View Full Version : Trump was going have the US Military seize voting machines across the country
time4fun
01-21-2022, 01:53 PM
As an American, I never thought I would live to see the day where a sitting US President was ready to order the US Military to seize control of State voting machines after an election he lost, specifically in areas where he lost (https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/21/read-the-never-issued-trump-order-that-would-have-seized-voting-machines-527572).
I also never thought I'd see the day where my fellow Americans would be so dismissive or even supportive of this.
Trying to force state elections officials to change their vote tallies, sending in slates of fake electors to replace real electors in an effort to rig the certification count, sending an angry- and armed- mob to attack Congress and his own VP at the US Capitol while the election he lost was being certified, sowing doubt about the validity of our democratic elections before, during, and after they happened, filing dozens of frivolous election lawsuits in states he lost, and lobbying members of Congress to try to stop the certification of a free and fair election...
That's not what freedom and democracy look like. That's not what free and fair elections look like. It's what authoritarianism and corruption look like.
Anyone who tries to tell you that having the military intervene in an election and seize voting equipment in areas where the sitting President lost the vote, is freedom and justice has no interest in either of those things.
They just want power.
Accordingly, I hereby order:
(1) Effective immediately, the Secretary of Defense shall seize, collect, retain and analyze all
machines, equipment, electronically stored information, and material records required for
retention under United States Code Title 42, Sections 1974-1974(e), including but not limited to
those identified in footnote 1. The Secretary of Defense has discretion to determine the interdiction of
national critical infrastructure supporting federal elections. Designated locations
will be identified in the operation order.
(2) Within 7 days of commencement of operations, the initial assessment must be provided to the
Office of the Director of National Intelligence. The final assessment must be provided to the
Office of the Director of National Intelligence no later than 60 days from commencement of
operations.
(3) The Director of National Intelligence shall deliver this assessment and appropriate
supporting information to the President, the Secretary of State, the Secretary of the Treasury, the
Secretary of Defense, the Attorney General, and the Secretary of Homeland Security.
(4) A direct liaison to be authorized to coordinate as required between the applicable U.S.
Departments and Agencies.
(5) The Secretary of Defense may select by name or by unit federalization of appropriate
National Guard support.
(6) The Assistant Secretary of Defense for Homeland Security will coordinate support
requirements as needed from the Department of Homeland Security.
(7) The appointment of a Special Counsel to oversee this operation and institute all criminal
and civil proceedings as appropriate based on the evidence collected and provided all resources
necessary to carry out her duties consistent with federal laws and the Constitution.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-21-2022, 02:22 PM
reeeeeeeeeeeee
Bhaalizmo
01-21-2022, 02:48 PM
reeeeeeeeeeeee
Really diggin deep in the old bag of retorts there, eh.
Yup, he's literally a fascist and the rightoids will stick their head up their own asses so far they see daylight before they'll admit it.
Here, let me go ahead and write your responses, conservatives:
BLUH HUH HOO HOO HOO WE LOST THE ELECTION AND THE LEFT IS THE REAL FASCIST BECAUSE AUTHORITARIANISM BLUH HUH HOO HOO
Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-21-2022, 03:00 PM
Because it didn't happen. He thought about it, and didn't do it. Stop making shit up to overreact about it. Overreact about shit that happened.
SHAFT
01-21-2022, 03:26 PM
Because it didn't happen. He thought about it, and didn't do it. Stop making shit up to overreact about it. Overreact about shit that happened.
Normal people don’t consider shit like that. Brushing it aside like it’s no big deal shows how fucked up conservatives in this country are mentally. What a joke.
Because it didn't happen. He thought about it, and didn't do it. Stop making shit up to overreact about it. Overreact about shit that happened.
Yea it's cool guys he only thought about it so hard that he drafted an executive order to have it done.
Meanwhile, conservatives got outraged over a fucking tan suit and arugula.
SHAFT
01-21-2022, 03:27 PM
Yea it's cool guys he only thought about it so hard that he drafted an executive order to have it done.
Meanwhile, conservatives got outraged over a fucking tan suit and arugula.
Nothing more pathetic than QOP’ers. Complete lunacy.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-21-2022, 03:33 PM
You guys are nuts. Find any instance of me going off the deep end on something Biden, Obama or Clinton didn't do. Any instance of me jumping on the reactive bandwagon about a suit, arugula or any other non consequential twitterverse outrage. It's a year later and he's fucking rent free living in your head.
I'll get out of your echo chamber so you can scream together in peace.
Parkbandit
01-21-2022, 04:01 PM
If Seran or Backlash could pop in and give his 2 cents on the subject, we would have a 5 of a kind.
Haven't seen a 5 of a kind within 15 posts in forever.
Hope we get it.
time4fun
01-21-2022, 04:07 PM
Because it didn't happen. He thought about it, and didn't do it. Stop making shit up to overreact about it. Overreact about shit that happened.
No. A fully written Executive Order does not signal that he "thought about it". It tells you that he tried to do it, but fortunately there were still a few people around him who stopped him. A "mistake" that I have no doubt he'll "correct" if given another chance.
And that's the real story of the 2020 election. A sitting US President, his supporters, and his party tried in every way they could to end free and fair elections in this country in the name of "Election security". And the only reason why they didn't succeed is that- thankfully- we still had enough guardrails and good people in place to stop them. But barely.
And those people are getting ready to do it again this year, and a substantial percentage of our fellow Americans are all geared up to give them a real, fighting second chance with fewer guardrails in place and lots of lessons learned from the first time.
There's a reason why laws are being passed to give State Legislatures the power to remove nonpartisan election officials if they're not happy with the results of an election. There's a reason why OAN and Tucker Carlson are parading around Hungary's dictator Orban and telling you that we should be a lot more like them.
There's a reason why Trump is still running around intentionally spreading misinformation about our elections and why his party is so adamantly opposed to election reform.
Can we finally just be ready to acknowledge how far away from democracy we've gotten? Can we just be Americans and not Democrats and Republicans on this one subject?
Risen
01-21-2022, 04:20 PM
I seriously doubt former President Trump personally drafted either of these documents mentioned in the news article. I would believe easily that various staffers working to provide him with all possible options did the draft editing. Even just reading the disparities in tone between the two documents suggests to me two completely different authors.Any sitting President needs all options on the table for crisis events. The fact that it was considered may seem outrageous to many. Me - I'd rather know that all options were considered in any given crisis, and the best options were chosen for action. Do not make the mistake of presuming that means I would support the draft Executive Order as written.
beldannon5
01-21-2022, 04:45 PM
He's gone for now. Get over it. Enjoy $4 dollar gas soon. Thanks
time4fun
01-21-2022, 04:50 PM
I seriously doubt former President Trump personally drafted either of these documents mentioned in the news article. I would believe easily that various staffers working to provide him with all possible options did the draft editing. Even just reading the disparities in tone between the two documents suggests to me two completely different authors.Any sitting President needs all options on the table for crisis events. The fact that it was considered may seem outrageous to many. Me - I'd rather know that all options were considered in any given crisis, and the best options were chosen for action. Do not make the mistake of presuming that means I would support the draft Executive Order as written.
I mean you're correct that Presidents never write their own EOs. They require sophisticated legal knowledge to author. Leaving aside the fact that this EO is completely in line with Trump's obsession with overturning the results of the election at all costs, what you're positing isn't remotely plausible.
The very notion that a staffer would just elect to draft an official order to have the US Military seize control of voting machines in areas where Trump lost the vote without getting Trump's buy-in is beyond absurd. We're talking about a military intervention into an American election because the sitting President wants a different outcome
Doing that on your own volition would get you fired on the spot or even potentially worse. These things are a matter of record, and prior to 2020 apparently, that's exactly the kind of thing that destroys an administration and potentially lands people in Court. You would NEVER risk having that on the Administration's record unless you knew the President wanted it to happen.
I'll also point out that this was widely reported on months ago. Trump himself lobbied for this idea, among other equally disturbing options, to help overturn the election. Gulliani (https://www.axios.com/giuliani-homeland-security-seize-voting-machines-4ee2e575-e32c-46a2-9f0b-fd80dd63049c.html) even went to DHS to ask them to do it.
You actually think he would do something like that without authorization?
The fact that you're making excuses for this is concerning.
I mean you're correct that Presidents never write their own EOs. They require sophisticated legal knowledge to author. Leaving aside the fact that this EO is completely in line with Trump's obsession with overturning the results of the election at all costs, what you're positing isn't remotely plausible.
The very notion that a staffer would just elect to draft an official order to have the US Military seize control of voting machines in areas where Trump lost the vote without getting Trump's buy-in is beyond absurd. We're talking about a military intervention into an American election because the sitting President wants a different outcome
Doing that on your own volition would get you fired on the spot or even potentially worse. These things are a matter of record, and prior to 2020 apparently, that's exactly the kind of thing that destroys an administration and potentially lands people in Court. You would NEVER risk having that on the Administration's record unless you knew the President wanted it to happen.
I'll also point out that this was widely reported on months ago. Trump himself lobbied for this idea, among other equally disturbing options, to help overturn the election. Gulliani (https://www.axios.com/giuliani-homeland-security-seize-voting-machines-4ee2e575-e32c-46a2-9f0b-fd80dd63049c.html) even went to DHS to ask them to do it.
You actually think he would do something like that without authorization?
The fact that you're making excuses for this is concerning.
It sure is nice to see someone posting things that make sense once in a while! To answer your earlier question, no I don't think the folks in here can just be Americans.
They've tried to paint me as a Democrat ever since I started posting in their little circlejerk, and I've been criticizing Biden and the centrist Democratic party the whole time. They don't know how to deal with that, so they just call me stupid or gay or some other playground insult like their role model Trump.
Seran
01-21-2022, 05:02 PM
As an American, I never thought I would live to see the day where a sitting US President was ready to order the US Military to seize control of State voting machines after an election he lost, specifically in areas where he lost (https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/21/read-the-never-issued-trump-order-that-would-have-seized-voting-machines-527572).
I also never thought I'd see the day where my fellow Americans would be so dismissive or even supportive of this.
Trying to force state elections officials to change their vote tallies, sending in slates of fake electors to replace real electors in an effort to rig the certification count, sending an angry- and armed- mob to attack Congress and his own VP at the US Capitol while the election he lost was being certified, sowing doubt about the validity of our democratic elections before, during, and after they happened, filing dozens of frivolous election lawsuits in states he lost, and lobbying members of Congress to try to stop the certification of a free and fair election...
That's not what freedom and democracy look like. That's not what free and fair elections look like. It's what authoritarianism and corruption look like.
Anyone who tries to tell you that having the military intervene in an election and seize voting equipment in areas where the sitting President lost the vote, is freedom and justice has no interest in either of those things.
They just want power.
The fact that one of Trump's attorneys wrote this draft executive order should be terrifying to everyone. It also explains why Esper was fired as Secretary of Defense and that William Barr left as Attorney General immediately following the election, they refused to get involved with this coup.
Absolutely not surprising that the Conservatives of the group are downplaying this so fiercely. Why pay attention to a Republican president's attempted coup when they're still trying to investigate Hillary Clinton for Benghazi
Seran
01-21-2022, 05:04 PM
I seriously doubt former President Trump personally drafted either of these documents mentioned in the news article. I would believe easily that various staffers working to provide him with all possible options did the draft editing. Even just reading the disparities in tone between the two documents suggests to me two completely different authors.Any sitting President needs all options on the table for crisis events. The fact that it was considered may seem outrageous to many. Me - I'd rather know that all options were considered in any given crisis, and the best options were chosen for action. Do not make the mistake of presuming that means I would support the draft Executive Order as written.
Donald Trump losing a free and fair election isn't a crisis event to anyone but Donald Trump.
beldannon5
01-21-2022, 05:33 PM
Donald Trump losing a free and fair election isn't a crisis event to anyone but Donald Trump.
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Tgo01
01-21-2022, 07:07 PM
It’s been over a year now. You people really need to get over your TDS already.
It’s been over a year now. You people really need to get over your TDS already.
Meanwhile you are posting about literally everything Biden does. Pot, meet mirror.
Shaps
01-21-2022, 07:53 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/now/hillary-clinton-maintains-2016-election-160716779.html
"Hillary Clinton Maintains 2016 Election ‘Was Not On the Level’: ‘We Still Don’t Know What Really Happened’"
THE BIG LIE!!!! IMPEACH HER!!! She is against democracy!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBYnJh45WS8
"Elizabeth Warren says 2016 Democratic primary was rigged"
OMG! The Democratic Primary was rigged!! Elizabeth Warren hates democracy!
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/06/bernie-sanders-2016-rigged-wont-pledge-support-winner.html
"Sanders Claims 2016 Primary Was Rigged, Won’t Commit to Supporting Winner"
HOLY SHIT! The election was rigged??? Bernie Sanders hates America and is trying to undermine it!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2005/06/23/democrats-say-2004-election-system-failed-in-ohio/8dbf3124-3aa2-4af5-abbd-51338f9f9273/
"Democrats Say 2004 Election System Failed in Ohio"
WTF??? The Democrats don't believe in the election system???
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/23/hillary-clinton-election-vote-recount-michigan-pennsylvania-wisconsin
"Hillary Clinton urged to call for election vote recount in battleground states"
WHOA??? I thought questioning the elections was un-American??? That bitch!
I could go on and on.. but yea...
Shaps
01-21-2022, 07:54 PM
Meanwhile you are posting about literally everything Biden does. Pot, meet mirror.
Biden is the President... pot, meet face.
Seran
01-21-2022, 08:22 PM
It’s been over a year now. You people really need to get over your TDS already.
That is funny. New damning evidence of the Trump Coup comes out and suddenly everyone needs to move on, LOL. Maybe you ought to take your former savior's high crimes seriously.
Gelston
01-21-2022, 08:49 PM
That is funny. New damning evidence of the Trump Coup comes out and suddenly everyone needs to move on, LOL. Maybe you ought to take your former savior's high crimes seriously.
It isn't a coup if nothing happened.
Tgo01
01-21-2022, 08:49 PM
That is funny. New damning evidence of the Trump Coup comes out and suddenly everyone needs to move on, LOL. Maybe you ought to take your former savior's high crimes seriously.
What coup? You mean where the cop murdered an innocent woman and no one else was killed and Trump didn’t order the military to do anything? Such coup!
Seran
01-21-2022, 09:58 PM
It isn't a coup if nothing happened.
That is why it's a coup, because it happened.
Suppressed Poet
01-21-2022, 10:08 PM
That is why it's a coup, because it happened.
Not even close. At worst it was a school field trip that was poorly chaperoned.
Seran
01-21-2022, 10:22 PM
What coup? You mean where the cop murdered an innocent woman and no one else was killed and Trump didn’t order the military to do anything? Such coup!
You keep telling yourself that if it helps your sleep. Meanwhile, most of the country doesn't accept using force to try and interrupt the certification of the presidential vote as being acceptable. Can't wait to see those Proud Boy thugs do televised trials where their sedition is laid out.
Tgo01
01-22-2022, 03:10 AM
What's especially funny about this latest bit of Democrat meltdown is:
A) This was just a draft.
B) No one knows who wrote it or if Trump himself even ever saw the draft.
C) The order was never implemented.
D) This was all well over a year ago and they still can't let it go, even though at most there were no deaths (other than the one protester who was murdered by police), not that much property damage when compared to the dozens of murders and billions in property damage during the Democrat-led riots during Trump's time in office, riots which were downplayed as being "mostly peaceful" riots even while they were in progress.
But much like the Russian collusion, the virus being all Trump's fault but not Biden's fault, Russian bounties, and hundreds of other things that Democrats and the media have lied about over the past several years, facts don't seem to matter to the left anymore.
Tgo01
01-22-2022, 03:11 AM
sending an angry- and armed- mob
Who was armed again? I mean besides the police who murdered a woman.
Neveragain
01-22-2022, 06:45 AM
As an American, I never thought I would live to see the day where a sitting US President was ready to order the US Military to seize control of State voting machines after an election he lost, specifically in areas where he lost (https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/21/read-the-never-issued-trump-order-that-would-have-seized-voting-machines-527572).
I also never thought I'd see the day where my fellow Americans would be so dismissive or even supportive of this.
Trying to force state elections officials to change their vote tallies, sending in slates of fake electors to replace real electors in an effort to rig the certification count, sending an angry- and armed- mob to attack Congress and his own VP at the US Capitol while the election he lost was being certified, sowing doubt about the validity of our democratic elections before, during, and after they happened, filing dozens of frivolous election lawsuits in states he lost, and lobbying members of Congress to try to stop the certification of a free and fair election...
That's not what freedom and democracy look like. That's not what free and fair elections look like. It's what authoritarianism and corruption look like.
Anyone who tries to tell you that having the military intervene in an election and seize voting equipment in areas where the sitting President lost the vote, is freedom and justice has no interest in either of those things.
They just want power.
United States Code Title 42, Sections 1974-1974(e),
You really should just stick to being a GS4 credit card warrior.
Your track record of being correct on the subject of politics is elementary at best.
Parkbandit
01-22-2022, 07:27 AM
The fact that one of Trump's attorneys wrote this draft executive order should be terrifying to everyone.
It also explains why Esper was fired as Secretary of Defense and that William Barr left as Attorney General immediately following the election, they refused to get involved with this coup.
Absolutely not surprising that the Conservatives of the group are downplaying this so fiercely. Why pay attention to a Republican president's attempted coup when they're still trying to investigate Hillary Clinton for Benghazi
And boom. 5 of a kind!
Nicely done.
Also, if you are terrified by something like this.. you should get on stronger medication.
I haven't seen a guy this unhinged with emotion since cwolff stopped posting here.
Parkbandit
01-22-2022, 07:30 AM
Not even close. At worst it was a school field trip that was poorly chaperoned.
Exactly.
But that doesn't promote the agenda the Democrats need with their emotionally challenged base.. so they call it "ZOMG INSURRECTION!" or "IT'S A MODERN DAY COUP!"... and people like time4fun and Seran gobble it up and regurgitate it all over the place.
time4fun
01-22-2022, 09:40 AM
You really should just stick to being a GS4 credit card warrior.
Your track record of being correct on the subject of politics is elementary at best.
Oh that's hilarious.
I warned you when he was still a candidate that Trump was an authoritarian who wasn't going to give up power easily and who had no interest in democracy.
You cackled like a hyena and told me how crazy I was.
And five years later, look at what happened. And look at how anti-democratic, and pro-authoritarian you've become because of him.
Parkbandit
01-22-2022, 09:57 AM
and people like time4fun and Seran gobble it up and regurgitate it all over the place.
Oh that's hilarious.
I warned you when he was still a candidate that Trump was an authoritarian who wasn't going to give up power easily and who had no interest in democracy.
You cackled like a hyena and told me how crazy I was.
And five years later, look at what happened. And look at how anti-democratic, and pro-authoritarian you've become because of him.
Do you even understand the term "authoritarian"... because it doesn't seem like you do.
Seran
01-22-2022, 11:37 AM
You really should just stick to being a GS4 credit card warrior.
Your track record of being correct on the subject of politics is elementary at best.
What is there to be correct about? It's a draft executive order that was written by one of Trump's attorney and was finally turned over to the January 6th committee after a fierce fight by Trump. As much as you seem to think attacking a poster is (and it isn't effective btw), it doesn't change the fact his administration wrote a blueprint to a coup.
Parkbandit
01-22-2022, 11:53 AM
What is there to be correct about? It's a draft executive order that was written by one of Trump's attorney and was finally turned over to the January 6th committee after a fierce fight by Trump. As much as you seem to think attacking a poster is (and it isn't effective btw), it doesn't change the fact his administration wrote a blueprint to a coup.
You poor thing.. you must be terrified.
https://c.tenor.com/h8ad3vDGSr0AAAAM/laughing-laughter.gif
Suppressed Poet
01-22-2022, 12:09 PM
You cackled like a hyena and told me how crazy I was.
I think you got PB mixed up with Kamala Harris…
Seran
01-22-2022, 12:15 PM
You poor thing.. you must be terrified.
And you must be stoned to think that the Republican party undermining free elections in our country and a sitting president like Trump trying to enjoin the military in a coup isn't a serious threat. Trump's trashing of the election system in the lead up to the 2020 vote had a definitive impact on Republican turnout in key swing states. Causing him to lose the election by a landslide.
Neveragain
01-22-2022, 01:01 PM
Oh that's hilarious.
I warned you when he was still a candidate that Trump was an authoritarian who wasn't going to give up power easily and who had no interest in democracy.
You cackled like a hyena and told me how crazy I was.
And five years later, look at what happened. And look at how anti-democratic, and pro-authoritarian you've become because of him.
Remember waaaay back in January of 2017 when Democrats rioted and pillaged (and continued to riot and pillage for 5 straight years) in the streets of DC, talking about wanting to blow up the Whitehouse, would mark the end of the "peaceful transfer of power"?
But that was private property and we know how todays "Democrat" party feels about private property.
You really need to stop letting your hysterics guide you. :biggrin:
Seran
01-22-2022, 01:38 PM
Remember waaaay back in January of 2017 when Democrats rioted and pillaged (and continued to riot and pillage for 5 straight years) in the streets of DC, talking about wanting to blow up the Whitehouse, would mark the end of the "peaceful transfer of power"?
But that was private property and we know how todays "Democrat" party feels about private property.
You really need to stop letting your hysterics guide you. :biggrin:
A total of 217 people were arrested in connection with the protests, according to DC Interim Police Chief Peter Newsham. Mr Newsham claimed the protests caused “significant damage to a number of blocks in our city.” The US Attorney's Office for DC later estimated the damage at more than $100,000.
Less than $200,000 in damage in those protests. Versus how many millions when Trump tried to start a coup and his guided followers raided Congress?
Gelston
01-22-2022, 04:43 PM
That is why it's a coup, because it happened.
Oh, is Trump the President? I wasn't aware he led a coup.
Seran
01-22-2022, 07:21 PM
Oh, is Trump the President? I wasn't aware he led a coup.
An attempted coup which failed as the overrunning of the capital didn't result in Pence refusing to certify, the Joint Chiefs were steadfast against it. Trump tried, failed, and will be enjoying a prison term as a result.
Parkbandit
01-22-2022, 10:33 PM
I think you got PB mixed up with Kamala Harris…
She wasn't responding to me.
Do you require someone to help you navigate through this forum again?
Parkbandit
01-22-2022, 10:34 PM
And you must be stoned to think that the Republican party undermining free elections in our country and a sitting president like Trump trying to enjoin the military in a coup isn't a serious threat.
For a coup attempt.. you would think they would at least be armed.
What were they going to do... yell at them until they gave up?
Trump's trashing of the election system in the lead up to the 2020 vote had a definitive impact on Republican turnout in key swing states. Causing him to lose the election by a landslide.
We will see how this year turns out... as well as 2024.
I just don't want you to be terrified because you have no control over your emotions. Have you leveled out your meds yet?
Parkbandit
01-22-2022, 10:36 PM
An attempted coup which failed as the overrunning of the capital didn't result in Pence refusing to certify, the Joint Chiefs were steadfast against it. Trump tried, failed, and will be enjoying a prison term as a result.
"It was a coup!"
"It was an attempted coup!"
"It was an insurrection!"
These are the words of a lunatic with major emotional control issues.
These are the words of our Retard Champion, Seran.
Gelston
01-23-2022, 04:58 AM
An attempted coup which failed as the overrunning of the capital didn't result in Pence refusing to certify, the Joint Chiefs were steadfast against it. Trump tried, failed, and will be enjoying a prison term as a result.
You said it was a coup. Not an attempted coup.
Also, a bunch of people vandalizing a building is hardly a coup attempt. If you honestly think there was a snowflake's chance in hell that like 2,500 people were going to overthrow the entire US Government, you are a useful idiot.
Keep crying about what "didn't" happen though. For fucks sake, it is almost as if you wish he had attempted a coup.
And when Trump doesn't go to prison for things he didn't do, are you going to stfu? Or are you going to blame the Justice system or some shit?
Tgo01
01-23-2022, 05:01 AM
If you honestly think there was a snowflake's chance in hell that like 2,500 people were going to overthrow the entire US Government, you are a useful idiot.
Don't be silly. Everyone knows whoever occupies the Senate chamber is de facto the king of the US.
Seran
01-23-2022, 01:57 PM
You said it was a coup. Not an attempted coup.
Also, a bunch of people vandalizing a building is hardly a coup attempt. If you honestly think there was a snowflake's chance in hell that like 2,500 people were going to overthrow the entire US Government, you are a useful idiot.
Keep crying about what "didn't" happen though. For fucks sake, it is almost as if you wish he had attempted a coup.
And when Trump doesn't go to prison for things he didn't do, are you going to stfu? Or are you going to blame the Justice system or some shit?
And yet you've seen the written plan of the Trump administration to throw enough doubt into the election results to force a House of Representatives vote in lieu of the electoral college, which he knew he'd win. That was the plan all along, sew chaos until they won.
Gelston
01-23-2022, 01:59 PM
And yet you've seen the written plan of the Trump administration to throw enough doubt into the election results to force a House of Representatives vote in lieu of the electoral college, which he knew he'd win. That was the plan all along, sew chaos until they won.
You are sounding dumber than those Qanon idiots now.
Tgo01
01-23-2022, 02:01 PM
Imagine worrying about something that never happened more than a year after it never happened.
Suppressed Poet
01-23-2022, 02:42 PM
Imagine worrying about something that never happened more than a year after it never happened.
Perhaps it’s like…will the release of Top Gun: Maverick be as homosexually inclusive as the original film?
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Neveragain
01-23-2022, 02:56 PM
Less than $200,000 in damage in those protests. Versus how many millions when Trump tried to start a coup and his guided followers raided Congress?
"It's totes OK when we do it, it's only private property anyway." ~ Seran the Bolshevik
I just love the logic of "I wasn't successful at doing the crime, so it wasn't a crime!" That's about as Trumpian as it gets.
Gelston
01-23-2022, 05:34 PM
I just love the logic of "I wasn't successful at doing the crime, so it wasn't a crime!" That's about as Trumpian as it gets.
It is more like "No crime was committed, so it wasn't a crime".
It is more like "No crime was committed, so it wasn't a crime".
To me it looks more like "I tried to do a crime but then my handlers decided it was a bit too blatantly fascist so they stopped me."
Gelston
01-23-2022, 05:54 PM
To me it looks more like "I tried to do a crime but then my handlers decided it was a bit too blatantly fascist so they stopped me."
It is only illegal if you actually commit a crime. Otherwise, like, there wasn't a crime.
Seran
01-23-2022, 10:23 PM
"It's totes OK when we do it, it's only private property anyway." ~ Seran the Bolshevik
You can cry a little more since your comparison wasn't accurate at all.
Seran
01-23-2022, 10:24 PM
Imagine worrying about something that never happened more than a year after it never happened.
Oh I'm sorry, would you have preferred less study, review of materials and a detailed and non-rushed review of the coup attempt? Go to bed grandpa.
Gelston
01-23-2022, 10:39 PM
Oh I'm sorry, would you have preferred less study, review of materials and a detailed and non-rushed review of the coup attempt? Go to bed grandpa.
Third world countries are offended by your use of coup.
Tgo01
01-24-2022, 03:51 AM
Oh I'm sorry, would you have preferred less study, review of materials and a detailed and non-rushed review of the coup attempt? Go to bed grandpa.
It’s just pretty amazing you’re getting this worked up over something that never happened yet when actually Democrat led insurrections were happening all over the country you didn’t care and still don’t care. Almost as if you’re nothing but a partisan shill.
Parkbandit
01-24-2022, 07:56 AM
It’s just pretty amazing you’re getting this worked up over something that never happened yet when actually Democrat led insurrections were happening all over the country you didn’t care and still don’t care. Almost as if you’re nothing but a partisan shill.
What in Seran's posting history here, makes this "pretty amazing" that he's terrified by this?
I'm not surprised that someone like time4fun posted it and Seran is now hiding under his bed because of it.
At all.
Tgo01
01-24-2022, 08:00 AM
What in Seran's posting history here, makes this "pretty amazing" that he's terrified by this?
I'm not surprised that someone like time4fun posted it and Seran is now hiding under his bed because of it.
At all.
Touche. I suppose this really shouldn't surprise me at all.
Neveragain
01-24-2022, 09:21 AM
You can cry a little more since your comparison wasn't accurate at all.
Me after Democrats rioted in DC on inauguration day in 2017: "This is the end of the peaceful transfer of power."
PC Democrats: "Nuh, uh. You racist!"
PC Democrats after 2021 DC riots: "What about the peaceful transfer of power?"
Me: "I hate to tell you I told you so, but.....I told you so."
Seran the Bolshevik: Nuh, uh! You racist!
Bhaalizmo
01-24-2022, 09:31 AM
Me after Democrats rioted in DC on inauguration day in 2017: "This is the end of the peaceful transfer of power."
PC Democrats: "Nuh, uh. You racist!"
PC Democrats after 2021 DC riots: "What about the peaceful transfer of power?"
Me: "I hate to tell you I told you so, but.....I told you so."
Seran the Bolshevik: Nuh, uh! You racist!
https://c.tenor.com/rYSBKEcela4AAAAC/sure-klan.gif
Do you eat a box of dumb flakes with stupid milk every day?
Asking for PB & TG.
Tgo01
01-24-2022, 09:39 AM
Do you eat a box of dumb flakes with stupid milk every day?
Asking for PB & TG.
Work on your insults. I actually cringed when I read this and now I feel bad for mocking you :(
Parkbandit
01-24-2022, 10:04 AM
Work on your insults. I actually cringed when I read this and now I feel bad for mocking you :(
Retarded and unoriginal is the sandbox where Bhaalizmo eats his own boogers.
Wrathbringer
01-24-2022, 10:18 AM
Retarded and unoriginal is the sandbox where Bhaalizmo eats his own boogers.
And also where Gelston stands in the background telling anyone that will listen that you can't prove that they were ever his boogers once they've broken the plane of his nostrils so it's okay.
Gelston
01-24-2022, 10:33 AM
And also where Gelston stands in the background telling anyone that will listen that you can't prove that they were ever his boogers once they've broken the plane of his nostrils so it's okay.
Uh, k.
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