2020 Democrat primary debates

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Bernie?

He'll galvanize America when they see the cost. He's got no chance of beating Trump at all. All those polls you see that say "Do you want single payer?" with like 70% in favor, have a follow up question that says something like "Which will cost you this much more in taxes" drops that shit into the 30s.

Everyone wants free stuff, so long as someone else is paying for it. As soon as you put a personal price tag on it, it dies on the vine.

Bernie can't win. Too many rational people will stop him.

[Gelston]

Bernie?

He'll galvanize America when they see the cost. He's got no chance of beating Trump at all. All those polls you see that say "Do you want single payer?" with like 70% in favor, have a follow up question that says something like "Which will cost you this much more in taxes" drops that shit into the 30s.

Everyone wants free stuff, so long as someone else is paying for it. As soon as you put a personal price tag on it, it dies on the vine.

Bernie can't win. Too many rational people will stop him.

Bernie is popular with the younger liberals. Old people fucking hate him though. Middle aged democrats don't like him. I don't think he has a chance this go around.

[Alfster]

The Iowa Democratic party clearly hates him.

[Methais]

Sanders could actually win if he's the nominee. I don't see any of the rest of them having enough of a cult following.

Sanders could actually win if independent voters were giant socialist retards like Bernie's McDonald's-career-assuming-they-work-at-all base is.

[Parkbandit]

Oh I'm not saying he's my choice at all. Just that he has a cult following and momentum. He's the only one that I see knocking off Trump.

I think Bloomberg may have a chance. I don't see Bernie having much of a chance in a general election. Most "normal" Democrats won't vote for him and will just sit home on election night.

Bernie plays well to the base of fanatic losers who really believe that the real reason they are losers is because some banker or billionaire stole their fair share.

[Parkbandit]

The Iowa Democratic party clearly hates him.

The Democrat Party as a whole clearly dislikes him. If there was no chance he would run as an Independent, they would have told him to fuck off years ago. But instead, they are so scared he will split the lunatic left vote that they allow him to join/leave/join their Party and give him money in hopes that he won't win.

[Methais]

I think Bloomberg may have a chance. I don't see Bernie having much of a chance in a general election. Most "normal" Democrats won't vote for him and will just sit home on election night.

Bernie plays well to the base of fanatic losers who really believe that the real reason they are losers is because some banker or billionaire stole their fair share.

I wonder how the black vote would go if he made it out of the primaries. I would imagine he would get ravaged over stop & frisk on top of his other retarded views and past legislative actions.

The irony of having an old white billionaire being the left's "solution" to Trump when their whole platform is centered around hating the rich would be entertaining to watch though. I can't wait until BacKKKlash starts posting.

[Some Rogue]

Or how his wife bankrupted a school. Or his three houses. Or how he's never worked a day in his life. Or any of the recordings of him saying he's a communist.

It doesn't matter though, the Burn ain't gonna get it.

Someone who bankrupted a money printing business, sorry casino, and never worked a day in his life seems to have worked out.

[Methais]

Someone who bankrupted a money printing business, sorry casino, and never worked a day in his life seems to have worked out.

I like how the part where a bunch of other casinos also shut down around the same time always gets ignored because Orange Man Bad.

https://i.imgur.com/djVpCkP.png (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_casinos_in_New_Jersey#Closed_casinos)

[Parkbandit]

Someone who bankrupted a money printing business, sorry casino, and never worked a day in his life seems to have worked out.

How do you think Trump has never worked a day in his life?

[Methais]

How do you think Trump has never worked a day in his life?

bEcAuSe He'S rIcH wHiCh MeAnS hE mUsT hAvE sToLeN iT aLl FrOm PoOr PeOpLe

[Astray]

bEcAuSe He'S rIcH wHiCh MeAnS hE mUsT hAvE sToLeN iT aLl FrOm PoOr PeOpLe

Wealth is bad, just ask Bernie!

[Some Rogue]

How do you think Trump has never worked a day in his life?

The same way Bernie didn't?

[Some Rogue]

bEcAuSe He'S rIcH wHiCh MeAnS hE mUsT hAvE sToLeN iT aLl FrOm PoOr PeOpLe

WROOOOOOOOOOONG. He got it from daddy.

[Parkbandit]

The same way Bernie didn't?

Who said Bernie didn't work a day in his life?

I think I've heard people criticize Bernie because he hates businesses so much.. but that's probably because he's never run one before.

[Methais]

WROOOOOOOOOOONG. He got it from daddy.

Trump got $3 billion or whatever he's worth from his dad? Interesting. His dad must be a trillionaire.

Also:




Someone who bankrupted a money printing business, sorry casino, and never worked a day in his life seems to have worked out.

I like how the part where a bunch of other casinos also shut down around the same time always gets ignored because Orange Man Bad.

https://i.imgur.com/djVpCkP.png (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_casinos_in_New_Jersey#Closed_casinos)

[Some Rogue]

Who said Bernie didn't work a day in his life?

I think I've heard people criticize Bernie because he hates businesses so much.. but that's probably because he's never run one before.

SHM in the post I was originally responding to?

[Parkbandit]

SHM in the post I was originally responding to?

Oh, yea.. missed it.

Not sure that's true.. Running for office and keeping a Senator's schedule sounds like work to me.

[Tgo01]

Sanders never worked a day in his life before he got into politics. Might be hyperbole but probably mostly true.

[Methais]

Sanders never worked a day in his life before he got into politics. Might be hyperbole but probably mostly true.

Didn't he get kicked out of some hippie commune for being too lazy?

When hippies kick you out of anything for being lazy, you're fucking lazy.

[Methais]

https://twitter.com/WalkerBragman/status/1225277176745992195?s=20
https://i.imgur.com/Qa0WULm.png (https://twitter.com/WalkerBragman/status/1225277176745992195?s=20)

[Methais]

Mayor Buttplug's at it again :lol:

https://scontent.fbtr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/84722674_1076378266056107_6997767477815934976_o.jp g?_nc_cat=111&_nc_ohc=gJ6_R46_HH0AX8LTRmV&_nc_ht=scontent.fbtr1-1.fna&oh=99d4bb04a2cf5e21d4fd4d808150398e&oe=5EDA12B2

[Astray]

Backkk sees nothing wrong with that.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

SHM in the post I was originally responding to?

Besides writing pedophile pornography, and a stint as a "wood worker" what has he done, ever, that wasn't as a protestor/government employee?

[Candor]

https://twitter.com/WalkerBragman/status/1225277176745992195?s=20
https://i.imgur.com/Qa0WULm.png (https://twitter.com/WalkerBragman/status/1225277176745992195?s=20)

I would point out to the "intelligentsia" that some of the other girls in the locker room might be psychologically hurt by a man wearing a dress being there, but since they believe that the rights of the individual are more important than the rights of society, I expect that fact would mean nothing to them.

[Wrathbringer]

I would point out to the "intelligentsia" that some of the other girls in the locker room might be psychologically hurt by a man wearing a dress being there, but since they believe that I'm a complete sharting tard, I expect that fact would mean nothing to them.

Yep.

[Methais]

I would point out to the "intelligentsia" that some of the other girls in the locker room might be psychologically hurt by a man wearing a dress being there, but since they believe that the rights of the individual are more important than the rights of society, I expect that fact would mean nothing to them.

I don't disagree. I'm just curious what sort of mental gymnastics the woke left will come up with to sweep this under the rug because Orange Man Bad.

[~Rocktar~]

I don't disagree. I'm just curious what sort of mental gymnastics the woke left will come up with to sweep this under the rug because Orange Man Bad.

But but but but Trumpppppp!!!!!!!!

[Ashlander]

I don't disagree. I'm just curious what sort of mental gymnastics the woke left will come up with to sweep this under the rug because Orange Man Bad.

Obviously his views have "evolved" since then and he's woke now.

[ClydeR]

They had a robot named Polly that is an expert in politics watch the debate. It said Buttigieg would be the most likely to beat Trump.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/ai-picks-buttigieg-the-candidate-to-beat-trump

[Candor]

They had a robot named Polly that is an expert in politics watch the debate. It said Buttigieg would be the most likely to beat Trump.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/ai-picks-buttigieg-the-candidate-to-beat-trump

Reality check:

Trump is going to win the 2020 election. Likely it will be with the same electoral distribution and count as the 2016 election. He might lose the popular vote by a bit more than in 2016, but of course that doesn't mean anything.

Some liberals will have a massive breakdown once the election outcome is certain. I plan to spend the day after the election watching the whining/screaming/protests/riots.

[~Rocktar~]

Require Voter ID and proof of citizenship to register and I bet you see that popular vote win disappear.

[Neveragain]

Me watching the Democrats actively avoiding the word millionaire:

https://media.tenor.com/images/e3544b8117d3ecbb0cb8751f1ce0ff71/tenor.gif

[ClydeR]

Reality check:

Trump is going to win the 2020 election. Likely it will be with the same electoral distribution and count as the 2016 election. He might lose the popular vote by a bit more than in 2016, but of course that doesn't mean anything.




I'm not letting you take all the fun out of 2020. Just yesterday, I was reading about a new political forecaster who called the 2018 midterms better than anybody else. She says the old models no longer work. Read it and see how suspenseful and exciting 2020 will be.


Bitecofer’s theory, when you boil it down, is that modern American elections are rarely shaped by voters changing their minds, but rather by shifts in who decides to vote in the first place. To her critics, she’s an extreme apostle of the old saw that “turnout explains everything,” taking a long victory lap after getting lucky one time. She sees things slightly differently: That the last few elections show that American politics really has changed, and other experts have been slow to process what it means.

More... (https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/02/06/rachel-bitecofer-profile-election-forecasting-new-theory-108944)


The classic view is that the pool of American voters is basically fixed: About 55 percent of eligible voters are likely to go to the polls, and the winner is determined by the 15 percent or so of “swing voters” who flit between the parties. So a general election campaign amounts to a long effort to pull those voters in to your side.

Bitecofer has a nickname for this view. She calls it, with disdain, the “Chuck Todd theory of American politics”: “The idea that there is this informed, engaged American population that is watching these political events and watching their elected leaders and assessing their behavior and making a judgment.”

“And it is just not true.”

The winner will, in her opinion, be the one who most angers and scares people about the other candidate and who most suppresses and discourages the other candidate's voters.


Bitecofer already sees the Trump playbook coming together for 2020: warning of a demographic takeover by nonwhites in order to boost turnout among noncollege white voters, and trying to sow chaos in the Democratic ranks so that supporters of a losing primary candidate either stay home or support a third-party candidate.

Unlike forecasters like FiveThirtyEight’s Nate Silver, who believe that candidates seen as too ideologically extreme pay a political cost, Bitecofer doesn’t see much of a downside to a candidate like Bernie Sanders. But she doesn’t see much of an upside either, since ideology isn’t as big a motivator as identity, and since Sanders did not in fact bring hordes of new voters to the polls in 2016. (Overall turnout in the 2016 primaries was down compared with 2008, when Barack Obama led a surge in the youth vote. In 2016, Sanders just did remarkably well among the young as Clinton tanked.) There is some risk to nominating Joe Biden, who could be seen as a candidate of the status quo against a disrupter like Trump, but either way, the key will be to do their version of what Trump does to them every day: make the prospect of four more years of Republican rule seem like a threat to the Republic, one that could risk everything Democratic-leaning voters hold dear.

She says a Democrat will win the White House, Democrats will gain seats in the House, and Democrats have a good chance of retaking the Senate.

[Tgo01]

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1226577362562752513?s=20

This is a video of a Democratic voter asking Biden a question.

A young woman asks Biden "How do you explain the performance in Iowa and why should the voters believe that you can win a national election?"

Biden's response: "You ever been to a caucus?"

Woman says yes.

Biden: "No you haven’t. You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier."

And Democrats have the nerve to say Trump is a bully. How does this man have any support left at all? Oh that's right, the media has sold their souls to the DNC so they cover up shit like this so it never sees the light of day.

[Back]

In response to ClydeR's post...

Seems plausible. Shit, anything if fucking plausible since Trump won in 2016.

I predict democrats take both the house and senate. At this point I don't know how the presidency will go. I'm going to predict democrat but honestly I can see it going to Trump again.

I blame the relentless right wing propaganda machine flooding the zone with shit so its harder to figure out whats true and whats stretched or outright fabrications.

[Neveragain]

I predict democrats take both the house and senate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/OCTGEMCHZAI6VENLZZBZVJOHYE.jpg&w=767

This ended any chance of that happening.

Now Democrats are trying to strong arm social media sites into taking down meme's of Nancy tearing up the speech. Both Facebook and Twitter have told them to take a hike.

Not even twitter can carry democrat water anymore.

[Back]

This ended any chance of that happening.

Rofl. Boo-hoo. She tore a piece of paper. It was a speech full of lies. It deserved to be burned. Meanwhile Trump and the republicans may as well be wiping their asses with the constitution.

[Tgo01]

Rofl. Boo-hoo. She tore a piece of paper. It was a speech full of lies. It deserved to be burned. Meanwhile Trump and the republicans may as well be wiping their asses with the constitution.

All those brave real Americans (unlike fake Americans such as yourself) being honored at the SOTU sure are full of lies.

Again your "news" feed is literally DNC talking points and Share Blue.

[Neveragain]

Rofl. Boo-hoo. She tore a piece of paper. It was a speech full of lies. It deserved to be burned. Meanwhile Trump and the republicans may as well be wiping their asses with the constitution.

I simply offer my opinion of how the public will/has perceived this.

I honestly believe this past week is the worst week I have ever seen for the democrats in my lifetime. I have to think back to Carter to even come close to the democrats being this far in the hole and Carter wasn't a bad guy, the economy just sucked.

(Iran hostage thing was going on as well) ~ Edited for honesty.

Democrats are going to lose big.

[Wrathbringer]

My butt hurts. She tore a piece of paper like a spoiled child. It was a speech full of win. It deserved to be framed. Meanwhile Trump and the republicans may as well be wiping their asses with my face.

Yes.

[ClydeR]

Biden: "No you haven’t. You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier."

As soon as I saw her, even before she asked her question, I said to myself, "Be careful, Joe. She's a pony soldier!" And I was right.

[~Rocktar~]

Rofl. Boo-hoo. She tore a piece of paper. It was a speech full of lies. It deserved to be burned. Meanwhile Trump and the republicans may as well be wiping their asses with the constitution.

First, it's government property created in the operation of a duly appointed government official and subject to records retention laws.

Second, what lies were in the speech? Be specific. The text is available online so you can quote the aforementioned lie and then provide factual evidence to support your assertion that it is a lie.

[Back]

First, it's government property created in the operation of a duly appointed government official and subject to records retention laws.

Trump bribes a democratic ally with aid they need to fight off Russia so they will investigate an American citizen who is the last remaining son of a political opponent even though he has the entire executive branch at his disposal, he and the republicans block all efforts to uncover the truth, and you're crying about a ripped piece of paper? Fuck sake.


Second, what lies were in the speech? Be specific. The text is available online so you can quote the aforementioned lie and then provide factual evidence to support your assertion that it is a lie.

Here is the very top one. From Business Insider...


"I've also made an ironclad pledge to American families: We will always protect patients with pre-existing conditions," Trump said.

But it's a false claim. His administration backs a lawsuit seeking to overturn the law protecting those same patients, and it has also taken steps to weaken the Affordable Care Act, such as allowing the sale of insurance that lacks those guardrails.

[~Rocktar~]

Trump bribes a democratic ally with aid they need to fight off Russia so they will investigate an American citizen who is the last remaining son of a political opponent even though he has the entire executive branch at his disposal, he and the republicans block all efforts to uncover the truth, and you're crying about a ripped piece of paper? Fuck sake.</quote.

So this is a lie, he was acquitted of all accusations since there were no charges of actual criminal violations cited in the charges unlike previous impeachments where specific laws and statutes were quoted in the charges.


[quote]Here is the very top one. From Business Insider...

So we have a broad base accusation without any factual support. First, what are the specifics of the lawsuit? Second, allowing coverage to be sold to those that chose to buy it without pre-existing condition coverage does not constitute invalidating all preexisting conditions, it constitutes allowing choice. For example, thanks to the ACA, I, a 50 yr old male am forced to pay for coverage that includes coverage for pap smears and pregnancy. Neither of which I will ever make use of even if I lost my mind and decided to get a sex change.

Overturning the ACA does not constitute removal of protection for preexisting conditions. It is entirely possible to have them protected without the ACA.

Next supposed lie.

[Parkbandit]

In response to ClydeR's post...

Seems plausible. Shit, anything if fucking plausible since Trump won in 2016.

I predict democrats take both the house and senate. At this point I don't know how the presidency will go. I'm going to predict democrat but honestly I can see it going to Trump again.

I blame the relentless right wing propaganda machine flooding the zone with shit so its harder to figure out whats true and whats stretched or outright fabrications.

Your political prognostications have always been so spot on.....

[Parkbandit]

Rofl. Boo-hoo. She tore a piece of paper. It was a speech full of lies. It deserved to be burned. Meanwhile Trump and the republicans may as well be wiping their asses with the constitution.

Be specific... how are the Republicans and President Trump "wiping their asses with the Constitution"?

[Some Rogue]

First, it's government property created in the operation of a duly appointed government official and subject to records retention laws.



WROOOOOOOOOOONG.

"This is a courtesy copy that is not filed or deposited with the House. Judging from the fact that I could not find evidence that these copies were archived with the House, I assume that past Speakers have kept the copies as personal property," Turley wrote (https://jonathanturley.org/2020/02/06/no-nancy-pelosi-did-not-violate-federal-law-just-decades-of-tradition/). "While years ago I wrote an academic study of such records and criticized the view of presidential papers as personal property, a court would likely view this document as the personal property of Pelosi."

OR

Heidi Kitrosser, a University of Minnesota law professor specializing in federal government secrecy and the separation of powers, told USA TODAY it was "crazy" to suggest Pelosi broke the law.
The Presidential Records Act, which requires the president to preserve records, and other laws governing federal records were "designed to prevent the president and his advisers from shielding documentary information from public view," she explained.
They do not apply to "printouts or widely circulated documents" like copies of the State of the Union, she said.
What would make the document an official presidential record is if it were the one Trump had marked up, she said. A document like that "would be a pretty classic presidential record," Kitrosser said.
City University of New York Law Professor Douglas Cox, an expert on the legal status of documents, agreed the Presidential Records Act (https://www.archives.gov/presidential-libraries/laws/1978-act.html) did not apply in the Pelosi case.

[Tgo01]

WROOOOOOOOOOONG.

"This is a courtesy copy that is not filed or deposited with the House. Judging from the fact that I could not find evidence that these copies were archived with the House, I assume that past Speakers have kept the copies as personal property," Turley wrote (https://jonathanturley.org/2020/02/06/no-nancy-pelosi-did-not-violate-federal-law-just-decades-of-tradition/). "While years ago I wrote an academic study of such records and criticized the view of presidential papers as personal property, a court would likely view this document as the personal property of Pelosi."

OR

Heidi Kitrosser, a University of Minnesota law professor specializing in federal government secrecy and the separation of powers, told USA TODAY it was "crazy" to suggest Pelosi broke the law.
The Presidential Records Act, which requires the president to preserve records, and other laws governing federal records were "designed to prevent the president and his advisers from shielding documentary information from public view," she explained.
They do not apply to "printouts or widely circulated documents" like copies of the State of the Union, she said.
What would make the document an official presidential record is if it were the one Trump had marked up, she said. A document like that "would be a pretty classic presidential record," Kitrosser said.
City University of New York Law Professor Douglas Cox, an expert on the legal status of documents, agreed the Presidential Records Act (https://www.archives.gov/presidential-libraries/laws/1978-act.html) did not apply in the Pelosi case.

I just don't fawn and get a hard on for Nancy Pelosi or any politician really.

[Some Rogue]

Good, because that would be creepy. I am just stating the fact since you all like to spout about fake news so much.

[Tgo01]

Good, because that would be creepy. I am just stating the fact since you all like to spout about fake news so much.

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

[Some Rogue]

Can't dispute it so deflect!

[Back]

So we have a broad base accusation without any factual support. First, what are the specifics of the lawsuit? Second, allowing coverage to be sold to those that chose to buy it without pre-existing condition coverage does not constitute invalidating all preexisting conditions, it constitutes allowing choice. For example, thanks to the ACA, I, a 50 yr old male am forced to pay for coverage that includes coverage for pap smears and pregnancy. Neither of which I will ever make use of even if I lost my mind and decided to get a sex change.

Overturning the ACA does not constitute removal of protection for preexisting conditions. It is entirely possible to have them protected without the ACA.

Next supposed lie.

Factual support is evident from the Trump adminsitration's efforts to repeal the ACA. The ACA is what protects everyone with pre-existing conditions. Take away the ACA, take away the protection for everyone with pre-existing conditions. So far there is nothing they are offering in place of that.

Yes, we could figure out some other way to protect people other than the ACA, but Trump and his administration has not offered anything to do it.

Therefore when he says "I've also made an ironclad pledge to American families: We will always protect patients with pre-existing conditions" its a flat out bald faced lie.

Please show us where he has done anything to protect people with pre-existing conditions.

[Tgo01]

Can't dispute it so deflect!

I'm doing just fine thanks for asking.

[Neveragain]

Please show us where he has done anything to protect people with pre-existing conditions.

Google, did the American Healthcare Act cover pre-existing conditions?

"The American Health Care Act reaffirms the commitment from House Republicans to ensure Americans with pre-existing conditions are protected. ... Insurance companies are banned from rescinding coverage based on a pre-existing condition. Period."

I would imagine it's not easy putting together a national health insurance plan that doesn't increase prices, take away doctor choice and punish poor people for choosing between health insurance and putting food on the table.

It's obvious that the Democrats were unable to pull it off by creating a law that basically bailed out insurance companies.

So, anyhow. You're lying when you say Republicans have done nothing.

[Back]

Google, did the American Healthcare Act cover pre-existing conditions?

"The American Health Care Act reaffirms the commitment from House Republicans to ensure Americans with pre-existing conditions are protected. ... Insurance companies are banned from rescinding coverage based on a pre-existing condition. Period."

I would imagine it's not easy putting together a national health insurance plan that doesn't increase prices, take away doctor choice and punish poor people for choosing between health insurance and putting food on the table.

It's obvious that the Democrats were unable to pull it off by creating a law that basically bailed out insurance companies.

So, anyhow. You're lying when you say Republicans have done nothing.

Not exactly and it has not even passed the Senate.


MacArthur Amendment
In April 2017, House Republicans tried to reconcile their divisions with the proposed MacArthur Amendment. The MacArthur Amendment, developed by Representative Tom MacArthur of the Tuesday Group (representing more moderate Republicans) and Representative Mark Meadows of the House Freedom Caucus (representing the hard-line right).[90][91][92] The language of the proposed amendment became available on April 25, 2017.[93] The amendment allows insurers to charge enrollees in their 50s and early 60s more than younger enrollees. It also allows states to waive essential health benefits and certain sections of the community rating program. As revised by the MacArthur Amendment, the ACHA weakens protections for patients with preexisting conditions; under this version of the bill, insurers would be able to charge people significantly more if they had a pre-existing condition.[94]

[Some Rogue]

I'm doing just fine thanks for asking.

https://media.giphy.com/media/iMOk3wfmE5IoE/giphy.gif


Looks like a butthurt snowflake got triggered.

[Neveragain]

Please show us where he has done anything to protect people with pre-existing conditions.


Not exactly and it has not even passed the Senate.

So it does cover pre-existing conditions and something is indeed being done?

To me it seems absurd to be talking about health insurance instead of government healthcare facilities. Of course that would leave multi-billion dollar insurance companies out of the equation and the beholden political class would leave their donors with empty pockets.

We could start funding it by using the tax dollars we are sending the Ukraine so they can kill people none of us have ever met.

[Tgo01]

https://media.giphy.com/media/iMOk3wfmE5IoE/giphy.gif


Looks like a butthurt snowflake got triggered.

You calling anyone a troll is the really funny thing though.

[Methais]

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1226577362562752513?s=20

This is a video of a Democratic voter asking Biden a question.

A young woman asks Biden "How do you explain the performance in Iowa and why should the voters believe that you can win a national election?"

Biden's response: "You ever been to a caucus?"

Woman says yes.

Biden: "No you haven’t. You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier."

And Democrats have the nerve to say Trump is a bully. How does this man have any support left at all? Oh that's right, the media has sold their souls to the DNC so they cover up shit like this so it never sees the light of day.

Sometimes I wonder if Biden is only in this because he feels like he has to be, but doesn't actually want to be president, but doesn't want to hear crying about him dropping out of the race.

But then I remember it's Biden, and it still doesn't make any more sense.

[Methais]

In response to ClydeR's post...

Seems plausible. Shit, anything if fucking plausible since Trump won in 2016.

I predict democrats take both the house and senate. At this point I don't know how the presidency will go. I'm going to predict democrat but honestly I can see it going to Trump again.

I blame the relentless right wing propaganda machine flooding the zone with shit so its harder to figure out whats true and whats stretched or outright fabrications.

If democrats don't take the Senate, will it be because of gerrymandering again?

[Methais]

Rofl. Boo-hoo. She tore a piece of paper. It was a speech full of lies. It deserved to be burned. Meanwhile Trump and the republicans may as well be wiping their asses with the constitution.

Confirmed BacKKKlash is appalled at black girls getting to go to their school of choice, black people having jobs, minorities as a whole doing better, etc.

Racist.

[Methais]

I just don't fawn and get a hard on for Nancy Pelosi or any politician really.

Tulsi gave me a boner once or twice.

[Tgo01]

Just a reminder that Pelosi ripped the SOTU speech after Trump honored several real Americans during his speech, including one of the last surviving heroes of the Tuskegee airmen, a little black girl who received a scholarship so she could get a better education, and a military wife and husband being reunited.

Once her scheme to make Trump backfired she then threatened social media companies and their users to stop posting the video of her wretched act because she's an actual fascist.

Keep this in mind when you vote Democrat like a good little lemming, Back, and realize you vote for and support actual fascists while claiming Republicans are fascists.

[TrumpTweets]

Cry some more, bitch.

[Tgo01]

Cry some more, bitch.

I do believe I touched a nerve.

[Neveragain]

I do believe I touched a nerve.

Democrats: Boo Hoo! she tore some paper.

also Democrats: Take that down now!

Complete fucking train wreck.

I was actually surprised to see Twitters response: "Are you saying this never happened?"

It's like O'Brien has taken over the DNC.

[Tgo01]

Democrats: Boo Hoo! she tore some paper.

also Democrats: Take that down now!

Complete fucking train wreck.

I was actually surprised to see Twitters response: "Are you saying this never happened?"

It's like O'Brien has taken over the DNC.

The best part is some people saying Trump's video was "threatening." Same shit they pulled when Trump called out Ilhan Omar's "some people did something" bullshit. Anytime a Republican uses a Democrat's own words or actions against them it's suddenly "threatening" to do so and putting their life in danger.

If Democrats don't want their "life put in danger" then stop saying and doing stupid shit.

[Back]

Be specific... how are the Republicans and President Trump "wiping their asses with the Constitution"?

Its a metaphor, dumbass. That means I was using a figure of speech. I did not mean they were literally wiping their asses with the paper the Constitution was written on. Good lord its known you aren't that bright but holy hell.

[Gelston]

Its a metaphor, dumbass. That means I was using a figure of speech. I did not mean they were literally wiping their asses with the paper the Constitution was written on. Good lord its known you aren't that bright but holy hell.

Metaphorically, how are they wiping their asses with the Constitution?

[Neveragain]

Its a metaphor, dumbass. That means I was using a figure of speech. I did not mean they were literally wiping their asses with the paper the Constitution was written on. Good lord its known you aren't that bright but holy hell.

Yes, we all understood this.

https://i.4pcdn.org/trv/1469285774665.gif

[Tgo01]

Its a metaphor, dumbass. That means I was using a figure of speech. I did not mean they were literally wiping their asses with the paper the Constitution was written on. Good lord its known you aren't that bright but holy hell.

This is one of your lamer deflection attempts.

[Methais]

I can't stop crying like a bitch.

This is correct.

[Methais]

Its a metaphor, dumbass. That means I was using a figure of speech. I did not mean they were literally wiping their asses with the paper the Constitution was written on. Good lord its known you aren't that bright but holy hell.


Its a metaphor, dumbass. That means I was using a figure of speech. I did not mean they were literally wiping their asses with the paper the Constitution was written on. Good lord its known you aren't that bright but holy hell.

Do you think that the words "specific" and "literal" are synonyms or something?

Just when I thought you couldn't be any more dense.

Holy fuck.

https://media.giphy.com/media/jQmVFypWInKCc/giphy.gif

[Parkbandit]

Its a metaphor, dumbass. That means I was using a figure of speech. I did not mean they were literally wiping their asses with the paper the Constitution was written on. Good lord its known you aren't that bright but holy hell.

So you meant they are doing unconstitutional things?

Give us some specific examples.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

So you meant they are doing unconstitutional things?

Give us some specific examples.

In before "I don't have to answer all your questions"

[Parkbandit]

In before "I don't have to answer all your questions"

Chances are he will just ignore the question.

But it is Drunk Tuesday.. so I'm still hopeful.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Biden running to SC made me laugh. I think Bloomberg has a good tactic, and Kobachar might be the moderate dem who pulls through. Biden will keep hanging himself with "punchy" comebacks, so his campaign is doomed.

I think Kobachar is Trump's biggest potential opponent.

[Parkbandit]

Biden running to SC made me laugh. I think Bloomberg has a good tactic, and Kobachar might be the moderate dem who pulls through. Biden will keep hanging himself with "punchy" comebacks, so his campaign is doomed.

I think Kobachar is Trump's biggest potential opponent.

Gonna be Bloomberg.

[Astray]

Cry some more, bitch.

This is just Back. Which is also Sellstuff1. You can tell by all the really weak attempts to come off as threatening.

[Tgo01]

Andrew Yang dropped out.

He didn't have much support but his supporters were die hard Yang supporters. A poll said something like 30% of his supporters would NOT vote for the eventual Democrat nominee if it wasn't Yang and another 20% said it depended on who the eventual nominee was.

[Astray]

Pour one out for Yang.

[Parkbandit]

Andrew Yang dropped out.

He didn't have much support but his supporters were die hard Yang supporters. A poll said something like 30% of his supporters would NOT vote for the eventual Democrat nominee if it wasn't Yang and another 20% said it depended on who the eventual nominee was.

Yang's biggest problem was his base had to be especially stupid to buy into his campaign.

Case in point:


Thats why I really love Yang. I'm a Yang ganger all the way. Too bad he's running for the 2120 election. Let the robots do the work so we can smoke free weed and populate the stars.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Anyone who's main campaign talking point is universal income of $1000 to everyone deserves to be laughed out of the country. Only deadbeats would like that.

[Parkbandit]

Anyone who's main campaign talking point is universal income of $1000 to everyone deserves to be laughed out of the country. Only deadbeats would like that.


Thats why I really love Yang. I'm a Yang ganger all the way. Too bad he's running for the 2120 election. Let the robots do the work so we can smoke free weed and populate the stars.

Never discount the deadbeat voting block. If you promise them enough free stuff to motivate them to get off the couch to vote, you have a good base to work with. Well not work per say, but you know what I mean.

[Neveragain]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQlPqi_XsAAN-t3?format=jpg&name=900x900

https://media.giphy.com/media/jOpLbiGmHR9S0/giphy.gif

[Methais]

Never discount the deadbeat voting block. If you promise them enough free stuff to motivate them to get off the couch to vote, you have a good base to work with. Well not work per say, but you know what I mean.

Back on 2/10: "I'm a Yang banger!"

Yang on 2/11: FUCK THIS I'M OUT

Good job BacKKKlash.

:lol:

[Neveragain]

Back on 2/10: "I'm a Yang banger!"

Yang on 2/11: FUCK THIS I'M OUT

Good job BacKKKlash.

:lol:

:lol:

[Tgo01]

Biden giving a speech to supporters after his loss in New Hampshire: "It is important that Iowa and Nevada have spoken, but look, we need to hear from Nevada and South Carolina and super Tuesday states and beyond."

Honestly at this point his wife should be charged with elderly abuse for allowing this to continue, Biden is clearly unwell.

[Parkbandit]

Back on 2/10: "I'm a Yang banger!"

Yang on 2/11: FUCK THIS I'M OUT

Good job BacKKKlash.

:lol:


:lol:

:lol:

[Alfster]

Biden giving a speech to supporters after his loss in New Hampshire: "It is important that Iowa and Nevada have spoken, but look, we need to hear from Nevada and South Carolina and super Tuesday states and beyond."

Honestly at this point his wife should be charged with elderly abuse for allowing this to continue, Biden is clearly unwell.

You're kidding right? If that's what you consider to be terrible, how do you describe Trump's misspeaking?

Not to mention, only trumpers seem to care what bidens up to. He's done.

[Methais]

You're kidding right? If that's what you consider to be terrible, how do you describe Trump's misspeaking?

Not to mention, only trumpers seem to care what bidens up to. He's done.

If it was just a one time thing, sure. But when was the last time Biden said anything that made any actual sense?

At least it's good entertainment.

[Tgo01]

You're kidding right? If that's what you consider to be terrible, how do you describe Trump's misspeaking?

Yes, this is the one and only forehead-smacking-worthy thing Biden has done this election cycle. You just see right through me and my shenanigans.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Yes, this is the one and only forehead-smacking-worthy thing Biden has done this election cycle. You just see right through me and my shenanigans.

I think Alfster's point was Trump is equally terrible at speaking. I agree with that assessment.

Edit to add this - I think Nancy is progressively getting worse, and Schumer is horrific. There are a TON of really bad public speakers in congress and running for Pres.

[Methais]

I think Alfster's point was Trump is equally terrible at speaking. I agree with that assessment.

Edit to add this - I think Nancy is progressively getting worse, and Schumer is horrific. There are a TON of really back public speakers in congress and running for Pres.

In Nancy's defense, I think it's because her dentures keep trying to fall out.

Either that or she stays wasted.

Probably both.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

In Nancy's defense, I think it's because her dentures keep trying to fall out.

Either that or she stays wasted.

Probably both.

I personally think it's early dementia.

[Neveragain]

You're kidding right? If that's what you consider to be terrible, how do you describe Trump's misspeaking?

Not to mention, only trumpers seem to care what bidens up to. He's done.

Now if Biden only knew he was done, it's sad to watch.

Biden's biggest problem is that he doesn't know how to focus his inner asshole. No question that Trump is an asshole, it's just that he knows how to use his inner asshole in the correct fashion.

Voters absolutely salivated when Trump used his inner asshole against career politicians and still do. Biden uses his inner asshole against possible voters "Look fat" "Vote for somebody else" "Dog faced pony soldier" all directed at potential voters.

It's so bad for Biden now that he has gone full southern strategy, like he thinks he has the black vote all wrapped up.

People are near the point that they're placing odds on when Biden assaults a voter.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/LongFixedFlee-small.gif

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Biden uses his inner asshole against possible voters "Look fat" "Vote for somebody else" "Dog faced pony soldier" all directed at potential voters.https://thumbs.gfycat.com/LongFixedFlee-small.gif

LETS DO SOME PUSHUPS!

[Gelston]

Now if Biden only knew he was done, it's sad to watch.

Biden's biggest problem is that he doesn't know how to focus his inner asshole. No question that Trump is an asshole, it's just that he knows how to use his inner asshole in the correct fashion.

Voters absolutely salivated when Trump used his inner asshole against career politicians and still do. Biden uses his inner asshole against possible voters "Look fat" "Vote for somebody else" "Dog faced pony soldier" all directed at potential voters.

It's so bad for Biden now that he has gone full southern strategy, like he thinks he has the black vote all wrapped up.

People are near the point that they're placing odds on when Biden assaults a voter.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/LongFixedFlee-small.gif

No one is really done until Super Tuesday.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

No one is really done until Super Tuesday.

Yeah I agree... long time for people to stumble and rise.

Actually, I was thinking of when they pick the nom in June. I think it'll be a contested primary and go all the way until then.

[Methais]

No one is really done until Super Tuesday.

Except Yang, because he found out BacKKKlash was a Yang banger the day before.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Who is Deval Patrick?

he dropped out, whoever he is.

[Neveragain]

No one is really done until Super Tuesday.

I totally agree, but Biden is done.

I'm being really lazy but I don't think anyone has finished 4th and 5th between IA and NH and went on to be the nominee.

He may do OK in the southern states but I doubt it. I don't think anyone's going to be throwing more money at him.

[Parkbandit]

No one is really done until Super Tuesday.

I believe Tulsi is done.

I also believe unless Warren finishes 1 or 2 in SC and NV, she's done.

Biden still has his money backers... but he has always, always been a piss poor candidate for President. He will drop out after Super Tuesday, but he should be done now as long as Klobashar / Buttigieg don't fuck up.

Hopefully Bernie wins.. but I don't see him beating Bloomberg.

Either way, 2020 Trump wins 2nd term.

[Parkbandit]

I totally agree, but Biden is done.

I'm being really lazy but I don't think anyone has finished 4th and 5th between IA and NH and went on to be the nominee.

He may do OK in the southern states but I doubt it. I don't think anyone's going to be throwing more money at him.

Corporate "liberals" who do not believe in socialism will continue to throw money at him. Or at the very least, switch over to Bloomberg.

Imagine, Bloomberg.. the Republican guy who started Stop & Frisk in NYC will be the Democratic nominee.

[Alfster]

Yeah the corporate trend is absolutely flipping to Bloomberg. I think the only candidate that can beat Trump is Bernie, so I'm a bit surprised y'all are pushing for it

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Yeah the corporate trend is absolutely flipping to Bloomberg. I think the only candidate that can beat Trump is Bernie, so I'm a bit surprised y'all are pushing for it

Perhaps just me, but I believe were Bernie to get the nom, rational minds would simply not vote for him. Sure, he'll get the deadbeat vote, the socialist/communist vote... but anyone with any mathematics ability at all will not vote for him, IMO.

[Methais]

Perhaps just me, but I believe were Bernie to get the nom, rational minds would simply not vote for him. Sure, he'll get the deadbeat vote, the socialist/communist vote... but anyone with any mathematics ability at all will not vote for him, IMO.

This is correct.

Most of Bernie's base consists of the loudest complainers who also happen to be some of the most unproductive losers and are all around failures at life. Now that Yang's out, BacKKKlash will probably get behind Bernie, for example. Pk became a Bernie bro after he 180'd from Ron Paul, most of the deadbeats I know are all about Bernie, etc. Anectodal, yeah, but I'd imagine that's the case in most places when it comes to Bernie.

The rest of his supporters, the ones who aren't actual deadbeats, are just really really gullible and don't know how to math.

Bernie getting the nomination will do some damage to the democrat party as a whole. Even more than the damage they've spent the past 3 years doing to themselves over extreme butthurt.

[Alfster]

Perhaps just me, but I believe were Bernie to get the nom, rational minds would simply not vote for him. Sure, he'll get the deadbeat vote, the socialist/communist vote... but anyone with any mathematics ability at all will not vote for him, IMO.

What he's got is the young vote. If he can get them to come out and vote on election day, he's got a real shot.

[Methais]

What he's got is the young vote. If he can get them to come out and vote on election day, he's got a real shot.

Not all young people are complete mongoloids. There are a lot, but there are a lot who also are normal people who can math and think.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

What he's got is the young vote. If he can get them to come out and vote on election day, he's got a real shot.

I'm not sure I agree with that - though he certainly caters to a younger crowd. What voters does Pete have then?

[Alfster]

Pete's got the gays. He's also getting some from Biden, so he's got the boomers too. Seems to be more of the independent crowd

As Iowa showed, as soon as the boomers realize he's gay, they want to change their vote.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Pete's got the gays. He's also getting some from Biden, so he's got the boomers too. Seems to be more of the independent crowd

As Iowa showed, as soon as the boomers realize he's gay, they want to change their vote.

LOL, one person doesn't mean all the boomers are homophobes. I think he has a younger crowd as well, myself.

[Methais]

Pete's got the gays. He's also getting some from Biden, so he's got the boomers too. Seems to be more of the independent crowd

As Iowa showed, as soon as the boomers realize he's gay, they want to change their vote.

I doubt that most gay people are going to go all in on Buttgieg just because he also smokes pole. Just the ones who are obsessed with identity politics, i.e. the ones who are retards like BacKKKlash.

EDIT:


gay people are going to go all in on Butt

https://media.tenor.com/images/ab6f16ebc6d7f8940fe68afdcce0e75b/tenor.gif

[Methais]

LOL, one person doesn't mean all the boomers are homophobes. I think he has a younger crowd as well, myself.

I saw a clip where some random democrat didn't like Pete because he was gay too.

Clearly this means both sides hate him.

[Parkbandit]

Yeah the corporate trend is absolutely flipping to Bloomberg. I think the only candidate that can beat Trump is Bernie, so I'm a bit surprised y'all are pushing for it

He can't.

Normal people with an IQ above 34 realize that socialism is a terrible, terrible system.

[Gelston]

Dude, you guys are basing all of this off of people in Iowa and New Hampshire. California and Texas Voters are going to be a lot different. And then you got the super delegates that are extremely establishment, and they aren't going to go for Bernie unless he overwhelmingly defeats whoever is in 2nd place. Like I said, Bernie is going to be smashed on Super Tuesday. And honestly, if it were only a two person primary. Bernie vs any of the other candidates, Bernie would already be getting destroyed.

[Parkbandit]

Pete's got the gays. He's also getting some from Biden, so he's got the boomers too. Seems to be more of the independent crowd

Buttigieg has done a good job of making people believe he is a moderate. He's not, but he's not out there going crazy like Warren and Sanders are.


As Iowa showed, as soon as the boomers realize he's gay, they want to change their vote.

Yes.. because 1 example on camera = entire population block. :jerkit:

It's not a secret that he's gay. Like at all. The Democrats have been touting him as the first "Openly gay veteran mayor ever!" from day 1.

[Neveragain]

As Iowa showed, as soon as the boomers realize he's gay, they want to change their vote.

1 homophobic Democrat doesn't represent an entire group, especially when all those boomers in Iowa were the first in the nation to allow gay marriage.

[Candor]

Yeah the corporate trend is absolutely flipping to Bloomberg. I think the only candidate that can beat Trump is Bernie, so I'm a bit surprised y'all are pushing for it

Personally I am not worried about any of the Democratic candidates winning the 2020 election - there just isn't a viable candidate in the bunch.

[Methais]

Personally I am not worried about any of the Democratic candidates winning the 2020 election - there just isn't a viable candidate in the bunch.

This is correct. The butthurt vote will only get them so far.

[Parkbandit]

Personally I am not worried about any of the Democratic candidates winning the 2020 election - there just isn't a viable candidate in the bunch.

Everyone was saying the same thing about Trump around this time in 2016...

[Wrathbringer]

1 homophobic Democrat doesn't represent an entire group, especially when all those boomers in Iowa were the first in the nation to allow gay marriage.

It's okay to be gay; just don't be a fag about it. I have also heard of a golden rule dating back to Caesar in ancient Greece that says it's not gay if it's in a three way. Can anyone confirm?

[Gelston]

It's okay to be gay; just don't be a fag about it. I have also heard of a golden rule dating back to Caesar in ancient Greece that says it's not gay if it's in a three way. Can anyone confirm?

"Gay" didn't exist in Ancient Rome. It was cool as long as you weren't the one taking it in the ass or blowing another dude.

[Wrathbringer]

It's okay to be gay; just don't be a fag about it. I have also heard of a golden rule dating back to Caesar in ancient Greece that says it's not gay if it's in a three way. Can anyone confirm?


"Gay" didn't exist in Ancient Rome. It was cool as long as you weren't the one taking it in the ass or blowing another dude.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi7gwX7rjOw

[Tgo01]

Holy shit! Bernie is going fully insane with his tax plan. (https://cnsnews.com/article/national/cnsnewscom-staff/bernie-sanders-proposes-435-trillion-tax-increase-wealth)

Here are the highlights for those who don't want to read it all:

Anyone who has more than 16 million dollars in assets (yes ASSETS, savings, stocks, cars, houses, etc) will be taxed 1% EVERY YEAR on all money above 16 million.
2% on 25-125 million
3% on 125-250 million
4% on 250-500 million
5% on 500 million-1.25 billion
6% on 1.25-2.5 billion
7% on 2.5-5 billion
8% on anything over 5 billion

As Bernie himself states this will HALVE their assets in just 15 years. 15 fucking years!

Oh but it gets better! To ensure those dastardly millionaires and billionaires don't dare think about leaving the shithole he wants to turn this country into, he wants to create a registry, YES CREATE A FUCKING REGISTRY, of all rich Americans and their assets so the IRS can be sure to audit them, and steal their money, on a regular basis. Oh yeah he also wants to tax SIXTY PERCENT of their assets for an "exit tax" if they ever dare want to leave the country.

Now I know what the fucktards like Back are thinking "LOL! Good! I'm not rich so why do I care! LOL LOL LOL!" Well, dumbass, because once Sanders burns through this money in a few months trying desperately, and failing, to keep up with all the money required for his promised giveaways, I can assure you the amount of assets required before this "wealth tax" kicks in is going to keep going down until it reaches around 50k. Of course I'm sure Bernie will somehow make it so he is immune to it, considering his plan doesn't start at 1 million because we all know he's a millionaire, it strangely enough starts at 13 million, just barely out of his reach.

When did Bernie and his lackeys go from bitching about the 1% to bitching about the 0.1%? Oh right, about the time Sanders became a member of the 1%.

[Parkbandit]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8007521/Mike-Bloomberg-wants-Hillary-Clinton-running-mate-say-sources.html

https://media1.giphy.com/media/lQ1nXVifuLqyVAH2Gu/giphy.gif

[Tgo01]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8007521/Mike-Bloomberg-wants-Hillary-Clinton-running-mate-say-sources.html

https://media1.giphy.com/media/lQ1nXVifuLqyVAH2Gu/giphy.gif

It's like Democrats want no black people to vote for them this time around. Between Hillary "Bring them to heel" Clinton and Mini Mike "throw them against the wall" Bloomberg I see a huge landslide in the House, Senate, and for Trump if these two are on the Democratic ticket.

[Methais]

https://media.giphy.com/media/10hUXMPyRmp7kk/giphy.gif

[Candor]

"LOL! Good! I'm not rich so why do I care! LOL LOL LOL!" Well, dumbass, because once Sanders burns through this money in a few months trying desperately, and failing, to keep up with all the money required for his promised giveaways, I can assure you the amount of assets required before this "wealth tax" kicks in is going to keep going down until it reaches around 50k.

Thanks for posting the link.

I agree the wealth tax threshold will go down after it is initially implemented, but not all the way to 50K. Not because Bernie wouldn't want to do it (because I believe he would), but because bad things are going to happen to the economy beforehand. At some point reality will make itself obvious even to Bernie and he will have to modify the wealth tax implementation. I just hope that the damage done to the economy will be not be too severe.

[Parkbandit]

Thanks for posting the link.

I agree the wealth tax threshold will go down after it is initially implemented, but not all the way to 50K. Not because Bernie wouldn't want to do it (because he would), but because bad things are going to happen to the economy beforehand. At some point reality will make itself obvious even to Bernie and he will have to modify the wealth tax implementation. I just hope that the damage done to the economy will be not be too severe.

You believe Bernie wants to bring socialism to the US because he wants to help people and help the economy?

lulz

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Bernie isn’t a socialist. He’s a communist, worse still, he’s the despot rich communist who oppresses the people. There is no other explanation for his 3 homes and being a millionaire.

[Ashlander]

Bernie isn’t a socialist. He’s a communist, worse still, he’s the despot rich communist who oppresses the people. There is no other explanation for his 3 homes and being a millionaire.

I really don't get how people can't see how much of a hypocrite the guy is. Well besides the rampantly retarded like Back.

[Candor]

You believe Bernie wants to bring socialism to the US because he wants to help people and help the economy?

It is my belief that Bernie believes that most people are idiots, and us idiots need to be taken care of and ruled over by a small intelligent minority, who of course will be permitted to live better than the rest of us.

A rather common theme in socialism.

[Parkbandit]

It is my belief that Bernie believes that most people are idiots, and us idiots need to be taken care of

I don't disagree.

I just don't believe it's my job to pay for the idiots.

[Tgo01]

A white Bernie supporter called a black man racist because of his shirt and then physically attacked him.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=Z_5iq1Yd_Fo&feature=emb_logo

How come Bernie is never forced to condemn the violent actions of his supporters? Especially the racist ones? Oh, right, he's a Democrat. He and his supporters get a pass because the Democratic party has become nothing more than a bunch of terrorist thugs.

[Gelston]

A white Bernie supporter called a black man racist because of his shirt and then physically attacked him.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=Z_5iq1Yd_Fo&feature=emb_logo

How come Bernie is never forced to condemn the violent actions of his supporters? Especially the racist ones? Oh, right, he's a Democrat. He and his supporters get a pass because the Democratic party has become nothing more than a bunch of terrorist thugs.

He has before, although very weakly.

[Tgo01]

He has before, although very weakly.

Yeah I think the extent of his condemnation was basically "Don't be mean to others."

[Methais]

He has before, although very weakly.

Was it weaker than Obama telling Russia to "cut it out?"

[Gelston]

Was it weaker than Obama telling Russia to "cut it out?"

Not that much different.

[Alfster]

Yeah I think the extent of his condemnation was basically "Don't be mean to others."

So your previous post you cried that he didn't condemn them. Now you're saying he did, but didn't do it up to your standards. Keep spreading fake news my man.


"Harassment of all forms is unacceptable to me, and we urge supporters of all campaigns not to engage in bullying or ugly personal attacks," Sanders said in a statement. "Our campaign is building a multi-generational, multi-racial movement of love, compassion, and justice. We can certainly disagree on issues, but we must do it in a respectful manner."
"Anybody making personal attacks against anybody else in my name is not part of our movement," Sanders said. "We don't want them. And I'm not so sure, to be honest with you, that they are necessarily part of our movement."

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Not that much different.

Or when Trump told Putin something like "Stop it?"

[Tgo01]

So your previous post you cried that he didn't condemn them. Now you're saying he did, but didn't do it up to your standards. Keep spreading fake news my man.

Honestly I wish you would get your TDS under control. I acknowledged that he has "condemned" violence by his supporters IN THE PAST.


"Harassment of all forms is unacceptable to me, and we urge supporters of all campaigns not to engage in bullying or ugly personal attacks," Sanders said in a statement. "Our campaign is building a multi-generational, multi-racial movement of love, compassion, and justice. We can certainly disagree on issues, but we must do it in a respectful manner."
"Anybody making personal attacks against anybody else in my name is not part of our movement," Sanders said. "We don't want them. And I'm not so sure, to be honest with you, that they are necessarily part of our movement."

You're so fake.

1) This is a chicken shit blanket statement.
2) He then claims those attacking people aren't really his supporters, just like the cowardly shit stain that he is.
3) Lastly, and most importantly, this was in reference to his supporters being mean to one particular company on social media.

Ohhhh! Such a brave stance to condemn mean words! Take your TDS and get outta here already.

[Methais]

Or when Trump told Putin something like "Stop it?"

Or when Arnold told those kids to "Stop whining!"?

[Methais]

So your previous post you cried that he didn't condemn them. Now you're saying he did, but didn't do it up to your standards. Keep spreading fake news my man.


"Harassment of all forms is unacceptable to me, and we urge supporters of all campaigns not to engage in bullying or ugly personal attacks," Sanders said in a statement. "Our campaign is building a multi-generational, multi-racial movement of love, compassion, and justice. We can certainly disagree on issues, but we must do it in a respectful manner."
"Anybody making personal attacks against anybody else in my name is not part of our movement," Sanders said. "We don't want them. And I'm not so sure, to be honest with you, that they are necessarily part of our movement."

You know how when there's some sort of right wing violence, BacKKKlash will go on this huge rant about it and go on and on about how they're Nazis or whatever stupid shit CNN shoved up his ass that week, but when there's left wing violence, videos of Antifa doing violent shit, etc., he's like "yeah, violence is bad"?

It's kind of like that.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

1) This is a chicken shit blanket statement.
2) He then claims those attacking people aren't really his supporters, just like the cowardly shit stain that he is.
3) Lastly, and most importantly, this was in reference to his supporters being mean to one particular company on social media.


What should he have done, besides disavow them and say we are peaceful? Like what would make it OK in your mind?

[Tgo01]

What should he have done, besides disavow them and say we are peaceful? Like what would make it OK in your mind?

I don't know, how about personally condemning this white man for accusing a black man of being racist and for attacking him at his campaign event?

How about condemning the mob that attacked a truck carrying 4 conservatives who wanted to speak at a college just a couple of days ago?

How about calling out people by name when they attack other people in his name?

How about he fires that person who works for his campaign that James O'Keefe exposed as being a violent, militant, dangerous asshole who wants to round up Republicans and put them in gulags?

How about the media demands even the slightest bit of condemnation from Democratic politicians like they do anytime a Republican supporter sneezes in the direction of someone?

The media and politicians demand more from Trump and Republican politicians anytime one of their supporters even sneezes in the direction of a Democrat, yet the left is getting increasingly violent by the day and no one gives a shit, not the media, not Democratic politicians, and certainly not Democratic voters. Don't sit there and get pissy with me for asking him to do more when he's doing next to nothing as is.

[Methais]

What should he have done, besides disavow them and say we are peaceful? Like what would make it OK in your mind?

He should bring a full size boxing ring to every event and have them settle it there. They can choose between normal gloves or oversized gloves.

[Tgo01]

What should he have done, besides disavow them and say we are peaceful? Like what would make it OK in your mind?

How about ANY cowardly piece of shit Democrat condemn this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc49vkZn8a4

But they can't because this is literally their base now and they need these psychopaths to show up to the polls to vote for them.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Don't sit there and get pissy with me for asking him to do more when he's doing next to nothing as is.

If asking you what you think he should have done is "getting pissy", you might want to take a break from the computer.

I'm good with him saying those violent people don't represent me. Just as I'd be when a Trump supporter does something retarded.

The "mob" who "attacked" a truck you reference I'm assuming is the Ohio state gun girl, and their truck got splashed with water and no one was injured on either side. She also arrived unannounced so didn't have campus security to help allow her to exercise her 1st amendment right.

I don't scan the news for every offensive thing, so don't know what the James O'Keefe thing is. I'd put it up there with similar thoughts/sayings from similarly triggered conservatives. Idiots talking.

You keep shouting TDS at the sky, and you've got a serious case of it yourself. You don't recognize this for some reason. I'm politically aligned with most of what you say, but it doesn't give me high blood pressure or cause me to rant like you do. I'm not above it all, I'm just saying it's very clear you need to take some deep breaths and relax.

[Tgo01]

I'm good with him saying those violent people don't represent me.

No no no. The coward didn't say "those people don't represent me", he heavily implied they weren't even supporters of his to begin with.

"And I'm not so sure, to be honest with you, that they are necessarily part of our movement."

Big fucking difference.


The "mob" who "attacked" a truck you reference I'm assuming is the Ohio state gun girl, and their truck got splashed with water and no one was injured on either side.

Jesus fucking Christ, dude. Really? I guess a crazed mob surrounding a truck and throwing shit at them is perfectly acceptable as long as no one was injured.

The fuck is wrong with you lately?


You keep shouting TDS at the sky, and you've got a serious case of it yourself. You don't recognize this for some reason. I'm politically aligned with most of what you say, but it doesn't give me high blood pressure or cause me to rant like you do. I'm not above it all, I'm just saying it's very clear you need to take some deep breaths and relax.

Good for you, you don't "rant" like I do. You shore are better than a bumpkin like mes! Who you trying to impress lately anyways?

[Tgo01]

The irony of the man who calls Back a "short dicked pedophile" whenever he posts is now lecturing me on civility and remaining calm is beyond hilarious.

[Some Rogue]

He should have just said there are good people on both sides.

[Methais]

He should have brought dachshunds on stage and just said, "Everybody look, there are wiener dogs up here!"

Fixed.

[Tgo01]

He should have just said there are good people on both sides.

More fake news. Trump specifically condemned the Neo Nazis and white nationalists at that event, he also condemned the violent leftist thugs who showed up to cause trouble.

He was referring to the peaceful protesters on the left who showed up who wanted a confederate statue torn down and the peaceful protesters who didn't want the statue torn down.

It's kind of sad and pathetic how much you have been lied to by the media and rather than have a realization that they don't care about informing you about current events but rather want to lie and manipulate you into believing their agenda, you instead willingly go back for more shit to be shoved down your throat.

Remain a sheep forever.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

No no no. The coward didn't say "those people don't represent me", he heavily implied they weren't even supporters of his to begin with.

"And I'm not so sure, to be honest with you, that they are necessarily part of our movement."

Big fucking difference.



Jesus fucking Christ, dude. Really? I guess a crazed mob surrounding a truck and throwing shit at them is perfectly acceptable as long as no one was injured.

The fuck is wrong with you lately?



Good for you, you don't "rant" like I do. You shore are better than a bumpkin like mes! Who you trying to impress lately anyways?

Because I disagree with you, you take it as an insult? I'm not trying to impress anyone, especially not on this board. I think you are wrong, and I stated as such. You took it personal. No offense was or is intended.

I'm not being condescending like Backrash does, and I'm not sealioning.

If I boil down your answer, you want Bernie (or any politician) to specifically call out everyone who does stupid shit, that may possibly be a part of the campaign or a supporter?

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

The irony of the man who calls Back a "short dicked pedophile" whenever he posts is now lecturing me on civility and remaining calm is beyond hilarious.

Well Backrash is a short dicked pedophile. But go ahead, overreact some more and take it personally.

[Tgo01]

2 posts in a row. Why you so angry and taking this so personally?

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

2 posts in a row. Why you so angry and taking this so personally?

No I'm at work and was responding to your rants individually.

[Risen]

Never would have guessed there would come a time when I could recommend - https://rpgtherapy.com/

[Methais]

Never would have guessed there would come a time when I could recommend - https://rpgtherapy.com/

LARP therapy?

[Some Rogue]

I ENGAGE FROM 30 HORTS.


LIGHTNING BOLT! LIGHTNING BOLT!

[Methais]

I ENGAGE FROM 30 HORTS.


LIGHTNING BOLT! LIGHTNING BOLT!

https://i.imgur.com/01pVKIT.gif

[~Rocktar~]

I ENGAGE FROM 30 HORTS.


LIGHTNING BOLT! LIGHTNING BOLT!

Lightning bolt from 37.5 inches. How daring.

Someone got a video of you though I think there is more distance between you and your target there.


https://youtu.be/lpmvFK02jY8

[Some Rogue]

https://media.giphy.com/media/XsUtdIeJ0MWMo/giphy.gif

[Parkbandit]

Bloomberg is in a handicap match tonight...

What a stage full of stupidity.

Buttigieg is the only one looking almost normal. Almost.

[Tgo01]

Bloomberg is in a handicap match tonight...

What a stage full of stupidity.

Buttigieg is the only one looking almost normal. Almost.

I didn't watch the debates but I've seen some highlights and it seems like the other candidates and the audience were just there to dunk on Bloomberg. I wonder why Bloomberg even bothered to go to the debates, he must have known everyone was going to go after him. Seems he was doing better just bribing everyone without having to face any criticism.

[Gelston]

I didn't watch the debates but I've seen some highlights and it seems like the other candidates and the audience were just there to dunk on Bloomberg. I wonder why Bloomberg even bothered to go to the debates, he must have known everyone was going to go after him. Seems he was doing better just bribing everyone without having to face any criticism.

He called Bernie and Warren's policy communism, so that was pretty great.

[Parkbandit]

I didn't watch the debates but I've seen some highlights and it seems like the other candidates and the audience were just there to dunk on Bloomberg. I wonder why Bloomberg even bothered to go to the debates, he must have known everyone was going to go after him. Seems he was doing better just bribing everyone without having to face any criticism.

Yea, I was thinking the same. He isn't even on the ballot in NV.. so he could have waited until after SC to "debate" these turds.

[Parkbandit]

I thought the fights last night were pretty fun to watch.. but the constant raising of the hands was irritating to watch.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

How much "free" stuff did they promise America?

[ClydeR]

but the constant raising of the hands was irritating to watch.


Definitely. Whose hand bothered you the most?

They should turn off all the mics except when it is that person's time to speak.

[ClydeR]

A lot of people are saying that Bloomberg intentionally turned in a bad performance to set low expectations for his debates with Trump. If so, did it work?



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERMuey5VAAA3pK_?format=png&name=small

[Tgo01]

He called Bernie and Warren's policy communism, so that was pretty great.

He seems the most sane of the Democrats at least. He's still a loon, but at least he isn't afraid to call a communist a communist, unlike the rest of the communist sympathizers.

[Gelston]

He seems the most sane of the Democrats at least. He's still a loon, but at least he isn't afraid to call a communist a communist, unlike the rest of the communist sympathizers.

Because he isn't a democrat.

[~Rocktar~]

Because he isn't a democrat.

He is kind of an old school Democrat from before they went off the rails deep into Socialist/Communist territory. Make no mistake, he is a gun grabbing, globalist, Leftist, oligarch to the core and deeply scummy. I believe that he is only running because it allows him to circumvent campaign finance laws but you never know.

[Gelston]

He is kind of an old school Democrat from before they went off the rails deep into Socialist/Communist territory. Make no mistake, he is a gun grabbing, globalist, Leftist, oligarch to the core and deeply scummy. I believe that he is only running because it allows him to circumvent campaign finance laws but you never know.

No, he is a Republican. He "switched" to the Democrat party less than 2 years ago. He is no more a Democrat than Bernie is. Probably more of a Republican than Trump. If he won the nom it would be a funny election.

[Alfster]

If either him or Bernie gets the nomination it'll be strange. Neithers a Democrat running against a non republican.

[Gelston]

If either him or Bernie gets the nomination it'll be strange. Neithers a Democrat running against a non republican.

I'm still not expecting a Bernie win. Brokered Convention he is out of there.

[Parkbandit]

No, he is a Republican. He "switched" to the Democrat party less than 2 years ago. He is no more a Democrat than Bernie is. Probably more of a Republican than Trump. If he won the nom it would be a funny election.

He doesn't hold the same values as most Republicans. He's for:

* Raising the minimum wage to $15/hr
* Ending oil / gas leases on federal lands and offshore
* Imposing a Cap & Trade system for carbon emissions.
* Gun restrictions and assault rifle ban
* Re initiate Obamacare and "fix" it.
* Remove tax cuts and increase taxes on corporations
* Increase capital gains rates
* Create special taxes on the wealthy
* Create taxes on wall street trading
* Guaranteed paid family leave
* Cancelling some student debt


He's a capitalist, which makes him not a real "Democrat" by today's Democrat Party standards.. but he holds most of the same values as the other Democratic candidates.

[Tgo01]

Bloomberg is a huge globalist who wants to sign us back onto the Paris Accord the minute he's sworn in.

The only thing he splits from the modern Democratic party with is he is fully against socialism and communism, at least for now, and he isn't afraid to state hard facts such as which segment of our society is committing a lot of crimes, although he has now apologized for that so fuck that too.

[Parkbandit]

I'm still not expecting a Bernie win. Brokered Convention he is out of there.

Doesn't matter who they nominate.. at this point, they are going to lose to Trump.

Anything can happen, but this is probably the weakest field of candidates in history. The only well spoken person on that stage last night was Buttigeig and he's just regurgitating talking points like Marco Rubio did for the Republicans in 2016. There's not much substance or experience to him.

[Tgo01]

Finally got around to watching the entire debate and Bernie Shithead greatly implied his abusive supporters are really Russian trolls. What a joke of a candidate and of a political party.

[Methais]

Finally got around to watching the entire debate and Bernie Shithead greatly implied his abusive supporters are really Russian trolls. What a joke of a candidate and of a political party.

He has followers who are just as retarded as BacKKKlash, so I have no doubt that they believe this after Bernie said it.

[Tgo01]

Another favorite moment of mine was when Warren heavily implied Bloomberg was a sexist and a racist who abused his authority as mayor to go after innocent black and Latino men, and also Bloomberg has too much money and abused our tax laws and business laws to get ahead, then immediately afterwards saying she would support him if he’s the nominee.

Is there one Democrat with a single ounce of integrity?

[Parkbandit]

Another favorite moment of mine was when Warren heavily implied Bloomberg was a sexist and a racist who abused his authority as mayor to go after innocent black and Latino men, and also Bloomberg has too much money and abused our tax laws and business laws to get ahead, then immediately afterwards saying she would support him if he’s the nominee.

Is there one Democrat with a single ounce of integrity?

This is a woman who pretended to be a minority to take advantage of diversity goals... of course she has no integrity.

[Tgo01]

The media and the left are currently losing their minds over this video Bloomberg put out on his Twitter account:

https://twitter.com/MikeBloomberg/status/1230515129877434368?s=20

They are calling it "doctored", "edited", and "misleading" and have demanded that Twitter remove "propaganda" videos such as this because people might think it's real and could sway an election "as we've seen in the past."

You would think Twitter would be like "Bitch please! That's clearly fake!" But no, Twitter has indicated when their new rules roll out in a couple of weeks video like this will indeed be removed.

Is it a requirement to suck the fun out of everything in order to be a Democrat these days or what?

[Methais]

The media and the left are currently losing their minds over this video Bloomberg put out on his Twitter account:

https://twitter.com/MikeBloomberg/status/1230515129877434368?s=20

They are calling it "doctored", "edited", and "misleading" and have demanded that Twitter remove "propaganda" videos such as this because people might think it's real and could sway an election "as we've seen in the past."

You would think Twitter would be like "Bitch please! That's clearly fake!" But no, Twitter has indicated when their new rules roll out in a couple of weeks video like this will indeed be removed.

Is it a requirement to suck the fun out of everything in order to be a Democrat these days or what?

:lol:

Democrats don't understand humor, that's why they suck all the oxygen out of every room they enter.

[Astray]

The media and the left are currently losing their minds over this video Bloomberg put out on his Twitter account:

https://twitter.com/MikeBloomberg/status/1230515129877434368?s=20

They are calling it "doctored", "edited", and "misleading" and have demanded that Twitter remove "propaganda" videos such as this because people might think it's real and could sway an election "as we've seen in the past."

You would think Twitter would be like "Bitch please! That's clearly fake!" But no, Twitter has indicated when their new rules roll out in a couple of weeks video like this will indeed be removed.

Is it a requirement to suck the fun out of everything in order to be a Democrat these days or what?

Twitter is rolling out even more rules. They'll be putting red/orange marks on tweets deemed inaccurate. Deemed inaccurate by who? Twitter will be the judge of that!

[Methais]

https://scontent.fbtr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/87059958_1674623286038809_2387807705529057280_n.jp g?_nc_cat=100&_nc_ohc=OVoLCUzmjmUAX-tEt7q&_nc_ht=scontent.fbtr1-1.fna&oh=9999752f224e04f3924c74a6925001e0&oe=5EF9FA31

[Astray]

Does she have 'pops' on her neck? Why? What the fuck?

[Methais]

Does she have 'pops' on her neck? Why? What the fuck?

Maybe the back of her neck says CORN.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/frA3xgQLVRvHF9U6o2/source.gif

[Astray]

Or maybe she's just looking for her dad. It's easy to see why he doesn't reach out.

[Methais]

I thought it was some frail soy boy at first.

Bernie supporters make it harder and harder to tell.

I bet her cunt smells like mothballs.

All I know is that Corn Pop was a bad dude.

[Astray]

I thought it was some frail soy boy at first.

Bernie supporters make it harder and harder to tell.

I bet her cunt smells like mothballs.

All I know is that Corn Pop was a bad dude.

I want to say there's a lack of Adam's apple but I don't want to stare. Due to them being extremely unpleasant to keep eyes on.

Corn Pop was a bad dude.

[Methais]

Corn Pop was a bad dude.

I just want to make it clear that neither of these bad dudes are Corn Pop:

https://giantbomb1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/scale_medium/9/93770/2361144-nes_baddudes.jpg

[Tgo01]

There was another Democratic debate tonight? How did I hear like absolutely nothing about this? Is there just zero enthusiasm for the Democrats this time around or what?

[Parkbandit]

There was another Democratic debate tonight? How did I hear like absolutely nothing about this? Is there just zero enthusiasm for the Democrats this time around or what?

I think there's enthusiasm for Bernie.. people like Backlash who honestly believes that the reason his life is shit is because of banks and the 1%.. and Bernie preys upon their stupidity.

[Tgo01]

During the debate Biden said carnage has been brought to American streets since 2007 resulting in 150 million people being killed by gun violence during that time.

What is even more astonishing is NO ONE, not the other candidates nor the moderators were like uh...Crazy Uncle Joe...? Are you sure about that...?

[Neveragain]

During the debate Biden said carnage has been brought to American streets since 2007 resulting in 150 million people being killed by gun violence during that time.

What is even more astonishing is NO ONE, not the other candidates nor the moderators were like uh...Crazy Uncle Joe...? Are you sure about that...?

Biden lost it all tonight. He was a bumbling fool.

The moderation was so bad that they managed to make this the worst debate yet for the Democrats, by a long shot.

Bloomberg, at one point, basically admitted he bought politicians. When I mean basically, I mean he admitted to paying off politicians. "I bough..um..backed" <--- his actual words

Then Bloomberg said he was sorry for all the scumbag shit he has done that is required to make $63 billion.

Bernie for sure won the debate. If I were to bet money, it's going to be Sanders/Warren ticket.

[~Rocktar~]

Debate Coverage Explodes When Bloomberg Admits He Literally Bought House Seats for Dems


By Joe Setyon, The Western Journal
Published February 25, 2020 at 6:59pm


Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg appeared to just stop himself Tuesday from saying he “bought” the majority in the House of Representatives that Democrats gained in the 2018 midterms.

Bloomberg’s remarks came during the Democratic presidential debate in Charleston, South Carolina.

In the 2018 midterm elections, Democrats gained 40 seats in the House to seize the majority from Republicans, who had controlled the chamber since 2011, NBC News reported.

“Let’s just go on the record, they talk about 40 Democrats, 21 of those were people that I spent $100 million to help elect,” Bloomberg said.

That number is accurate, according to The New York Times.

The Times reported: “Overall spending by Mr. Bloomberg and his organizations in the 2018 elections topped $112 million, an amount that also includes donations to help Senate candidates and progressive organizations.”

“All of the new Democrats that came in put Nancy Pelosi in charge and gave the Congress the ability to control this president,” Bloomberg said Tuesday.

Bloomberg then appeared to stop himself from saying he “bought” those seats.

“I bought — I, I got them,” the former NYC mayor said.



https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/debate-coverage-explodes-bloomberg-admits-literally-bought-house-seats-dems

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Then Bloomberg said he was sorry for all the scumbag shit he has done that is required to make $63 billion.

You mean... like worked for a stock brokerage and then took his millions and created software most of all financial institutes use today? Is that how he did scumbag shit?

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

and I don't mean any shame in that, good for him. Dude went from average joe to top 10 richest people in the WORLD.

[Neveragain]

You mean... like worked for a stock brokerage and then took his millions and created software most of all financial institutes use today? Is that how he did scumbag shit?

No, I mean things like buying politicians.

I'm not saying all billionaires are shitty low life scum but Bloomberg is a scumbag.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

No, I mean things like buying politicians.

Um... you don't think they are for sale?

[Neveragain]

Um... you don't think they are for sale?

Oh, I think they should all be tried and hung along the Lincoln memorial reflection pool.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_members_of_the_United_States_Congr ess_by_wealth

[Neveragain]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_members_of_the_United_States_Congr ess_by_wealth

I agree, it's an extremely bad look and the primary reason the American electorate is considering a socialist for president.

It should be of no surprise that we have reached this point. We have gone from a single income being able to provide for a family to 2 incomes not being able to support a family, in less than 40 years.


Most people think that the big bank bailout was the $700 billion that the treasury department used to save the banks during the financial crash in September of 2008. But this is a long way from the truth because the bailout is still ongoing. The Special Inspector General for TARP summary of the bailout says that the total commitment of government is $16.8 trillion dollars with the $4.6 trillion already paid out. Yes, it was trillions not billions and the banks are now larger and still too big to fail. But it isn’t just the government bailout money that tells the story of the bailout. This is a story about lies, cheating, and a multi-faceted corruption which was often criminal.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikecollins/2015/07/14/the-big-bank-bailout/#67a1d7f32d83

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. This is all very predictable.

[Back]

I think there's enthusiasm for Bernie.. people like Backlash who honestly believes that the reason his life is shit is because of banks and the 1%.. and Bernie preys upon their stupidity.

Woah woah woah buster. Speak for yourself and you won't look like such a complete jackass. I am extremely grateful for everything I am fortunate enough to have and give thanks for it on a daily basis.

My biggest gripe in life currently is healthcare costs. Not much of an issue for me when I was younger, thankfully, but as I get older its fucking criminal how much this shit costs for me and my family.

Beyond that I'm all about robots taking over the labor force on Earth so we can explore space.

Apparently where you and I differ is I know we as a society can change things to make life better for everyone without hurting anyone while you are stuck in the dark ages of fealty and fiefdom thinking you're not as good or don't deserve as much as someone with more money than you.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I agree, it's an extremely bad look and the primary reason the American electorate is considering a socialist for president.

It should be of no surprise that we have reached this point. We have gone from a single income being able to provide for a family to 2 incomes not being able to support a family, in less than 40 years.



https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikecollins/2015/07/14/the-big-bank-bailout/#67a1d7f32d83

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. This is all very predictable.

I was pretty sure I read an article that TARP was actually paid back by some, we made money by buying stock in others and selling it higher, etc?

[Gelston]

My biggest gripe in life currently is healthcare costs. Not much of an issue for me when I was younger, thankfully, but as I get older its fucking criminal how much this shit costs for me and my family.

I'm sure healthcare is very expensive for you and your cat.

[Tgo01]

Woah woah woah buster. Speak for yourself and you won't look like such a complete jackass. I am extremely grateful for everything I am fortunate enough to have and give thanks for it on a daily basis.

My biggest gripe in life currently is healthcare costs. Not much of an issue for me when I was younger, thankfully, but as I get older its fucking criminal how much this shit costs for me and my family.

But Obamacare fixed healthcare costs! After all it's called the AFFORDABLE healthcare act. You're not a racist, are you?

[Alfster]

I'm surprised Trump hasn't just started a push to legalize weed. A good portion of the Bernie crew is there for this one issue

[Neveragain]

I was pretty sure I read an article that TARP was actually paid back by some, we made money by buying stock in others and selling it higher, etc?

Using this argument, socialism must work better than capitalism. Or is that only the case when we steal from the middle class to prop up banks and corporations?

[Neveragain]

I'm surprised Trump hasn't just started a push to legalize weed. A good portion of the Bernie crew is there for this one issue

He's wanting to roll back cannabis legislation.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Using this argument, socialism must work better than capitalism. Or is that only the case when we steal from the middle class to prop up banks and corporations?

I didn't make an argument. I stated what I'd read, which I believe to be factual. I wouldn't equate it to socialism either, just bad policy. My argument would be to never bail out anyone.

[Neveragain]

My argument would be to never bail out anyone.

I agree entirely, but we know that ain't ever going to happen.

How is taking trillions in taxpayer money and giving it to banks and corporations not socialism? Unless your arguing it's fascism, then I would agree.

P.S. It should also be mentioned that the tax payers were overwhelmingly against the bailouts. But the government did it anyway.

[Methais]

Bloomberg, at one point, basically admitted he bought politicians. When I mean basically, I mean he admitted to paying off politicians. "I bough..um..backed" <--- his actual words .

And then everyone cheered.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

How is taking trillions in taxpayer money and giving it to banks and corporations not socialism? Unless your arguing it's fascism, then I would agree.

We do things all the time with taxpayer money and give it to countries, corporations, people and everything else you can think of. I guess you can call it whatever you want, failed or bad policy is what I'd call it.

[Neveragain]

And then everyone cheered.

Another "high" point was Biden pointing angrily at the camera and saying "I'm coming for you!".

Then every viewer was like:

https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-30-2014/k1n5RZ.gif

[drauz]

Bloomberg is a huge globalist who wants to sign us back onto the Paris Accord the minute he's sworn in.

The only thing he splits from the modern Democratic party with is he is fully against socialism and communism, at least for now, and he isn't afraid to state hard facts such as which segment of our society is committing a lot of crimes, although he has now apologized for that so fuck that too.

This is literally why hes running as a Democrat, he doesn't want his billions taken away by Warren or Sanders.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

This is literally why hes running as a Democrat, he doesn't want his billions taken away by Warren or Sanders.

I know it's not true he's just running to foil the other candidates, like an onboard terrorist, but part of me laughs at how effective spending half a billion dollars is. He's in contention and didn't even join in until like a month ago? Think of Booker and Kamala pissing all over themselves about that. Or if an actual good candidate invested half a billion dollars what would happen.

[Methais]

Woah woah woah buster. Speak for yourself and you won't look like such a complete jackass. I am extremely grateful for everything I am fortunate enough to have and give thanks for it on a daily basis.

My biggest gripe in life currently is healthcare costs. Not much of an issue for me when I was younger, thankfully, but as I get older its fucking criminal how much this shit costs for me and my family.

Beyond that I'm all about robots taking over the labor force on Earth so we can explore space.

Apparently where you and I differ is I know we as a society can change things to make life better for everyone without hurting anyone while you are stuck in the dark ages of fealty and fiefdom thinking you're not as good or don't deserve as much as someone with more money than you.

Your underlying problem is that you think big government will tax and legislate us into prosperity and save the world, despite their track record of ruining everything they touch.

[Seran]

I was pretty sure I read an article that TARP was actually paid back by some, we made money by buying stock in others and selling it higher, etc?

Roughly a $14B dollar profit, given payments and recoveries exceeded the government's outlays. It's contentious however, as an investor would see a half a percentage return as lackluster, while large financial institute would crow about the resulting stability brought to our economy by the intervention.

My opinion is somewhere in the middle, the investment companies and banks should have been allowed to fail and be liquidated by the market. The loans made to our manufacturing sector and the infrastructure improvements helped tremendously overall and probably should be considered again if there's another massive downturn.

[Methais]

I'm surprised Trump hasn't just started a push to legalize weed. A good portion of the Bernie crew is there for this one issue

I think he might push for it if he gets reelected but doesn't want to campaign on it and risk losing some votes from the Reefer Madness idiots.

[Parkbandit]

During the debate Biden said carnage has been brought to American streets since 2007 resulting in 150 million people being killed by gun violence during that time.

What is even more astonishing is NO ONE, not the other candidates nor the moderators were like uh...Crazy Uncle Joe...? Are you sure about that...?

What's even more astonishing is that he was the VP from 2008 - 2016... when most of those "150 million" people were killed. Why didn't he do something to stop it then?

[Gelston]

What's even more astonishing is that he was the VP from 2008 - 2016... when most of those "150 million" people were killed. Why didn't he do something to stop it then?

He said he did a lot. He constantly contradicts himself. I think he has a mental disorder that blurs the sequence of events in his head.

[Parkbandit]

Woah woah woah buster. Speak for yourself and you won't look like such a complete jackass. I am extremely grateful for everything I am fortunate enough to have and give thanks for it on a daily basis.

Wait, wait, wait... you don't complain about the banks, corporations and the 1% all the time?

Stop. You don't need any help looking like a complete jackass.. because you are a complete jackass all on your own.


My biggest gripe in life currently is healthcare costs. Not much of an issue for me when I was younger, thankfully, but as I get older its fucking criminal how much this shit costs for me and my family.

Your mom and your cat?


Beyond that I'm all about robots taking over the labor force on Earth so we can explore space.

We're not quite there yet.. and won't be there in your lifetime.

Sorry. Don't quit your day job quite yet. Those tables aren't going to bus themselves.


Apparently where you and I differ is I know we as a society can change things to make life better for everyone without hurting anyone while you are stuck in the dark ages of fealty and fiefdom thinking you're not as good or don't deserve as much as someone with more money than you.

What are you talking about?

The difference between you and I is: I'm living a good life and I don't look at others with envy and jealousy and blame them for my rotten luck.

[Parkbandit]

I'm sure healthcare is very expensive for you and your cat.

Dammit... :(

[Parkbandit]

I'm surprised Trump hasn't just started a push to legalize weed. A good portion of the Bernie crew is there for this one issue

Trump is very anti-drug, due to his brother dying from chemical dependency.

[Parkbandit]

This is literally why hes running as a Democrat, he doesn't want his billions taken away by Warren or Sanders.

He just wasn't much liked by the Republican party and had higher political aspirations than a mayor of a liberal city. Conservatives would never vote for him for President.

Within 6 years, he completely did a 180 on most of his "values".. knowing the only way to the Presidency was through the Democrat Party.

[Alfster]

Trump is very anti-drug, due to his brother dying from chemical dependency.

Weeds the opposite of a chemical.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I think he has a mental disorder

I agree, truthfully. If we could get half the 70 and 80 year old incoherent politicians out of office, our country would be remarkably in a better place. Nothing to do with term limits (which I obvs want very much), but there should be a mental exam to be in office, not talking an IQ test or anything... but basic coherence, recollection, decision making and logic tests. I fear a large majority of our politicians would fail.

[Methais]

I agree, truthfully. If we could get half the 70 and 80 year old incoherent politicians out of office, our country would be remarkably in a better place. Nothing to do with term limits (which I obvs want very much), but there should be a mental exam to be in office, not talking an IQ test or anything... but basic coherence, recollection, decision making and logic tests. I fear a large majority of our politicians would fail.

Some of them are basically walking corpses.

Unrelated: How's Ginsburg doing anyway?

[Tgo01]

Nothing to see here! Just Bernie Sanders, a presidential candidate, fear mongering that either A) there is already a vaccine for the coronavirus but because we don't have his Medicare for all plan it isn't available to everyone or B) when a vaccine is found it won't be available to everyone because we don't have his Medicare for all plan.


We need a vaccine that is available to all, not just those who can afford it.

Let me be clear: it has never been more important to finally guarantee health care as a human right by passing Medicare for All.

Absolutely disgusting that someone running for president literally tells people they are going to die to a virus unless they vote for him. What is wrong with Democrats and the people who support them?

[Ashlander]

Nothing to see here! Just Bernie Sanders, a presidential candidate, fear mongering that either A) there is already a vaccine for the coronavirus but because we don't have his Medicare for all plan it isn't available to everyone or B) when a vaccine is found it won't be available to everyone because we don't have his Medicare for all plan.



Absolutely disgusting that someone running for president literally tells people they are going to die to a virus unless they vote for him. What is wrong with Democrats and the people who support them?

How does he feel about Biden curing cancer if he wins?

[Tgo01]

How does he feel about Biden curing cancer if he wins?

It really is a tough choice: do we elect Biden so he can cure all cancer or do we elect Bernie so he can cure coronavirus?

[~Rocktar~]

Elect neither, the world needs population control and the dumbass Leftist antivaxxers need to be first on the list.

[Some Rogue]

YEAH. LET'S LET THOSE LITTLE KIDS DIE BECAUSE OF THEIR STUPID PARENTS. THAT WILL SHOW THEM.

Now if it were only "leftists" who were antivax....

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/449525268529815552

[Parkbandit]

I agree, truthfully. If we could get half the 70 and 80 year old incoherent politicians out of office, our country would be remarkably in a better place. Nothing to do with term limits (which I obvs want very much), but there should be a mental exam to be in office, not talking an IQ test or anything... but basic coherence, recollection, decision making and logic tests. I fear a large majority of our politicians would fail.

The problem is: Who would be responsible to administer the test?

Like having lists or registries of any sort.. they are easily manipulated by humans that put politics or personal beliefs ahead of just doing their job.

[Methais]

The problem is: Who would be responsible to administer the test?

Like having lists or registries of any sort.. they are easily manipulated by humans that put politics or personal beliefs ahead of just doing their job.

It should be based on things like...if they make statements like how Guam will tip over and capsize from having too many people, they need to go.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cesSRfXqS1Q

[Tgo01]

It should be based on things like...if they make statements like how Guam will tip over and capsize from having too many people, they need to go.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cesSRfXqS1Q

I can't believe that guy is still in office. Privilege is a real thing in this country; if you are a Democrat, and especially a black Democrat, you have a great deal of privilege in Congress.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

The problem is: Who would be responsible to administer the test?

Like having lists or registries of any sort.. they are easily manipulated by humans that put politics or personal beliefs ahead of just doing their job.

It wasn't a real suggestion. More of a hope and dream. Not like we'll ever have term limits or minimum intelligence/coherence tests for political offices.

[~Rocktar~]

YEAH. LET'S LET THOSE LITTLE KIDS DIE BECAUSE OF THEIR STUPID PARENTS. THAT WILL SHOW THEM.

Now if it were only "leftists" who were antivax....

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/449525268529815552

You assume, incorrectly, that I somehow excuse conservative antivaxxers from being dumbasses on that point.

[Tgo01]

Democrats voted against a resolution to condemn Sanders' praises of the brutal Castro regime in Cuba.

And the Democratic party has the nerve to claim Trump loves him some dictators? The Democrats no longer have any right to speak about Trump's supposed love of dictators after this bullshit.

The Democratic party is now officially the party of praising dictators and terrorist sponsoring states, there really is no other way to look at it.

[Some Rogue]

You assume, incorrectly, that I somehow excuse conservative antivaxxers from being dumbasses on that point.

Yeah, don't know why anyone would think that...


the dumbass Leftist antivaxxers

[Gelston]

Yeah, don't know why anyone would think that...

Antivaxxers cross party lines.

[Some Rogue]

Antivaxxers cross party lines.

That was my point to begin with.

[Methais]

YEAH. LET'S LET THOSE LITTLE KIDS DIE BECAUSE OF THEIR STUPID PARENTS. THAT WILL SHOW THEM.

Now if it were only "leftists" who were antivax....

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/449525268529815552

You're lucky BacKKKlash isn't here or he'd tell you to stop being so binary.

[Some Rogue]

You're lucky BacKKKlash isn't here or he'd tell you to stop being so binary.

https://steemitimages.com/DQmWcwtAx6peVPcj9yyiECCQfPFKUsic4YwE17e3JjeQxuB/26da32597d9bd37fde9da22660aa524f24fd725c.jpg4

That does not compute.