Nuclear Iran

[Back]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51001167

Iran rolls back nuclear deal commitments


Iran has declared that it will no longer abide by any of the restrictions imposed by the 2015 nuclear deal.

GG Trump.

[Astray]

Then they receive less or no American relief or aid.

[Methais]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51001167

Iran rolls back nuclear deal commitments

GG Trump.

You mean the nuclear deal that Iran was already breaking and that Trump pulled out of way before this?

Gosh, they sure showed him.

[Back]

You mean the nuclear deal that Iran was already breaking and that Trump pulled out of way before this?

Gosh, they sure showed him.

Were they though? Do you have any source for that?

They don't have any nuclear weapons to this day so that sort of disproves your point.

[~Rocktar~]

Were they though? Do you have any source for that?

They don't have any nuclear weapons to this day so that sort of disproves your point.

Do you know how to google? Will you believe any information that anyone here provides that shows how idiotic you are? People were saying they broke it under Obama when they did missile testing that exceeded the limits of the deal. It wasn't all just about making a live nuke. Seriously. Google. It's not hard.

https://lmgtfy.com/?q=did+iran+break+the+nuclear+deal

[Back]

Do you know how to google? Will you believe any information that anyone here provides that shows how idiotic you are? People were saying they broke it under Obama when they did missile testing that exceeded the limits of the deal. It wasn't all just about making a live nuke. Seriously. Google. It's not hard.

https://lmgtfy.com/?q=did+iran+break+the+nuclear+deal

Truth is Iran was in compliance with that agreement and Trump broke the deal.

https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheet/Timeline-of-Nuclear-Diplomacy-With-Iran

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Truth is Iran was in compliance with that agreement and Trump broke the deal.

https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheet/Timeline-of-Nuclear-Diplomacy-With-Iran

You should move there, they like short dick pedophiles.

Seriously, you should move there.

[Methais]

Were they though? Do you have any source for that?

They don't have any nuclear weapons to this day so that sort of disproves your point.

This is why everyone laughs at you and tells you how stupid you are, including other leftists, and why no one is ever interested in having a serious conversation with you about anything.

You’re just too stupid.


Truth is Iran was in compliance with that agreement and Trump broke the deal.

https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheet/Timeline-of-Nuclear-Diplomacy-With-Iran

Exhibit A.

Lol @ you being pro Iran now to own Trump though :lol:

[Tgo01]

I always laugh when Democrats bring up the Iran nuclear deal. Didn't the "deal" only restrict Iran from developing a nuke for 10 years? Wasn't the deal 5 years ago already meaning in 5 years they would have started developing a nuke anyways? Only now they will be 100+ billion dollars richer thanks to a generous donation from Obama not to mention billions of more dollars richer because Obama allowed them to open up their economy?

But morons such as Back don't care about facts or common sense or anything silly like that. He just gets outraged when the media tells him to get outrage and he just sucks whichever dick the media tells him to suck.

[Tgo01]

I'm honestly not even sure who hates America the most anymore: Iran or Democrats. It really is close and they both seem to be making their case in the past couple of days.

[Back]

I'm honestly not even sure who hates America the most anymore: Iran or Democrats. It really is close and they both seem to be making their case it the past couple of days.

Radicalization complete.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Radicalization complete.

Here comes the resident pedophile, quick to defend terrorist Iran.

[Tgo01]

Radicalization complete.

I'm the radical one here? It's not you condemning our president for killing a terrorist who is responsible for thousands of American deaths and tens of thousands of Muslim deaths in the area?

You're not the radical one for defending Iran?

You're not the radical one who sees Iran talking about building a nuke and says "Trump bad!"

No? I'm the radical one for pointing this shit out? Okay then.

[Back]

Lol @ you being pro Iran now to own Trump though :lol:

This statement shows an incredible immaturity in your reasoning skills. Its the "if you're not with us, you're against us" fallacy thats been used to create political divisions since civilization started.

You're really being a shit head when you point at your fellow Americans who are genuinely concerned for the welfare of themselves, their neighbors, and their country, by saying if they disagree with a violent military assassination against a nation halfway across the world that they must be supporters of that country, their actions, and ultimately anti-American.

[Back]

I'm the radical one here? It's not you condemning our president for killing a terrorist who is responsible for thousands of American deaths and tens of thousands of Muslim deaths in the area?

You're not the radical one for defending Iran?

You're not the radical one who sees Iran talking about building a nuke and says "Trump bad!"

No? I'm the radical one for pointing this shit out? Okay then.

Quote me where I condemned our president.

Quote me where I defended Iran.

[Tgo01]

Its the "if you're not with us, you're against us" fallacy thats been used to create political divisions since civilization started.

There's a difference between "not being with us" and thinking Trump is the bad guy for killing a well known terrorist and blaming Trump for Iran wanting to build a nuke.

Stop the sealioning and stop being one of the biggest pieces of shit on the PC.

[Sile]

I'm really being a shit head when I point at our fellow Americans who are genuinely concerned for the welfare of themselves, their neighbors, and their country, by saying if they support killing a known terrorist who has commited acts against the US halfway across the world that they must be ultimately anti-American.

Fixed it for you.

[Tgo01]

Quote me where I condemned our president.

You're really gonna play this game huh?

Do you think it was a good thing that Trump ordered this terrorist to be taken out?

[Parkbandit]

Truth is Iran was in compliance with that agreement and Trump broke the deal.

https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheet/Timeline-of-Nuclear-Diplomacy-With-Iran

https://media0.giphy.com/media/29HRejgahYenVsohB5/source.gif

Never. Ever. Change. Backlash.

[Parkbandit]

Quote me where I condemned our president.

Quote me where I defended Iran.

https://i.gifer.com/4Mu.gif

[Back]

Fixed it for you.

Lame. I never said or even hinted at any of that. But keep using stupid forum tricks like its 1999.

[Back]

There's a difference between "not being with us" and thinking Trump is the bad guy for killing a well known terrorist and blaming Trump for Iran wanting to build a nuke.

Stop the sealioning and stop being one of the biggest pieces of shit on the PC.

You lose the argument when you jump to insults.

I've never said Trump is a bad guy for that assassination. I've questioned the wisdom of it, as have lots of other people, people you would call conservatives, as they rightly should when so many lives are at stake around the world.

Truth is we negotiated a deal that Iran was adhering to that Trump decided to break. Thats just the plain truth. If you don't like that don't blame me. We can discuss why we think he did it. But none of that will change the truth of the matter.

[Tgo01]

You lose the argument when you jump to insults.

Fuck off, retard.


I've never said Trump is a bad guy for that assassination. I've questioned the wisdom of it, as have lots of other people, people you would call conservatives, as they rightly should when so many lives are at stake around the world.

Just answer the question, retard: was it a good thing Trump had the guy killed or do you condemn his actions? Stop being a retarded sealion and answer the question.


Truth is we negotiated a deal that Iran was adhering to that Trump decided to break.

That's Obama's fault for not putting in there "Oh by the way, you can't attack our embassies."

Fuck off, you miserable cunt. Here you are 100% taking Iran's side. "Oh poor Iran! They were upholding their end of the bargain until that meanie head Trump showed up!"

THEY. FUCKING. ATTACKED. OUR. FUCKING. EMBASSY. YOU. PATHETIC. PIECE. OF. SHIT.

You're crying more about an Iranian terrorist being droned than you did about Obama literally droning an American citizen.

[Back]

Fuck off, retard.



Just answer the question, retard: was it a good thing Trump had the guy killed or do you condemn his actions? Stop being a retarded sealion and answer the question.



That's Obama's fault for not putting in there "Oh by the way, you can't attack our embassies."

Fuck off, you miserable cunt. Here you are 100% taking Iran's side. "Oh poor Iran! They were upholding their end of the bargain until that meanie head Trump showed up!"

THEY. FUCKING. ATTACKED. OUR. FUCKING. EMBASSY. YOU. PATHETIC. PIECE. OF. SHIT.

You're crying more about an Iranian terrorist being droned than you did about Obama literally droning an American citizen.

Dude. You're totally losing it.

[Tgo01]

Dude. You're totally losing it.

Back can’t answer a simple question. I’m shocked! Shocked! Well not that shocked. He is a retard after all.

[Back]

Hey I'm just a civilian trying to enjoy a comfortable life. I don't want bad things for anyone and want peace throughout the universe.

The strike in my opinion from that starting point seems overkill to the situation, literally. This in no way means I am defending Iran so fuck you.

I can see that the significance of Iran, or Iranian proxies, attacking a US embassy is reopening old wounds from 1979. But openly assassinating the general of a sovereign nation without approval from the country it happened in, to me, is irresponsible, if we can actually confine the severity of all of that it into those simple terms.

In my first post on this subject I expressed that I was impressed with the execution (pun intended) and damage of the actual strike. The military personal behind it did one hell of a job.

Iran will retaliate eventually, in some way, but they just don't have the numbers or firepower to engage us in a conventional war. We can thank Obama that they don't have a nuke so there is that.

What other act would have been a proportional response to Iranian proxies trashing the outside of our embassy in Iraq? From my comfort here at home its hard to know. What I do know is that the world is less safe today than it was last week.

[Fierna]

Iraqi Parliament Votes to Expel All American Troops and Submit UN Complaint Against US for Violation of Sovereignty. "What happened was a political assassination. Iraq cannot accept this."

Now kicked out of Iraq, the fucking country we liberated a couple of years back and one of the most important ally in the region. Fucking unbelievable.

[Fierna]

Trump used Iraqi PM to lure General Soleimani to Iraq under the guise of mediating peace between Iran and US.

I received a phone call from @realDonaldTrump when the embassy protests ended thanking the government efforts and asked Iraq to play the mediator's role between US and Iran” Iraqi PM said.

“But at the same time American helicopters and drones were flying without the approval of Iraq, and we refused the request of bringing more soldiers to US embassy and bases” iraqi PM said.

“I was supposed to meet Soleimani at the morning the day he was killed, he came to deliver me a message from Iran responding to the message we delivered from Saudi to Iran” Iraqi PM said.

[Methais]

The strike in my opinion from that starting point seems overkill to the situation, literally. This in no way means I am defending Iran so fuck you.

Why exactly is taking out the guy who was behind the Embassy attack that just happened overkill?

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

We can thank Obama that they don't have a nuke so there is that.

LMAO. We can thank Obama for sending billions in cash to Iran so they CAN build a nuke. Your fucking pacifist apologetic president is WHY Trump was elected and WHY we ended up fucking up some nasty motherfuckers in the middle east. The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist. And now we have more good terrorists in the world. And as soon as those stupid fucks think of attacking us again, I only pray Trump is in his second term so he can fuck them up again. We don't need some faggot like you, Backrash, in the oval office apologizing for us being successful.

Only pedophiles like you would think a country which chants "DEATH TO AMERICA" in their senate deserves our mercy. Fuck them all up, including you, you faggot pedophile, and let God sort them out.

[Back]

Why exactly is taking out the guy who was behind the Embassy attack that just happened overkill?

No one died in the embassy attack.

[Sile]

No one died in the embassy attack.

So it takes a death of a US Serviceman before we are able to retaliate?

Ok... if you use that measuring stick... Why didn't we retaliate after 4 died in Benghazi?

If you can't answer that, please enlighten us when it is acceptable to retaliate? Because you seem to move the goal post to when ever its acceptable for your narrative of the day.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

So it takes a death of a US Serviceman before we are able to retaliate?

Ok... if you use that measuring stick... Why didn't we retaliate after 4 died in Benghazi?

If you can't answer that, please enlighten us when it is acceptable to retaliate? Because you seem to move the goal post to when ever its acceptable for your narrative of the day.

He's a faggot, short dicked, pedophile. Tags don't lie. That's why he's got problems with people being successful, earning a good living, not depending on handouts from the government. He's the epitome of what it's like to be a loser your entire life and think people owe you something for simply existing as a leech on society. Go back to busing tables, faggot pedophile.

[Back]

LMAO. We can thank Obama for sending billions in cash to Iran so they CAN build a nuke. Your fucking pacifist apologetic president is WHY Trump was elected and WHY we ended up fucking up some nasty motherfuckers in the middle east. The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist. And now we have more good terrorists in the world. And as soon as those stupid fucks think of attacking us again, I only pray Trump is in his second term so he can fuck them up again. We don't need some faggot like you, Backrash, in the oval office apologizing for us being successful.

Only pedophiles like you would think a country which chants "DEATH TO AMERICA" in their senate deserves our mercy. Fuck them all up, including you, you faggot pedophile, and let God sort them out.


People talk about TDS... you just perfectly displayed a severe case of ODS. Totally impotent rage too since that was years ago and no amount of crying is going to change it. Although Trump is trying his best to tear down everything good Obama did.

Like it or not Obama did as much if not more for the safety and prosperity of this country as any other president before him. Obama got Osama. Nothing will ever change that.

[Back]

He's a faggot, short dicked, pedophile. Tags don't lie. That's why he's got problems with people being successful, earning a good living, not depending on handouts from the government. He's the epitome of what it's like to be a loser your entire life and think people owe you something for simply existing as a leech on society. Go back to busing tables, faggot pedophile.

Namaste, bro. Hope you find some peace somewhere in your life so you don't stroke out in your next rage fit.

[Back]

So it takes a death of a US Serviceman before we are able to retaliate?

Ok... if you use that measuring stick... Why didn't we retaliate after 4 died in Benghazi?

If you can't answer that, please enlighten us when it is acceptable to retaliate? Because you seem to move the goal post to when ever its acceptable for your narrative of the day.

I don't know much about Bengazi and to me thats changing the goal posts of what I was originally asked for an answer about.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Namaste, bro. Hope you find some peace somewhere in your life so you don't stroke out in your next rage fit.

Bro... someday, when you die a paupers death with no one in your life that gives two shits about you, I'll pour out a beer in your memory. Namaste indeed. Keep pretending, brosef. We all know what you are.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I don't know much about Bengazi

Google it, faggot. It happened under the watch of your favorite apologetic president.

Then google what happens to terrorists when they attacked an embassy when someone with a ball sack is president. Oh wait, it's current news. Just google current news for faggots.

[Stanley Burrell]

I hope Mossad pisses in their U238; and, if its U235, go full poop :thumbup:

[Sile]

I don't know much about Bengazi and to me thats changing the goal posts of what I was originally asked for an answer about.

Since you couldn't answer, please enlighten us when it is acceptable to retaliate?

[Back]

Google it, faggot. It happened under the watch of your favorite apologetic president.

Then google what happens to terrorists when they attacked an embassy when someone with a ball sack is president. Oh wait, it's current news. Just google current news for faggots.

Google 9/11, weapons of mass destruction, and who got Osama. Maybe if you cry enough the sting will subside and you can get on with a happier life.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Google it, faggot. It happened under the watch of your favorite apologetic president.

Then google what happens to terrorists when they attacked an embassy when someone with a ball sack is president. Oh wait, it's current news. Just google current news for faggots.


Google 9/11, weapons of mass destruction, and who got Osama. Maybe if you cry enough the sting will subside and you can get on with a happier life.

My life is fantastic, with my legal immigrant wife and number 1 paying job over the past 4-5 years. I'm killing it. How's busing tables going for you? Do you get a lot of children to hit on at your job? I'm too busy trying to figure out how to pay for my second house to worry about pedophile shit like that.

Osama is dead, was dead as soon as he worked out the towers attack. Just a matter of time. PS, Biden didn't want to kill that terrorist fuck. Trump kills fuckers in real time, does that bother you while you bus tables? Do you miss out on the news when you are trying to calculate if you got a 5% tip from people with money, or was it 6%? In the meantime, my investments went up 180% in the last year. I paid off my home, in the last year. I've got nearly 600K in a 401K, and over 400K more in personal investments, all thanks to Trump. I also paid more in taxes last year, so... your welcome. Enjoy the extra few percent the affluent in the country paid towards the poor people like you, this year, Backrash.

I feel sorry for pathetic fucks like you. Namaste, under achiever.

[Tgo01]

Google 9/11, weapons of mass destruction, and who got Osama. Maybe if you cry enough the sting will subside and you can get on with a happier life.

Obama orders Bin Laden killed.
Back: best president ever!

Trump orders this terrorist killed.
Back: worst president ever! Putting us all in danger!

Is it any wonder you are the laughing stock of this forum and your party is the laughing stock of the world?

[TrumpTweets]

Obama orders Bin Laden killed.
Back: best president ever!

Trump orders this terrorist killed.
Back: worst president ever! Putting us all in danger!

Is it any wonder you are the laughing stock of this forum and your party is the laughing stock of the world?

You're completely retarded to even attempt to conflate the two deaths.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

You're completely retarded to even attempt to conflate the two deaths.

You are correct. One was predestined when he attacked the twin towers. The other happened a day or two after he orchestrated the attack of a US embassy in Iraq. One was just the US following through on something that was going to happen, no matter what. The other was the act of a president with balls and happened immediately following the attack on US foreign soil.

[Seran]

You mean the nuclear deal that Iran was already breaking and that Trump pulled out of way before this?

Gosh, they sure showed him.

So explain exactly what Trump has done to retard Iran's nuclear proliferation, aside from bitching about Obama's attempts at multinational nuclear treaty's. The JCPOA was a President doing something with international support. Trump has literally done nothing but bitch on Twitter.

[Back]

My life is fantastic, with my legal immigrant wife and number 1 paying job over the past 4-5 years. I'm killing it. How's busing tables going for you? Do you get a lot of children to hit on at your job? I'm too busy trying to figure out how to pay for my second house to worry about pedophile shit like that.

Osama is dead, was dead as soon as he worked out the towers attack. Just a matter of time. PS, Biden didn't want to kill that terrorist fuck. Trump kills fuckers in real time, does that bother you while you bus tables? Do you miss out on the news when you are trying to calculate if you got a 5% tip from people with money, or was it 6%? In the meantime, my investments went up 180% in the last year. I paid off my home, in the last year. I've got nearly 600K in a 401K, and over 400K more in personal investments, all thanks to Trump. I also paid more in taxes last year, so... your welcome. Enjoy the extra few percent the affluent in the country paid towards the poor people like you, this year, Backrash.

I feel sorry for pathetic fucks like you. Namaste, under achiever.

Haha. Wow. For someone who is so successful you sure sound pissed off. What is it you're so pissed about?

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

So explain exactly what Trump has done to retard Iran's nuclear proliferation, aside from bitching about Obama's attempts at multinational nuclear treaty's. The JCPOA was a President doing something with international support. Trump has literally done nothing but bitch on Twitter.

Trump killed the leader of terrorism? JCPOA was a president bowing before an inferior foreign power.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Haha. Wow. For someone who is so successful you sure sound pissed off. What is it you're so pissed about?

The exact response I expected from a short dicked pedophile.

[TrumpTweets]

The exact response I expected from a short dicked pedophile.

You're so fucking triggered. Try not to have an aneurism.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

You're so fucking triggered. Try not to have an aneurism.

Please get banned. Again. For the fourth? time? Does that tell you anything about yourself?

[Back]

Obama orders Bin Laden killed.
Back: best president ever!

Trump orders this terrorist killed.
Back: worst president ever! Putting us all in danger!

Is it any wonder you are the laughing stock of this forum and your party is the laughing stock of the world?

Completely different situations. Not completely truthful. Try quoting me instead of putting words in my mouth.

[Parkbandit]

You lose the argument when you jump to insults.

Post #14 in this very thread:


You're really being a shit head

But to be honest, you lost this argument when you posted the first post.

[Back]

The exact response I expected from a short dicked pedophile.

You take things too personally. Its just a forum. Lighten up.

[Parkbandit]

Hey I'm just a civilian trying to enjoy a comfortable life. I don't want bad things for anyone and want peace throughout the universe.


You can't possibly be wondering why everyone with an IQ over 6 makes fun of you.. can you?

[Back]

Post #14 in this very thread:

But to be honest, you lost this argument when you posted the first post.

Big difference between explaining why someone is a shit head and just calling someone a shit head. But you're not exactly known for your wits around here.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

You take things too personally. Its just a forum. Lighten up.

Stop being a short dicked pedophile and I'm all good.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Big difference between explaining why someone is a shit head and just calling someone a shit head. But you're not exactly known for your wits around here.

I couldn't hear you over your excuse for being a short dicked pedophile.

[Parkbandit]

Big difference between explaining why someone is a shit head and just calling someone a shit head. But you're not exactly known for your wits around here.

Wait.. when you call someone a shithead.. it's not an insult?

Does that rule just go for you because you were being a hypocritical retard again.. or can anyone call someone a shithead and everyone should consider it not an insult?

You prove everyday just how fucking wrong Darwin was.

And the world is worse for it.

Thankfully.. you didn't procreate and that miserable retard gene dies with you.

[Back]

ROFL. Ya'll are trying too hard. And why? Because someone dare question Trump, arguably the dumbest, most selfish snowflake president ever. The outrage!

The world is a more dangerous place since he got elected. There is no mistaking that.

[Sile]

The world is a more dangerous place since he got elected. There is no mistaking that.

No, that is your opinion. Which is your right to.

But when you say 'There is no mistaking that' about your opinion, you are being narcissistic. You know who is also accused of being narcissistic? Trump.

So, you are being like the person you most hate. Probably a good idea to curb that.

[Tgo01]

Completely different situations. Not completely truthful.

Of course! Because one president was a Democrat and the other a Republican right?

[Tgo01]

Big difference between explaining why someone is a shit head and just calling someone a shit head. But you're not exactly known for your wits around here.

Oh you want me to explain why you’re a retarded piece of shit? I don’t have that kind of time, Back.

[~Rocktar~]

ROFL. Ya'll are trying too hard. And why? Because someone dare question Trump, arguably the dumbest, most selfish snowflake president ever. The outrage!

There is questioning the POTUS and there is actively giving aid and comfort to the enemy. Then there is the Obama team supposedly Kerry and others going behind the achenes trying to undermine Trump's policy. Like it or not, he is the POTUS, he sets the policy and the things the media, celebs and people like you are doing is well beyond "questioning" it's down right destructive and possibly treasonous for some of the worst cases.


The world is a more dangerous place since he got elected. There is no mistaking that.

Yeah, for terrorists.

[Tgo01]

The world is a more dangerous place since he got elected. There is no mistaking that.

Strange, I seem to recall Trump only withdrawing troops from countries we had troops in when he already took office and hasn't expanded the number of countries we are bombing, unlike the previous peace medal winning president before him.

[Seran]

Trump killed the leader of terrorism? JCPOA was a president bowing before an inferior foreign power.

Three years in office and his only Iranian accomplishment was the assassination of a military commander not associated with Iran's nuclear program. Yeah, that's not progress with retarding nuclear proliferation.

[Seran]

For the record, I think his call with the drone strike was great. He made a strong military decision, his judgment was sound. The American people or Democrats may want more justification, but they're not going to get it because it's classified.

[Tgo01]

Three years in office and his only Iranian accomplishment was the assassination of a military commander not associated with Iran's nuclear program. Yeah, that's not progress with retarding nuclear proliferation.

Trump has been busy destroying Iran's economy for a couple of years now, but let's ignore that.

[Methais]

No one died in the embassy attack.

You're such a fucking stooge holy fuck. :lol:

[Methais]

I hope Mossad pisses in their U238; and, if its U235, go full poop :thumbup:

Full poop is always the best option.

[Methais]

You take things too personally. Its just a forum. Lighten up.

That must be why a long time ago you said that if we were ever at the same GS gathering or something like that, you would punch me in the dick within the first 10 minutes.

Not that anyone actually believes you would, because you're a big pussy, but still... :lol:

Or maybe you just wanted to touch my dick. In which case #MeToo

[Ashlander]

That must be why a long time ago you said that if we were ever at the same GS gathering or something like that, you would punch me in the dick within the first 10 minutes.

Not that anyone actually believes you would, because you're a big pussy, but still... :lol:

Or maybe you just wanted to touch my dick. In which case #MeToo

You're over 5 so I doubt he wants to touch your dick....unless you have tiny hands then he might want you to touch his dick.

[Parkbandit]

You're over 5 so I doubt he wants to touch your dick....unless you have tiny hands then he might want you to touch his dick.

Maybe Methais has the penis of a 5 year old. You don't know.

[Back]

That must be why a long time ago you said that if we were ever at the same GS gathering or something like that, you would punch me in the dick within the first 10 minutes.

Not that anyone actually believes you would, because you're a big pussy, but still... :lol:

Or maybe you just wanted to touch my dick. In which case #MeToo

Must be someone else because it wasnt me. I have told you I would not want you anywhere near my friends and family when you creepily said you wanted to hang out with me sometime.

[Ashlander]

Maybe Methais has the penis of a 5 year old. You don't know.

He does say he's asian.

[Tgo01]

Watch the hack Chuck Todd on "mostly accurate" MSNBC try to lead Obama DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson in implying the Trump administration keeps referring to this terrorist as a terrorist for legal reasons to protect Trump, then watch as Johnson reluctantly pours cold water all over "mostly accurate" MSNBC's narrative.

https://twitter.com/AZachParkinson/status/1213871053266673665?s=20

[~Rocktar~]

That is fucking awesome!

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Three years in office and his only Iranian accomplishment was the assassination of a military commander not associated with Iran's nuclear program. Yeah, that's not progress with retarding nuclear proliferation.

His only accomplishment? Don't forget withdrawing from some faggot treaty with them after giving them billions in cash. He's done more to stablize the middle east than any president, ever by simply standing up to terrorists. Remember Obama's red line? Yeah, no one else does either.

[Tgo01]

That is fucking awesome!

All we need now is for sellstuff1 to come along and say "Yeah but what PROOF does he have that this terrorist was a lawful target for Trump to take out?" all the while taking the word of the Iraqi PM over let's see now: his own president, his own country's intelligence agencies, and now even Obama's DHS Secretary who was a counselor in the defense department who decided on things EXACTLY like this.

[Methais]

Must be someone else because it wasnt me. I have told you I would not want you anywhere near my friends and family when you creepily said you wanted to hang out with me sometime.

No this was definitely you. It was years ago, but it was you. Dork.

And did you think I was being serious about wanting to hang out with you? How retarded are you? There has to be a limit to this at some point.

EDIT: Let’s hang out sometime. Not to be pals, but just so I can observe what a fucking lowlife creeper you are for entertainment purposes. Pretend it’s a documentary. A backumentary. A cuckumentary.

[Solkern]

I'm honestly not even sure who hates America the most anymore: Iran or Democrats. It really is close and they both seem to be making their case in the past couple of days.

You forgot about the Hard line conservatives.

[beldannon5]

[QUOTE=Back;2133678]ROFL. Ya'll are trying too hard. And why? Because someone dare question Trump, arguably the dumbest, most selfish snowflake president ever. The outrage!

I thought liberals were the snowflakes? Man I am all mixed up. I do know I want Trump for 4 more years. And I do know he isn't perfect, but way better then hillary or what is coming up against him.

[Solkern]

[QUOTE=Back;2133678]ROFL. Ya'll are trying too hard. And why? Because someone dare question Trump, arguably the dumbest, most selfish snowflake president ever. The outrage!

I thought liberals were the snowflakes? Man I am all mixed up. I do know I want Trump for 4 more years. And I do know he isn't perfect, but way better then hillary or what is coming up against him.

And why exactly is he better? Cause he golfs and waste money more than any previous presidents? His consistent bullshit? I’m genuinely interested. And before you try, I’m not a democrat or a republican. I haven’t lived in the states for 10+ years and from what I see and read both American news and foreign news, he is the worst president of all time, a complete laughing stock for every single country. Russians laugh at America because trump is the biggest fucking idiot in the world (their words)

[Tgo01]

And why exactly is he better? Cause he golfs and waste money more than any previous presidents? His consistent bullshit? I’m genuinely interested. And before you try, I’m not a democrat or a republican. I haven’t lived in the states for 10+ years and from what I see and read both American news and foreign news, he is the worst president of all time, a complete laughing stock for every single country. Russians laugh at America because trump is the biggest fucking idiot in the world (their words)

Oh no! The Russians don't like our president!

[Solkern]

Oh no! The Russians don't like our president!

32 countries last year, not one of them respects our country (not about like) point of it, I remember recalling trump saying “countries are going to respect us now” did he not say that? So far none do.

Anyways, I’m quite pleased he killed that fucktard in Iran, bitch deserved to die, and props to him
Oh and he dropped that ISIS leader... think it was an ISIS leader. Trump dropping terrorist left and right!

[Tgo01]

32 countries last year, not one of them respect our country (not about like) point of it, I remember recalling trump saying “countries are going to respect us now” did he not say that? So far none do.

People like a weak US president like Obama because it's easier to get shit from him. Just look at all of the giveaways that happened under Obama: billions to Iran, he ignored China while they raped our industries, he signed onto that dumb ass Paris climate accord that called for the US to give billions of dollars away to other countries, not to mention the UN continued to walk all over the US while Obama couldn't give them money fast enough, not to mention Obama was too feeble to ask NATO countries to spend more on their military like they agreed to do. Oh and last but not least let's not forget Obama did everything in his power to make sure the US' energy sector couldn't produce much gas or oil, a HUGE give away to Russia, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Venezuela, and other shit stain countries.

Of course those countries loved Obama, why wouldn't they? The US was basically their stooge for 8 years.

Now Iran gets shit like they deserve.
China is practically grovelling for a trade deal because they realized just how weak their economy is without the US buying their cheap shit.
All of those countries who saw dollar signs (including fucking China for some reason) when they signed onto the Paris climate accord get shit.
The UN is having their funding cut and is having to beg other countries to give more.
NATO countries are finally starting to spend more on their military.
And oh yeah, Trump is destroying Russia's energy economy by boosting domestic natural gas and oil production and getting countries to agree to buy more gas and oil from the US instead of from Russia.

Of course those countries don't like Trump, why would they? The free money days are over, at least for now until another pussy push over idiot Democrat gets back into office.

"Respect" doesn't necessarily mean someone likes you.

[Solkern]

People like a weak US president like Obama because it's easier to get shit from him. Just look at all of the giveaways that happened under Obama: billions to Iran, he ignored China while they raped our industries, he signed onto that dumb ass Paris climate accord that called for the US to give billions of dollars away to other countries, not to mention the UN continued to walk all over the US while Obama couldn't give them money fast enough, not to mention Obama was too feeble to ask NATO countries to spend more on their military like they agreed to do. Oh and last but not least let's not forget Obama did everything in his power to make sure the US' energy sector couldn't produce much gas or oil, a HUGE give away to Russia, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Venezuela, and other shit stain countries.

Of course those countries loved Obama, why wouldn't they? The US was basically their stooge for 8 years.

Now Iran gets shit like they deserve.
China is practically grovelling for a trade deal because they realized just how weak their economy is without the US buying their cheap shit.
All of those countries who saw dollar signs (including fucking China for some reason) when they signed onto the Paris climate accord get shit.
The UN is having their funding cut and is having to beg other countries to give more.
NATO countries are finally starting to spend more on their military.
And oh yeah, Trump is destroying Russia's energy economy by boosting domestic natural gas and oil production and getting countries to agree to buy more gas and oil from the US instead of from Russia.

Of course those countries don't like Trump, why would they? The free money days are over, at least for now until another pussy push over idiot Democrat gets back into office.

Concur with what you wrote, except I’m not talking about like, talking about respect, little difference there :)

[Solkern]

Also, China isn’t groveling for a trade deal... at all. I don’t know where you are getting this information, but the information I get from Hong Kong, Macau and Mainland China paint a completely different picture. The Chinese economy isn’t suffering at all, not in the slightest. Well it is, but that’s more due to the shit storm in Hong Kong right now, not because of the trade deal

[Tgo01]

Also, China isn’t groveling for a trade deal... at all. I don’t know where you are getting this information, but the information I get from Hong Kong, Macau and Mainland China paint a completely different picture. The Chinese economy isn’t suffering at all, not in the slightest. Well it is, but that’s more due to the shit storm in Hong Kong right now, not because of the trade deal

China's economy isn't suffering?

Their economy is growing at the slowest rate in decades, their exports are down (they are an export economy so this is a big deal), they have been pumping money into the economy to boost their economy via consumer spending and this has had little impact, businesses are closing down because they can no longer afford to stay in business, citizens are doing bank runs which has led to several banks being closed down, some large companies are moving out of China and to other countries to avoid the US tariffs, and investments in China have slowed down dramatically because again of the US tariffs.

You ain't gonna give Hong Kong credit for all of that or even a large portion of that.

Meanwhile the US economy is booming so why would the US be the ones desperate for a trade deal? China thought they could either wait out Trump or that we needed them just as much as they needed us. Turns out they can't wait out Trump and the US economy doesn't need China's cheap shit.

[Parkbandit]

Concur with what you wrote, except I’m not talking about like, talking about respect, little difference there :)


LOL.

[Solkern]

China's economy isn't suffering?

Their economy is growing at the slowest rate in decades, their exports are down (they are an export economy so this is a big deal), they have been pumping money into the economy to boost their economy via consumer spending and this has had little impact, businesses are closing down because they can no longer afford to stay in business, citizens are doing bank runs which has led to several banks being closed down, some large companies are moving out of China and to other countries to avoid the US tariffs, and investments in China have slowed down dramatically because again of the US tariffs.

You ain't gonna give Hong Kong credit for all of that or even a large portion of that.

I work in the banking sector with HSBC, China has always inflated numbers, always, SOEs have always been used to cover the downfall in China, Like I said China’s economy isn’t suffering from the trade deal, it’s suffering from a slew of other factors.

[Back]

No this was definitely you. It was years ago, but it was you. Dork.

And did you think I was being serious about wanting to hang out with you? How retarded are you? There has to be a limit to this at some point.

EDIT: Let’s hang out sometime. Not to be pals, but just so I can observe what a fucking lowlife creeper you are for entertainment purposes. Pretend it’s a documentary. A backumentary. A cuckumentary.

Yeah no, fuck face. Was not me. Too much weed and gape porn has addled your brain. You'll have to come up with a quote before I'll belive it. You've lied about this sort of shit before so you I know you don't give a fuck. You've also claimed I was texting you once in the past. Remember, I'm a tiny dick pussy. What would I do? Whip you with my scarf? Get real for once.

[Tgo01]

I work in the banking sector with HSBC, China has always inflated numbers, always, SOEs have always been used to cover the downfall in China, Like I said China’s economy isn’t suffering from the trade deal, it’s suffering from a slew of other factors.

It's suffering from a lot of shit at the moment. Point is China's economy is suffering and the US' is booming, why wouldn't the Chinese be desperate for a trade deal? The trade war with the US is clearly having no effect on the US and certainly isn't helping their country. You don't think companies moving their factories out of China and not investing in China isn't having an impact on the Chinese economy?

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Remember, I'm a tiny dick pussy.

We all know this.

[Solkern]

It's suffering from a lot of shit at the moment. Point is China's economy is suffering and the US' is booming, why wouldn't the Chinese be desperate for a trade deal? The trade war with the US is clearly having no effect on the US and certainly isn't helping their country. You don't think companies moving their factories out of China and not investing in China isn't having an impact on the Chinese economy?

Of course it’s having a factor and a giant impact, the Chinese just aren’t able to hide their struggles like they were able to before... but the trade deal isn’t the cause of suffering. That’s the only point I’m getting at.
The Chinese economy has been suffering for about 10 years now.

Edited: They aren’t desperate for a trade deal because their economy isn’t suffering without one. It was suffering before, now and it will still suffer afterwards. A trade deal won’t change that.

[Parkbandit]

Must be someone else because it wasnt me. I have told you I would not want you anywhere near my friends and family when you creepily said you wanted to hang out with me sometime.

Maybe it was your other login while you were banned?

OR

You could use the TDS-Shafted excuse of "Did you actually see me typing that specific post? Then I didn't do it!"

[Methais]

Yeah no, fuck face. Was not me. Too much weed and gape porn has addled your brain. You'll have to come up with a quote before I'll belive it. You've lied about this sort of shit before so you I know you don't give a fuck. You've also claimed I was texting you once in the past. Remember, I'm a tiny dick pussy. What would I do? Whip you with my scarf? Get real for once.

Nope, it was you. I don't give a rat's ass if you're too burnt out to remember it. It wasn't some super serious thread, but it was still funny that you said it considering what a pussy you are.


You've lied about this sort of shit before so you I know you don't give a fuck.

No I haven't. Sorry that you're such a little twat. I've brought up this specific thing before, which you denied then too, because who wouldn't deny it, even though you should be used to looking stupid by now.


You've also claimed I was texting you once in the past.

lol no I didn't. Fucking moron. First off you'd be way too stupid to find out my phone number.


Remember, I'm a tiny dick pussy.

Finally, some fucking honesty.


What would I do? Whip you with my scarf? Get real for once.

You would do absolutely nothing. That's the whole point is that you just keyboard warrior all day long but are really just some frail little bitch who pretends to be enlightened and wants free shit because you've been a failure for all of your life.

Know what you haven't denied though? Being a pedophile. Weird.

[Solkern]

Methais who was that guy that “tracked you down”?

[Methais]

Methais who was that guy that “tracked you down”?

That was Androidpk. Except he "tracked down" the wrong me and it took him probably 6+ months to realize it despite all the hints being dropped. Because he's really stupid. :lol:

[Tgo01]

Holy shit. According to RCP Trump's approval rating is the highest it's been since a month after he was sworn in. Who knew the Democrats pushing a fake impeachment through the House and constantly taking the side of our enemies and terrorists would endear Trump with Americans?

[Back]

Nope, it was you. I don't give a rat's ass if you're too burnt out to remember it. It wasn't some super serious thread, but it was still funny that you said it considering what a pussy you are.

No I haven't. Sorry that you're such a little twat. I've brought up this specific thing before, which you denied then too, because who wouldn't deny it, even though you should be used to looking stupid by now.

lol no I didn't. Fucking moron. First off you'd be way too stupid to find out my phone number.

Finally, some fucking honesty.

You would do absolutely nothing. That's the whole point is that you just keyboard warrior all day long but are really just some frail little bitch who pretends to be enlightened and wants free shit because you've been a failure for all of your life.

Know what you haven't denied though? Being a pedophile. Weird.

Yeah, quote or it didn't happen. Thanks for playing.

[Methais]

Yeah, quote or it didn't happen. Thanks for playing.

It happened, quote or not. Doesn't matter if you're in denial. It's not like you're known for your honesty in the first place. It's not really that serious either. Maybe it is to you, but you'e a tard, so there's that.

Why haven't you denied being a pedo though?

[Taernath]

I'm sensing a lot of sexual tension in this thread.

[Parkbandit]

Remember, I'm a tiny dick pussy. What would I do? Whip you with my scarf? Get real for once.

Intellectual, factual, accurate....

THESE are the types of posts that will lose you the championship belt.

Stop it.

[RichardCranium]

I'm sensing a lot of sexual tension in this thread.

The Ole dick twist.

[Back]

Holy shit. According to RCP Trump's approval rating is the highest it's been since a month after he was sworn in. Who knew the Democrats pushing a fake impeachment through the House and constantly taking the side of our enemies and terrorists would endear Trump with Americans?

Hey, when your approval rating is in trouble, or you are getting impeached, start a war with an enemy that is 14th in the world in military spending that you say is the biggest evil on the planet. Better yet, post some memes about it on Twitter. Boom. Instant approval.

[Parkbandit]

Hey, when your approval rating is in trouble, or you are getting impeached, start a war with an enemy that is 14th in the world in military spending that you say is the biggest evil on the planet. Better yet, post some memes about it on Twitter. Boom. Instant approval.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/r5SxJYcU21Auk/giphy.gif

[Gelston]

Back is a retard.

[Ashlander]

Back is a retard.

Back makes retards look intelligent.

[Methais]

Hey, when your approval rating is in trouble, or you are getting impeached, start a war with an enemy that is 14th in the world in military spending that you say is the biggest evil on the planet. Better yet, post some memes about it on Twitter. Boom. Instant approval.

His approval rating has been going up since the laughable impeachment vote that still hasn't been sent over to the Senate despite it supposedly being so super duper important.

Are you capable of not being retarded for even 10 minutes? That was a rhetorical question, as we all already know the answer.

[ClydeR]

Trump says that Iran will never get a nuke..




https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENmyv-KUYAIHAt5?format=png&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENmw2dSU8AY7Zlx?format=png&name=small

[Seran]

Trump says that Iran will never get a nuke..




https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENmyv-KUYAIHAt5?format=png&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENmw2dSU8AY7Zlx?format=png&name=small

Wag the dog.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

well they might get one, from us.

[ClydeR]

Our military operations in Iraq are being refocused to address the Iranian threat..



Washington (CNN)The US-led military coalition fighting ISIS announced Sunday that it's temporarily stopping its counter-ISIS missions in order to focus on protecting Iraqi bases and coalition forces there from Iranian-backed militias.

More... (https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/05/politics/anti-isis-fight-coalition-iraq-iran/index.html)

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Our military operations in Iraq are being refocused to address the Iranian threat..

They should, right? Iran already attacked our Embassy this last week.

Or are you saying you think this is all a result of us killing the orchestrator of the attack and our bases would otherwise be safe from attack? If so, please see my above sentence.

[Candor]

Hey, when your approval rating is in trouble, or you are getting impeached, start a war with an enemy that is 14th in the world in military spending that you say is the biggest evil on the planet. Better yet, post some memes about it on Twitter. Boom. Instant approval.

On the other hand, if you're so afraid of doing anything because of your approval rating or impeachment, do nothing. So when an enemy carries out an attack against American assets that you were warned about and people die, your approval rating can really go down the toilet (and rightly so).

Trump cannot possibly do anything right in the minds of some liberals.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I seriously love the dems rushing to defend Iran and the terrorists there. With literally no information, they have condemned. Exactly like the Ukraine call, there will be a congresswide debrief on Wednesday, but dems have already called him a war criminal, a monster, out of control, etc etc etc TDS forever.

Now Schitt wants to have open hearings about it... BEFORE seeing the debrief. Nevermind the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs has already publicly said it was merited.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/06/adam-schiff-calls-for-open-hearings-as-trumps-iran-moves-stoke-tensions.html

This is what Trump getting reelected looks like. Enjoy the ride!

[Seizer]

It's almost as if people don't remember or choose not to remember when this happened. Then again, our previous president could do no wrong. :shrug:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/oct/20/obama-hails-death-gaddafi

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

It's almost as if people don't remember or choose not to remember when this happened. Then again, our previous president could do no wrong. :shrug:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/oct/20/obama-hails-death-gaddafi

Obama has been quiet on this - and rightly so. He killed a few foreign leaders himself, and gets why you do it.

[Seran]

It's almost as if people don't remember or choose not to remember when this happened. Then again, our previous president could do no wrong. :shrug:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/oct/20/obama-hails-death-gaddafi

Gaddafi's own people killed him, not Obama. Huge difference here kid.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Gaddafi's own people killed him, not Obama. Huge difference here kid.

That's true. We just sent air support backing the french and british I think, ultimately backing the rebels, who caught and killed him.

[Tgo01]

Gaddafi's own people killed him, not Obama. Huge difference here kid.

So you're saying if Trump just supported a bunch of rebels and used our superior air power to kill everyone else standing in the way and the rebels (which we were backing) ultimately killed this terrorist then that would be okay?

I love watching Democrats engage in mental gymnastics so grand that it should be an Olympic sport.

[Wrathbringer]

On the other hand, if you're so afraid of doing anything because of your approval rating or impeachment, do nothing. So when an enemy carries out an attack against American assets that you were warned about and people die, your approval rating can really go down the toilet (and rightly so).

Trump cannot possibly do anything right in the minds of some liberals.

Looks like your approval rating really went down the toilet (and rightly so). :lol:

[~Rocktar~]

Maryam Rajavi: Qassem Soleimani was a vicious criminal, it is time to evict the mullahs from the region


https://saraacarter.com/maryam-rajavi-qassem-soleimani-was-a-vicious-criminal-it-is-time-to-evict-the-mullahs-from-the-region/

[Neveragain]

https://saraacarter.com/maryam-rajavi-qassem-soleimani-was-a-vicious-criminal-it-is-time-to-evict-the-mullahs-from-the-region/

Once again the Democrats find themselves on the wrong side of history.

[Candor]

It's almost as if people don't remember or choose not to remember when this happened. Then again, our previous president could do no wrong. :shrug:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/oct/20/obama-hails-death-gaddafi

In the minds of some liberals, Obama could do no wrong and Trump can do no right. And the media is working to support this lie...

https://nypost.com/2019/11/20/when-the-villain-is-obama-not-trump-news-suddenly-becomes-not-worth-reporting/

[Solkern]

I seriously love the dems rushing to defend Iran and the terrorists there. With literally no information, they have condemned. Exactly like the Ukraine call, there will be a congresswide debrief on Wednesday, but dems have already called him a war criminal, a monster, out of control, etc etc etc TDS forever.

Now Schitt wants to have open hearings about it... BEFORE seeing the debrief. Nevermind the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs has already publicly said it was merited.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/06/adam-schiff-calls-for-open-hearings-as-trumps-iran-moves-stoke-tensions.html

This is what Trump getting reelected looks like. Enjoy the ride!


I’ll disagree with part of this, definitely QPQ, everyone knew it was, and they all knew before the impeachment stuff

[Sile]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/iran-qassem-soleimani-us-kerman-1.5417178

[Methais]

Gaddafi's own people killed him, not Obama. Huge difference here kid.

HE CALLED YOU KID OMG SO OWNED GOOD LUCK EVER RECOVERING FROM THIS

[Methais]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/iran-qassem-soleimani-us-kerman-1.5417178

https://media0.giphy.com/media/laTwXKcWsVFni/source.gif

[Keller]

well they might get one, from us.

This is not normal.

[ClydeR]

I seriously love the dems rushing to defend Iran and the terrorists there. With literally no information, they have condemned. Exactly like the Ukraine call, there will be a congresswide debrief on Wednesday, but dems have already called him a war criminal, a monster, out of control, etc etc etc TDS forever.


If you trust President Trump, you don't need a hearing.

[Methais]

If you read the TV Guide, you don't need a TV.

This is correct.

https://66.media.tumblr.com/51ce16bb44223056213ea9a6428a6173/tumblr_ooxu17XYqM1v9n68ko1_500.gif

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

If you trust President Trump, you don't need a hearing.

In a normal world, 100% of the things he does as President would not require hearings and testimony. We aren't in a normal situation - the liberals have weaponized hearings and oversight to the point of making them pointless. I, as a voter, no longer care what they investigate and frankly don't care anymore what Trump does.

I am fully polarized and will never vote for a dem in this environment. I did in the past, but no more. The 2 party system is broken and I don't want socialism, so I'm picking Republicans, even the shitty ones like Trump.

[Solkern]

In a normal world, 100% of the things he does as President would not require hearings and testimony. We aren't in a normal situation - the liberals have weaponized hearings and oversight to the point of making them pointless. I, as a voter, no longer care what they investigate and frankly don't care anymore what Trump does.

I am fully polarized and will never vote for a dem in this environment. I did in the past, but no more. The 2 party system is broken and I don't want socialism, so I'm picking Republicans, even the shitty ones like Trump.

And the republicans haven’t or have never done this?

[Sile]

And the republicans haven’t or have never done this?

Why is that even a defense?

If you act like a piece of shit and your defense is others acted like a piece of shit, people are still going to tell you that you are a piece of shit.

[Methais]

And the republicans haven’t or have never done this?

They have, but not to this extent as far as I can remember. Even Clinton's impeachment got 5 House democrat votes. Not that that makes his impeachment any less retarded or anything though. It's still shitty no matter who is doing it if their only real reason is salty butthurt, as was the case with Clinton's and with Trump's impeachments.

[Back]

Why is that even a defense?

If you act like a piece of shit and your defense is others acted like a piece of shit, people are still going to tell you that you are a piece of shit.

Someone should tell that to Trump.

[Methais]

Someone should tell that to me.

Yes.

[Parkbandit]

This is not normal.

More normal than someone cheering that a cat 5 hurricane was coming ashore in a certain area because of the way that area voted in an election.

[Methais]

More normal than someone cheering that a cat 5 hurricane was coming ashore in a certain area because of the way that area voted in an election.

Keller's butthurt is massively underrated on the butthurt scale. I'd say probably a solid 7, possibly an 8.

Maybe when he shows back up in 2 months to sniff his own farts again it'll be up to 9.

[Parkbandit]

Keller's butthurt is massively underrated on the butthurt scale. I'd say probably a solid 7, possibly an 8.

Maybe when he shows back up in 2 months to sniff his own farts again it'll be up to 9.

Dude.. you have no idea. He makes Androidpk look less creepy.. and I didn't think that was possible.

[Methais]

Dude.. you have no idea. He makes Androidpk look less creepy.. and I didn't think that was possible.

At least pk only tries (but still fails) to stalk adults, as far as I know anyway.

[Parkbandit]

At least pk only tries (but still fails) to stalk adults.

Exactly.

[Keller]

More normal than someone cheering that a cat 5 hurricane was coming ashore in a certain area because of the way that area voted in an election.

On the one hand you've got a natural disaster disproportionately affecting people whose ignorance and/or apathy influenced the severity of that natural disaster.

On the other hand you've got a flippant take on nuclear war between the US/[allies TBD] and Iran/China/Russia.

You're senile boomer.

[Sile]

On the other hand you've got a flippant take on nuclear war between the US/[allies TBD] and Iran/China/Russia.

You're senile boomer.

If you think China or Russia is going to defend Iran, you haven't been paying attention.

Where were they when the US led a non UN invasion of Iraq? Oh yeah, nowhere.

[Keller]

If you think China or Russia is going to defend Iran, you haven't been paying attention.

Where were they when the US led a non UN invasion of Iraq? Oh yeah, nowhere.

Iraq didn't even HAVE WMDs, let alone use them.

I'm not sure what the US's invasion of Iraq has to do with how China and Russia would respond if the US used a nuclear weapon against Iran.

[Parkbandit]

On the one hand you've got a natural disaster disproportionately affecting people whose ignorance and/or apathy influenced the severity of that natural disaster.

On the other hand you've got a flippant take on nuclear war between the US/[allies TBD] and Iran/China/Russia.

You're senile boomer.

On the one hand you've got a country that is the #1 state sponsor of terrorism in the world and has been since the 80's and has prayed for the destruction of the western world.

On the other hand, you've got a flippant take on a natural disaster where you wish death upon an entire area of your country because they have a different political view as yours.

You're a creepy pedophile.

[Solkern]

If you think China or Russia is going to defend Iran, you haven't been paying attention.

Where were they when the US led a non UN invasion of Iraq? Oh yeah, nowhere.



I know they both will help defend Iran.

[Methais]

I know they both will help defend Iran.

Trump must be the worst Russian puppet ever, just like he's the worst white supremacist ever.

[Solkern]

Why is that even a defense?

If you act like a piece of shit and your defense is others acted like a piece of shit, people are still going to tell you that you are a piece of shit.


When did I apply this as any sort of defense, I was referring to his comment about Dems doing, and it looked like he was making it like the republicans have never done something like that.

[Gelston]

I know they both will help defend Iran.

China would lose way more in a war to us then just letting Iran go under. Russia might try to defend, but China relies on us as much as we rely on them. And honestly, Russia isn't shit.

[Solkern]

They have, but not to this extent as far as I can remember. Even Clinton's impeachment got 5 House democrat votes. Not that that makes his impeachment any less retarded or anything though. It's still shitty no matter who is doing it if their only real reason is salty butthurt, as was the case with Clinton's and with Trump's impeachments.


Gotcha and makes sense.

[Keller]

Trump must be the worst Russian puppet ever, just like he's the worst white supremacist ever.

Russia's interest is in destabilizing the geopolitical equilibrium.

They don't give two fucks about Trump other than that he helps them achieve their goal.

You're smarter than this.

[Solkern]

China would lose way more in a war to us then just letting Iran go under. Russia might try to defend, but China relies on us as much as we rely on them. And honestly, Russia isn't shit.

Completely agree, but it is China we are talking about, and they don’t think rationally.

[Gelston]

Completely agree, but it is China we are talking about, and they don’t think rationally.

I think if anything, China would force Iran to cut that shit out. They depend on the Gulf being open. Iran's first move would be to try to close it.

[Gelston]

I personally wouldn't mind just bombing the shit out of Iran's military sites and then just leaving the Middle East in general. There is nothing there for the US anymore. Saudi supplies us with about 1% of our oil imports and we don't get anything else from the region. Israel can take care of itself. I don't care about them. I think we should focus more on our hemisphere. Mexico first, then South America.

[Solkern]

Trump must be the worst Russian puppet ever, just like he's the worst white supremacist ever.

No idea about any of that. Pretty sure Putin does have shit on Trump, to what extent I don’t know. I personally don’t think Putin has any control whatsoever on trump, I just think trump admires Putin a lot.

[Solkern]

I think if anything, China would force Iran to cut that shit out. They depend on the Gulf being open. Iran's first move would be to try to close it.


China would just see it as a chance to gain a stronger foot hold and larger presence in the Middle East,

But you also could be right, China does get more crude from the ME than the states....but China would still defend Iran.

[Seizer]

HE CALLED YOU KID OMG SO OWNED GOOD LUCK EVER RECOVERING FROM THIS
Definitely a crushing blow to my ego. I type this through a blurred lens of tears.

[Solkern]

China would lose way more in a war to us then just letting Iran go under. Russia might try to defend, but China relies on us as much as we rely on them. And honestly, Russia isn't shit.

I wouldn’t underestimate Russia, and what they are capable of.

[Gelston]

I wouldn’t underestimate Russia, and what they are capable of.

They are capable of losing their only Aircraft carrier to a construction crane.

[Solkern]

They are capable of losing their only Aircraft carrier to a construction crane.

Hahaha!

While of course Russia can’t match up to America’s might, but The biggest thing Russia has is not to be affected/effected by public outcry.

Vietnam is a perfect example.

[Parkbandit]

They are capable of losing their only Aircraft carrier to a construction crane.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/TD0NYrLpcnsTm/giphy.gif

[Methais]

Russia's interest is in destabilizing the geopolitical equilibrium.

They don't give two fucks about Trump other than that he helps them achieve their goal.

You're smarter than this.

Wait, what happened to TRUMP IS WORKING FOR RUSSIA OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG COLLUSION & TRUMP'S A PUTIN PUPPET!!!!!!!111 that your side was shitting all over the place for a good 3 years and opened countless investigations into?

When are you people going to make up your minds?

[Keller]

Wait, what happened to TRUMP IS WORKING FOR RUSSIA OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG COLLUSION & TRUMP'S A PUTIN PUPPET!!!!!!!111 that your side was shitting all over the place for a good 3 years and opened countless investigations into?

When are you people going to make up your minds?

Maybe you're just not as smart as I was giving you credit for being.

Carry on.

[Methais]

Maybe you're just not as smart as I was giving you credit for being.

Carry on.

I'm not talking about whatever Russia's motivations are. Maybe you're just not as smart as I was giving you credit for being, since you seem to need things spelled out for you like Backlash now.

I'm talking about how your party of tards spent 3+ years accusing Trump of being a Russian puppet, Russian collusion, Putin's stooge, etc. Are you saying that didn't happen now? Or did you just know it was bullshit all along?

[Solkern]

I'm not talking about whatever Russia's motivations are. Maybe you're just not as smart as I was giving you credit for being, since you seem to need things spelled out for you like Backlash now.

I'm talking about how your party of tards spent 3+ years accusing Trump of being a Russian puppet, Russian collusion, Putin's stooge, etc. Are you saying that didn't happen now? Or did you just know it was bullshit all along?


I think it’s kinda like, that little boy admiring all the cool kids in school, and would do anything to be cool too.

[Keller]

I'm not talking about whatever Russia's motivations are. Maybe you're just not as smart as I was giving you credit for being, since you seem to need things spelled out for you like Backlash now.

I'm talking about how your party of tards spent 3+ years accusing Trump of being a Russian puppet, Russian collusion, Putin's stooge, etc. Are you saying that didn't happen now? Or did you just know it was bullshit all along?

So is your position that Russia using Trump to destabilize the geopolitical equilibrium is inconsistent with Trump being a Russian pupper or Putin's stooge?

My position is those align perfectly. So I'm just not sure what you're trying to say, Methais.

Russia interfered in our 2016 election to the benefit of the Trump campaign. Trump knew about it and encouraged it. I think that was mutually beneficial as Russia got their man in the White House and Trump got to be President.

I'm not sure if Trump is too much of a narcissist to not realize he is being played by Putin or if he is willingly going along with it. I'm conflicted on whether Trump is an evil genius or just a fool.

[Methais]

So is your position that Russia using Trump to destabilize the geopolitical equilibrium is inconsistent with Trump being a Russian pupper or Putin's stooge?

My position is those align perfectly. So I'm just not sure what you're trying to say, Methais.

Russia interfered in our 2016 election to the benefit of the Trump campaign. Trump knew about it and encouraged it. I think that was mutually beneficial as Russia got their man in the White House and Trump got to be President.

I'm not sure if Trump is too much of a narcissist to not realize he is being played by Putin or if he is willingly going along with it. I'm conflicted on whether Trump is an evil genius or just a fool.

According to the left for the past 3 years, Trump literally works for Putin.

[Gelston]

Can you believe how much Keller enjoys the smells of his own farts?

[Methais]

Can you believe how much Keller enjoys the smells of his own farts?

Yes.

[Keller]

According to the left for the past 3 years, Trump literally works for Putin.

There is a fair amount of nuance in what Democratic politicians and the liberal media have been saying.

The mainstream conservative media generally have ignored that nuance and I blame them for your poor understanding of what those individuals have said about the President and his role in Russia's geopolitical ambitions.

[Keller]

Also, what do you monsters eat that you don't enjoy the aroma of your flatulence from time to time?

[Gelston]

Also, what do you monsters eat that you don't enjoy the aroma of your flatulence from time to time?

A Christmas present, Keller confirms he enjoys the smell of his own farts. Explains why his head is shoved so far up his own ass.

[Methais]

There is a fair amount of nuance in what Democratic politicians and the liberal media have been saying.

The mainstream conservative media generally have ignored that nuance and I blame them for your poor understanding of what those individuals have said about the President and his role in Russia's geopolitical ambitions.

I'm going based off of what elected democrats have said.


A Christmas present, Keller confirms he enjoys the smell of his own farts. Explains why his head is shoved so far up his own ass.

This is correct.

[Keller]

I'm going based off of what elected democrats have said.

Great.

I assume you can find at least 25 instances of elected democrats saying that Trump is working for Russia since the "left" has been saying "literally" that for 3 years.

[Methais]

Great.

I assume you can find at least 25 instances of elected democrats saying that Trump is working for Russia since the "left" has been saying "literally" that for 3 years.

If I felt like taking the time to do it, probably so. It's not like it's a rare thing to hear these idiots saying.

It usually goes something like:

- Retard elected democrat (and/or some butthurt lefsits "journalist") makes some wild accusation with no evidence.
- Retards like Backlash assume it's gospel because they're stupid.
- Other elected democrats hop on board.
- Media hops on board.
- Retards like Back double down.
- Investigation happens and comes up with nothing.
- Democrats and the media can't accept this and insist that Trump's working for Russia anyway.
- You show up, sniff your own farts, then deny that any of this happened.
- You get laughed at
- You make another stupid post talking about how you just owned everyone
- You get laughed at some more

etc.


Are you saying that kind of shit hasn't been happening for 3+ years? Ease up on the methane if so.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

He's just trolling. He has no interest in what you are saying.

[RichardCranium]

Also, what do you monsters eat that you don't enjoy the aroma of your flatulence from time to time?

Top sirloin well done with ketchup.

[Sile]

I know they both will help defend Iran.

With troops on the ground?

Want to place a friendly wager on this?

You may be right, but I highly doubt it.

I also highly doubt there will be any invasion of Iran at this point. So it's very unlikely either one of us will ever have to pay out.

Edit: Just to add, crying or using veto power at the UN isn't what I was inferring to. Because we all know how useless the UN has been recently, Almost as useless as the Warsaw Pact ended up being.

[Sile]

Top sirloin well done with ketchup.

Bacon Wrapped Filet Mignon, covered in cheez wiz.

[Keller]

If I felt like taking the time to do it, probably so.

Didn't think so.

[Keller]

Top sirloin well done with ketchup.

It's even worse than I'd imagined! :)

[Back]

Anyone who says they are not sniffing their own farts is a liar.

[Gelston]

Anyone who says they are not sniffing their own farts is a liar.

It is about enjoying your own farts, you dumb fuck illiterate retard.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

My farts smell like success and prosperity from a good work ethic and being humbly intelligent

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Iran just committed to the ‘im gonna get fucked up’ crowd.

[Gelston]

Iran just committed to the ‘im gonna get fucked up’ crowd.

Yeah, they fired missiles at a US base directly from Iran and claimed credit for it. That doesn't generally work out for anyone that has done it in the past.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

And PS, fuck them all up.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I predict by morning there are a bunch of Iranian sites bombed. Trump shouldn't take this shit. Lets go to war.

[Taernath]

I don't get it, weren't a bunch of you saying Iran wouldn't do shit?

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I don't get it, weren't a bunch of you saying Iran wouldn't do shit?

I never said that. I'm frankly glad they are grandstanding. They are going to get fucked up. It's time terrorist in the world feared existing.

[Sile]

I predict by morning there are a bunch of Iranian sites bombed. Trump shouldn't take this shit. Lets go to war.

I doubt it will go to full out war, but I can see an Arleigh Burke near the Strait launching their full tomahawk payload at Iranian sites. They can carry quite a large amount.

[Sile]

I don't get it, weren't a bunch of you saying Iran wouldn't do shit?

Yeah, we can be wrong at times.

We can all agree we never expected Iran to act this quickly.

[BriarFox]

I'm sure Iran feels very important right now -- I give it 24 hours.

[Sile]

I'm sure Iran feels very important right now -- I give it 24 hours.

It's early in the day over there right now. I'm sure when the counter attack happens, it'll happen during the night.

[Fierna]

I doubt it will go to full out war...

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/GrouchyScholarlyFirecrest-size_restricted.gif

[Sile]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/GrouchyScholarlyFirecrest-size_restricted.gif

That only works when the two nations have equal ability.

[Alfster]

Iran has a surprising amount of weaponry. Conventional warfare they're fucked. Play the afghan card and this shit will drag on forever

[Sile]

Iran has a surprising amount of weaponry. Conventional warfare they're fucked. Play the afghan card and this shit will drag on forever

Yeah, they are well armed, probably the best armed of the states in the middle east. Their strength lies in their missiles, but still limited reach, southern Europe and Israel at best.

Their Air Force and Navy are extremely dated though.

I highly doubt the US would do a land war with Iran. They will just bleed them out, have their economy crash(which is already very fragile) until Iran will be forced to come back with hat in hand.

[Sile]

Copied from a military forum I'm on:

NBC’s Tehran bureau is reporting that there has been a second wave of missiles launched. I don’t know the sourcing on that; I’m only bothering to repeat it because it’s coming from non-State foreign media who are on the ground.

[Methais]

Didn't think so.

Like I’m gonna waste more than 30 seconds at a time on you.

If it’s any consolation to you, I sat down to take a dump a few minutes ago and then as I was launching logs I was like “Oh yeah that reminds me, I wonder what kind of stupid Keller is posting today.”


It is about enjoying your own farts, you dumb fuck illiterate retard.

Just when I thought Back couldn’t get anymore dense, he does it again.

[Neveragain]

On the one hand you've got a natural disaster disproportionately affecting people whose ignorance and/or apathy influenced the severity of that natural disaster.

Because you have never used a petro based product in your life.

This is virtue signaling to the extreme. People like you are trash.

[Sile]

Here is an article that just popped up for me, original article in arabic which i don't speak or read :

* tasnimnews.com-فوری اختصاصی تسنیم موج دوم حملات موشکی ایران به مقر پایگاه آمریکایی آغاز شد.pdf

The Tasnim , a few minutes before the start of the second wave of missile attacks. These attacks Iran, the headquarters of the American base about an hour and a half after the first attacks started.

In the first attacks, more than a dozen missiles were fired at the US base at Einless.

Public Relations of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps announced an official statement hours ago about the first attacks:

Bismillah al-Qasem al-Jabbarin

The Islamic Ummah is a bitter, great nation and martyr of Islamic Iran

The time has come to fulfill the promise of the sincere and with the permission of God Almighty this morning in response to the criminal and terrorist operations of the American invaders and the vengeance of the cowardly assassination and martyrdom of the heroic and sacrificial commander of the Quds Force, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps commander Sardar Parafakhm In a successful operation called Operation Martyr Soleimani, the brave warriors of the Army Corps of Space, with the codex or Zahra, fired dozens of ground-to-ground missiles at the US-based terrorist and occupation base of the US-based al-Assad Terrorist Army, whose details subsequently Acknowledgment M. The free people of Iran and the Islamic world will come.

The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps congratulates this great triumph on the Islamic Ummah and the great and devoted people of Islamic Iran.

1. We warn the Great Satan, the vicious and arrogant American regime that any further misconduct or mobility and rape will face more painful and cruel responses.

2. United States governments that have surrendered their bases to the terrorist army will be warned that any territories will be subject to any form of hostile and aggressive acts against the Islamic Republic of Iran.

3. By no means do we consider the Zionist regime in these crimes separate from the American criminal regime.

4. We urge the American people to call on American troops from the region to prevent further casualties and not allow the lives of its military to be further endangered by the ever-increasing hatred of the anti-US regime.

[Stolis]

Yeah, they are well armed, probably the best armed of the states in the middle east. Their strength lies in their missiles, but still limited reach, southern Europe and Israel at best.

Their Air Force and Navy are extremely dated though.

I highly doubt the US would do a land war with Iran. They will just bleed them out, have their economy crash(which is already very fragile) until Iran will be forced to come back with hat in hand.

I would have guessed Israel over Iran, mostly because of the Air Force, and the "hey everyone let's change the subject" when it came to nuclear capabilities. I'm not sure if Iran has them?

[Sile]

I would have guessed Israel over Iran, mostly because of the Air Force, and the "hey everyone let's change the subject" when it came to nuclear capabilities. I'm not sure if Iran has them?

Israel actually has a small but very modern capability, compared to some of the larger forces over there. Turkey is the Largest Force in the area for Nato. But I doubt Iran will kick that ~ ̶b̶e̶e̶~ Hornets nest.

Israel's power come from fast attack air craft, and very specialized Urban Warfare. Along with some nuclear launch subs. Outside of that, they are not very powerful. They have the power where it counts though, and US is their big brother if they need anything more.


Edit, added Hornet

[Alfster]

I just hope this administration has some sort of plan. They mistakenly sent a letter to Iraq that they were leaving. It's absurd.

I also hope we didn't lure him into the country to be a mediator for peace talks but instead dropped some bombs on him. If we did, we are terrorists.

[Sile]

I just hope this administration has some sort of plan. They mistakenly sent a letter to Iraq that they were leaving. It's absurd.

I also hope we didn't lure him into the country to be a mediator for peace talks but instead dropped some bombs on him. If we did, we are terrorists.

Pulling out of Iraq would be a bad idea and only help the Iranians long term. A power vacuum in Iraq will only embolden the Iranians.

[Tgo01]

I don't get it, weren't a bunch of you saying Iran wouldn't do shit?

I did. I still don't consider this shit. From what I've read so far there weren't any casualties and Iran says they will stop attacking if the US doesn't respond to their attack.

They had to do something after Democrats and the left made them out to be the victims, but they still ain't gonna do shit. I only see them doing more if the US does more.

[Taernath]

Iran is threatening to strike Israel and UAE if they get bombed.

And because Trump is absolutely calm under pressure and thinks things through, it will not escalate and this will be the end of it.

Nah, the US and Iran right now:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZSoJDUD_bU

[~Rocktar~]

BREAKING: Trump Responds To Iranian Attacks, Pentagon Releases Statement


President Donald Trump responded to Iran attacks U.S. forces in Iraq on Tuesday night by announcing that damage assessments that are taking place appear to show that minimal, if any, damage was done.

Trump tweeted, “All is well! Missiles launched from Iran at two military bases located in Iraq. Assessment of casualties & damages taking place now. So far, so good! We have the most powerful and well equipped military anywhere in the world, by far! I will be making a statement tomorrow morning.”

https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-trump-responds-to-iranian-attacks-pentagon-releases-statement

[Tgo01]

I did. I still don't consider this shit. From what I've read so far there weren't any casualties and Iran says they will stop attacking if the US doesn't respond to their attack.

They had to do something after Democrats and the left made them out to be the victims, but they still ain't gonna do shit. I only see them doing more if the US does more.

IF the reports are true that no Americans were killed or severely injured then Trump should just let it end here and let Iran think they "won" this one.

We took out their top exporter of terrorism and they maybe did some damage to a couple of our bases. I say that is a good trade.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

They mistakenly sent a letter to Iraq that they were leaving. It's absurd.

I agree. I also believe you can't blame it on Trump. His letter would have been incoherent and rambling.

I'm totally serious. It's not Trump who sent the letter, some underling fucked up.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I also hope we didn't lure him into the country to be a mediator for peace talks but instead dropped some bombs on him. If we did, we are terrorists.

You are believing the Iran press secretary if you believe that.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Iran is threatening to strike Israel and UAE if they get bombed.

And because Trump is absolutely calm under pressure and thinks things through, it will not escalate and this will be the end of it.

Nah, the US and Iran right now:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZSoJDUD_bU

quoted to gloat over you later.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I (honestly) don't believe Trump will do anything after this intentional miss. Let's Iran keeps it dignity, and no war.

I (honestly) wish he'd fuck all of Iran up. They are terrorists. Take out all of their infrastructure - air bases, navy, everything. Then just sit back and watch them disintegrate.

[Neveragain]

IF the reports are true that no Americans were killed or severely injured then Trump should just let it end here and let Iran think they "won" this one.

We took out their top exporter of terrorism and they maybe did some damage to a couple of our bases. I say that is a good trade.

I think if the reports show that there has been little damage to our bases, it shows that their missile capabilities are garbage and we take that opportunity to wipe out their launch capabilities.

Now that Iran has threatened Israel and UAE, I don't think there's any other choice.

Iran has proven time and time again that they won't stop sponsoring terrorism.

[Sile]

Ukraine International Flight 752, a Boeing 737, crashed outside Tehran.

Still seems like there is more happening.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/plane-crash-tehran-1.5418562

[Fierna]

Ukraine International Flight 752, a Boeing 737, crashed outside Tehran.

Still seems like there is more happening.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/plane-crash-tehran-1.5418562

There’s a lot of wierd shit happening. I think the US casualties from the attack are significant (like low double digits. I say this because Drumpf would’ve came out with more ,” Iran losers tried attacking us but we stopped them. Haha they suck. Losers!”

But this very uncharacteristic, “everyone keep calm, everything is fine!” tweet is scaring the shit out of me.

[Seran]

So you're saying if Trump just supported a bunch of rebels and used our superior air power to kill everyone else standing in the way and the rebels (which we were backing) ultimately killed this terrorist then that would be okay?

Yes, because this is what American armed forces and CIA operations have been doing for the last fifty years. Afghanistan, Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Turkey, Serbia, Panama, Hondorus, Iran.. you name it. Indirect intervention via arms or monetary aid has been the MO of our country since WWII

[Sile]

There’s a lot of wierd shit happening. I think the US casualties from the attack are significant (like low double digits. I say this because Drumpf would’ve came out with more ,” Iran losers tried attacking us but we stopped them. Haha they suck. Losers!”

But this very uncharacteristic, “everyone keep calm, everything is fine!” tweet is scaring the shit out of me.

Most news I can find so far, there are little or no US casualties but there are Iraqi causalities. Also it seems like all the missiles were tracked, and instead of shooting them down they just went into a shelter position.

Shelter would give the answer why little to no casualties.

I do agree with you the last statement from Trump was uncharacteristic

[Parkbandit]

But this very uncharacteristic, “everyone keep calm, everything is fine!” tweet is scaring the shit out of me.

You poor thing you.

Maybe you should go hide under your bed.

[Tgo01]

Yes, because this is what American armed forces and CIA operations have been doing for the last fifty years. Afghanistan, Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Turkey, Serbia, Panama, Hondorus, Iran.. you name it. Indirect intervention via arms or monetary aid has been the MO of our country since WWII

Jump through those hoops. JUMP!

[Sile]

Indirect intervention via arms or monetary aid has been the MO of Every Power since the invention of warfare

Fixed

[Solkern]

With troops on the ground?

Want to place a friendly wager on this?

You may be right, but I highly doubt it.

I also highly doubt there will be any invasion of Iran at this point. So it's very unlikely either one of us will ever have to pay out.

Edit: Just to add, crying or using veto power at the UN isn't what I was inferring to. Because we all know how useless the UN has been recently, Almost as useless as the Warsaw Pact ended up being.

Well if you limit the scope of “defend” to just ground troops, China probably wouldn’t do that, Russia on the other hand will.
If you keep the scope to just “defend” by any means, then I’d be happy to take that bet :D


But it looks like it won’t get to that anyways... and if it did.. I might need to come back to the states... don’t wanna live in the country of the enemy!

[Tgo01]

CNN had Massoumeh Ebtekar as a guest to talk shit about Trump and America. Back during the Iranian hostage crisis this woman said if the US government tried to send troops in to free the hostages then all of the hostages should be executed. She even said she herself would be willing to pick up a gun and shoot them if she had to.

THIS is the person CNN has on air to talk shit about Trump and the US.

The past 3+ years you shitheads bitched about Trump calling the news the enemy of the people and here they are proving they are the enemy of the people.

But none of this matters to you I'm sure, hating Trump is the most important thing your life right now and any distraction from that must be tossed aside so you can focus on your one main goal.

Oh and for those people who say I just make shit up here is a link to CNN's shit.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2020/01/07/amanpour-massoumeh-ebtekar-soleimani-iran.cnn

[Gelston]

Most news I can find so far, there are little or no US casualties but there are Iraqi causalities. Also it seems like all the missiles were tracked, and instead of shooting them down they just went into a shelter position.

Shelter would give the answer why little to no casualties.

I do agree with you the last statement from Trump was uncharacteristic

I know this was before stuff came in, but no casualties from US or Iraq. Looks like it was a save face attack. Iran is telling its people they killed 80 US troops though, but has said it is done unless we retaliate.

[Gelston]

Well if you limit the scope of “defend” to just ground troops, China probably wouldn’t do that, Russia on the other hand will.
If you keep the scope to just “defend” by any means, then I’d be happy to take that bet :D


But it looks like it won’t get to that anyways... and if it did.. I might need to come back to the states... don’t wanna live in the country of the enemy!

Last time Russia and US met on the ground this happened... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khasham

[Taernath]

quoted to gloat over you later.

Nothing there to gloat about. You're the one baying for blood, I just want this stupid shit to end.

[Solkern]

I know this was before stuff came in, but no casualties from US or Iraq. Looks like it was a save face attack. Iran is telling its people they killed 80 US troops though, but has said it is done unless we retaliate.

My Marine friends in the embassy told me the were notified before the attack occurred

[Solkern]

Last time Russia and US met on the ground this happened... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khasham

On 7 February 2018, the U.S.-led coalition, established in 2014 to counter the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), delivered massive air and artillery strikes on the Syrian pro-government forces near the town of Khasham, or Al Tabiyeh,

I wouldn’t call massive air and artillery strikes meeting on the ground....


U.S. forces were in constant contact with the official Russian liaison officer posted in Deir ez-Zor throughout the engagement and only opened fire after they had received assurances that no regular Russian troops were in action or at risk.

And on top of it, that was a PMC, not the Russian military.

Definitely read what you link before you link it :)

[Gelston]

On 7 February 2018, the U.S.-led coalition, established in 2014 to counter the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), delivered massive air and artillery strikes on the Syrian pro-government forces near the town of Khasham, or Al Tabiyeh,

I wouldn’t call massive air and artillery strikes meeting on the ground....


U.S. forces were in constant contact with the official Russian liaison officer posted in Deir ez-Zor throughout the engagement and only opened fire after they had received assurances that no regular Russian troops were in action or at risk.

And on top of it, that was a PMC, not the Russian military.

Definitely read what you link before you link it :)

40 Troops on the ground.

Wagner is just as much of a PMC as the US Marine Corps is.

Fact remains, Russia is at least a generation behind the US Military and they follow that shitty eastern European military doctrine of a highly centralized command structure. Same doctrine all the Middle Easterners follow.

[Solkern]

40 Troops on the ground.

Wagner is just as much of a PMC as the US Marine Corps is.

No it’s not... it’s a private military company that hires people. It’s not the Russian military.

[Gelston]

No it’s not... it’s a private military company that hires people. It’s not the Russian military.

Yes, it hires people the same way any other militarys hires people. It exists as a "PMC" so Russia has plausible deniability. It is owned by the state though.

[Solkern]

40 Troops on the ground.

Wagner is just as much of a PMC as the US Marine Corps is.

Fact remains, Russia is at least a generation behind the US Military and they follow that shitty eastern European military doctrine of a highly centralized command structure. Same doctrine all the Middle Easterners follow.


From that link: this should clarify it enough for you that no Russian military was there:
no regular Russian troops were in action or at risk

[Solkern]

Yes, it hires people the same way any other militarys hires people. It exists as a "PMC" so Russia has plausible deniability. It is owned by the state though.


It’s not owned by the state, it’s a private company, it employs ex-military, you can read about PMC Wagner

[Gelston]

It’s not owned by the state, it’s a private company, it employs ex-military, you can read about PMC Wagner

I have, and it is. It is a "secret" unit of the Russian military. You think Donbass could have afforded a real PMC? No, Russia sent them there.

[Solkern]

I have, and it is. It is a "secret" unit of the Russian military. You think Donbass could have afforded a real PMC? No, Russia sent them there.

Others are of the opinion that ChVK Wagner is really a unit of the Russian Ministry of Defence in disguise, which is used by the Russian government in conflicts where deniability is called for. It is believed to be owned by Yevgeny Prigozhin, a businessman with close links to Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Other opinions is what your basing this information on?

If it was part of the Russian military, why did the Russian liaison officer specifically state, no Russian troops were present? Because they want this group to die? Hardly makes sense.

I have quite a few friends in the Russian military that were contacted about joining various PMCs after they leave the service. Some said they would accept due to the great pay, most refused because it’s not worth what you have to give up.
It’s definitely not Russian military

[Gelston]

Others are of the opinion that ChVK Wagner is really a unit of the Russian Ministry of Defence in disguise, which is used by the Russian government in conflicts where deniability is called for. It is believed to be owned by Yevgeny Prigozhin, a businessman with close links to Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Other opinions is what your basing this information on?

If it was part of the Russian military, why did the Russian liaison officer specifically state, no Russian troops were present? Because they want this group to die? Hardly makes sense

Look at all the conflicts they've been involved in. Places that are of great interest to Russia, but couldn't afford a PMC of Wagners' capabilities on their own. It is because they aren't. Russian sends them.

[Neveragain]

I just want this stupid shit to end.

Over the past 40 years has Iran shown any signs that they will stop funding terrorists?

Iran, like these other terrorist nations, are like cancer. They pull some fucked up stunt, get a hand slap, sign some weak ass treaty, use that time to reorganize, pull another fucked up stunt and rinse, wash, repeat.

It's not going to end until the cancer is completely cut out.

I would love for us to pull out of the region, though realistically, it's pretty certain that Iran would set the region on fire.

[Solkern]

Look at all the conflicts they've been involved in. Places that are of great interest to Russia, but couldn't afford a PMC of Wagners' capabilities on their own. It is because they aren't. Russian sends them.

For the motherland! Coincidence doesn’t mean they are Russian military.
Once again that link you sent specifically stated: no Russian military was there.

[Gelston]

This is a fun read from the Russian side though.

"The reports that are on TV about ... well, you know, about Syria and the 25 people that are wounded there from the Syrian f--- army and — well ... to make it short, we've had our asses f--- kicked. So one squadron f--- lost 200 people ... right away, another one lost 10 people ... and I don't know about the third squadron, but it got torn up pretty badly, too ... So three squadrons took a beating ... The Yankees attacked ... first they blasted the f--- out of us by artillery, and then they took four helicopters up and pushed us in a f--- merry-go-round with heavy caliber machine guns ... They were all shelling the holy f--- out of it, and our guys didn't have anything besides the assault rifles ... nothing at all, not even mentioning shoulder-fired SAMs or anything like that ... So they tore us to pieces for sure, put us through hell, and the Yankees knew for sure that the Russians were coming, that it was us, f--- Russians ... Our guys were going to commandeer an oil refinery, and the Yankees were holding it ... We got our f--- asses beat rough, my men called me ... They're there drinking now ... many have gone missing ... it's a total f--- up, it sucks, another takedown ... Everybody, you know, treats us like pieces of s--- ... They beat our asses like we were little pieces of s--- ... but our f--- government will go in reverse now, and nobody will respond or anything, and nobody will punish anyone for this ... So these are our casualties."

"Out of all vehicles, only one tank survived and one BRDM [armored reconnaissance vehicle] after the attack, all other BRDMs and tanks were destroyed in the first minutes of the fight, right away."

"Just had a call with a guy — so they basically formed a convoy, but did not get to their f--- positions by some 300 meters. One unit moved forward, the convoy remained in place, about 300 meters from the others. The others raised the American f--- flag, and their artillery started f--- ours really hard. Then their f--- choppers flew in and started f--- everybody. Ours just running around. Just got a call from a pal, so there are about 215 f--- killed. They simply rolled ours out f--- hard. Made their point. What the f--- ours were hoping for in there?! That they will f--- run away themselves? Hoped to f--- scare them away? Lots of people f--- so bad [they] can't be f--- ID'd. There was no foot soldiers [on the American side]; they simply f--- our convoy with artillery."

[Solkern]

Last line.... no American foot soldiers

[Solkern]

I also want to make it crystal clear, I’m not jumping on the Russian military bandwagon, I know 1000000% they would be fucked against the US. Like fucked in the ass with sandpaper as lube.

[Gelston]

Last line.... no American foot soldiers

Because they never made it to the Foot soldiers. They were wrecked by Arty and Air power before they got there.

[Solkern]

Because they never made it to the Foot soldiers. They were wrecked by Arty and Air power before they got there.

Exactly, so I wouldn’t quite say they met on the ground..

It’s like saying yeah I was in a knife fight, but I shot the guy with a sniper rifle before he could even see me.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Last line.... no American foot soldiers

Do we need foot soldiers to crush our enemies?

[Solkern]

Do we need foot soldiers to crush our enemies?

Nope, but that wasn’t what the conversation was about.
It was about the last time Russians and Americans met on the ground.

[Gelston]

Exactly, so I wouldn’t quite say they met on the ground..

It’s like saying yeah I was in a knife fight, but I shot the guy with a sniper rifle before he could even see me.

The guys on the ground directed the air. That is pretty much how a conventional ground engagement with US Forces goes.