Trump Threatens Pennsylvanians With Retribution

[Keller]

Apparently at a rally today, Trump was not happy that Governor Wolf was not accommodating Trump's super spreader rally planning. He told the crowd that the next time Pennsylvania needs federal aid, he'll remember that.

Of course the crowd, which was fully infected with TDS, cheered at the President's threats.

[~Rocktar~]

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[Fortybox]

Meanwhile, Joe Biden admits to organizing mail in voter fraud and also thinks he is running against George Bush.

[Parkbandit]

Meanwhile, Joe Biden admits to organizing mail in voter fraud and also thinks he is running against George Bush.

Don't forget how tired he was to having to debate President Trump for a full 90 minutes... and at the end let slip his plan to get rid of the oil industry.

[caelric]

Meanwhile, Joe Biden admits to organizing mail in voter fraud and also thinks he is running against George Bush.

I mean, it's pretty clear to almost everyone that Harris is taking over for Biden within months (if not weeks or days) after the inauguration.

[~Rocktar~]

I mean, it's pretty clear to almost everyone that Harris is taking over for Biden within months (if not weeks or days) after the inauguration.

Minutes . . .

[time4fun]

I mean, it's pretty clear to almost everyone that Harris is taking over for Biden within months (if not weeks or days) after the inauguration.

Well that largely depends on how much Russian-fed misinformation you've exposed yourself to and how much time you've actually spent getting information from nonpartisan sources.

The whole Biden is about to die and is mentally unfit thing- that's literally Russian propaganda that's been picked up by conservative media outlets.

So ultimately your views on it are more a reflection of you than of, say, Biden and Harris.

[Wrathbringer]

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This is correct.

[caelric]

Well that largely depends on how much Russian-fed misinformation you've exposed yourself to and how much time you've actually spent getting information from nonpartisan sources.

The whole Biden is about to die and is mentally unfit thing- that's literally Russian propaganda that's been picked up by conservative media outlets.

So ultimately your views on it are more a reflection of you than of, say, Biden and Harris.

There's dumb, there's really fucking stupid, and then there's fucktarded. You, andraste, are fucktarded.

[Keller]

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I'm not even from Pennsylvania.

Why would I care that Trump doesn't give a shit about the citizens of Pennsylvania and will use them as cannon fodder for his personal grudges?

[Neveragain]

Apparently at a rally today, Trump was not happy that Governor Wolf was not accommodating Trump's super spreader rally planning. He told the crowd that the next time Pennsylvania needs federal aid, he'll remember that.

Of course the crowd, which was fully infected with TDS, cheered at the President's threats.

I know a 95 year old woman that has gotten and recovered from covid. Fucking pussies.

[Parkbandit]

There's dumb, there's really fucking stupid, and then there's fucktarded. You, andraste, are fucktarded.

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[Parkbandit]

I'm not even from Pennsylvania.

Why would I care that Trump doesn't give a shit about the citizens of Pennsylvania and will use them as cannon fodder for his personal grudges?

Who knows what goes on in your head. Who would have though you would be so upset at someone because they didn't invite you back into a World of Warcraft guild that you doxxed him, found his underage daughter's social media pages.. then stalked her for 15 years?

Why would you care? Probably because you are into adolescent kids?

Get registered.

[Fortybox]

Don't forget how tired he was to having to debate President Trump for a full 90 minutes... and at the end let slip his plan to get rid of the oil industry.

Hah! Yeah, that was a good one. Pretty scary knowing he will have nuclear launch codes if he wins.

[Fortybox]

I mean, it's pretty clear to almost everyone that Harris is taking over for Biden within months (if not weeks or days) after the inauguration.

That's a scary thought.

[Parkbandit]

That's a scary thought.

How is it possible she has literally gotten ditzier in the past year. She used to speak so much more intelligently.

[caelric]

How is it possible she has literally gotten ditzier in the past year. She used to speak so much more intelligently.

It's a facade. She is a very intelligent, ambitious, driven woman. Honestly, someone I would admire, if her political leanings were not diametrically opposed to everything I believe in. I'm terrified of the socialist police state that the US would become if President Harris were in office.

[~Rocktar~]

It's a facade. She is a very intelligent, ambitious, driven woman. Honestly, someone I would admire, if her political leanings were not diametrically opposed to everything I believe in. I'm terrified of the socialist police state that the US would become if President Harris were in office.

^^ This

[time4fun]

Uh. The President of the United States just threatened to withhold Federal DISASTER RELIEF FUNDING from US citizens because their Governor wouldn't help his campaign.

But you're super afraid of Harris and her, what was it, "socialist police state"?

Not just stupid. Dangerously stupid.

[caelric]

Better that your fucktardedness, andraste.

As for the socialistic police state, please look up her record as AG of CA.

[Parkbandit]

It's a facade. She is a very intelligent, ambitious, driven woman. Honestly, someone I would admire, if her political leanings were not diametrically opposed to everything I believe in. I'm terrified of the socialist police state that the US would become if President Harris were in office.

Checks and balances. We will be fine.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I can't keep up, what repressed minority is the cunt playing these days?

[Parkbandit]

Uh. The President of the United States just threatened to withhold Federal DISASTER RELIEF FUNDING from US citizens because their Governor wouldn't help his campaign.

But you're super afraid of Harris and her, what was it, "socialist police state"?

Not just stupid. Dangerously stupid.

You're such a dumb bitch, Andraste. How do you remember to breath?

[caelric]

I can't keep up, what repressed minority is the cunt playing these days?

Broke former GMs of GS is a pretty niche minority.

[Parkbandit]

I can't keep up, what repressed minority is the cunt playing these days?

Andraste is Jewish. But her pretend half brother is gay, black, illegal and has diabetes.

[caelric]

Checks and balances. We will be fine.

Maybe, maybe not. Sure, the SCOTUS is a great check and balance, especially with ACB on it, but the plans to pack the court with leftist judges concerns me.

[time4fun]

Better that your fucktardedness, andraste.

As for the socialistic police state, please look up her record as AG of CA.

And one of these days you may even learn what socialism means

[~Rocktar~]

And one of these days you may even learn what socialism means

100+ million people killed, uncounted millions more starved and untold lives crushed in the past 120 years or so.

[caelric]

100+ million people killed, uncounted millions more starved and untold lives crushed in the past 120 years or so.

And yes, that is exactly what socialism means.

[beldannon5]

And one of these days you may even learn what socialism means

yes if harris and biden wins and harris takes over we sure will

[Velfi]

yes if harris and biden wins and harris takes over we sure will

Just out of curiosity, what's your opinion on roads being public and free to use?

[Alashir]

Just out of curiosity, what's your opinion on roads being public and free to use?

Lol

[~Rocktar~]

Just out of curiosity, what's your opinion on roads being public and free to use?

Not Socialism.

https://moderndayfreethinker.wordpress.com/2016/03/11/roads-are-not-socialist-and-yes-i-will-prove-it/

Next ignorant argument.

[Velfi]

Not Socialism.

https://moderndayfreethinker.wordpress.com/2016/03/11/roads-are-not-socialist-and-yes-i-will-prove-it/

Next ignorant argument.

They're paid for by taxes from everyone, and for everyone to use. I think that easily falls under the banner of the 'socialism' that is used as a boogeyman for other services that function in the same way.

Regardless, "not socialism" is not an answer to the question that I asked.

[Parkbandit]

They're paid for by taxes from everyone, and for everyone to use. I think that easily falls under the banner of the 'socialism' that is used as a boogeyman for other services that function in the same way.

Regardless, "not socialism" is not an answer to the question that I asked.

Everyone? Can I just go for a walk on I75 tonight? Or.. do I need to purchase a vehicle from someone using money to use that road?

[Velfi]

Everyone? Can I just go for a walk on I75 tonight? Or.. do I need to purchase a vehicle from someone using money to use that road?

Very useful points.

[time4fun]

They're paid for by taxes from everyone, and for everyone to use. I think that easily falls under the banner of the 'socialism' that is used as a boogeyman for other services that function in the same way.

Regardless, "not socialism" is not an answer to the question that I asked.

Socialism as a political concept is sort of a massive range, but generally it means that the government owns the means of production (i.e. the government owns all of the steel mills, the government owns all of factories, etc), and typically the private companies that do exist are collectively owned by the employees.

So public ownership is a component of some forms of socialism, but it's not really socialism itself. The socialist version of public roads would be that all road building companies are either owned by the government or owned collectively by the workers. What you're describing, though, is social democracy. That's actually the thing people advocate for in this country and around Europe, in particular.

Getting to your boogeyman point though- virtually nothing people are actually advocating for in the US (on either side) qualifies as socialism. Supporting Universal health care isn't socialism. Supporting Single payer universal systems aren't actually socialism (Don't get me wrong- it can exist in a socialist government. But it's not inherently socialist). Supporting Free college tuition isn't socialism. It's just called not being an asshole.

Socialism is the most abused term in politics in the US. The only people talking about socialism are Republicans and Bernie Sanders- neither of whom actually know what it means.

[~Rocktar~]

They're paid for by taxes from everyone, and for everyone to use. I think that easily falls under the banner of the 'socialism' that is used as a boogeyman for other services that function in the same way.

Regardless, "not socialism" is not an answer to the question that I asked.

"You don't think" is correct. Roads, bridges and other services that generate no revenue and manufacture nothing are not Socialist in nature because of that very fact and the definition of Socialism. All clearly explained in the article I linked written by a Liberal author.

[time4fun]

"You don't think" is correct. Roads, bridges and other services that generate no revenue and manufacture nothing are not Socialist in nature because of that very fact and the definition of Socialism. All clearly explained in the article I linked written by a Liberal author.

Neither is anything you have EVER decried as socialism.

Same goes for Marxism.

Maybe you should read the article a few more times.

[~Rocktar~]

Getting to your boogeyman point though- virtually nothing people are actually advocating for in the US (on either side) qualifies as socialism. Supporting Universal health care isn't socialism. Supporting Single payer universal systems aren't actually socialism (Don't get me wrong- it can exist in a socialist government. But it's not inherently socialist).

Controlling the means of production of the product, medical care including goods and services in this case, and it's distribution to the people is in fact Socialist in nature. Since there is no generated profit from sale, that isn't a consideration in this case. Not to mention totalitarian and bordering on, depending on implementation, a violation of the First and Thirteenth amendments of the Constitution among others.


Supporting Free college tuition isn't socialism. It's just called not being an asshole. Again, controlling the means of production and the distribution of the product, co called higher education in this case, is in fact Socialist in nature. Again no profit generated from the sale of the product precludes considering that in this case as well.

So, again, next ignorant argument.

[~Rocktar~]

Neither is anything you have EVER decried as socialism.

Same goes for Marxism.

Maybe you should read the article a few more times.

Yeah, that is a nice broad and inaccurate brush you paint with there since I know you are full of shit and don't know what you are talking about. Any new fake PhDs lately?

[Blazar]

Controlling the means of production of the product, medical care including goods and services in this case, and it's distribution to the people is in fact Socialist in nature. Since there is no generated profit from sale, that isn't a consideration in this case. Not to mention totalitarian and bordering on, depending on implementation, a violation of the First and Thirteenth amendments of the Constitution among others.

Again, controlling the means of production and the distribution of the product, co called higher education in this case, is in fact Socialist in nature. Again no profit generated from the sale of the product precludes considering that in this case as well.

So, again, next ignorant argument.

When the government decides where a road will be built, gets the tax dollars, buys the land, hires a contractor, and is responsible for maintaining said road... is that not controlling the means of production of the product? Damn, I think it is. Can I just go build a road anywhere I want? Can I declare imminent domain to build a road? Nope, sure can't. Seems like the government controls the shit out of the means of production and distribution of the product. Oh, and don't they also make people get licenses to use said roads, further controlling said distribution of the product? Hmmmmmm.....

This doesn't differ from universal health at a principle level. The only difference is in your mind's eye, which is only capable of looking out for one thing.... you. You have health care. You can afford it. Giving it to everyone would mean you might have to pay a little more, so fuck that shit, you've got no time for anyone else.

Next ignorant argument please.

[Blazar]

When the government decides where a road will be built, gets the tax dollars, buys the land, hires a contractor, and is responsible for maintaining said road... is that not controlling the means of production of the product? Damn, I think it is. Can I just go build a road anywhere I want? Can I declare imminent domain to build a road? Nope, sure can't. Seems like the government controls the shit out of the means of production and distribution of the product. Oh, and don't they also make people get licenses to use said roads, further controlling said distribution of the product? Hmmmmmm.....

This doesn't differ from universal health at a principle level. The only difference is in your mind's eye, which is only capable of looking out for one thing.... you. You have health care. You can afford it. Giving it to everyone would mean you might have to pay a little more, so fuck that shit, you've got no time for anyone else.

Next ignorant argument please.

And in fact, you could go on to say that privatized health care is like a toll road. Surely, you're seeing the analogy by now...

[time4fun]

Yeah, that is a nice broad and inaccurate brush you paint with there since I know you are full of shit and don't know what you are talking about. Any new fake PhDs lately?

Translation: "Prager U didn't equip me to disinformation my way through a real conversation about socialism!"

[time4fun]

Controlling the means of production of the product, medical care including goods and services in this case, and it's distribution to the people is in fact Socialist in nature. Since there is no generated profit from sale, that isn't a consideration in this case. Not to mention totalitarian and bordering on, depending on implementation, a violation of the First and Thirteenth amendments of the Constitution among others.

Again, controlling the means of production and the distribution of the product, co called higher education in this case, is in fact Socialist in nature. Again no profit generated from the sale of the product precludes considering that in this case as well.

So, again, next ignorant argument.

No controlling the means of production in terms of medical care would mean that either the state owns all of the medical centers, or the ones not owned by the state are collectively owned by the employees.

Distribution of goods to the larger population isn't socialism. It's provisioning, and we do it with a lot of things in a lot of ways. There's absolutely nothing about the pure act of *distribution* that qualifies as socialist anything- socialism is only concerned with production as far as government ownership goes. And yes, that's true even when it's the government doing the distribution. Which, by the way, is NOT at all even remotely close to ANYTHING anyone has argued for in this country as far as health care goes.

And you're equally wrong as far as education goes. It only counts as socialism if the government owns all of the colleges and universities in the country, OR the ones they don't own are owned collectively by the employees there. That's not at all the system we have. Disbursing government funds to private entities owned by a board of directors in order to perform services the government wants to ensure isn't socialism. At all. It's actually the opposite of socialism.

So congratulations Rockstar: once again, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

[time4fun]

Though I realize you'll never understand this- the way you're talking about socialism in this thread is as embarrassing as when you start calling BLM Marxist.

[~Rocktar~]

If you both actually had the education and intelligence you claim you have you might realize just how full of shit you are.

[Parkbandit]

Translation: "Prager U didn't equip me to disinformation my way through a real conversation about socialism!"

Imagine going to MCAD and thinking you should make fun of any other college or university..

You should get some self awareness somewhere.

[Parkbandit]

Though I realize you'll never understand this- the way you're talking about socialism in this thread is as embarrassing as when you start calling BLM Marxist.

He didn't call BLM "Marxist", the actual founders of BLM did.

But I guess that's something that MCAD didn't equip you to be able to comprehend.

[caelric]

Imagine going to MCAD and thinking you should make fun of any other college or university..

You should get some self awareness somewhere.

MCAD?

[Parkbandit]

MCAD?

https://massart.edu/

It's where people go when they can't get into Stanford.

[Parkbandit]

Very useful points.

Sorry.. did I just hurt your socialist ideals?

[Bhaalizmo]

Apparently at a rally today, Trump was not happy that Governor Wolf was not accommodating Trump's super spreader rally planning. He told the crowd that the next time Pennsylvania needs federal aid, he'll remember that.

Of course the crowd, which was fully infected with TDS, cheered at the President's threats.


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