FBI Investigating Trump Surrogate Over Hunter Biden Emails

[Keller]

https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-russia-024b553e9a4ffb2716286dd134876f8a

WASHINGTON (AP) — A New York tabloid’s puzzling account about how it acquired emails purportedly from Joe Biden’s son has raised some red flags. One of the biggest involves the source of the emails: Rudy Giuliani.
Giuliani has traveled abroad looking for dirt on the Bidens, developing relationships with shadowy figures, including a Ukrainian lawmaker who U.S. officials have described as a Russian agent and part of a broader Russian effort to denigrate the Democratic presidential nominee.

Yet Giuliani says foreign sources didn’t provide the Hunter Biden emails. He says a laptop containing the emails and intimate photos was simply abandoned in a Delaware repair shop and the shop owner reached out to Giuliani’s lawyer.

That hasn’t stopped the FBI from investigating whether the emails are part of a foreign influence operation. The emails have surfaced as U.S. officials have been warning that Russia, which backed Trump’s 2016 campaign through hacking of Democratic emails and a covert social media campaign, is interfering again this year. The latest episode with Giuliani underscores the risk he poses to a White House that spent years confronted by a federal investigation into whether Trump associates had coordinated with Russia.

The Washington Post reported Thursday that intelligence agencies had warned the White House last year that Giuliani was the target of a Russian influence operation. The newspaper, citing four former officials, said that assessment was based on information including intercepted communications showing Giuliani had been in contact with people tied to Russian intelligence.

The newspaper said national security adviser Robert O’Brien had warned Trump that information Giuliani brought back from Ukraine should be considered contaminated by Russia, but that Trump brushed off the warning.

Far from distancing himself from Giuliani, Trump has made the purported Hunter Biden emails one of his main talking points in the final weeks of the campaign as he tries to disparage his Democratic rival.

The Trump-friendly New York Post began publishing stories about the emails Wednesday, saying it had obtained them from the former New York mayor. The newspaper said the emails of Hunter Biden, a California resident, were found in a laptop that had been dropped off for service at a Delaware repair shop by an unidentified man who never picked it up. They said the shop owner turned it over to the FBI, but also made a copy of the hard drive and provided that to Giuliani’s lawyer.

One 2015 email published by the Post purported to show a top adviser for Burisma, the Ukraine gas company where Hunter Biden held a board seat, thanking Biden for giving him an opportunity to meet his father when the older Biden was serving as U.S. vice president. The Biden campaign and a lawyer for Hunter Biden said they had no record of such a meeting taking place. They have not addressed the authenticity of the emails.

Giuliani did not respond Friday for a request for comment from The Associated Press. But in an interview Thursday with a SiriusXM show, he asserted that the laptop had been dropped off by Hunter Biden, and that the material was not hacked and the laptop was legally obtained. He said on Fox News on Friday that the information from the laptop was “authentic as hell.”

The FBI is investigating whether the emails are tied to a foreign influence operation, according to a person who was not authorized to discuss an ongoing investigation and spoke on condition of anonymity to AP. The exact scope of what was being investigated was not clear.

But the report that intelligence agencies have been concerned about Giuliani is hardly surprising.

Andrii Derkach, the Ukrainian parliamentarian who is one of Giuliani’s principal contacts, was mentioned in an August intelligence assessment that described a concerted Russian effort to disparage Biden. A Treasury Department sanction announcement from last month characterized Derkach as an “active Russian agent for over a decade.”

Derkach in recent months has leaked recordings of calls Biden had as vice president with Ukraine’s then-leader, audio the Biden campaign contends is heavily edited. Despite his own administration’s warnings on Derkach, Trump has promoted those recordings on Twitter.

Giuliani has not been shy about discussing his foreign contacts, including with Derkach. In December, Derkach posted on his Facebook page photos of him and Giuliani meeting in Kyiv.

Frustration about Giuliani in the West Wing has long run rampant, with those around the president warily watching Giuliani’s efforts to bring down the Bidens and fearful they could boomerang back on the president.

Giuliani was central to advancing a discredited theory that Ukraine, not Russia, had interfered in the 2016 election. His shadowy efforts to get Ukraine to launch investigations into the Bidens helped create the impeachment case against Trump.

Even detractors in the president’s orbit recognize Giuliani as a force in Trump’s defense during the lengthy Russia investigation by the special counsel. The probe detailed extensive contacts between the Trump campaign and Russia but did not allege a criminal conspiracy between the two to tip the 2016 election. Yet the effort to undermine Robert Mueller led Giuliani to Ukraine, which many feel directly led to Trump’s impeachment. He was acquitted by the Senate in February.

After long struggling to find a cable-ready defender, Trump has been mostly appreciative of Giuliani’s attack-dog style — and, for a time, his broadsides against Mueller appeared to play a role in driving down the special counsel’s approval ratings. But at other times, the president has expressed private dismay at Giuliani’s scattershot style.

Some around Trump fear that the case being made against the younger Biden has been weakened because Giuliani has become its face.

The Trump campaign has been pushing allegations of corruption against the Bidens for more than a year, with the president advancing the widely discredited theory that the vice president sought to force out Ukraine’s top prosecutor to protect his son from scrutiny. Though Trump associates believe a case can be made that Hunter enriched himself by selling access to his father, they fear that Giuliani’s lack of credibility will cause the allegations to implode.

[~Rocktar~]

Creepy Pedo Hypocrite strikes again, swallowing Leftist coverup hook, line and sinker.

[time4fun]

Creepy Pedo Hypocrite strikes again, swallowing Leftist coverup hook, line and sinker.

Why are you always insane?

For once in your sad little life- can you please read some nonpartisan news? The Post should *NEVER* have run that story. It's clearly Russian misinformation, and the number of holes in the story make swiss cheese look whole.

[Seran]

https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-russia-024b553e9a4ffb2716286dd134876f8a

WASHINGTON (AP) — A New York tabloid’s puzzling account about how it acquired emails purportedly from Joe Biden’s son has raised some red flags. One of the biggest involves the source of the emails: Rudy Giuliani.
Giuliani has traveled abroad looking for dirt on the Bidens, developing relationships with shadowy figures, including a Ukrainian lawmaker who U.S. officials have described as a Russian agent and part of a broader Russian effort to denigrate the Democratic presidential nominee.

Yet Giuliani says foreign sources didn’t provide the Hunter Biden emails. He says a laptop containing the emails and intimate photos was simply abandoned in a Delaware repair shop and the shop owner reached out to Giuliani’s lawyer.

That hasn’t stopped the FBI from investigating whether the emails are part of a foreign influence operation. The emails have surfaced as U.S. officials have been warning that Russia, which backed Trump’s 2016 campaign through hacking of Democratic emails and a covert social media campaign, is interfering again this year. The latest episode with Giuliani underscores the risk he poses to a White House that spent years confronted by a federal investigation into whether Trump associates had coordinated with Russia.

The Washington Post reported Thursday that intelligence agencies had warned the White House last year that Giuliani was the target of a Russian influence operation. The newspaper, citing four former officials, said that assessment was based on information including intercepted communications showing Giuliani had been in contact with people tied to Russian intelligence.

The newspaper said national security adviser Robert O’Brien had warned Trump that information Giuliani brought back from Ukraine should be considered contaminated by Russia, but that Trump brushed off the warning.

Far from distancing himself from Giuliani, Trump has made the purported Hunter Biden emails one of his main talking points in the final weeks of the campaign as he tries to disparage his Democratic rival.

The Trump-friendly New York Post began publishing stories about the emails Wednesday, saying it had obtained them from the former New York mayor. The newspaper said the emails of Hunter Biden, a California resident, were found in a laptop that had been dropped off for service at a Delaware repair shop by an unidentified man who never picked it up. They said the shop owner turned it over to the FBI, but also made a copy of the hard drive and provided that to Giuliani’s lawyer.

One 2015 email published by the Post purported to show a top adviser for Burisma, the Ukraine gas company where Hunter Biden held a board seat, thanking Biden for giving him an opportunity to meet his father when the older Biden was serving as U.S. vice president. The Biden campaign and a lawyer for Hunter Biden said they had no record of such a meeting taking place. They have not addressed the authenticity of the emails.

Giuliani did not respond Friday for a request for comment from The Associated Press. But in an interview Thursday with a SiriusXM show, he asserted that the laptop had been dropped off by Hunter Biden, and that the material was not hacked and the laptop was legally obtained. He said on Fox News on Friday that the information from the laptop was “authentic as hell.”

The FBI is investigating whether the emails are tied to a foreign influence operation, according to a person who was not authorized to discuss an ongoing investigation and spoke on condition of anonymity to AP. The exact scope of what was being investigated was not clear.

But the report that intelligence agencies have been concerned about Giuliani is hardly surprising.

Andrii Derkach, the Ukrainian parliamentarian who is one of Giuliani’s principal contacts, was mentioned in an August intelligence assessment that described a concerted Russian effort to disparage Biden. A Treasury Department sanction announcement from last month characterized Derkach as an “active Russian agent for over a decade.”

Derkach in recent months has leaked recordings of calls Biden had as vice president with Ukraine’s then-leader, audio the Biden campaign contends is heavily edited. Despite his own administration’s warnings on Derkach, Trump has promoted those recordings on Twitter.

Giuliani has not been shy about discussing his foreign contacts, including with Derkach. In December, Derkach posted on his Facebook page photos of him and Giuliani meeting in Kyiv.

Frustration about Giuliani in the West Wing has long run rampant, with those around the president warily watching Giuliani’s efforts to bring down the Bidens and fearful they could boomerang back on the president.

Giuliani was central to advancing a discredited theory that Ukraine, not Russia, had interfered in the 2016 election. His shadowy efforts to get Ukraine to launch investigations into the Bidens helped create the impeachment case against Trump.

Even detractors in the president’s orbit recognize Giuliani as a force in Trump’s defense during the lengthy Russia investigation by the special counsel. The probe detailed extensive contacts between the Trump campaign and Russia but did not allege a criminal conspiracy between the two to tip the 2016 election. Yet the effort to undermine Robert Mueller led Giuliani to Ukraine, which many feel directly led to Trump’s impeachment. He was acquitted by the Senate in February.

After long struggling to find a cable-ready defender, Trump has been mostly appreciative of Giuliani’s attack-dog style — and, for a time, his broadsides against Mueller appeared to play a role in driving down the special counsel’s approval ratings. But at other times, the president has expressed private dismay at Giuliani’s scattershot style.

Some around Trump fear that the case being made against the younger Biden has been weakened because Giuliani has become its face.

The Trump campaign has been pushing allegations of corruption against the Bidens for more than a year, with the president advancing the widely discredited theory that the vice president sought to force out Ukraine’s top prosecutor to protect his son from scrutiny. Though Trump associates believe a case can be made that Hunter enriched himself by selling access to his father, they fear that Giuliani’s lack of credibility will cause the allegations to implode.

Giuliani hasn't had credibility since 2001. Poor guy is in so deep with the criminals that doubling down every week isn't a problem.

[~Rocktar~]

Why are you always insane?

For once in your sad little life- can you please read some nonpartisan news? The Post should *NEVER* have run that story. It's clearly Russian misinformation, and the number of holes in the story make swiss cheese look whole.

There is no "non-partisan" news. And if you think NPR is non-partisan then you are just confirming that you are retarded on top of being crazier than me.

[Tgo01]

Hunter Biden and Joe Biden are corrupt sons-of-bitches and the FBI investigates the person who uncovered their corruption?

Sounds about right for the swamp. Sounds about right that creepy child stalker thinks this is okay too.

[Neveragain]

Why are you always insane?

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/X_whKQwedFw/maxresdefault.jpg

[Ashlander]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/X_whKQwedFw/maxresdefault.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/2OCsjTZ.gif

[Seizer]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/X_whKQwedFw/maxresdefault.jpg
https://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/945/898/a5f.png

[Methais]

Why are you always insane?

For once in your sad little life- can you please read some nonpartisan news? The Post should *NEVER* have run that story. It's clearly Russian misinformation, and the number of holes in the story make swiss cheese look whole.

Why are you always pretending that you're not Andraste?

For once in your sad little life- can you please stop pretending to be someone you're not? You should *NEVER* have made up that Caramia account. Or all those PhDs. It's clearly you lying, and the number of holes in the stories you tell make swiss cheese look whole.

[Keller]

Imagine if Trump had succeeded blackmailing Ukraine. This non-story would have so many more mouth breathers believing it.

Trump is smart like a fox. He was laying the groundwork for this "October surprise" for a while.

[Seran]

Imagine if Trump had succeeded blackmailing Ukraine. This non-story would have so many more mouth breathers believing it.

Trump is smart like a fox. He was laying the groundwork for this "October surprise" for a while.

The only surprise he got was how ineffective it was

[~Rocktar~]

You two must take serious drugs to be this delusional to think that this is all Trump's doing. I mean really, there is Biden on tape saying he did it back in the day and yet, still you persist with this stupidity.

Did you hit your head? Did your mothers drink heavily while they were pregnant with you? Your TDS is is super overdrive. Get help.

[Methais]

The only surprise he got was how ineffective it was

Remember how you're wrong all the time though? Everyone else does.

[Seran]

You two must take serious drugs to be this delusional to think that this is all Trump's doing. I mean really, there is Biden on tape saying he did it back in the day and yet, still you persist with this stupidity.

Did you hit your head? Did your mothers drink heavily while they were pregnant with you? Your TDS is is super overdrive. Get help.

What was I thinking, clearly Trump has absolutely no connection whatsoever with Rudy Giuliani, his personal attorney. The fact he's introducing manufactured evidence meant to hurt Trump's chief opponent for reelection is clearly just a coincidence.. Oh wait..

[drauz]

https://i.imgur.com/uwejh1w.jpg

[~Rocktar~]

What was I thinking, clearly Trump has absolutely no connection whatsoever with Rudy Giuliani, his personal attorney. The fact he's introducing manufactured evidence meant to hurt Trump's chief opponent for reelection is clearly just a coincidence.. Oh wait..

The fact that you think it's manufactured is hysterical. So, did Trump manufacture the tape of Biden saying he got the prosecutor investigating his son fired?

[Parkbandit]

What was I thinking,

Same as usual: Not much...


clearly Trump has absolutely no connection whatsoever with Rudy Giuliani, his personal attorney. The fact he's introducing manufactured evidence meant to hurt Trump's chief opponent for reelection is clearly just a coincidence.. Oh wait..

So.. is it true or not? Has the Biden campaign denied the laptop was Hunter's and the email is a forgery?

Are you focused on the fact that the information came via Rudy and not the actual information? Let's be honest... the shit Hunter pulled during Daddy's days as Senator/VP are pretty well known and definitely shady as fuck. Is it really that hard to believe that this could have happened?

[Seran]

The fact that you think it's manufactured is hysterical. So, did Trump manufacture the tape of Biden saying he got the prosecutor investigating his son fired?

Your spin on it's pretty funny, if not hysterical in of itself. You're connecting two entirely two unrelated GOP conspiracies as evidence of each other's legitimacy. Both are wrong and you're clearly a sheep. Trump's strategy through his lawyer has failed. The Biden Team's response to not muck about in this nonsense is the right thing to do and not evidence of some cover-up. The FBI is welcome to do their investigation. If it was credible, I'm sure we'd have heard something in 7 months since they first got the bogus info. That the only thing we've heard is that Giuliani has been engaging with Russian intelligence operatives is far more telling

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Fox passing on the story is what the entire liberal media should have done with almost everything for the past 4 years. It's refreshing to see actual journalism and not opinion smear campaigns.

[~Rocktar~]

If the laptop was a Russian or Trump invention, why did Hunter Biden's lawyer send a letter to the computer shop asking for it back?

[Seran]

If the laptop was a Russian or Trump invention, why did Hunter Biden's lawyer send a letter to the computer shop asking for it back?

I believe that happened anymore than Hunter Biden dropped off a laptop with a random repairshop and never picked it up. This is another Giuliani contrivance

[Parkbandit]

I believe that happened anymore than Hunter Biden dropped off a laptop with a random repairshop and never picked it up. This is another Giuliani contrivance

Willful ignorance at it's finest.

https://www.reactiongifs.com/r/lalalala.gif

You should honestly look into it... the evidence is looking more and more likely that it was, in fact, Hunter Biden's laptop.

[~Rocktar~]

I believe that happened anymore than Hunter Biden dropped off a laptop with a random repairshop and never picked it up. This is another Giuliani contrivance

Still more credible than the Steele dossier and the Russian Collusion hoax.

[Methais]

Still more credible than the Steele dossier and the Russian Collusion hoax.

Seran still believes in those 100%.

[Seran]

Willful ignorance at it's finest.

https://www.reactiongifs.com/r/lalalala.gif

You should honestly look into it... the evidence is looking more and more likely that it was, in fact, Hunter Biden's laptop.

Exactly what evidence are you referring to? Do you really think that Giuliani was given Hunter Biden's laptop by the FBI after they purportedly seized it? Screenshots of emails without any communications meta data to prove its authenticity? Giuliani's word that the legally blind laptop owner 'saw' Hunter Biden (or maybe he didn't, because you know, he admitted uncertainty due to vision). How about the drop off receipt, miraculously signed by someone other than Hunter according to his attorney.

You're staking your life on the word of Mayor Rudy, something no other news organization was willing to do. The FBI passed, an paneled grand jury supposedly passed.

When are you going to realize this is just about conservashits and Russian operatives saying Joe Biden as much as possible in the same sentence as drugs and corruption

[Keller]

Conservashits is really bad and you should feel bad for using it.

Might I suggest Cuckservatives?

[Methais]

Conservashits is really bad and you should feel bad for using it.

Might I suggest Cuckservatives?

Is that similar to buttplugressives?

[drauz]

Mr. Giuliani said he chose The Post because "either nobody else would take it, or if they took it, they would spend all the time they could to try to contradict it before they put it out".

[Parkbandit]

Exactly what evidence are you referring to? Do you really think that Giuliani was given Hunter Biden's laptop by the FBI after they purportedly seized it? Screenshots of emails without any communications meta data to prove its authenticity? Giuliani's word that the legally blind laptop owner 'saw' Hunter Biden (or maybe he didn't, because you know, he admitted uncertainty due to vision). How about the drop off receipt, miraculously signed by someone other than Hunter according to his attorney.

You're staking your life on the word of Mayor Rudy, something no other news organization was willing to do. The FBI passed, an paneled grand jury supposedly passed.

How specifically am I "staking my life" on this story? I'm not saying it's true or false... but you are saying it's 100% false.. because BIDEN.


When are you going to realize this is just about conservashits and Russian operatives saying Joe Biden as much as possible in the same sentence as drugs and corruption

Jesus... not Russia again.... don't you ever get tired of that excuse?

Useful idiot...

[Parkbandit]

Mr. Giuliani said he chose The Post because "either nobody else would take it, or if they took it, they would spend all the time they could to try to contradict it before they put it out".

Do you expect "journalists" at the Washington Post or NY Times to run with this story?

[drauz]

Do you expect "journalists" at the Washington Post or NY Times to run with this story?

Fox wouldn't even touch it...

[Keller]

Is that similar to buttplugressives?

They are both puns involving sexual terms.

Let me know if you have other questions.

[Seran]

How specifically am I "staking my life" on this story? I'm not saying it's true or false... but you are saying it's 100% false.. because BIDEN.



Jesus... not Russia again.... don't you ever get tired of that excuse?

Useful idiot...

I imagine the FBI and CIA are getting tired of investigating all the foreign espionage and collusion through Giuliani and his associates too. You can believe they're even more tired of the threat our President has exposed this country to

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Fox wouldn't even touch it...

I'm with you, and glad Fox didn't pick it up initially. It def seemed shady.

HOWEVER...

They picked it up today, now that intelligence officials have said it is both Biden's laptop and not Russian propaganda.

[Tgo01]

They picked it up today, now that intelligence officials have said it is both Biden's laptop and not Russian propaganda.

But that's impossible! Solkern has already assured everyone that the story has been proven to be false and that the Russians are behind it.

[Seran]

I'm with you, and glad Fox didn't pick it up initially. It def seemed shady.

HOWEVER...

They picked it up today, now that intelligence officials have said it is both Biden's laptop and not Russian propaganda.

Unnamed sources. Ratface said he's confident it's not part of a Russian disinformation scheme. Then followed up with he wasn't familiar with the material. Ie; I'm not well versed in what I'm talking about, but my boss is pressuring me to spread some disinformation myself

[Tgo01]

Unnamed sources. Ratface said he's confident it's not part of a Russian disinformation scheme. Then followed up with he wasn't familiar with the material. Ie; I'm not well versed in what I'm talking about, but my boss is pressuring me to spread some disinformation myself

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/58840144/look-at-this-fool.jpg

[Wrathbringer]

I imagine the FBI and CIA are getting tired of investigating all the foreign espionage and collusion through Giuliani and his associates too. You can believe they're even more tired of the threat our President has exposed this country to

Pretty sure you even shit retarded turds at this point.

[Methais]

Ratface said he's confident it's not part of a Russian disinformation scheme.

What does F Chuck Todd have to do with this?

https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1505245/chuck-todd-nbc-news-meet-press.jpg?w=1600&h=1600&q=88&f=671a9ee8eb9f9232e10641acf4bdf483

[Ashlander]

What does F Chuck Todd have to do with this?

https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1505245/chuck-todd-nbc-news-meet-press.jpg?w=1600&h=1600&q=88&f=671a9ee8eb9f9232e10641acf4bdf483

Ratolin's successful twin brother.

[drauz]

I'm with you, and glad Fox didn't pick it up initially. It def seemed shady.

HOWEVER...

They picked it up today, now that intelligence officials have said it is both Biden's laptop and not Russian propaganda.

If its the FBI saying that I'd believe it, but I'm less confident if its CIA.

[Parkbandit]

If its the FBI saying that I'd believe it, but I'm less confident if its CIA.

The same FBI that actually believed the story Hillary came up with for covering up her email scandal... make up shit about Russians and Trump colluding with them?

Damn...

No idea if the story is true or not.. but what we do have is:

1) Hunter Biden doing some shady fucking shit in his life... and I'm not just talking about fucking his dead brother's wife.
2) Joe Biden calling a lid on the past week since the story came out and not just coming out and denying it from the beginning.
3) Democrats proclaiming it's a fake story and the MSM regurgitating it all over the place.

Smells like a typical Democrat scandal that the media doesn't even want to bring up.

[drauz]

The same FBI that actually believed the story Hillary came up with for covering up her email scandal... make up shit about Russians and Trump colluding with them?

Damn...

No idea if the story is true or not.. but what we do have is:

1) Hunter Biden doing some shady fucking shit in his life... and I'm not just talking about fucking his dead brother's wife.
2) Joe Biden calling a lid on the past week since the story came out and not just coming out and denying it from the beginning.
3) Democrats proclaiming it's a fake story and the MSM regurgitating it all over the place.

Smells like a typical Democrat scandal that the media doesn't even want to bring up.

I'm saying that if even they say its true it would hold a lot more weight.

[Tgo01]

Does this image describe far leftists and TDS sufferers perfectly or what?

https://i.redd.it/0d8vwsuc1hu51.jpg

[ClydeR]

https://i.imgur.com/1CzGWY5.png
https://twitter.com/maureendowd/status/1318956190131511297


Anybody seen it? What happens with Giuliani?

[drauz]

Does this image describe far leftists and TDS sufferers perfectly or what?

https://i.redd.it/0d8vwsuc1hu51.jpg

Thats some weak memes, there are much better ones.

[Parkbandit]

If its the FBI saying that I'd believe it, but I'm less confident if its CIA.

Congrats.. FBI confirms it's not Russian propoganda..

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-purported-hunter-biden-laptop-sources

Fox News has learned that the FBI and Justice Department officials concur with an assessment from Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe that the laptop is not part of a Russian disinformation campaign targeting Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden.


Ratcliffe, on Monday, said that Hunter Biden’s laptop and the emails on it “is not part of some Russian disinformation campaign," despite claims from House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, D-Calif.


“Let me be clear: the intelligence community doesn’t believe that because there is no intelligence that supports that," Ratcliffe said. "And we have shared no intelligence with Adam Schiff, or any member of Congress.”

[drauz]

Thats going to be a big hit for Biden, especially if they confirm it's his son's laptop.

[Parkbandit]

Thats going to be a big hit for Biden, especially if they confirm it's his son's laptop.

No it won't. Democrats are generally sheep and Biden could come out and say "I don't know anything about this at all" and the media will regurgitate this talking point until all Dems actually believe it.

[Seran]

Thats going to be a big hit for Biden, especially if they confirm it's his son's laptop.

Republicans are desperate to officially tie the laptop and its contents to Hunter. They know Giuliani has absolutely no credibility, Senate Republicans scarcely more. Once it becomes public record, then Giuliani can tease out anything he wants as being taken from 'official records'. As of right now, he's just a lecherous old man loyal to the President talking out of his ass

[Methais]

No it won't. Democrats are generally sheep and Biden could come out and say "I don't know anything about this at all" and the media will regurgitate this talking point until all Dems actually believe it.

In before Backlash and/or time4Andraste show up to deny being sheep.

[time4fun]

Republicans are desperate to officially tie the laptop and its contents to Hunter. They know Giuliani has absolutely no credibility, Senate Republicans scarcely more. Once it becomes public record, then Giuliani can tease out anything he wants as being taken from 'official records'. As of right now, he's just a lecherous old man loyal to the President talking out of his ass

Imagine if Republicans were as good at governing as they are at creating conspiracy theories

[Tgo01]

Imagine if Republicans were as good at governing as they are at creating conspiracy theories

From the party of "The Russians are literally hiding under your bed!"

[drauz]

From the party of "The Russians are literally hiding under your bed!"

From the party of "Gay marriage causes hurricanes"

[Tgo01]

From the party of "Gay marriage causes hurricanes"

Funny thing about that, those have always been fringe voices. I can't think of a single time the Republican party as a whole was like "Yeah...yeah it's true! The gays caused the hurricanes!"

Now a certain political party HAS gotten behind the "Republicans are responsible for hurricanes!" though. And here's a hint: it's not the Republican party saying that.

[beldannon5]

i thought that was global warming

[drauz]

Funny thing about that, those have always been fringe voices. I can't think of a single time the Republican party as a whole was like "Yeah...yeah it's true! The gays caused the hurricanes!"

Now a certain political party HAS gotten behind the "Republicans are responsible for hurricanes!" though. And here's a hint: it's not the Republican party saying that.

And basically every intelligence agency says that Russian has/tried to interfere in our elections.

[Archigeek]

I'm still laughing, because the party of Trump, with all of his kids on the payroll, is trying to hurt Joe Biden with a nepotism claim. He's so far behind the curve on nepotism that he'll never catch up to Trump. He doesn't have enough kids to catch up!

A claim of nepotism, is that the best Rudy could find? There are no claims that are changing more than a handful of minds at this point. Shame on Rudy, he could have done better. Thinking some undecided voter was going to say to themselves, "wait, what, Biden's a nepotist, I'm voting for Trump instead!" Hilarious.

[Tgo01]

I'm still laughing, because the party of Trump, with all of his kids on the payroll, is trying to hurt Joe Biden with a nepotism claim. He's so far behind the curve on nepotism that he'll never catch up to Trump. He doesn't have enough kids to catch up!

A claim of nepotism, is that the best Rudy could find? There are no claims that are changing more than a handful of minds at this point. Shame on Rudy, he could have done better. Thinking some undecided voter was going to say to themselves, "wait, what, Biden's a nepotist, I'm voting for Trump instead!" Hilarious.

I think there is a big difference between Trump’s kids being his advisors and Biden’s kid getting rich by selling his name to foreign countries and selling access to the VP. Something tells me you know there is a huge difference too but you gotta make those excuses to justify your vote for corrupt Joe.

[Neveragain]

Imagine if Republicans were as good at governing as they are at creating conspiracy theories

https://www.bellybelly.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/if-men-could-breastfeed-750x375.jpg

[Tgo01]

And basically every intelligence agency says that Russian has/tried to interfere in our elections.

And yet they have said Biden’s laptop isn’t a Russian operation yet Democrats are still saying Russia. They are doing it in this very thread.

[drauz]

And yet they have said Biden’s laptop isn’t a Russian operation yet Democrats are still saying Russia. They are doing it in this very thread.

And yet even with them not planting the laptop they are still a major problem to our democratic process.

[Methais]

Funny thing about that, those have always been fringe voices. I can't think of a single time the Republican party as a whole was like "Yeah...yeah it's true! The gays caused the hurricanes!"

This is correct.


In before Backlash and/or time4Andraste show up to deny being sheep.


Imagine if Republicans were as good at governing as they are at creating conspiracy theories


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[Methais]

And basically every intelligence agency says that Russian has/tried to interfere in our elections.

How many said Russia helped Trump win the election though?

The FBI called a meeting yesterday to announce that Iran and Russia are both trying to fuck with things again as well. If I remember right, most of it was intended to fuck with Trump, but they're trying to fuck with both sides as much as they possibly can.

Not that democrats will allow that to get in the way of their Trump/Russia narrative or anything though.

[Alfster]

I think there is a big difference between Trump’s kids being his advisors and Biden’s kid getting rich by selling his name to foreign countries and selling access to the VP. Something tells me you know there is a huge difference too but you gotta make those excuses to justify your vote for corrupt Joe.

Yup. Totally legit.

www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/09/22/ivankas-trademark-requests-were-fast-tracked-in-china-after-trump-was-elected/

[Parkbandit]

And basically every intelligence agency says that Russian has/tried to interfere in our elections.

No one ever said they didn't though. Specifically, it was that Trump was colluding with Russia.

Nice failed attempt at moving the goalposts.

[Parkbandit]

I'm still laughing, because the party of Trump, with all of his kids on the payroll, is trying to hurt Joe Biden with a nepotism claim. He's so far behind the curve on nepotism that he'll never catch up to Trump. He doesn't have enough kids to catch up!

A claim of nepotism, is that the best Rudy could find? There are no claims that are changing more than a handful of minds at this point. Shame on Rudy, he could have done better. Thinking some undecided voter was going to say to themselves, "wait, what, Biden's a nepotist, I'm voting for Trump instead!" Hilarious.

You are either being completely disingenuous or you really are this stupid.

And to be fair.. I'm not sure which one you are.

[drauz]

No one ever said they didn't though. Specifically, it was that Trump was colluding with Russia.

Nice failed attempt at moving the goalposts.

Except that's exactly what is being said..


From the party of "The Russians are literally hiding under your bed!"

Maybe stay out the conversation if you don't know what is being talked about.

[Tgo01]

Except that's exactly what is being said..



Maybe stay out the conversation if you don't know what is being talked about.

Clearly that post of mine was pointing out that the Democrats blame everything on Russia. I thought that was pretty obvious. Democrats have taken a simple statement from some intelligence agencies that Russia interfered in the 2016 election and used that as an excuse to blame everything on Russia.

Trump "colluded" with Ukraine? RUSSIA!

People on Twitter calling out Democrats' shit and supporting Trump? RUSSIA!

Fucking Biden's laptop is filled with with corrupted shit and possibly even illegal shit? RUSSIA!

They have blamed so much shit on Russia that I can't even remember it all. It's all just one big Russia blur now.

[drauz]

Clearly that post of mine was pointing out that the Democrats blame everything on Russia. I thought that was pretty obvious. Democrats have taken a simple statement from some intelligence agencies that Russia interfered in the 2016 election and used that as an excuse to blame everything on Russia.

Trump "colluded" with Ukraine? RUSSIA!

People on Twitter calling out Democrats' shit and supporting Trump? RUSSIA!

Fucking Biden's laptop is filled with with corrupted shit and possibly even illegal shit? RUSSIA!

They have blamed so much shit on Russia that I can't even remember it all. It's all just one big Russia blur now.

Don't forget Russia placing bounties on American soldiers.

[Tgo01]

Don't forget Russia placing bounties on American soldiers.

Oh yeah that Trump supposedly knew about and did nothing about. And oh yeah no proof it was the Russian government but rather one particular military unit. And oh yeah the intelligence agency wasn't even 100% sure the accusations were true which is why it went no further and no one told Trump and yet the media and Democrats pushed the theory that Trump knew and probably even chipped in a few bucks for the bounties.

[Seran]

I think there is a big difference between Trump’s kids being his advisors and Biden’s kid getting rich by selling his name to foreign countries and selling access to the VP. Something tells me you know there is a huge difference too but you gotta make those excuses to justify your vote for corrupt Joe.

From a guy who supports a President who shamelessly promotes his own hotels and inviting foreign dignitaries to curry favor by utilizing brand. A daughter who exploited her advisor position to push a brand and to gain wealth. I mean seriously, you're so oblivious it's scary

[Seran]

Oh yeah that Trump supposedly knew about and did nothing about. And oh yeah no proof it was the Russian government but rather one particular military unit. And oh yeah the intelligence agency wasn't even 100% sure the accusations were true which is why it went no further and no one told Trump and yet the media and Democrats pushed the theory that Trump knew and probably even chipped in a few bucks for the bounties.

And yet after finding out the information that somehow missed him and made it to every other superpowers intelligence briefings, the President still didn't confront his boyfriend Putin about it. Whether it's a government agency, a military unit or a single commander, the executive is responsible and Dhump didn't do anything to hold Putin accountable

[caelric]

Why are you always insane?

How ironic.

[Methais]

How ironic.

time4Andraste's complete lack of self awareness is pretty amazing.

[Wrathbringer]

Yup. Totally legit.

www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/09/22/ivankas-trademark-requests-were-fast-tracked-in-china-after-trump-was-elected/

Retardation Level 1-10= 9


And yet even with them not planting the laptop they are still a major problem to our democratic process.

Again, pretty damned retarded. 8


From a guy who supports a President who shamelessly promotes his own hotels and inviting foreign dignitaries to curry favor by utilizing brand. A daughter who exploited her advisor position to push a brand and to gain wealth. I mean seriously, you're so oblivious it's scary

:lol: 11.


Where exactly do you get your news? Like what do you read? Websites? What is the population of your city? Legit.

12.