Trump Ignores Working People to Focus on Supreme Court

[Keller]

Most Americans were perplexed when Trump unilaterally stopped his government from pursuing economic relief for working people and small businesses hurt by his pandemic.

But one of his economic advisors, Larry Kudlow, gave us an explanation when he said "We’ve only got four weeks to the election and we have a justice of the Supreme Court to get passed. It’s too close to the election -- not enough time to get stuff done at this stage in the game."

I guess it helps explain why Trump stopped focusing on economic relief for us. Imagine thinking "we've only got four weeks left until the election, let's ignore working people and focus on making sure we can restrict women's healthcare."

[BriarFox]

Most Americans were perplexed when Trump unilaterally stopped his government from pursuing economic relief for working people and small businesses hurt by his pandemic.

But one of his economic advisors, Larry Kudlow, gave us an explanation when he said "We’ve only got four weeks to the election and we have a justice of the Supreme Court to get passed. It’s too close to the election -- not enough time to get stuff done at this stage in the game."

I guess it helps explain why Trump stopped focusing on economic relief for us. Imagine thinking "we've only got four weeks left until the election, let's ignore working people and focus on making sure we can restrict women's healthcare."

But after he wins, don't worry, he'll start up those talks again! Nothing like trying to hold virus relief hostage to your own ego and reelection.

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[~Rocktar~]

Or it could have something to do with Pelosi passing only pork filled bailouts for Leftist states and illegals. He has said many times that if he gets a clean relief bill that he would sign it but hey, let's not let facts get in the way. You haven't seemed upset that Pelosi has been being a major fuck through all of this and you only seem to be upset about the spending when you want to attack Trump but hey, Pelosi's 3T aid package of pork and BS was just fine with you.

Hypocrites.


Speaker Pelosi Decides Nothing Is Better Than Anything

Republicans Have Tried For Months To Compromise With Democrats, But Speaker Pelosi Has Refused To Budge From Her All-Or-Nothing Demands On Coronavirus Relief


SENATE MAJORITY LEADER MITCH McCONNELL (R-KY): “If Senate Democrats were half as concerned as they say about American families’ healthcare, they would not have filibustered a multi-hundred-billion-dollar proposal for more coronavirus relief just a few weeks ago…. Three weeks ago, every single Senator cast a vote on pre-existing conditions, money for testing, money for vaccines, money for safe schools, money for small businesses, and money for unemployed workers. Fifty-two Republicans voted to pass all these policies. And every single Democrat who showed up voted to filibuster it dead.” (Sen. McConnell, Remarks, 10/06/2020)

SEN. McCONNELL: “House Democrats [tried] to save face by introducing yet another multi-trillion-dollar far-left wish list with virtually all the same non-COVID-related poison-pills as their last unserious bill. Speaker Pelosi’s latest offering still does not include a single cent of new money for the Paycheck Protection Program, to help small businesses that are going under. It does nothing to help schools, universities, doctors, nurses, or employers avoid frivolous lawsuits…. They still want to send taxpayer-funded stimulus checks to people in our country illegally. They still want to hand a massively-expensive tax cut to millionaires and billionaires in places like New York City and San Francisco. A pet priority of the Speaker and the Democratic Leader that would do nothing to help working families through this pandemic. All of these far-left poison pills are still in their recycled bill. They have no intention of making bipartisan law for American families.” (Sen. McConnell, Remarks, 10/06/2020)


Speaker Pelosi Has Repeatedly Emphasized Her All-Or-Nothing Policy: ‘Don’t Be Misled By Thinking, Oh, Well, A Little Bit Is Better Than Nothing. No, It Isn’t’
SEPTEMBER 9th: MSNBC’s ANDREA MITCHELL: “Well, is it better to go forward with some...”
HOUSE SPEAKER NANCY PELOSI (D-CA): “No, it isn’t. Now, let me -- thank you so much for that question, because I hear it a lot. And, clearly, it springs from all the good intentions we all have to help people as soon as we can. … So, don’t be misled by thinking, oh, well, a little bit is better than nothing. No, it isn’t.” (MSNBC’s “Andrea Mitchell Reports,” 9/09/2020)

SEPTEMBER 14th: SPEAKER PELOSI: “Don’t be a cheap date.” (“Democrats, Republicans Point Fingers Over Lack of Coronavirus Aid Bill,” The Wall Street Journal, 9/14/2020)

SEPTEMBER 18th: BLOOMBERG’s DAVID WESTIN: “You mentioned negotiating with the Administration. The Administration has sent signals, they weren’t very subtle, saying they’re interested in something like $1.5 trillion compromise, which would have, as I understand it, $450 a week – not $600, but $450 a week for people for at least eight weeks, and would have $500 billion for the states. Not the $900 you asked for, but not the $100 [billion] the Republicans have said. Isn’t something better than nothing?”
[B]SPEAKER PELOSI: “No.” (Bloomberg, 9/18/2020)

OCTOBER 1st: SPEAKER PELOSI: “And so, when people say, as some of you do, ‘Isn’t something better than nothing?’ No.” (Bloomberg, 10/01/2020)

OCTOBER 1st: SPEAKER PELOSI: “And some of you have asked, isn’t something better than nothing? No. There can be an opportunity cost that says we’re rewarding the wealthy because they’re wealthy, they’re successful, at the expense of the poor.” (Speaker Pelosi, Press Conference, 10/01/2020)

OCTOBER 2nd: SPEAKER PELOSI: “But again, we’re not just taking the path of least resistance because everybody says, ‘Just take something, something is better than nothing.’ No…” (MSNBC, 10/02/2020)

Speaker Pelosi Also Reiterated That Democrat Leaders Wouldn’t Offer Policy Compromises To Get Relief To Americans: ‘We Didn’t Cut Things Out We Just Brought It Down’

SPEAKER PELOSI:“[W]here we could perhaps change the timing so it’s less money now. That’s how we were able to come down. We didn’t cut things out we just brought it down. … And we came down $1.2 trillion, and we think we can negotiate within that …” (MSNBC’s “Morning Joe,” 9/16/2020)



FLASHBACK: A Month Ago, Every Present Senate Democrat Voted To Block Moving Forward On A Targeted COVID Relief Bill
46 Democrats voted to block Senate action on the relief bill. (S.178, Roll Call Vote #168: Motion Rejected: R: 52-1; D: 0-44; I: 0-2, 9/10/2020)

The Hill: “Senate Democrats block GOP relief bill” (“Senate Democrats Block GOP Relief Bill,” The Hill, 9/10/2020)

“Senate Democrats blocked a GOP coronavirus bill on Thursday amid a deep stalemate over the next relief package. Senators voted 52-47 on the roughly $500 billion Republican bill …” (“Senate Democrats Block GOP Relief Bill,” The Hill, 9/10/2020)

https://www.republicanleader.senate.gov/newsroom/research/speaker-pelosi-decides-nothing-is-better-than-anything

*Note, emphasis added.

So Keller, stop gaslighting you feckless shill.

[drauz]

Or it could have something to do with Pelosi passing only pork filled bailouts for Leftist states and illegals. He has said many times that if he gets a clean relief bill that he would sign it but hey, let's not let facts get in the way. You haven't seemed upset that Pelosi has been being a major fuck through all of this and you only seem to be upset about the spending when you want to attack Trump but hey, Pelosi's 3T aid package of pork and BS was just fine with you.

Hypocrites.



https://www.republicanleader.senate.gov/newsroom/research/speaker-pelosi-decides-nothing-is-better-than-anything

We could have had free pork?!

[~Rocktar~]

We could have had free pork?!

You aren't rich enough to have gotten any of that pork.

[Seizer]

This isn’t a bad thing. They need to stop spending money they don’t have. We know though after the retarded political theater plays out they will spend just as much if not more. They got to keep their pockets lined and let us sheeple foot the bill!

[Keller]

Squiggles, can you help me understand why the federal government should tax dollars that taxpayers have already paid in tax?

Like if I earn $100, pay $10 in tax, shouldn't any incremental tax on my earnings be a tax on $90 and not a tax on $100?

Why is McConnel holding up COVID relief because he wants Americans to pay MORE tax?

[Parkbandit]

Squiggles, can you help me understand why the federal government should tax dollars that taxpayers have already paid in tax?

Not sure anyone can help you with that dumb question, Pedo. Maybe try English this time?

If you can't communicate effectively, find someone to help you. Maybe a neighbor's underage kid?

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Um, didn't Nancy send the house home until after the election?

[Tgo01]

Trump already said if Pelosi would stop trying to pass bills that bailout CA and NY and instead passed a clean bill that sent out checks directly to American citizens then he would sign that bill immediately.

Who is the one who doesn’t care about working people?

[Parkbandit]

Um, didn't Nancy send the house home until after the election?

Trump's fault.

[Keller]

Um, didn't Nancy send the house home until after the election?

There are no scheduled votes, but members could return if the President and his administration were willing to negotiate in good faith.

Not only are they not willing to negotiate in good faith, which has been the case for months, but now Trump isn't even willing to negotiate at all.

[Keller]

Trump already said if Pelosi would stop trying to pass bills that bailout CA and NY and instead passed a clean bill that sent out checks directly to American citizens then he would sign that bill immediately.

Who is the one who doesn’t care about working people?

I'll ask you, since you have half a brain and can probably engage in a somewhat decent conversation: why should the government tax dollars I already paid in tax?

The funny thing is that the Trump administration made that rule (excluding deductions for state taxes) as a revenue raiser (e.g., a tax increase) to be able to pass their legislation in '17 under reconciliation. Now they're pretending like it's some holy grail of the tax code.

They are operating in bad faith merely to punish states with high state taxes (who, not coincidentally, have the lowest per capita federal aid).

[~Rocktar~]

There are no scheduled votes, but members could return if the President and his administration were willing to negotiate in good faith.

Not only are they not willing to negotiate in good faith, which has been the case for months, but now Trump isn't even willing to negotiate at all.

Hey hypocrite, how is Pelosi with the all or nothing position "negotiation"? Can you explain that? That isn't negotiation, that is what children do when they don't get their way.

[Tgo01]

why should the government tax dollars I already paid in tax?

What the hell are you even talking about now?

Your first post was "Trump doesn't want to provide economic relief to working people!" then when I point out the very real fact that Trump has already said he would gladly sign a clean bill that ONLY does that and is not filled with yet more Democrat goodies for their favorite pet projects, now your question is "why should the government tax dollars I already paid in tax?"

If I didn't know any better I would say your entire political belief structure is simple: "I am in favor of the opposite of whatever Trump says!"

[Keller]

What the hell are you even talking about now?

Your first post was "Trump doesn't want to provide economic relief to working people!" then when I point out the very real fact that Trump has already said he would gladly sign a clean bill that ONLY does that and is not filled with yet more Democrat goodies, now your question is "why should the government tax dollars I already paid in tax?"

If I didn't know any better I would say your entire political belief structure is simple: "I am in favor of the opposite of whatever Trump says!"

Squiggles posted an article in which McConnell described why the Republicans won't pass COVID relief legislation.

One of his objections to the bill the House passed was that "[t]hey still want to hand a massively-expensive tax cut to millionaires and billionaires in places like New York City and San Francisco." What he is referring to is repealing the cap on state and local tax deductions.

My question to Squiggles was rhetorical, but I was hoping at least you'd be capable of a discussion.

Maybe I miscalculated that.

[Tgo01]

Squiggles posted an article in which McConnell described why the Republicans won't pass COVID relief legislation.

One of his objections to the bill the House passed was that "[t]hey still want to hand a massively-expensive tax cut to millionaires and billionaires in places like New York City and San Francisco." What he is referring to is repealing the cap on state and local tax deductions.

My question to Squiggles was rhetorical, but I was hoping at least you'd be capable of a discussion.

Maybe I miscalculated that.

I haven't been keeping up with your debates with others, I just saw your dumb ass first post/title and corrected you that it's the House Democrats who are putting working people last behind their special interest groups, and now you're onto something else entirely different and telling me I'm not capable of a discussion?

Okay guy.

[Keller]

House Democrats have passed multiple COVID relief bills.

Republicans are refusing to negotiate.

Those are facts.

[Tgo01]

House Democrats have passed multiple COVID relief bills.

Republicans are refusing to negotiate.

Those are facts.

And Trump has said flat out if House Democrats stop with their pet projects and just pass a clean bill that sends checks directly to Americans that he would sign it immediately.

Why do you choose to ignore facts that are inconvenient to your argument? Oh right. Democrat.

[Solkern]

And Trump has said flat out if House Democrats stop with their pet projects and just pass a clean bill that sends checks directly to Americans that he would sign it immediately.

Why do you choose to ignore facts that are inconvenient to your argument? Oh right. Democrat.

Except the republicans agree on what’s in the bill, they are just arguing over amount.
And McConnell hasn’t sat down once and negotiated with the Democrats. The democrats original bill was 3.4T, the republicans if I remember correctly was 1.5T. Democrats have come down to 2.4T, the republicans have gone up 162bln.
At least it looks like the democrats are more willing to compromise than the republicans. And once again, they both agree on what’s in the package, just not the amount.

[Seran]

And Trump has said flat out if House Democrats stop with their pet projects and just pass a clean bill that sends checks directly to Americans that he would sign it immediately.

Why do you choose to ignore facts that are inconvenient to your argument? Oh right. Democrat.

Your cheeto hued party leader is confusing the art of the deal with refusing to consider anything his own proposals. Evidently you too have been led a stray by the multiple conflicting tweets made by that madman as political theater.

Democrats just need to sit back and wait until a new Congress is sworn in and responsible leadership steps in. The Wall Street Journal, Goldeman Sachs and numerous other financial institution or news sources have already given their sanction to a return to sensible Democratic policies and growth

[Tgo01]

Except the republicans agree on what’s in the bill, they are just arguing over amount.
And McConnell hasn’t sat down once and negotiated with the Democrats. The democrats original bill was 3.4T, the republicans if I remember correctly was 1.5T. Democrats have come down to 2.4T, the republicans have gone up 162bln.
At least it looks like the democrats are more willing to compromise than the republicans. And once again, they both agree on what’s in the package, just not the amount.

Blah blah blah. All Pelosi has to do is call Trump's bluff, pass a bill in the House that sends checks directly to Americans, and see if the Senate votes and Trump signs it into law.

But we all know she won't do that because Democrats don't give a single flying fuck about working families, yet for some reason people like you and Keller fall for their shit again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again.

And again.

[Tgo01]

Democrats just need to sit back and wait until a new Congress is sworn in and responsible leadership steps in.

So rather than agreeing to Trump's terms to help American families NOW Democrats just need to let Americans suffer for another 3+ months for a new congress to be sworn in?

Yeah, gee, Democrats care OH SO MUCH about working families.

Fuck you all. Keep voting for this shit, you sheep.

[Solkern]

Blah blah blah. All Pelosi has to do is call Trump's bluff, pass a bill in the House that sends checks directly to Americans, and see if the Senate votes and Trump signs it into law.

But we all know she won't do that because Democrats don't give a single flying fuck about working families, yet for some reason people like you and Keller fall for their shit again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again.

And again.


She wants to pass a complete comprehensive bill, that covers everything. Do I agree with her stance? Fuck no! She needs to pass stand alone bills and help the people. I agree with you completely about it. I’m tired of both parties playing politics with American lives at stake.

And Pelosi has passed multiple bills that send checks. The republicans refuse to vote on it. They won’t even vote on it.
They won’t even sit down and negotiate with the house. Steve Mnuchin has to do it. He’s not even in the senate and shouldn’t be involved in passing legislations, bills or relief packages, that’s the job of congress to negotiate and pass a bill

[Avaia]

Blah blah blah. All Pelosi has to do is call Trump's bluff, pass a bill in the House that sends checks directly to Americans, and see if the Senate votes and Trump signs it into law.

Dude.

You mean like the bill the House passed a week ago?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/01/us/politics/democrats-stimulus-bill.html

[Solkern]

So rather than agreeing to Trump's terms to help American families NOW Democrats just need to let Americans suffer for another 3+ months for a new congress to be sworn in?

Yeah, gee, Democrats care OH SO MUCH about working families.

Fuck you all. Keep voting for this shit, you sheep.

That logic can go both ways, why doesn’t trump just agree with the democrats and pass a bill to help Americans NOW?

[Seran]

So rather than agreeing to Trump's terms to help American families NOW Democrats just need to let Americans suffer for another 3+ months for a new congress to be sworn in?

Yeah, gee, Democrats care OH SO MUCH about working families.

Fuck you all. Keep voting for this shit, you sheep.

Regardless of yours and the President's attempt to spin the blame on Pelosi and the Democratic Party, both parties are responsible for considering the needs of their constituents.

The difference, Nancy Pelosi has floated multiple proposals, attempts at reconciliation and compromises. While the President sits there firing off conflicting orders, taking shots at all involved while gasping for breath and stuffing his face with cheeseburgers, all the while trying to convince himself he's a great leader

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Regardless of yours and the President's attempt to spin the blame on Pelosi and the Democratic Party, both parties are responsible for considering the needs of their constituents.

The difference, Nancy Pelosi has floated multiple proposals, attempts at reconciliation and compromises. While the President sits there firing off conflicting orders, taking shots at all involved while gasping for breath and stuffing his face with cheeseburgers, all the while trying to convince himself he's a great leader

Where are Nancy and the House again, right now?

[Keller]

Where are Nancy and the House again, right now?

At home with their constituents and not in the Swamp getting bogged down in bad faith negotiations with the GOP.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

At home with their constituents and not in the Swamp getting bogged down in bad faith negotiations with the GOP.

So, not working on a solution. Got it.

[Tgo01]

Dude.

You mean like the bill the House passed a week ago?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/01/us/politics/democrats-stimulus-bill.html

You mean the "clean bill" that has the following:

3.6 billion for ELECTION ASSISTANCE COMMISSION
12 billion for EMERGENCY CONNECTIVITY FUND
92 million for NATIONAL ARCHIVES AND RECORDS ADMINISTRATION RECORDS
15 million for OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL SALARIES AND EXPENSES
45 million for INTERIOR, ENVIRONMENT, AND RELATED AGENCIES
900 million for BUREAU OFINDIAN AFFAIRS OPERATION OF INDIAN PROGRAMS
5 million for OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL SALARIES AND EXPENSES
1.73 billion for DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES INDIAN HEALTH SERVICE INDIAN HEALTH SERVICES
135 million for NATIONAL FOUNDATION ON THE ARTS AND HUMANITIES
15 billion for UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE PAYMENT TO POSTAL SERVICE FUND

And that's just a handful of giveaways I bothered to copy and paste over.

[Tgo01]

That logic can go both ways, why doesn’t trump just agree with the democrats and pass a bill to help Americans NOW?

Because it's almost 2 fucking trillion dollars and they are only talking about giving Americans another 1200 dollars in stimulus. Assuming 200 million Americans are eligible to receive these 1200 dollar checks that's only 240 billion dollars. Where the fuck is the rest of the money going to? Democrat special interests mostly.

[Keller]

Good news!

Trump lied about refusing to negotiate.

Apparently he realized throwing a temper tantrum wasn't going to work and now he's back at the table trying to get Nancy to do the stand-alone airline bill that Trump's party wouldn't do last week.

At least some good news.

[Parkbandit]

Where are Nancy and the House again, right now?

October recess... so they can make sure they get re-elected to their umpteenth term so the gravy can continue to flow.

[Tgo01]

Apparently he realized throwing a temper tantrum wasn't going to work and now he's back at the table trying to get Nancy to do the stand-alone airline bill that Trump's party wouldn't do last week.

So Trump wants clean bills that helps Americans and not a 2 trillion dollar pork filled "stimulus"?

It's amazing watching you suck Pelosi's dick for doing the exact opposite of what you want her to do and exactly what Trump wants to do.

Have you finally stopped pretending to be an independent already? You openly admit to being a far leftist, BLM kneeling, Antifa shirt wearing, full-fledged communist now right?

[Seran]

Where are Nancy and the House again, right now?

Standing by awaiting adult decision making from the Whitehouse.

[Seran]

Good news!

Trump lied about refusing to negotiate.

Apparently he realized throwing a temper tantrum wasn't going to work and now he's back at the table trying to get Nancy to do the stand-alone airline bill that Trump's party wouldn't do last week.

At least some good news.

Realizing that House Democrats aren't going to authorize additional trillions in unsupervised, fraud-wrought lending to churches, political action commities and non existent businesses is requiring a different play style. We'll see how long this lasts

[Avaia]

You mean the "clean bill"

I didn't say anything about a "clean" bill. Neither did you. ::shrug::


All Pelosi has to do is call Trump's bluff, pass a bill in the House that sends checks directly to Americans, and see if the Senate votes and Trump signs it into law.

[Keller]

So Trump wants clean bills that helps Americans and not a 2 trillion dollar pork filled "stimulus"?

Pelosi offered to do an airline bailout and the GOP refused to pass and sign it.

Trump is coming back hat in hand to try to get at least that done in spite of McConnell and the GOP's protest. Like I said - it's good news that at least Trump realizes this is more important than politics, which is all McConnell cares about.

[Solkern]

Pelosi offered to do an airline bailout and the GOP refused to pass and sign it.

Trump is coming back hat in hand to try to get at least that done in spite of McConnell and the GOP's protest. Like I said - it's good news that at least Trump realizes this is more important than politics, which is all McConnell cares about.

Yup, the democrats fault! They give the republicans and trump, what they want. It gets rejected by the republicans.... and Tgo is still here blaming the democrats.

[Neveragain]

Yup, the democrats fault!

https://media4.giphy.com/media/3o7TKqY0Wywy1Vp8vS/giphy.gif

[beldannon5]

yes it's weird how the left twists it to be Trumps. Fault. Get your heads out of your collective asses and understand that pelosi is not looking out for the American people

[Tgo01]

I didn't say anything about a "clean" bill. Neither did you. ::shrug::


Trump already said if Pelosi would stop trying to pass bills that bailout CA and NY and instead passed a clean bill that sent out checks directly to American citizens then he would sign that bill immediately.


Your first post was "Trump doesn't want to provide economic relief to working people!" then when I point out the very real fact that Trump has already said he would gladly sign a clean bill that ONLY does that and is not filled with yet more Democrat goodies for their favorite pet projects, now your question is "why should the government tax dollars I already paid in tax?"


And Trump has said flat out if House Democrats stop with their pet projects and just pass a clean bill that sends checks directly to Americans that he would sign it immediately.

I didn't think I had to repeat myself in each and every single post. But I should have known better.

[Tgo01]

Pelosi offered to do an airline bailout and the GOP refused to pass and sign it.

Sure.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I hope they bailout the airlines, I have united stock.

[~Rocktar~]

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[Methais]

We could have had free pork?!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9gqStFxAo4