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Flap
11-16-2021, 08:37 AM
How long are y'all conservative bros gonna sit in here and lovingly stroke each others' political prowess? This is a real cozy safe space you guys have here.

LOL BRIELUS
11-16-2021, 10:30 AM
Lol Chinese/Russian troll bot, good one

Flap
11-16-2021, 03:00 PM
Lol Chinese/Russian troll bot, good one

100%

Hello fellow America would you like to induge in some baseball apple pie hotdog, and how about those Clintons huh!

Kyulen
11-17-2021, 12:08 AM
There's a few liberals for them to argue with and mostly insult, but for the most part this politics subforum is a bunch of conservatives agreeing with each other about everything. I think I'm the only actual socialist who tried to reason with them, and I've pretty much given that up since it's become clear to me that it's pointless to reason with these idiots.

~Rocktar~
11-17-2021, 12:45 AM
There's a few liberals for them to argue with and mostly insult, but for the most part this politics subforum is a bunch of conservatives agreeing with each other about everything. I think I'm the only actual socialist who tried to reason with them, and I've pretty much given that up since it's become clear to me that it's pointless to reason with these idiots.

LOL someone says they are a socialist and then says they use reason. That's a huge laugh in the face of real facts, evidence and rational thought.

Tgo01
11-17-2021, 01:17 AM
I think I'm the only actual socialist who tried to reason with them

You probably are. The likes of Seran and time4fun just pretend to be socialists.


and I've pretty much given that up since it's become clear to me that it's pointless to reason with these idiots.

I mean...there isn't much to reason with when it comes to actual socialists. We keep pretending socialism works when we have many examples to show it doesn't work.

Parkbandit
11-17-2021, 07:50 AM
There's a few liberals for them to argue with and mostly insult, but for the most part this politics subforum is a bunch of conservatives agreeing with each other about everything. I think I'm the only actual socialist who tried to reason with them, and I've pretty much given that up since it's become clear to me that it's pointless to reason with these idiots.

It's like you wanted to make the most ironic post possible in this thread.

And you totally pulled it off.

I know you don't understand... but well done.

Flap
11-17-2021, 08:08 AM
9820

Flap
11-17-2021, 08:13 AM
My favorite flavor of conservative is the kind that calls their opposition stupid and then completely fails to demonstrate why that's true...over...and over...and over. Any time you true to pursue logic and try to engage in good faith debate you are suddenly on an ever-expanding playing field until the goalposts are soon no longer visible. All of a sudden you're in a fantasy land where you can trust evil people to not do evil things because it will be bad for them in the long run!

audioserf
11-17-2021, 08:16 AM
9820

please do not post pictures of me without my permission, thank you

Flap
11-17-2021, 08:33 AM
please do not post pictures of me without my permission, thank you

9821

Flap
11-17-2021, 08:41 AM
In case you wondered why no conservative is funny (https://youtu.be/KSXKzPOcYDU)

audioserf
11-17-2021, 08:45 AM
In case you wondered why no conservative is funny (https://youtu.be/KSXKzPOcYDU)

absolutely nobody has ever watched that lmao it's a fuckin hour long come on

Flap
11-17-2021, 08:53 AM
absolutely nobody has ever watched that lmao it's a fuckin hour long come on

It's a good time! I promise.

time4fun
11-17-2021, 10:43 AM
LOL someone says they are a socialist and then says they use reason. That's a huge laugh in the face of real facts, evidence and rational thought.

This would hold more weight if you hadn't spent years consistently demonstrating that you have no idea what socialism -or even Marxism- is.

Parkbandit
11-17-2021, 11:11 AM
So, who or what triggered you so much Flap?

Flap
11-17-2021, 01:03 PM
So, who or what triggered you so much Flap?

Man I was just thinkin'bout Gemstone and decided to stop in. What's going on in your world?

Parkbandit
11-17-2021, 04:14 PM
Man I was just thinkin'bout Gemstone and decided to stop in. What's going on in your world?

Getting ready to take a week off for Thanksgiving and be with family and friends.

Trying to get everything caught up prior to the end of the year... I have to have everything in by December 17th or it gets pushed into 2022.

Closing on another property in December I hope.

Getting ready to decorate the building for Christmas.

Got my puppy's allergy test back... like how the hell can he be allergic to rice, pumpkin and peanut butter!? Do you have any idea how many dog foods have rice in them!?

Flap
11-17-2021, 05:02 PM
Getting ready to take a week off for Thanksgiving and be with family and friends.

Trying to get everything caught up prior to the end of the year... I have to have everything in by December 17th or it gets pushed into 2022.

Closing on another property in December I hope.

Getting ready to decorate the building for Christmas.

Got my puppy's allergy test back... like how the hell can he be allergic to rice, pumpkin and peanut butter!? Do you have any idea how many dog foods have rice in them!?

Nice. I'm off next week m'self! Sounds like you need a refund on that pupper!

Parkbandit
11-17-2021, 06:36 PM
Nice. I'm off next week m'self! Sounds like you need a refund on that pupper!

No way. He's family now.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/768576624349544498/828978318434893844/image0.jpg

~Rocktar~
11-18-2021, 02:41 AM
This would hold more weight if you hadn't spent years consistently demonstrating that you have no idea what socialism -or even Marxism- is.

Your comments might hold weight if you weren't so full of shit that the whites of your eyes have turned brown and hadn't spent the last 5+ years spewing off uncounted pages of abject garbage trying to impress everyone with your lame ass google-fu and attempts at seeming intelligent by covering your malicious word vomit with multisyllabic vocabulary and egalitarian tripe. Anyone who ever claims they use logic and reason to justify the most failed political and economic system on the planet clearly is lying. Your comment is nothing more than your lack of any real argument reflected in a poor excuse for an ad homonym attack. Now take your batshit insane, 437 fake PhD so I can attempt internet cred and get the actual fuck out you dumb cunt.

~Rocktar~
11-18-2021, 02:42 AM
No way. He's family now.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/768576624349544498/828978318434893844/image0.jpg

Cute pupper. Not sure how big he will grow, depending on that, you might look into the various fresh foods. They tend to not need as much as you might think and are less likely to have allergens in them.

time4fun
11-18-2021, 03:06 AM
Your comments might hold weight if you weren't so full of shit that the whites of your eyes have turned brown and hadn't spent the last 5+ years spewing off uncounted pages of abject garbage trying to impress everyone with your lame ass google-fu and attempts at seeming intelligent by covering your malicious word vomit with multisyllabic vocabulary and egalitarian tripe. Anyone who ever claims they use logic and reason to justify the most failed political and economic system on the planet clearly is lying. Your comment is nothing more than your lack of any real argument reflected in a poor excuse for an ad homonym attack. Now take your batshit insane, 437 fake PhD so I can attempt internet cred and get the actual fuck out you dumb cunt.

As usual, there was no actual substance to your argument. You're just saying random things in an obvious ad hominem strategy. Which is gutsy given how you ended it.

You did manage once again to show everyone you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about when it comes to Socialism and Marxism.

Tell us again how BLM is a Marxist movement. I do love that one.

Shaps
11-18-2021, 04:29 AM
T4Fun - you are just an idiot. Please just STFU at this point.

https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-co-founder-describes-herself-as-trained-marxist/

"Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors said in a newly surfaced video from 2015 that she and her fellow organizers are “trained Marxists” – making clear their movement’s ideological foundation, according to a report."

"“We are trained Marxists. We are super-versed on, sort of, ideological theories. And I think that what we really tried to do is build a movement that could be utilized by many, many black folk,” Cullors added in the interview with Jared Ball of The Real News Network."

Just GTFO already. We know you're an ideologue that will believe anything that supports your narrative, even when the people you support are what they say they are - you will ignore it. You're a puppet, a rube, an ignoramus, (insert whatever other word you want here).

Flap
11-18-2021, 07:26 AM
T4Fun - you are just an idiot. Please just STFU at this point.

https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-co-founder-describes-herself-as-trained-marxist/

"Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors said in a newly surfaced video from 2015 that she and her fellow organizers are “trained Marxists” – making clear their movement’s ideological foundation, according to a report."

"“We are trained Marxists. We are super-versed on, sort of, ideological theories. And I think that what we really tried to do is build a movement that could be utilized by many, many black folk,” Cullors added in the interview with Jared Ball of The Real News Network."

Just GTFO already. We know you're an ideologue that will believe anything that supports your narrative, even when the people you support are what they say they are - you will ignore it. You're a puppet, a rube, an ignoramus, (insert whatever other word you want here).

Lol you actually took the bait? Amazing. I'm so glad I decided to stop in here <3

Flap
11-18-2021, 07:31 AM
Your comments might hold weight if you weren't so full of shit that the whites of your eyes have turned brown and hadn't spent the last 5+ years spewing off uncounted pages of abject garbage trying to impress everyone with your lame ass google-fu and attempts at seeming intelligent by covering your malicious word vomit with multisyllabic vocabulary and egalitarian tripe. Anyone who ever claims they use logic and reason to justify the most failed political and economic system on the planet clearly is lying. Your comment is nothing more than your lack of any real argument reflected in a poor excuse for an ad homonym attack. Now take your batshit insane, 437 fake PhD so I can attempt internet cred and get the actual fuck out you dumb cunt.

100% don't demonstrate that you know what socialism actually is. 100% keep employing the exact tactics you're accusing your opponent of. Keep it up, you're doing so well!

time4fun
11-18-2021, 09:36 AM
T4Fun - you are just an idiot. Please just STFU at this point.

https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-co-founder-describes-herself-as-trained-marxist/

"Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors said in a newly surfaced video from 2015 that she and her fellow organizers are “trained Marxists” – making clear their movement’s ideological foundation, according to a report."

"“We are trained Marxists. We are super-versed on, sort of, ideological theories. And I think that what we really tried to do is build a movement that could be utilized by many, many black folk,” Cullors added in the interview with Jared Ball of The Real News Network."

Just GTFO already. We know you're an ideologue that will believe anything that supports your narrative, even when the people you support are what they say they are - you will ignore it. You're a puppet, a rube, an ignoramus, (insert whatever other word you want here).

ROFL

So leaving aside the fact that BLM is a loose network of independent formal and informal organizations with no leadership, and therefore the (hilarious) words of one early member of the original political activity in no way speak for the movement, let's get down to the point here.

What was Marx's position on racism and racial equality? And how does that align with BLM's goals and philosophies?

Parkbandit
11-18-2021, 09:42 AM
time4fun: Tell us again how BLM is a Marxist movement.
Shaps: "Ok, here are some quotes"
time4fun: THOSE DON'T COUNT!

time4fun.. you should tell him that you have a cousin or a step brother who started a San Francisco chapter of BLM and how he isn't a Marxist.... prove how you know what you are talking about!

time4fun
11-18-2021, 09:53 AM
Lol you actually took the bait? Amazing. I'm so glad I decided to stop in here <3

Right?

It's just like their whole critical race theory thing- they have absolutely no idea what "Marxism" is.

If someone calls themselves a "Trained Marxist", they're one of two things:

1) A complete idiot who doesn't actually understand Marxism at all
2) An academic who uses Marx's political philosophies to explain the idea of power in a way that is fundamentally incompatible with BLM (Oh and Critical Race Theory too)


No one uses Marx as a set of practical, political and economic action items. Those days are long gone.

You won't find Marx or Marxism in Econ 101 or in any economics class where Maynard Keynes is on the syllabus. But you'll find him in graduate level "The history of power" classes taught next to Foucault.

~Rocktar~
11-18-2021, 10:04 AM
As usual, there was no actual substance to your argument. You're just saying random things in an obvious ad hominem strategy. Which is gutsy given how you ended it.

You did manage once again to show everyone you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about when it comes to Socialism and Marxism.

Tell us again how BLM is a Marxist movement. I do love that one.

I was unaware that you made an argument that needed refutation dumb cunt. You are, like most all the rest, arguing that the Socialism and Marxism that you support isn't the same as what has failed for over a century and killed over 100 million people because "That's not real Socialism". This isn't Star Trek shit for brains, it is real Socialism and Marxism, you support it and because of your support for a brutal, totalitarian, murderous political system, you are a bad person.

Flap
11-18-2021, 10:44 AM
I was unaware that you made an argument that needed refutation dumb cunt. You are, like most all the rest, arguing that the Socialism and Marxism that you support isn't the same as what has failed for over a century and killed over 100 million people because "That's not real Socialism". This isn't Star Trek shit for brains, it is real Socialism and Marxism, you support it and because of your support for a brutal, totalitarian, murderous political system, you are a bad person.

Legitimately amazed by this. Do you have any idea how much of a broken record you sound like reeling off these talking points? A broken record playing a sad, bitter tune as the Victrola sloooowly winds down. When will it stop?

Flap
11-18-2021, 10:46 AM
Right?

It's just like their whole critical race theory thing- they have absolutely no idea what "Marxism" is.

If someone calls themselves a "Trained Marxist", they're one of two things:

1) A complete idiot who doesn't actually understand Marxism at all
2) An academic who uses Marx's political philosophies to explain the idea of power in a way that is fundamentally incompatible with BLM (Oh and Critical Race Theory too)


No one uses Marx as a set of practical, political and economic action items. Those days are long gone.

You won't find Marx or Marxism in Econ 101 or in any economics class where Maynard Keynes is on the syllabus. But you'll find him in graduate level "The history of power" classes taught next to Foucault.

Wait until they find out that I earn over 50% above the median income of my area using SOCIALISM. OH NOOOOOOOOO

Have you told them about roads yet?

~Rocktar~
11-18-2021, 08:48 PM
Legitimately amazed by this. Do you have any idea how much of a broken record you sound like reeling off these talking points? A broken record playing a sad, bitter tune as the Victrola sloooowly winds down. When will it stop?

Whhaaaaaaa, are you the new Assliana?

Flap
11-18-2021, 11:12 PM
Whhaaaaaaa, are you the new Assliana?

Nah. Not any of the other people I don't know that I've been accused of being on here, either! Believe it or not, this is my only account on the players' corner! I'm sure that mods or whatever could confirm that.

~Rocktar~
11-18-2021, 11:14 PM
Nah. Not any of the other people I don't know that I've been accused of being on here, either! Believe it or not, this is my only account on the players' corner! I'm sure that mods or whatever could confirm that.

Reading fail. I didn't accuse you of being ASSliana, just trying to take it's place.

Flap
11-18-2021, 11:20 PM
Reading fail. I didn't accuse you of being ASSliana, just trying to take it's place.

Cool beans. Hope you enjoyed your little inside joke.

You'll have to excuse my assumption. I'm accustomed to being accused of being an alt account here because some folks can't fathom that more than one person in a tiny community could share an opposing view.

Kyulen
11-19-2021, 08:51 AM
Cool beans. Hope you enjoyed your little inside joke.

You'll have to excuse my assumption. I'm accustomed to being accused of being an alt account here because some folks can't fathom that more than one person in a tiny community could share an opposing view.

When I first started posting in this politics subforum I got accused of being an alt of a bunch of random people who apparently used to post here who I've never heard of too.

Flap
11-19-2021, 09:25 AM
When I first started posting in this politics subforum I got accused of being an alt of a bunch of random people who apparently used to post here who I've never heard of too.

It's kind of understandable. Not everyone has the endurance to put up with right wing clownery for very long. They tend to drive off people with reasonable opinions.

Suppa Hobbit Mage
11-19-2021, 09:52 AM
I consider myself very reasonable and right leaning, moderate actually. Like most people.

Flap
11-19-2021, 11:34 AM
I consider myself very reasonable and right leaning, moderate actually. Like most people.

Odd that you felt the need to chime in. A hit dog will holler, I suppose!