

[Neveragain]

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/railroad-unions-decry-bidens-call-to-block-possible-strike



is socialist Joe Biden correct in trying to intervene in this dispute between the unionized railroad workers and the rail companies, apparently taking the side of capital?

It's funny.

If the union members are serious, they will just walk off.

[Alfster]

Since probably over 90% of them voted straight ticket Democrat last election and will do so again and again, then yes, they should get exactly what they voted for.

Your world Outlook is so skewed it's straight up entertaining to me.

Must be wild to tie your entire identity to a political belief.

[Tgo01]

Your world Outlook is so skewed it's straight up entertaining to me.

Must be wild to tie your entire identity to a political belief.

I’m glad I can bring some entertainment to what must be an otherwise miserable life for you. No need to thank me.

[Seran]

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/railroad-unions-decry-bidens-call-to-block-possible-strike



is socialist Joe Biden correct in trying to intervene in this dispute between the unionized railroad workers and the rail companies, apparently taking the side of capital?

National security involves keeping transportation infrastructure moving, or at least the law was written that way. Good for Biden for intervening.

[Suppressed Poet]

National security involves keeping transportation infrastructure moving, or at least the law was written that way. Good for Biden for intervening.

You are Mao’s wet dream of a loyal brainwashed peasant.

[Neveragain]

National security involves keeping transportation infrastructure moving, or at least the law was written that way. Good for Biden for intervening.

Is "Plantation" Joe going to put the railroad workers back in chains if the workers walk off the job?

[Tgo01]

Wow. The House already passed the bill to force the workers to accept the contract. Democrats know how to get shit done, as long as it entails screwing over their biggest and most loyal base.

[Neveragain]

Wow. The House already passed the bill to force the workers to accept the contract. Democrats know how to get shit done, as long as it entails screwing over their biggest and most loyal base.

Why would you expect any different from the party who's foundation is forced labor?

On a positive note, maybe we will get some good music out of our new slave force.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-zlSq4mWiE

[Neveragain]

Nothing sounds safer than locomotives racing down the railway track that's being maintained by disgruntled workers.

[Seran]

Wow. The House already passed the bill to force the workers to accept the contract. Democrats know how to get shit done, as long as it entails screwing over their biggest and most loyal base.

Yeah, 5% raises per year and a $5,000 contract signing bonus, the railroad workers are /really/ getting screwed there. Lol

[Seran]

I'm quite impressed with how pro-organized labor and collective bargaining the far right gets whenever there's an opportunity to disagree with President Biden

[Methais]

Your world Outlook is so skewed it's straight up entertaining to me.

Must be wild to tie your entire identity to a political belief.

"Vote blue no matter who!" -Democrats

[~Rocktar~]

Yeah, 5% raises per year and a $5,000 contract signing bonus, the railroad workers are /really/ getting screwed there. Lol

After Bidenflation, they, like everyone else, with an inflation rate of 8+% per year are losing money year over year. Fuck you ignorant ass because math is hard, losing around 3% buying power to inflation caused by the drunken spending of this administration is not a win.

Oh, and the last agreement done with them by this administration included 0 that is ZERO paid sick days off. They are asking for 7.

While I am not a fan of unions and think public sector unions need to go away, having a few paid sick days isn't extreme.

[Shaps]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvdbZqyigtE

Democrats... a video is worth 1000 words.

[~Rocktar~]

I'm quite impressed with how pro-organized labor and collective bargaining the far right gets whenever there's an opportunity to disagree with President Biden

That's because you stupid Leftists don't understand that people can actually hold different opinions from the party leadership and can vote as individuals. The Right isn't against unions and workers getting a fair shake, we ARE against unions that protect deadbeats and criminals, that bloat pay and benefits all out of proportion to other similar jobs and who get illegal preferential treatment from the government during bankruptcy. OH, and all public sector unions.

[Neveragain]

I'm quite impressed with how pro-organized labor and collective bargaining the far right gets whenever there's an opportunity to disagree with President Biden

I'm impressed with how Democrats continue to Lucy union workers every election and then do shit like pass NAFTA and side with the corporations when the union workers go on strike.

[Parkbandit]

You are Mao’s wet dream of a loyal brainwashed peasant.

It's even easier in Seran's case.. no washing required because there is no functioning brain.

[SHAFT]

Your world Outlook is so skewed it's straight up entertaining to me.

Must be wild to tie your entire identity to a political belief.

Not convinced Tgo is a real person. Must be 3-4 people operating the account with the sole purpose of trolling and appearing as insane as possible.

[Viekn]

Not convinced Tgo is a real person. Must be 3-4 people operating the account with the sole purpose of trolling and appearing as insane as possible.

More than likely it's a Russian bot account run by the FSB.

Dreavenings are probably just a way to lure nerdy old Americans to suckle on the teat of Mother Russia, making us dependent. Bastards!

[Tgo01]

Not convinced Tgo is a real person. Must be 3-4 people operating the account with the sole purpose of trolling and appearing as insane as possible.

Says the person who literally wished a hurricane would kill as many people as possible because he didn't like the way the region as a whole voted. Maybe you should sit this one out, and sit out all of the other ones while you're at it.

[Tgo01]

The Senate has already passed the bill as well, it just needs Biden’s signature. Amazing how fast the Democrats got this rammed through, and the stupid Republicans who helped.

Just remember to always vote blue no matter who, unionists!

[Bhaalizmo]

Not convinced Tgo is a real person. Must be 3-4 people operating the account with the sole purpose of trolling and appearing as insane as possible.

https://media.giphy.com/media/0C45wbFRJ5Lmf93Kod/giphy.gif

[Tgo01]

Just to remind people who the people attacking me really are:

Seran: Cheered on a hurricane to kill people in Florida because they elected a Republican governor.
Bhaalizmo: Said an unarmed woman deserved to be shot in the face and killed for committing the crime of trespassing.
Shaft: Cheered on a hurricane to kill people in Florida because the region as a whole voted Republican.
Keller: Thought about another poster's 12 year old daughter being a stripper, then stalked said daughter on social media for 10 years to see if she did indeed become a stripper.
Alfster: Agrees with these chucklefucks on almost 100% of the shit they post.

These are the people calling me a bad person because of who I voted for. You all aren't good people, you just let yourself think that because other bad people praise you for being bad people.

[Bhaalizmo]

Just to remind people who the people attacking me really are:

Seran: Cheered on a hurricane to kill people in Florida because they elected a Republican governor.
Bhaalizmo: Said an unarmed woman deserved to be shot in the face and killed for committing the crime of trespassing.
Shaft: Cheered on a hurricane to kill people in Florida because the region as a whole voted Republican.
Keller: Thought about another poster's 12 year old daughter being a stripper, then stalked said daughter on social media for 10 years to see if she did indeed become a stripper.
Alfster: Agrees with these chucklefucks on almost 100% of the shit they post.

These are the people calling me a bad person because of who I voted for. You all aren't good people, you just let yourself think that because other bad people praise you for being bad people.

https://media.giphy.com/media/0LTTtUF2BatbrEecTI/giphy.gif
https://media.giphy.com/media/2Y7vjKwsZ9tpBSuNL4/giphy.gif

[Bhaalizmo]

waaaaa

Bhaalizmo: Said an unarmed woman deserved to be shot in the face and killed for committing the crime of trespassing.

That's not at all what I said, and I'll restate it for you Sparky, since it's burning like a hot splinter in your mind.

Given the scenario. Congress people in the midst of electoral certification duties, are being escorted off premise due to the approaching angry mob. What Capitol defense there is, is trying to prevent the doors being breached, but they are in fact being breached. Congress people are still on the floor as the angry mobs assault on the doors causes them to give way and someone begins to climb through the door, a mob soon to follow. A single shot is fired, and that person who breached the door first dies.

Yes I think the shot was justified. Absofuckinglutely. Given the scenario yes, I think that a single shot was rather reserved. I think the first person breaching that door on that day, at that time, in that scenario deserved to be fired upon by the person charged with defending the congress people and their staffers at his back. 100%. You can't convince me otherwise and I admire his restraint.

It's not about party. It's about a job, and a door being breached in front of a guard who is dutifully guarding his charges. That was a well deserved single shot fired. Had he double tapped or more I could fault him. I cannot fault him a single shot that day.

That is not saying that an unarmed woman deserves to be shot in the face and killed for the crime of trespassing.

That is saying that a woman of unknown armaments who is breaching the door of the capitol deserves to be shot by the guard who is warning her repeatedly "STOP OR I'LL SHOOT". He is remarkably restrained to have only fired once. He was justified. She on the other hand made at least two bad choices that day. It's too bad.

Stop being disingenuous and acting like I said shit I didn't say. Here it is plain as day for you, I clarified it at length. Read it and fail to comprehend.


Waaaaa. These are the people calling me a bad person because of who I voted for. You all aren't good people, you just let yourself think that because other bad people praise you for being bad people.

I've never called you a bad person because of who you voted for any other reason.

I call you everything from an idiot to a cretin to a fucking dolt for making bullshit up all of the goddamned time and trying to pass it off as the real deal. You're a non-stop fiction writer. You're a gaslighter and a strawmanner. May your overbite get infected with the ballsweat on your chin. My the gnats of a thousand camels take up residence in uranus.

[Tsk Tsk]

If he stood up for the Union and held his ground, this thread would be: RAGING LEFTING JOE BIDEN CHOOSES UNIONS OVER THE ECONOMY: ECONOMY WILL CRASH AND ITS HIS FAULT. CHRISTMAS CANCELED. Being president comes with making difficult decisions and I guarantee this one is he doesn't take lightly and is choosing to fight another day. I also understand the railroad unions being absolutely furious at the decision as well. Alas, there's already enough supply chain issues with the Mississippi drought and input costs going sky high. This would absolutely cripple an already fragile situation. I don't believe this is the end to railroad workers getting sick days that they absolutely deserve though and I would bet my money within 2 years they'll get them. At the end of the day it's sad anyone has to strike to get sick days and I hope for better.

[Parkbandit]

If he stood up for the Union and held his ground, this thread would be: RAGING LEFTING JOE BIDEN CHOOSES UNIONS OVER THE ECONOMY: ECONOMY WILL CRASH AND ITS HIS FAULT. CHRISTMAS CANCELED. Being president comes with making difficult decisions and I guarantee this one is he doesn't take lightly and is choosing to fight another day. I also understand the railroad unions being absolutely furious at the decision as well. Alas, there's already enough supply chain issues with the Mississippi drought and input costs going sky high. This would absolutely cripple an already fragile situation. I don't believe this is the end to railroad workers getting sick days that they absolutely deserve though and I would bet my money within 2 years they'll get them. At the end of the day it's sad anyone has to strike to get sick days and I hope for better.

It's cute you really believe President Biden really had any thought in this at all.

He was busy eating apple sauce and cottage cheese.

[Tsk Tsk]

It's cute you really believe President Biden really had any thought in this at all.

He was busy eating apple sauce and cottage cheese.

Do you think you can go an entire day without being a condescending asshole?

[Parkbandit]

Do you think you can go an entire day without being a condescending asshole?

Honestly? No.

I just find your naïveté adorable..

"STOP BEING MEAN TO PRESIDENT BIDEN!" -Tsk Tsk 2022

[Tsk Tsk]

Honestly? No.

I just find your naïveté adorable..

"STOP BEING MEAN TO PRESIDENT BIDEN!" -Tsk Tsk 2022

At least your honest with yourself about something.

[Parkbandit]

At least your honest with yourself about something.

I'm a very honest person.. which is why I honestly think it's cute you ran in here to defend President Biden as he heroically averts a union strike all by himself.

[Tgo01]

If he stood up for the Union and held his ground, this thread would be: RAGING LEFTING JOE BIDEN CHOOSES UNIONS OVER THE ECONOMY: ECONOMY WILL CRASH AND ITS HIS FAULT. CHRISTMAS CANCELED. Being president comes with making difficult decisions and I guarantee this one is he doesn't take lightly and is choosing to fight another day. I also understand the railroad unions being absolutely furious at the decision as well. Alas, there's already enough supply chain issues with the Mississippi drought and input costs going sky high. This would absolutely cripple an already fragile situation. I don't believe this is the end to railroad workers getting sick days that they absolutely deserve though and I would bet my money within 2 years they'll get them. At the end of the day it's sad anyone has to strike to get sick days and I hope for better.

Why would I blame the president for a union striking? I have never even considered such a thing.

[Tsk Tsk]

Why would I blame the president for a union striking? I have never even considered such a thing.

You didn't make the thread.

[Tgo01]

You didn't make the thread.

Ironically enough a left leaning person did.

[Seran]

Pretty accurate how disingenuous the GOP is about it's outrage on all of it's stances. Even the stuff the agree with, namely preventing a labor strike from harming businesses countrywide, they are trying to stir up sentiment against the President over it.

[Methais]

STOP OR I'LL SHOOT



https://i.imgur.com/iBuGhh2.jpg

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Wait


Is this the same strike the Joe Biden government got the unions to wait until after the election before it ruined the economy more?

[Tgo01]

Wait


Is this the same strike the Joe Biden government got the unions to wait until after the election before it ruined the economy more?

Yup, it sure is.

The union members wanted to strike to compel the corporations to give them more benefits. Joe Biden, the guy who pretends to love unions so they will vote for him, asked them to wait until after the election before they considered striking because he didn't want to hurt Democrats in the midterms. Then a couple of weeks after the election Joe Biden asked congress to force the unions to agree to the contract so they couldn't strike.

But remember Trump said something about Russian salad dressing one time, that's the real story today.

[Seran]

Yup, it sure is.

The union members wanted to strike to compel the corporations to give them more benefits. Joe Biden, the guy who pretends to love unions so they will vote for him, asked them to wait until after the election before they considered striking because he didn't want to hurt Democrats in the midterms. Then a couple of weeks after the election Joe Biden asked congress to force the unions to agree to the contract so they couldn't strike.

But remember Trump said something about Russian salad dressing one time, that's the real story today.

Funny how much narrative you MAGA losers make up.

[~Rocktar~]

Funny how much narrative you MAGA losers make up.

No one is surprised that you and other leftists deny the facts of the case.

[Methais]

Funny how much narrative you MAGA losers make up.

Enlighten us and set the record straight then. What really happened Seran?

Or just keep projecting your own lies onto everyone else. It's not like anyone on here isn't used to it or doesn't expect it every time you post.

[joeyb]

Yup, it sure is.

The union members wanted to strike to compel the corporations to give them more benefits. Joe Biden, the guy who pretends to love unions so they will vote for him, asked them to wait until after the election before they considered striking because he didn't want to hurt Democrats in the midterms. Then a couple of weeks after the election Joe Biden asked congress to force the unions to agree to the contract so they couldn't strike.


this is correct. not that I think republicans are on the side of labor, or any current politician in congress for that matter, but Biden took the side of capital and it was a terrible move for more than one reason.

if you aren't on the side of labor you're a piece of shit class traitor and it's some lib-brain shit to try and defend Biden here

[Parkbandit]

this is correct. not that I think republicans are on the side of labor, or any current politician in congress for that matter, but Biden took the side of capital and it was a terrible move for more than one reason.

if you aren't on the side of labor you're a piece of shit class traitor and it's some lib-brain shit to try and defend Biden here

What if they demanded a $10 raise per hour? Should you still be on the side of labor? What about $20? $50? $100?

Having a set rule of "YOU MUST BE ON THE SIDE OF LABOR" is just as retarded as "YOU MUST BELIEVE HER!".

[joeyb]

What if they demanded a $10 raise per hour? Should you still be on the side of labor? What about $20? $50? $100?

Having a set rule of "YOU MUST BE ON THE SIDE OF LABOR" is just as retarded as "YOU MUST BELIEVE HER!".

no, you're just retarded and your slippery slope is equally retarded.

yes, if the workers were striking with demands of having the executives wives bake a loaf of banana bread for each worker every week, that would be unreasonable and not something to support. if, however, the demands are reasonable, such as asking for sick leave or we will strike, that is something to support.

99% of cases you should be supporting labor. unions are good things (unless they are police unions)

[Parkbandit]

no, you're just retarded and your slippery slope is equally retarded.

"if you aren't on the side of labor you're a piece of shit class traitor"

There are many times you shouldn't be on the side of labor because their demands are retarded.

Like you.


yes, if the workers were striking with demands of having the executives wives bake a loaf of banana bread for each worker every week, that would be unreasonable and not something to support. if, however, the demands are reasonable, such as asking for sick leave or we will strike, that is something to support.

So if they want 1 loaf of banana bread every week.. that's crazy.. but if they want 3 weeks of sick pay every year or 4 or 6 or 10.. then that is something to support.

You don't even comprehend how fucking stupid you are... but I'm glad I can point it out.


99% of cases you should be supporting labor. unions are good things (unless they are police unions)

If you are a shit employee, then I can agree: Unions are good to be in.

[joeyb]

"if you aren't on the side of labor you're a piece of shit class traitor"

There are many times you shouldn't be on the side of labor because their demands are retarded.

Like you.



So if they want 1 loaf of banana bread every week.. that's crazy.. but if they want 3 weeks of sick pay every year or 4 or 6 or 10.. then that is something to support.

You don't even comprehend how fucking stupid you are... but I'm glad I can point it out.



If you are a shit employee, then I can agree: Unions are good to be in.

lol at your old dementia riddled brain.

yes, there are reasonable and unreasonable demands. you are old and have boomer brain or are just completely brainwashed by the bullshit you watch on your cable tv if you think it's ok to take advantage of labor. your thinking is reactionary

yes, workers deserve more and unions are good. you're arguing in bad faith or are just an idiot if you don't know what good unions have done for workers or think capital needs more power or protection in this country.

[Suppressed Poet]

lol at your old dementia riddled brain.

yes, there are reasonable and unreasonable demands. you are old and have boomer brain or are just completely brainwashed by the bullshit you watch on your cable tv if you think it's ok to take advantage of labor. your thinking is reactionary

yes, workers deserve more and unions are good. you're arguing in bad faith or are just an idiot if you don't know what good unions have done for workers or think capital needs more power or protection in this country.

Labor does not contribute to profits.

You can spend your whole life laboring to sculpt your own feces into a historically accurate sculpture of Karl Marx’s face, but nobody is going to want to buy that shit.

[ClydeR]

As China's labor force shrinks and no other nation steps forward to fill the supply of shrinking labor, labor unions in the United States will grow in popularity, membership and power, and their demands of employers will increase, which will decrease the return on capital. The next 20 years should be good time to be in the U.S. labor force but probably not as good a time as the phenomenal last 20 years to be a stock investor.

[Parkbandit]

lol at your old dementia riddled brain.

yes, there are reasonable and unreasonable demands. you are old and have boomer brain or are just completely brainwashed by the bullshit you watch on your cable tv if you think it's ok to take advantage of labor. your thinking is reactionary

yes, workers deserve more and unions are good. you're arguing in bad faith or are just an idiot if you don't know what good unions have done for workers or think capital needs more power or protection in this country.

So, you can be on the side of corporate America and not be a piece of shit class traitor then.

I believe we call this progress.

Who said you can't teach a retard something. I just proved that saying wrong.

[joeyb]

So, you can be on the side of corporate America and not be a piece of shit class traitor then.

I believe we call this progress.

Who said you can't teach a retard something. I just proved that saying wrong.

lol at the old man and his bad faith bullshit.

a) you should take the side of labor. if you side with capital you are a class traitor

b) well, actually, what if labor demands to shit on my pillow and make me sleep on it? then am i still a class traitor?

a) no, that would be an unreasonable request.

b) ok, then you see, even though my brain stopped functioning 20 years ago when i was a young 75, i have proven that you can take the side of capital and not be a class traitor!

[Parkbandit]

lol at the old man and his bad faith bullshit.

a) you should take the side of labor. if you side with capital you are a class traitor

b) well, actually, what if labor demands to shit on my pillow and make me sleep on it? then am i still a class traitor?

a) no, that would be an unreasonable request.

b) ok, then you see, even though my brain stopped functioning 20 years ago when i was a young 75, i have proven that you can take the side of capital and not be a class traitor!

A simple "I'm sorry for being so fucking stupid in every post Parkbandit. I'll have someone with an IQ above 12 help me out next time" would suffice from you MacGuyver.

I don't blame you.. I blame our education system for playing "Pass the Trash" with you through elementary school.

That's what happens when you have unions in charge of education.

[Seran]

So, you can be on the side of corporate America and not be a piece of shit class traitor then.

I believe we call this progress.

Who said you can't teach a retard something. I just proved that saying wrong.

Class traitor? Last time I checked we didn't have a caste system in the United States, but if the Republican Party you support has implemented one, the rest of us would like to know.

[Suppressed Poet]

Class traitor? Last time I checked we didn't have a caste system in the United States, but if the Republican Party you support has implemented one, the rest of us would like to know.

How is it possible for you to be this dumb & somehow still be capable of posting words on the PC?

[Seran]

How is it possible for you to be this dumb & somehow still be capable of posting words on the PC?

How can your moments of lucid thinking so frequently be overwhelmed by your neediness to be loved by the conservative trolls?

[Suppressed Poet]

How can your moments of lucid thinking so frequently be overwhelmed by your neediness to be loved by the conservative trolls?

I’ll repay the compliment best I can to say that sometimes I witness you have moments of lucid thinking, but then you will go back to saying things completely unintelligible.

I’ve theorized before that you might just be a centrist or even a conservative that pretends to be an extreme leftist, but I’ve seen enough to discard that theory. As others have pointed out, what’s unique about you is that you are a diehard fully indoctrinated partisan. You aren’t motivated by liberal values or a core belief system, but rather that Democrats can do no wrong while Republicans are all evil.

I’m a Ford guy. I drive a F150, my wife has a Lincoln, and I own a classic Mustang & Lincoln. I can and will say Ford has made some shitty cars and there are lots of flaws with the company. I can say that GM, or Honda, or BMW, or (fill in the blank) has made some great cars that I can appreciate. There is really no need or desire for me to say Ford is the only great automotive manufacturer and all others suck ass. My best friend is a diehard GM enthusiast. I don’t seek affirmation and actually enjoy intelligent discussion on which of two motors are best, who won the muscle car wars, which new truck is a better value, etc. See how that works?

*Me calling you dumb in this instance is because it wasn’t PB that suggested or brought up class traitor. Go back and read the exchange between him and JoeyB. Your previous post that I quoted just looks foolish.

**One more sincere compliment your way is that your grammar is much improved lately.

[Realk]

I'd roll out in a Silverado over an F-150 all day,a Ram somewhere in the middle. IMHO in blue collar jobs which are the ones most in demand it seems, unions are an unneeded stress because they cant find people that want the jobs anyways. Super high sign on bonuses and retention bonuses, refferal, etc. Higher pay in most of the industries have seen. Inflation/Covid/Free money/Credit forgiveness/etc.. You really don't have to worry about your employees trying to form a union or join one.. If you have nobody walking in the door to try to work for you.

[Neveragain]

I’ll repay the compliment best I can to say that sometimes I witness you have moments of lucid thinking, but then you will go back to saying things completely unintelligible.

I’ve theorized before that you might just be a centrist or even a conservative that pretends to be an extreme leftist, but I’ve seen enough to discard that theory. As others have pointed out, what’s unique about you is that you are a diehard fully indoctrinated partisan. You aren’t motivated by liberal values or a core belief system, but rather that Democrats can do no wrong while Republicans are all evil.

I’m a Ford guy. I drive a F150, my wife has a Lincoln, and I own a classic Mustang & Lincoln. I can and will say Ford has made some shitty cars and there are lots of flaws with the company. I can say that GM, or Honda, or BMW, or (fill in the blank) has made some great cars that I can appreciate. There is really no need or desire for me to say Ford is the only great automotive manufacturer and all others suck ass. My best friend is a diehard GM enthusiast. I don’t seek affirmation and actually enjoy intelligent discussion on which of two motors are best, who won the muscle car wars, which new truck is a better value, etc. See how that works?

*Me calling you dumb in this instance is because it wasn’t PB that suggested or brought up class traitor. Go back and read the exchange between him and JoeyB. Your previous post that I quoted just looks foolish.

**One more sincere compliment your way is that your grammar is much improved lately.

Hard to say who would have won out in the muscle car race. It basically ended with the '70 SS Chevelle being the goat and then the government fucking it all up.

The whole distributor being at the front of the block looked bad to me as a teenager. The 350 small block was amazingly cheap to work on so there was really no other choice as a broke ass teen that wanted a muscle car.

The day the state of Iowa made me sell my Chevelle is probably one of top 5 worst days of my life.

[Suppressed Poet]

Hard to say who would have won out in the muscle car race. It basically ended with the '70 SS Chevelle being the goat and then the government fucking it all up.

The whole distributor being at the front of the block looked bad to me as a teenager. The 350 small block was amazingly cheap to work on so there was really no other choice as a broke ass teen that wanted a muscle car.

The day the state of Iowa made me sell my Chevelle is probably one of top 5 worst days of my life.

Chevelles are dope. I’m partial to Torinos but have never owned one. I’m biased but being as objective as I can SBCs (350) and the LS series are the best American motors ever made, followed by SBFs (Windsor 289/302/351s) and Coyote 5.0s. I think over the course of time Ford edges out on build quality, transmissions, and rear ends. Chrysler / Dodge was always the black sheep but also had some high spots and was the engineer’s automotive company.

I’m quite a bit younger, but in high school I drove a 1966 Mustang 289 that I hotrodded a bit. The summer of 2002 before my freshman year of college I parked her in front of my friend’s house and we took his car out that night. When we came back there was an ambulance in front of his house and the front of my Mustang was smashed to all hell. Some drunk girl hit it at high speed on a residential road. Frame was all bent to hell, cooling fan was driven into the radiator, and the fenders were crushed into the doors. It was totaled and not worth fixing. That was one of the saddest days of my life. I fucked in that car… 8 years ago though, I bought a 65 with the same color Wimbledon White with light blue interior. It’s in much better shape and faster/safer/cleaner than my old one ever was, but the few times a year I drive it I get to feel like a teenager again.

[Neveragain]

I fucked in that car…

I didn't have the SS, I had the Malibu. The front seat was a bench that may as well have been a bed, the interior of the '68-72 Chevelle's were enormous. Going to the drive-in in that thing with the girlfriends was a blast.

This is the exact car I had.

https://topclassiccarsforsale.com/uploads/photoalbum/1970-chevrolet-malibu-coupe-gold-6.jpg

[Parkbandit]

Class traitor? Last time I checked we didn't have a caste system in the United States, but if the Republican Party you support has implemented one, the rest of us would like to know.

I really hope you were drunk when you posted this.

Or high as fuck.

But something tells me you were completely sober.. and are just this.fucking.retarded.

[Suppressed Poet]

I didn't have the SS, I had the Malibu. The front seat was a bench that may as well have been a bed, the interior of the '68-72 Chevelle's were enormous. Going to the drive-in in that thing with the girlfriends was a blast.

This is the exact car I had.

https://topclassiccarsforsale.com/uploads/photoalbum/1970-chevrolet-malibu-coupe-gold-6.jpg

9986

I love that color with the black top. Beautiful. Bench seats are cooler and more practical than buckets in my opinion.

I got something that would dwarf that Chevelle in size… The other classic I own is a 71 Lincoln Continental Mark III (massive 2 door coupe with a 460 big block). There is enough room in the trunk to bang Lizzo.

It’s almost done. She drives great, but I can’t get the windows to roll down without blowing a fuse & the antique AC control box doesn’t work. That’s a problem in Texas with black leather interior. There is probably 200 pounds of vacuum lines and wiring in this old girl as it has power everything. I don’t have the patience or time to go through every wire to find the short(s) nor does my mechanic want to touch it. I need to find an old time automotive electric specialist, but just haven’t got around to it. It barely fits in my garage, but sure does look pretty.

[Methais]

Labor does not contribute to profits.

You can spend your whole life laboring to sculpt your own feces into a historically accurate sculpture of Karl Marx’s face, but nobody is going to want to buy that shit.

Or if someone's TDS is bad enough that they're willing to play with literal shit:

https://i.imgur.com/mHarwyB.jpg

[Neveragain]

9986

I love that color with the black top. Beautiful. Bench seats are cooler and more practical than buckets in my opinion.

I got something that would dwarf that Chevelle in size… The other classic I own is a 71 Lincoln Continental Mark III (massive 2 door coupe with a 460 big block). There is enough room in the trunk to bang Lizzo.

It’s almost done. She drives great, but I can’t get the windows to roll down without blowing a fuse & the antique AC control box doesn’t work. That’s a problem in Texas with black leather interior. There is probably 200 pounds of vacuum lines and wiring in this old girl as it has power everything. I don’t have the patience or time to go through every wire to find the short(s) nor does my mechanic want to touch it. I need to find an old time automotive electric specialist, but just haven’t got around to it. It barely fits in my garage, but sure does look pretty.


Those old Lincolns are gangster AF.