Florida to Replace Teachers with Veterans

[ClydeR]

Florida has 9,000 teacher vacancies it needs filled before the summer comes to a close and the new academic year begins. The state’s Department of Education announced last week that military veterans can now fill those roles.

More... (https://www.militarytimes.com/off-duty/military-culture/2022/07/26/florida-schools-to-let-veterans-teach-without-degrees/)


Veterans will now receive a five-year voucher that allows them to teach in the classroom without typical accreditation or the necessary education requirements that other certified teachers must possess.

The move is part of an $8.6 million statewide initiative to provide careers and workforce training to veterans and their dependents.

“We owe the freedoms we enjoy as Americans to our military veterans, and I am focused on ensuring Florida is the best state in the nation for those who have served to find great jobs, start or grow businesses and support their families,” said Florida Governor Ron DeSantis in a statement. “Business is booming in Florida, and employers are looking for the leadership skills, training and teamwork military veterans bring to the workforce.”

Is there any reason to think that veterans will be good at teaching?

[Gelston]

You're way behind on this story.

[ClydeR]

You're way behind on this story.

Is there a new development? I searched but could not find anything new.

[Gelston]

Is there a new development? I searched but could not find anything new.

Yes, the new development is that it has been talked out already since this policy came out two months ago.

[~Rocktar~]

Emergency teaching certifications have been around forever. Get a certificate, get a teaching mentor, take accelerated classes while teaching and in about a year, you graduate with a Masters in Education, a teaching certificate, a year of experience and a job. Big deal.

[ClydeR]

Florida has a doctor shortage too. They could solve it by giving veterans temporary doctor licenses.



In 2019, Florida was short nearly 4,000 physicians. By 2035, the physician shortage is expected to reach 18,000 due to a multitude of factors: population growth, an increased demand for medical attention from an aging population and physicians reaching retirement age.

More... (https://www.news-press.com/story/opinion/2022/06/05/physician-shortage-doctors-medical-care-solutions-strategy-future/7475292001/)

[Tgo01]

Florida has a doctor shortage too. They could solve it by giving veterans temporary doctor licenses.

We get it, you hate veterans, most Democrats do.

[Shaps]

I was in the military... I am an accredited instructor... Imagine having someone teach/instruct others that did it for 20+ years in real world scenarios... that developed, wrote, and edited coursework... that had to implement and ensure a proper educational/learning environment for personnel from all over the world...

I mean, who would ever want someone like that to teach others... right?

[~Rocktar~]

Florida has a doctor shortage too. They could solve it by giving veterans temporary doctor licenses.

False equivalence is false. One genuinely requires years of non-repetitive study and vast and diverse knowledge. The other requires about 36 semester hours of coursework of which about 12 hours are historical survey and irrelevant topics. Actual classes in education, how to teach and so forth are about 18 semester hours. If the Department of Education at my university hadn't been idiots, I could have tacked 1 year of classes onto my BS and had a BA in Education on top of my BS. But they chose being asses, could not answer basic questions like "Why do you have to take these in order over 2 years when they are not listed as pre-requisites for each other." There there is "Why do I need 2 semesters of teaching history and a semester of teaching music or PE (had to take one) when I will have a Science degree and am not in any way qualified or interested in either?" Yeah, wasn't the teaching shortage then like it is now but science was definitely in demand them.

I would rather have a veteran that wants to be in the classroom there than what they do now which is to pack classes to massive size or warehouse kids with babysitters (substitute teachers, many of which have less qualifications that what you are whining about).

[ClydeR]

This looks like a good time to post this video of Sam Kinison from SNL..



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHTaMMyK274
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHTaMMyK274

[Methais]

Florida has a doctor shortage too. They could solve it by giving veterans temporary doctor licenses.

Shut the fuck up ClydeRetard.

[Gelston]

Louisiana only requires a high school diploma to substitute teach. Only need a bachelor's to full time teach. Stop trying to compare it to being a medical doctor.

[Methais]

Louisiana only requires a high school diploma to substitute teach. Only need a bachelor's to full time teach. Stop trying to compare it to being a medical doctor.

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[Seizer]

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Home Economics?

[ClydeR]

Louisiana only requires a high school diploma to substitute teach. Only need a bachelor's to full time teach. Stop trying to compare it to being a medical doctor.

That's a fair, well-reasoned criticism. Let's try something less ambitious. There's also a veterinarian shortage. Veterans could be given licenses to be veterinarians. Veterinarian already sounds nearly the same as veteran, and I can't imagine that there is much learning required to be a vet, by which I mean veterinarian.


Hospitals, clinics, and vet offices around the U.S. in the past year have been turning animals away because they are short staffed. This crisis has hit all levels of the system, from general practice to specialists, but animal emergency rooms—where the job is most stressful—have it the worst. Veterinary staff told me of emergency hospitals closing overnight, owners being referred hundreds of miles away for an elusive open spot, and dogs with broken bones, a true emergency, waiting hours and hours to be seen. “When I have 17 patients in the hospital and there’s me and a doctor for 15 hours, I can’t take any more pets. Because I physically can’t do it,” Kristi Hulen, a vet tech in the Seattle area, told me.

More... (https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2022/07/not-enough-veterinarians-animals/661497/)

[Gelston]

That's a fair, well-reasoned criticism. Let's try something less ambitious. There's also a veterinarian shortage. Veterans could be given licenses to be veterinarians. Veterinarian already sounds nearly the same as veteran, and I can't imagine that there is much learning required to be a vet, by which I mean veterinarian.

Veterinarians also require an 8 year education and have the ability to write prescriptions. So no, not a better comparison. Kind of the same comparison.

[Methais]

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[~Rocktar~]

That's a fair, well-reasoned criticism. Let's try something less ambitious. There's also a veterinarian shortage. Veterans could be given licenses to be veterinarians. Veterinarian already sounds nearly the same as veteran, and I can't imagine that there is much learning required to be a vet, by which I mean veterinarian.

It's harder to be a vet than a human doctor due to the need to learn multiple species and the lack of communication. Keep being retarded. The issue is a whole generation of whiny, stupid and lazy children are going for free degrees in alcoholism, drug addiction, single motherhood and Liberal Arts rather than into things that are useful.

[Orthin]

It's harder to be a vet than a human doctor due to the need to learn multiple species and the lack of communication. Keep being retarded. The issue is a whole generation of whiny, stupid and lazy children are going for free degrees in alcoholism, drug addiction, single motherhood and Liberal Arts rather than into things that are useful.

Yup our large animal vet has to be in some capacity familiar with alpacas (and other camelids), goats, cattle, horses, pigs, sheep, and exotic animals. They are familiar with fowl too but if you have a sick chicken/duck/turkey unless you love it, its best to just let it go since TSC sells most of them for 50 cents a head in the spring