2020 Democrat primary debates

[Astray]

You're a Mexican. No one cares about those tribes. We only care about the ones that came from the East Coast.

I'm part Mexican. Part Navajo, which is a distant relation to the Apache.

[~Rocktar~]

I'm claiming 1/1024th Cherokee and going to open a womens studies interpretive dance studio. Dolla bills ya'll! I'm also going to attend school full time (while running my non-profit) and get 50K a year in government free loans. FUCK YEAH. EVERYTHING IS FREE BITCHES.

So when can I get reparations from your tribe? I am 1/64th Creek, you Cherokee came down south, waged war, enslaved our people and absorbed our tribe as quickly as you could, few of us remained when the white settlers put our kids in mission schools. I want my casino money, we know you rake it in from Harrah's and others.

</sarcasm only slightly, I would get status if I had a shorter line, but I also look about as white as white gets so that doesn't help>

[Gelston]

I'm part Mexican. Part Navajo, which is a distant relation to the Apache.

Yeah, both tribes that were from Mexico, until we decided we wanted the land it it became not Mexico anymore.

[Astray]

both tribes that were from Mexico

There's a difference between the two, Gayston!!!!!1231!one

[Gelston]

There's a difference between the two, Gayston!!!!!1231!one

They aren't anymore different than Germans and Austrians are different.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

So when can I get reparations from your tribe? I am 1/64th Creek, you Cherokee came down south, waged war, enslaved our people and absorbed our tribe as quickly as you could, few of us remained when the white settlers put our kids in mission schools. I want my casino money, we know you rake it in from Harrah's and others.

</sarcasm only slightly, I would get status if I had a shorter line, but I also look about as white as white gets so that doesn't help>

Once I get reparations from Spain, I will pass down 1/64th reparations to you from Cherokee. Also, over 4000 years ago I came from Africa, so I'm also claiming my African reparations, I'll cut you in for part of it if you provide me with a DNA test showing you have 1/3024th African. Also, I'm gender X, so I'll expect reparations for being the 32nd gender on the LGBTQXYZABC+ spectrum. I also noticed my pubs are very curly, and sometimes I see a red one. I'm claiming Irish inheritance tax and expect to make a ton from that as well when I sue the British. Also, I like firearms and blowing shit up, so I'll be claiming a muslim exception on my next tax form.

[Astray]

They aren't anymore different than Germans and Austrians are different.

If you believe that, you're very wrong.

[Gelston]

If you believe that, you're very wrong.

Nope. Just a bunch of brown people that the US Cav chased around the desert.

[Gelston]

Speaking of which, Modelo, Corona, Pacifico, etc... All Austrian beers.

[Astray]

Nope. Just a bunch of brown people that the US Cav chased around the desert.

You are getting stabbed.

[Gelston]

You are getting stabbed.

Oh great, another dirty injun that had too much firewater.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Oh great, another dirty injun that had too much firewater.

The most drunk person I've ever met in the world was in a holding tank at the PD who continually told the police I "wasn't drunk enough for a white boy to be in jail".

Big ups to drunk injun.

[Astray]

Oh great, another dirty injun that had too much firewater.

That's it! I'm getting on my horse and riding to scalp you.

[Gelston]

The most drunk person I've ever met in the world was in a holding tank at the PD who continually told the police I "wasn't drunk enough for a white boy to be in jail".

Big ups to drunk injun.

Every NAtive I've ever known goes from Awesome to Asshole in 1.3 beers. I don't know if it is because alcohol wasn't as ingrained in Native American culture as it was in European or what.

[Gelston]

That's it! I'm getting on my horse and riding to scalp you.

Then I shall don my Cavalry saber and prepare my gatling gun.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Every NAtive I've ever known goes from Awesome to Asshole in 1.3 beers. I don't know if it is because alcohol wasn't as ingrained in Native American culture as it was in European or what.

I've heard genetically American Indians cannot handle alcohol very well. Which, truthfully, does explain quite a bit.

[Astray]

Every NAtive I've ever known goes from Awesome to Asshole in 1.3 beers. I don't know if it is because alcohol wasn't as ingrained in Native American culture as it was in European or what.

Pffft, you just haven't hung around the right ones.

[Gelston]

Pffft, you just haven't hung around the right ones.

I've hung around the best ones.

[Tgo01]

It's being reported that Swalwell is going to end his presidential bid tonight so he can focus on getting reelected in congress.

Apparently he's such a shit candidate for both positions that he's worried he's going to lose both.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

It's being reported that Swalwell is going to end his presidential bid tonight so he can focus on getting reelected in congress.

Apparently he's such a shit candidate for both positions that he's worried he's going to lose both.

"Swalwell had sent mixed signals on his intention to run again if his White House bid failed. In February, before announcing his candidacy, Swalwell told the San Francisco Chronicle he would “burn the boats” and not look back on his House seat.“I would want people to know that I’m putting my all into this and I don’t have a life insurance policy,” he said. But more recently, Swalwell wavered in his vow to seek the presidency or bust."

Swallow is such a douche he can't even keep his promise from 4 months ago.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-2020-swalwell-presidential-campaign-20190708-story.html

[Methais]

It's being reported that Swalwell is going to end his presidential bid tonight so he can focus on getting reelected in congress.

Apparently he's such a shit candidate for both positions that he's worried he's going to lose both.

I'm sure that 0.000000001% of voters are very disappointed to hear this.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Based on the "Squad", Biden/Bern and all the other losers I'm making an early prediction. Repubs win back the house, keep senate and Trump is re-elected.

The silent American's watching the debacle in the house, the rampant identity politics, the complete hypocrisy and false narratives imagined by dem leaders, and a do nothing congress will make Trump more popular than ever. Also, no one will vote in a socialist, and to win the dem nom it's gonna have to be a socialist.

I also predict AOC will have a strong (Republican) challenger in her primary, but she'll keep her seat.

In summary, the tears of liberal retards with TDS will replenish our natural water reserves.

[Methais]

Based on the "Squad", Biden/Bern and all the other losers I'm making an early prediction. Repubs win back the house, keep senate and Trump is re-elected.

The silent American's watching the debacle in the house, the rampant identity politics, the complete hypocrisy and false narratives imagined by dem leaders, and a do nothing congress will make Trump more popular than ever. Also, no one will vote in a socialist, and to win the dem nom it's gonna have to be a socialist.

I also predict AOC will have a strong (Republican) challenger in her primary, but she'll keep her seat.

In summary, the tears of liberal retards with TDS will replenish our natural water reserves.

Scherie Murray is latest Republican to run for AOC’s seat (https://nypost.com/2019/07/17/republican-jamaican-immigrant-is-latest-to-run-for-aocs-seat/)

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/07/aoc-challenger.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=618&h=410&crop=1

Scherie Murray, a Jamaican-born woman who grew up in Queens and founded a TV production and advertising company, plans to run for the congressional seat held by Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, according to a report.

“There is a crisis in Queens, and it’s called AOC,” Murray, 38, told Fox News. “And instead of focusing on us, she’s focusing on being famous. Mainly rolling back progress and authoring the job-killing Green New Deal and killing the Amazon New York deal.”

The Republican, who moved to the US when she was 9, slams the New York progressive darling in an introductory video.

“Your representative in Washington chooses self-promotion over service, conflict over constituents, resistance over assistance,” Murray says in the video.

“Queens and the Bronx needs someone who will create jobs instead of turning them away.”

Asked about AOC’s brand of Democratic socialism, Murray told Fox News: “I think it’s far, far to the left and it is not connecting with everyday Americans.”

As for “Medicare-for-all,” which Ocasio-Cortez, 29, has backed, Murray said: “Medicare-for-all, I think a lot of people are happy with their current health insurance.”

And on the Green New Deal, the climate change plan championed by AOC, she said: “We know that it certainly will kill jobs.”

Murray joins four other Republicans — former cop John Cummings, journalist Ruth Papazian, construction contractor Miguel Hernandez and businessman Antoine Tucker — who have filed to run for her seat.

So far, no Democrats have announced a primary challenge to Ocasio-Cortez, who shocked the Democratic Party establishment in 2018 by toppling Rep. Joe Crowley in a primary.

Murray, a full-time mom who worked for the city’s Jamaica Bus Depot as a teen, founded a TV production and advertising company called The Esemel Group in 2004.

https://nypost.com/2019/07/17/republican-jamaican-immigrant-is-latest-to-run-for-aocs-seat/

I wonder how they'll try to make her into a sexist white supremacist xenophobe.

[Astray]

AOC is likely going to push back but she can't play the racist card so she's going to go full retard or pretend like there's no competition.

[Methais]

AOC is likely going to push back but she can't play the racist card so she's going to go full retard or pretend like there's no competition.

If she wins again, then the whole country will know that her district is the stupidest district in the entire country.

We'll also know that Backlash lives in her district.

[Astray]

If she wins again, then the whole country will know that her district is the stupidest district in the entire country.

We'll also know that Backlash lives in her district.

Back probably hates chowda.

[Methais]

Back probably hates chowda.

He probably hates McDowell's too.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Based on the "Squad", Biden/Bern and all the other losers I'm making an early prediction. Repubs win back the house, keep senate and Trump is re-elected.

The silent American's watching the debacle in the house, the rampant identity politics, the complete hypocrisy and false narratives imagined by dem leaders, and a do nothing congress will make Trump more popular than ever. Also, no one will vote in a socialist, and to win the dem nom it's gonna have to be a socialist.

I also predict AOC will have a strong (Republican) challenger in her primary, but she'll keep her seat.

In summary, the tears of liberal retards with TDS will replenish our natural water reserves.

I want to add to my prediction, that when Trump wins in 2020, he'll also get two SCOTUS seats.

Man, what a great time to be alive!

[Gelston]

I want to add to my prediction, that when Trump wins in 2020, he'll also get two SCOTUS seats.

Man, what a great time to be alive!

RBG said she is going to step down after 2020, which will be huge for Conservatives. To actually replace a liberal judge, rather than a swing judge as Kavanaugh replaced.

[Parkbandit]

LOL... they are blaming the plight on Detroit on Bill Clinton?

Dude.. it might be because liberal policies have been in effect in that city for decades.

[Parkbandit]

Bernie comes across as an angry white old man in every response.

[Parkbandit]

"Make sure these new jobs are union jobs"

What does being in a union have to do with climate change?

[Gelston]

"Make sure these new jobs are union jobs"

What does being in a union have to do with climate change?

Oh, I was wondering wtf you were going on about. Thought you had the big one. Then I realized the democrat debates were on.

[Tgo01]

Oh, I was wondering wtf you were going on about. Thought you had the big one. Then I realized the democrat debates were on.

It's honestly so surreal. The 2015 primaries for both parties were a big deal, all over the news and social media. Every time a candidate from either party opened their mouth it was front page national news.

This time around though I am hardly hearing about the primaries at all. I have heard next to nothing from any candidate since the last primary. I honestly didn't even know the debates were going on tonight.

I know it's partly because we didn't have an incumbent president in 2016 compared to this time but still, seems like the Democrats aren't getting much press at all. I know a huge part of this is because the press is too busy shitting on Trump whenever possible but honestly getting this little amount of press coverage can't be good for the Democrats. On the other hand maybe the media know the Democrats are spewing nothing but shit policies so they think not giving them much press coverage is a good thing for them, and it might be the right call.

[Gelston]

It's honestly so surreal. The 2015 primaries for both parties were a big deal, all over the news and social media. Every time a candidate from either party opened their mouth it was front page national news.

This time around though I am hardly hearing about the primaries at all. I have heard next to nothing from any candidate since the last primary. I honestly didn't even know the debates were going on tonight.

I know it's partly because we didn't have an incumbent president in 2016 compared to this time but still, seems like the Democrats aren't getting much press at all. I know a huge part of this is because the press is too busy shitting on Trump whenever possible but honestly getting this little amount of press coverage can't be good for the Democrats. On the other hand maybe the media know the Democrats are spewing nothing but shit policies so they think not giving them much press coverage is a good thing for them, and it might be the right call.

I was watching shark week. And I think it is because the RNC debates were very energizing. Between all the candidates and Donald Trump, it was amazing TV. I think that is something that helped the RNC in the election that year. The DNC is just.. Uninspired.

[Parkbandit]

It's honestly so surreal. The 2015 primaries for both parties were a big deal, all over the news and social media. Every time a candidate from either party opened their mouth it was front page national news.

This time around though I am hardly hearing about the primaries at all. I have heard next to nothing from any candidate since the last primary. I honestly didn't even know the debates were going on tonight.

I know it's partly because we didn't have an incumbent president in 2016 compared to this time but still, seems like the Democrats aren't getting much press at all. I know a huge part of this is because the press is too busy shitting on Trump whenever possible but honestly getting this little amount of press coverage can't be good for the Democrats. On the other hand maybe the media know the Democrats are spewing nothing but shit policies so they think not giving them much press coverage is a good thing for them, and it might be the right call.

They were on CNN... so I'm not surprised no one heard they were on.

[Neveragain]

They were on CNN... so I'm not surprised no one heard they were on.

Biden and Harris will be the focus of attention tonight.

Democrats are making a huuuge mistake placing Biden and Kamala on the same stage this early.

Really the only question at this point is, does Biden have the balls to stand up to the 3rd wave feminists?

If I were Biden this would be the first thing out of my mouth tonight: "Before answering your question I would like to personally put aside this crazy notion that our President is a racist, I do not think Donald Trump is a racist."

Then I would focus on labeling every far-left idea as poorly thought out fantasies.

I'm still counting on a "surprise" candidate to come out in the next couple weeks. Because there ain't no fucking way you have this many terrible candidates on accident.

[Parkbandit]

Biden and Harris will be the focus of attention tonight.

Democrats are making a huuuge mistake placing Biden and Kamala on the same stage this early.

Really the only question at this point is, does Biden have the balls to stand up to the 3rd wave feminists?

If I were Biden this would be the first thing out of my mouth tonight: "Before answering your question I would like to personally put aside this crazy notion that our President is a racist, I do not think Donald Trump is a racist."

Then I would focus on labeling every far-left idea as poorly thought out fantasies.

I'm still counting on a "surprise" candidate to come out in the next couple weeks. Because there ain't no fucking way you have this many terrible candidates on accident.

He can’t, given his work with segregationists in the past. He should just tell Kamala that if she plays her cards right, he will select her as VP. If that doesn’t work, tell her that she can sleep with him to get a step up on her competition.

She’s been known to sleep with guys to get promotions in the past...

[Parkbandit]

How is it that people are saying Williamson won the debate last night? I watched it for an hour or so last night... don’t remember hearing her once. Did she do some spiritual cleansing... or were the others just so fucking terrible she won by NOT talking?

[Gelston]

How is it that people are saying Williamson won the debate last night? I watched it for an hour or so last night... don’t remember hearing her once. Did she do some spiritual cleansing... or were the others just so fucking terrible she won by NOT talking?

I heard her a few times. She was pretty well studied, but still kinda weird. I think she "won" because it showed she isn't a complete whacko with no idea what is going on. She is just "fucking weird" but knows about the events. Others looked bad. I was glad to see some Dem's calling out Warren and Sanders though.

[Archigeek]

How is it that people are saying Williamson won the debate last night? I watched it for an hour or so last night... don’t remember hearing her once. Did she do some spiritual cleansing... or were the others just so fucking terrible she won by NOT talking?

15 months from the election. I don't know why anyone is wasting their time watching the debates. I skipped the Republican clown car debates last time around, and I'll be doing the same with the Democrats this time. In about six months I might start paying attention.

[Gelston]

15 months from the election. I don't know why anyone is wasting their time watching the debates. I skipped the Republican clown car debates last time around, and I'll be doing the same with the Democrats this time. In about six months I might start paying attention.

I'd agree if the field wasn't so large. If it was just 2 people? I'd wait. Also, it is entertainment.

[Methais]

15 months from the election. I don't know why anyone is wasting their time watching the debates. I skipped the Republican clown car debates last time around, and I'll be doing the same with the Democrats this time. In about six months I might start paying attention.

I doubt many people are watching the debates for anything more than laughs.

[Tgo01]

15 months from the election. I don't know why anyone is wasting their time watching the debates. I skipped the Republican clown car debates last time around, and I'll be doing the same with the Democrats this time. In about six months I might start paying attention.

You're not the only one disappointed with this clown show apparently. Half as many people watched last night's debate compared to the first round of Democrat debates.

[Parkbandit]

15 months from the election. I don't know why anyone is wasting their time watching the debates. I skipped the Republican clown car debates last time around, and I'll be doing the same with the Democrats this time. In about six months I might start paying attention.

I'm a political junkie... and plus it's fun to watch liberals trying to out give away each other.

[Gelston]

You're not the only one disappointed with this clown show apparently. Half as many people watched last night's debate compared to the first round of Democrat debates.

Poor CNN. Honestly, I don't care for the way Don Lemon asks questions. He is far from a non-biased moderator. He states, for a fact, that Trump is a racist and is purposely creating racial divides when asking questions, for instance. I'm curious if he'll be involved with the actual Presidential debates at all.

[Parkbandit]

You're not the only one disappointed with this clown show apparently. Half as many people watched last night's debate compared to the first round of Democrat debates.

I honestly think it's more that it's on CNN than anything else.

That network is a complete joke.. as evidenced by Don Lemon being a moderator.

[Parkbandit]

Poor CNN. Honestly, I don't care for the way Don Lemon asks questions. He is far from a non-biased moderator. He states, for a fact, that Trump is a racist and is purposely creating racial divides when asking questions, for instance. I'm curious if he'll be involved with the actual Presidential debates at all.

Well, Trump used the word "infested" when talking about Baltimore. If that isn't evidence, I don't know what is.

[Archigeek]

I have the opposite take. If it was down to 2 I'd watch, except for the fact that it's 15 months before the election! On principle, I'm just not going to get drawn in. The process has just gotten too long.

[Gelston]

I have the opposite take. If it was down to 2 I'd watch, except for the fact that it's 15 months before the election! On principle, I'm just not going to get drawn in. The process has just gotten too long.

I honestly don't have a dog in the fight. I'm a registered Republican. It is pure entertainment for me. Actually, I flipped back to Shark Week halfway through.

[Parkbandit]

I have the opposite take. If it was down to 2 I'd watch, except for the fact that it's 15 months before the election! On principle, I'm just not going to get drawn in. The process has just gotten too long.

Yea.. I get it. I don't care who wins... if they go for their "We will give you free stuff if you vote for us!" they will end up losing to Trump anyway.

There are only so many really, really stupid people in this country that would buy that..

[Archigeek]

I honestly don't have a dog in the fight. I'm a registered Republican. It is pure entertainment for me. Actually, I flipped back to Shark Week halfway through.

As a Democrat, I do have an interest, but I'm not interested enough to put up with 15+ months of nonstop presidential politics.

[Archigeek]

Yea.. I get it. I don't care who wins... if they go for their "We will give you free stuff if you vote for us!" they will end up losing to Trump anyway.

There are only so many really, really stupid people in this country that would buy that..

Remember during the last election when I said the middle aged white misogynist vote wasn't enough to get Trump elected? Don't count those chickens just yet.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

middle aged white misogynist vote

As opposed to the young/old non-white misandry vote?

It's so fucking insulting to assume a Trump voter is a middle aged white misogynist.

I sincerely hope identity politics gets dropped because I'm fucking tired of it. I'll vote for Trump because I'm tired of hearing how me being middle aged and white makes me a bigot or some fucking privileged individual.

I -DIDN'T- vote for Trump last time but I for damn sure going to this time around because of exactly that.

[Methais]

Well, Trump used the word "infested" when talking about Baltimore. If that isn't evidence, I don't know what is.

I saw a clip this morning on fb that I'm too lazy to go look for of Cummings talking about Baltimore being infested too, back when he was running for office. :lol:

EDIT:
https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1156611903231352833

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I saw a clip this morning on fb that I'm too lazy to go look for of Cummings talking about Baltimore being infested too, back when he was running for office. :lol:

Back in 1996?

[Parkbandit]

Remember during the last election when I said the middle aged white misogynist vote wasn't enough to get Trump elected? Don't count those chickens just yet.

Yea. I remember how wrong you were. Looks like Trump has broader appeal than just the middle aged white misogynist voter.

You know who wasn't wrong about the election results though?

https://media1.giphy.com/media/dZtae4XSLInB4JVKAu/giphy.gif

[Parkbandit]

I saw a clip this morning on fb that I'm too lazy to go look for of Cummings talking about Baltimore being infested too, back when he was running for office. :lol:




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jA88t4lk_Qw

I heard a "journalist" saying that using the word "infested" is just double speak for racism.

I laughed.

[Parkbandit]

Back in 1996?

WE

NEED

TERM

LIMITS

[Tgo01]

I -DIDN'T- vote for Trump last time but I for damn sure going to this time around because of exactly that.

Me too. I really hope the left's constant attack on voters bites them in the ass in 2020. But something tells me it won't because there are a lot of white people filled with white guilt and anger because Satan herself lost in 2016.

[Alfster]

I voted for Trump and it felt like you had to choose between two shitty candidates. It'll be interesting to see how the folks that aren't far left or right will vote in this election.

[Tgo01]

I voted for Trump and it felt like you had to choose between two shitty candidates. It'll be interesting to see how the folks that aren't far left or right will vote in this election.

I'm not "far right" at all, but I do lean to the right. Trump has done a terrific job as president, much better than I anticipated. Is he "mean" sometimes? Sure. Are we voting for who does a good job as president or who is the nicest? Because if we're voting for who is the nicest Trump still wins, at least he's not calling everyone who votes for his opponent racist, sexist bigots.

All of the Democrat candidates are complete jokes. I thought Biden might at least be moderate, but he's pandering so hard for the far left vote that he's just another far left Democrat goon. Honestly all of the Democrat candidates are basically the same. They are all NPCs you see all over Twitter and Reddit.

[Parkbandit]

I voted for Trump...

Dude...... why are you constantly bitching about it then?

He's not any different than he was in 2016...

[Alfster]

This race rioting shit is getting old. I agree with you on the concept of not voting for someone nice, but I obviously have a different view on how he's performed. He's alienated our allies, he's bailing out farmers for his inability to make a deal with the Chinese (socialism), and he has picked the absolute worst people to lead various areas of government.

[Alfster]

Dude...... why are you constantly bitching about it then?

He's not any different than he was in 2016...

It was more of anti Hillary than pro Trump.

[Tgo01]

He's alienated our allies

How? All of our allies are still our allies. Asking them to stop treating Iran with kid gloves and to uphold their end of the deal to spend more on their military isn't "alienating" them. Some of our allies have grown closer to us under Trump, such as Israel, Saudi Arabia, Poland, etc.


he's bailing out farmers for his inability to make a deal with the Chinese (socialism)

Everyone for decades has been bitching that China isn't playing fair, even Democrat candidates TODAY are bitching that China isn't playing fair. Finally after decades of our politicians doing nothing, Trump decides to do something and everyone just shits all over him for it.


and he has picked the absolute worst people to lead various areas of government.

I agree partly. Jeff Sessions was absolutely horrible compared to Barr, and it cost the Republicans a seat in the senate which will hopefully be rectified come 2020.

[Tgo01]

It was more of anti Hillary than pro Trump.

Honestly I would take Hillary's policies any day of the week over ANY of the Democrat candidates this time around. I just would never vote for Satan herself, despite her policies.

How are any of the Democrats looking good compared to Hillary? I gotta hear some details.

[Alfster]

I haven't paid much attention this early - it seems to be filled with race baiting and pipe dreams

[Parkbandit]

It was more of anti Hillary than pro Trump.

Sorry.. doesn't really explain your severe case of TDS.

Like at all.

[Parkbandit]

I haven't paid much attention this early - it seems to be filled with race baiting and pipe dreams

To be fair.. that's all the Democratic Party has had for the past 20 years.

"Hope and Change" was literally a pipe dream.

[Alfster]

Sorry.. doesn't really explain your severe case of TDS.

Like at all.

Maybe it's not as bad as you think?

Nah. It's pretty bad. He's a dumpster fire in the oval office in my opion.

[Gelston]

opion.

Opion? Like opium? Druggie.

[Alfster]

I do like my weeeed

[Parkbandit]

Maybe it's not as bad as you think?

Nah. It's pretty bad.

I agree. It's borderline manic.


He's a dumpster fire in the oval office in my opion.

Specifically.. what is he doing differently now than he did in his campaign for the nomination?

It might just be you...

While I might not like the guy... he's exactly how I expected him to behave.

I'm pleased with most of his policy decisions though.. except the high spending he's doing. My hope is the 2nd term is concentrated more on cutting the deficit and getting rid of some ballooned bureaucracy.

[~Rocktar~]

John Stossel is here to help condense the circus to a manageable standard. How much money of the public's money do each of the candidates want to give away.


https://youtu.be/G5odA8Gsmzs

[Parkbandit]

Biden looked terrible last night.

Also: How did I JUST find out Biden has a Joker smile?!


https://i.chzbgr.com/full/6665123072/h16157F88/

[Neveragain]

Biden looked terrible last night.

Also: How did I JUST find out Biden has a Joker smile?!


https://i.chzbgr.com/full/6665123072/h16157F88/

Tulsi destroyed Kamala.

I think Tulsi is the only candidate that can beat Trump.

[audioserf]

Officer down, Tulsi absolutely bodied Copmala Harris

[Alfster]

Specifically.. what is he doing differently now than he did in his campaign for the nomination?

It might just be you...

While I might not like the guy... he's exactly how I expected him to behave.


What has he really accomplished?

So far they've replaced roughly 50 miles of border wall, but no new walls in places where a barrier didn't already exist. Mexico isn't paying for it either.

He campaigned on the ridiculous amount of golf that Obama played then turned around and started golfing far more frequently than Obama.

Infrastructure was a key point of his that hasn't had any movement, it's starting to gain traction now.

His overall fundamental misunderstanding of who pays tariffs, along with our need to bail out farmers again.

Selling of arms to Saudi without congressional approval.

The main thing is national security issues all over the place. For the group that campaigned on lock her up, it's ridiculous that they have no issues using private email and applications for communication with foreign entities. The ridiculous number of people who were given security clearances they simply shouldn't have.

Then start adding in his daily lies and it's just a dumpster fire.

[Parkbandit]

What has he really accomplished?

So, he hasn’t really changed since running and you voting for him.


So far they've replaced roughly 50 miles of border wall, but no new walls in places where a barrier didn't already exist. Mexico isn't paying for it either.

Did you vote for him to build the wall though? I’m confused.. you voted for him and now have buyers remorse because he didn’t build the wall?


He campaigned on the ridiculous amount of golf that Obama played then turned around and started golfing far more frequently than Obama.

So you voted for him because he campaigned for playing less golf than Obama?


Infrastructure was a key point of his that hasn't had any movement, it's starting to gain traction now.

So you voted for him on his infrastructure plan... which was less than Hillary’s?


His overall fundamental misunderstanding of who pays tariffs, along with our need to bail out farmers again.

Did we stop bailing out farmers?


Selling of arms to Saudi without congressional approval.

You believe this is illegal.. or you just want Congress to be a part of it?


The main thing is national security issues all over the place. For the group that campaigned on lock her up, it's ridiculous that they have no issues using private email and applications for communication with foreign entities. The ridiculous number of people who were given security clearances they simply shouldn't have.

Then start adding in his daily lies and it's just a dumpster fire.

So, you voted for the guy who had no foreign policy experience over someone who did... and this is your main point of contention with him?

If I didn’t know any better... I’d say there might be a couple voices in your head that are battling for dominance.

You are literally all over the place.

Maybe not RandPaulFanBoi to FeelTheBernie type.. but certainly all over.

[Parkbandit]

Tulsi destroyed Kamala.

I think Tulsi is the only candidate that can beat Trump.

No one knows her though. She won’t get past Crazy Bernie or even Biden this time. Heck, she probably won’t even make the cut to be on stage next month.

[Parkbandit]

Officer down, Tulsi absolutely bodied Copmala Harris

Kamala’s interview with Cooper after the debate was a really bad look for her... basically saying she doesn’t want to brag, but she’s a top tier nominee and Tulsi won’t even make the stage next debate...

[Methais]

Remember during the last election when I said the middle aged white misogynist vote wasn't enough to get Trump elected? Don't count those chickens just yet.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/006/075/Bad_Post.jpg.jpg

Keep clinging onto those identity politics. It's been working out fantastically for your party.

[Methais]

I haven't paid much attention this early - it seems to be filled with race baiting and pipe dreams

Is this something you're recently discovering about the democrat party?

[Methais]

No one knows her though. She won’t get past Crazy Bernie or even Biden this time. Heck, she probably won’t even make the cut to be on stage next month.

But she's hot and her name spelled backwards is iSlut.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/1tilAKApbrw7m/giphy.gif

https://images.huffingtonpost.com/2009-11-04-islut2.png

[Parkbandit]

Jay Inslee at least had a truthful moment last night that most people probably didn’t catch. He said that the Climate Change isn’t just about the climate... it’s about everything the Democrats want. It’s about healthcare, economy, income inequality, etc...

Which is the first time a Democrat was honest about this bullshit that I can remember.

[Parkbandit]

But she's hot and her name spelled backwards is iSlut.


True. She seems to be the least crazy as well.

[Archigeek]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/006/075/Bad_Post.jpg.jpg

Keep clinging onto those identity politics. It's been working out fantastically for your party.

Bringing up my own misread of the voting public = clinging to identity politics? Cool meme though.

[Gelston]

No one knows her though. She won’t get past Crazy Bernie or even Biden this time. Heck, she probably won’t even make the cut to be on stage next month.

That is the purpose of the debates. People get to know her.

[Parkbandit]

That is the purpose of the debates. People get to know her.

Sorry.. DNC won’t let that happen:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/russia-s-propaganda-machine-discovers-2020-democratic-candidate-tulsi-gabbard-n964261

[Gelston]

Sorry.. DNC won’t let that happen:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/russia-s-propaganda-machine-discovers-2020-democratic-candidate-tulsi-gabbard-n964261

Jesus, Russia again?

[Parkbandit]

Bringing up my own misread of the voting public = clinging to identity politics? Cool meme though.

No, claiming that only white misogynist males voted for Trump is you clinging to identity politics and willful ignorance.

You learned nothing from 2016... and the same lesson will be taught to you in 2020.

[Parkbandit]

Jesus, Russia again?

Russia is the new Boogyman

[Gelston]

I don't think Archi was necessarily wrong. I'm pretty sure Trump got the white misogynist vote. He also got votes from lots of other people. Just like Hillary probably got the white misandry vote.

[Tgo01]

What has he really accomplished?

So far they've replaced roughly 50 miles of border wall, but no new walls in places where a barrier didn't already exist. Mexico isn't paying for it either.

Just off the top of my head:

He recently got 5+ billion dollars approved for border wall construction, he's barely 2.5 years into the job, give him a break. I don't think anyone, even Trump's staunchest supporters, thought he was going to complete the wall in less than 2 years.

He managed to get Mexico to beef up security on both their southern border and their northern border to help stop the flow of illegal immigrants, which isn't exactly paying for the wall but hey good enough since our Congress ain't doing shit about it.

He got several countries to agree to a third country safe harbor agreement meaning if an "asylum" seeker crosses through one of those countries first they have to apply for asylum there first instead of skipping those countries to apply in the US.

He managed to get a massive tax plan passed which lowered taxes for most Americans as well as American corporations.

He cut thousands of regulations, spurring business growth.

Unemployment is low, black and Latino unemployment is at historic lows.

The stock market keeps breaking new records.

The US is now the world leader in producing oil.

He got the prison reform bill passed through congress.

He got the ball rolling on moving the Israeli embassy to Jerusalem (it hasn't been moved yet I don't think but that's because there's a whole process to it.)

A lot of shit many past presidents have talked about doing and promised to do but didn't, Trump did it all in less than 2.5 years.

Let's face it, if this had been a Democrat president the media would be writing songs about the man and his approval rating would be 60%+. But since it's a Republican president doing it all the media is doing such a shit job you are sitting here saying "What has he done? Replaced like, what, 50 miles of border wall?"

The media is garbage and doesn't care about the American people, all they care about is putting Democrats in power, and I'm glad after all of these decades they are finally being exposed for their blatant bias instead of giving the false impression that they are unbiased professional journalists.

[Alfster]

You are literally all over the place.

Maybe not RandPaulFanBoi to FeelTheBernie type.. but certainly all over.

One of the main things that I saw as potential was running the government like a business, done in a methodical way it could be incredibly efficient in comparison to what we have today. Government contracts are notorious for waste, which is frustrating to me. Obviously some programs are going to be more expensive than others, but there's still ways to reduce costs. The reality has been the opposite where we've cut taxes and increased spending while also implementing trade wars that have added to the costs.

It's much like how I view healthcare right now. The system as a whole is fundamentally broken, and costs as a whole could be reduced if we moved to some form of single payer system with government oversight. There's also significant benefits to small businesses if you're able to reduce the costs to providing healthcare to your employees, along with paying for your own insurance.

[Methais]

Bringing up my own misread of the voting public = clinging to identity politics? Cool meme though.

How is this not identify politics again?


Remember during the last election when I said the middle aged white misogynist vote wasn't enough to get Trump elected? Don't count those chickens just yet.

Please advise.

[Methais]

I don't think Archi was necessarily wrong. I'm pretty sure Trump got the white misogynist vote. He also got votes from lots of other people. Just like Hillary probably got the white misandry vote.

Stop being a white misogynist. You white misogynist.

[Parkbandit]

One of the main things that I saw as potential was running the government like a business, done in a methodical way it could be incredibly efficient in comparison to what we have today. Government contracts are notorious for waste, which is frustrating to me. Obviously some programs are going to be more expensive than others, but there's still ways to reduce costs. The reality has been the opposite where we've cut taxes and increased spending while also implementing trade wars that have added to the costs.

It's much like how I view healthcare right now. The system as a whole is fundamentally broken, and costs as a whole could be reduced if we moved to some form of single payer system with government oversight. There's also significant benefits to small businesses if you're able to reduce the costs to providing healthcare to your employees, along with paying for your own insurance.

Like I said before... it's like there are voices in your head, fighting for dominance.

I mean.. if you can't agree with yourself, chances are you won't find much agreement with anyone else.

[Alfster]

With government oversight isn't the same as government run programs.

The major costs with running the healthcare system right now are administration costs. Systems are outdated and unable to speak with each other. Cutting out the middle man cuts out billions in monthly costs to the system.

While I agree that government programs are not always efficient, it's still more efficient than our current system in place. We spend more than double any other on healthcare per person, yet we don't have better health outcomes. Single payer is cheaper as a whole, but would run the risk of a ton of people being out of work .

The other advantage is medical records being in a universal location. This is huge for fraud prevention and upcoding.

There's also multiple different payment options to choose from with the least efficient being the current norm - fee for service.

[Parkbandit]

With government oversight isn't the same as government run programs.

The major costs with running the healthcare system right now are administration costs. Systems are outdated and unable to speak with each other. Cutting out the middle man cuts out billions in monthly costs to the system.

While I agree that government programs are not always efficient, it's still more efficient than our current system in place. We spend more than double any other on healthcare per person, yet we don't have better health outcomes. Single payer is cheaper as a whole, but would run the risk of a ton of people being out of work .

The other advantage is medical records being in a universal location. This is huge for fraud prevention and upcoding.

There's also multiple different payment options to choose from with the least efficient being the current norm - fee for service.

Dude.

You honestly believe that government..... our US government.... will somehow lead to less waste, increased efficiency, less fraud and lower costs?

I'm honestly not sure what to say to you at this point.

[Methais]

It's much like how I view healthcare right now. The system as a whole is fundamentally broken, and costs as a whole could be reduced if we moved to some form of single payer system with government oversight.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/L8XuphFGqlSfe/source.gif

[Gelston]

I think everyone should do everything for free. We are all citizens of the world right? Plant a tree, hug a stranger!

[Archigeek]

How is this not identify politics again?



Please advise.

I presented a logical argument, suggesting that someone shouldn't "count their chickens before they hatch" and used my own 2 year old statement as an example. Logical arguments are the opposite of identity politics.

[Stumplicker]

I presented a logical argument, suggesting that someone shouldn't "count their chickens before they hatch" and used my own 2 year old statement as an example. Logical arguments are the opposite of identity politics.

Logical arguments are great and well received by the right audience, but you're playing chess with pigeons here. You can make all the sound, logical moves you want, but at the end of the day the pigeon's just gonna shit on the board and strut around like it won anyway.

[Gelston]

Logical arguments are great and well received by the right audience, but you're playing chess with pigeons here. You can make all the sound, logical moves you want, but at the end of the day the pigeon's just gonna shit on the board and strut around like it won anyway.

Little Ms Butthurt here

[Stumplicker]

Little Ms Butthurt here

Case in point. Any logical reasoning behind that comment? No? Just shitting on the board?

Save your time, Archigeek.

[Gelston]

Case in point. Any logical reasoning behind that comment? No? Just shitting on the board?

Save your time, Archigeek.

Butthurt confirmed.

[Methais]

I presented a logical argument, suggesting that someone shouldn't "count their chickens before they hatch" and used my own 2 year old statement as an example. Logical arguments are the opposite of identity politics.

Yeah because labeling Trump voters as misogynist white males is totally not identity politics. Exactly how many white misogynist votes did Trump receive that they were able to secure the election for him? You seem to be in the know.


Logical arguments are great and well received by the right audience, but you're playing chess with pigeons here. You can make all the sound, logical moves you want, but at the end of the day the pigeon's just gonna shit on the board and strut around like it won anyway.

Stop trying to sound intelligent. Nobody here buys that from you.

Reported to Gelston.

[Parkbandit]

Butthurt confirmed.

http://static1.squarespace.com/static/509b8e8be4b0592f67108b85/t/5d028d4782f30900014eb83f/1560448333753/confirmed.gif?format=1500w

[Tgo01]

Logical arguments are great and well received by the right audience, but you're playing chess with pigeons here. You can make all the sound, logical moves you want, but at the end of the day the pigeon's just gonna shit on the board and strut around like it won anyway.

Your sealion prowess is second only to Back.

[Tgo01]

An Asian man in NY was attacked by a group of teens because he was wearing a MAGA hat, and unlike Jussie Smollett's tiny little cut he claimed he received after being attacked by 2 Trump supporters this guy has a huge black eye and a red swollen eye.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EA6Bxk_WsAAGskK?format=jpg&name=medium

But tell me again about how the REAL violent people are Trump supporters. Trump supporters are so violent that people have to invent stories every day about how they were attacked by a Trump supporter.

[Parkbandit]

An Asian man in NY was attacked by a group of teens because he was wearing a MAGA hat, and unlike Jussie Smollett's tiny little cut he claimed he received after being attacked by 2 Trump supporters this guy has a huge black eye and a red swollen eye.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EA6Bxk_WsAAGskK?format=jpg&name=medium

But tell me again about how the REAL violent people are Trump supporters. Trump supporters are so violent that people have to invent stories every day about how they were attacked by a Trump supporter.

Hat ordered. I need to see this outrage for myself.

[Neveragain]

Hat ordered. I need to see this outrage for myself.

This must be a regional thing.

Earlier this summer I went to my grandsons baseball game and the ump was wearing a MAGA hat. Absolutely nobody said anything or acted upset by it. Of course we don't have the 15% of the population that commits 50% of the violent crimes here.

[Gelston]

Well yeah, the guy was in NY. Probably same shit in CA.

[Archigeek]

Yeah because labeling Trump voters as misogynist white males is totally not identity politics. Exactly how many white misogynist votes did Trump receive that they were able to secure the election for him? You seem to be in the know.

Come on man, I gave an example of someone, counting their chickens before they hatch. Used myself as the example, in an attempt to illustrate that we all scew up, and you're so fixated on the example that you can't see anything else? Why so fixated?

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Come on man, I gave an example of someone, counting their chickens before they hatch. Used myself as the example, in an attempt to illustrate that we all scew up, and you're so fixated on the example that you can't see anything else? Why so fixated?

I dunno about him, but my take on it was you were calling all Trump voters middle aged white misogynists.

[Parkbandit]

I dunno about him, but my take on it was you were calling all Trump voters middle aged white misogynists.

He's trying to say that in 2016 he THOUGHT all Trump voters were middle aged white misogynists... but now he knows that was misinformed.

In 2020, they will be all the middle aged white misogynists AND all the middle aged white supremacists.

Because Archigeek is an enlightened cis gender pale skinned black lesbian trans.

[Methais]

Come on man, I gave an example of someone, counting their chickens before they hatch. Used myself as the example, in an attempt to illustrate that we all scew up, and you're so fixated on the example that you can't see anything else? Why so fixated?

Because it was a really stupid fucking statement to make, and it should be called out for being a really stupid fucking statement to make.

You: "i UnDeReStImAtEd ThE pOwEr Of ThE WhItE mIsOgYnIsT mAlE vOtE iN 2016!!!!!!!"

Me: "That's a really fucking dumb thing to say."

You: "wHy ArE yOu So FiXaTed oN ThIs??????"


I dunno about him, but my take on it was you were calling all Trump voters middle aged white misogynists.

^

[Archigeek]

Whatever dudes. If you want to remain stuck on my underestimation of who all would vote for Trump in 2016, go ahead and keep on keepin on.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Whatever dudes. If you want to remain stuck on my underestimation of who all would vote for Trump in 2016, go ahead and keep on keepin on.

I call this being willfully obstinate.

I'm not a bigot. I'm not a misogynist. Your buying into the media's labeling of Trump supporters as racist/bigots/sexists is a myth. You WANT it to be true, but it isn't. People are just tired of identity politics that is the entire democratic party. Just keep on keepin on, with that bullshit.

I'm a rational person, that you can believe that's true is fucking unreal.

[Parkbandit]

Whatever dudes. If you want to remain stuck on my underestimation of who all would vote for Trump in 2016, go ahead and keep on keepin on.

What's it like to see the world through sexist and racist glasses?

You really should get a new prescription.

PROTIP: If you are grouping large swaths of the population via skin color or genitalia: You're a racist or a sexist or both.

[Parkbandit]

Remember during the last election when I said the middle aged white misogynist vote wasn't enough to get Trump elected? Don't count those chickens just yet.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b9/f7/2b/b9f72b3cba8f29a6acd449d16aabeb78.jpg

[Tgo01]

Now that the Democrats have exhausted all of their tax payer funded bribes they are getting down to other issues.

Up first! Kamala Harris says as president she is willing to sign executive orders to ban certain types of firearms and then send police officers to people's homes and confiscate said firearms.

She is more dangerous than ISIS at this point.

[Wrathbringer]

Now that the Democrats have exhausted all of their tax payer funded bribes they are getting down to other issues.

Up first! Kamala Harris says as president she is willing to sign executive orders to ban certain types of firearms and then send police officers to people's homes and confiscate said firearms.

She is more dangerous than ISIS at this point.

This is why pro 2nd amendment people were against gun registration. They were afraid that at some point it would be used as a confiscation list. Clearly, it will be at some point. It's just a matter of time. She's a huge retard. They all are. Fortunately, none of them stand a chance vs. Trump. In 2024 though? Expect gun rights to take a huge hit if the libtards win.

[Parkbandit]

This is why pro 2nd amendment people were against gun registration. They were afraid that at some point it would be used as a confiscation list. Clearly, it will be at some point. It's just a matter of time. She's a huge retard. They all are. Fortunately, none of them stand a chance vs. Trump. In 2024 though? Expect gun rights to take a huge hit if the libtards win.

I honestly used to think my father in law was one of those conspiracy theory people when he said I needed a gun that was "clean" with no registration or on anyone's list.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I honestly used to think my father in law was one of those conspiracy theory people when he said I needed a gun that was "clean" with no registration or on anyone's list.

Same. I inherited a bunch of firearms, none are considered "assault rifles" but I do value that they aren't in any system.

[Neveragain]

This is why pro 2nd amendment people were against gun registration. They were afraid that at some point it would be used as a confiscation list. Clearly, it will be at some point. It's just a matter of time. She's a huge retard. They all are. Fortunately, none of them stand a chance vs. Trump. In 2024 though? Expect gun rights to take a huge hit if the libtards win.

I think after 2 mass shootings in the past 24 hours Democrats are going to push for legislation now. They can use the current events as leverage to shame anyone that disagrees with them.

Sadly, the legislation will do nothing to fix the root causation of the problem and most likely will only increase the chances of future events. If it in any form involves raids to confiscate weapons it will be a huge fucking mess.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

If it in any form involves raids to confiscate weapons it will be a huge fucking mess.

Never happen. It'd be a uprising to the extreme if the government tried to come an confiscate weapons. Never happen in the U. S. of A.

[Gelston]

The most they'd do is offer buybacks and amnesty turn ins, and then confiscate as they are found.

The biggest issue is that ammo probably wouldn't be sold anymore.

[Neveragain]

Never happen. It'd be a uprising to the extreme if the government tried to come an confiscate weapons. Never happen in the U. S. of A.

We'll see.

[Gelston]

If they ever had gun confiscations, I am sure several Sheriffs Departments would refuse to participate.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

If they ever had gun confiscations, I am sure several Sheriffs Departments would refuse to participate.

And small town America would fucking riot. I have a whole family of rednecks that'd die before they gave up their firearms.

[Gelston]

And small town America would fucking riot. I have a whole family of rednecks that'd die before they gave up their firearms.

Which is exactly why they wouldn't do it. Not it most cases. They just wouldn't allow new ones to be sold, cut off ammo being sold, have buy backs and amnesty turn ins, and then confiscation as they are found, such as in traffic stops or what have you.

[Neveragain]

If there's one thing that's for certain, the media and the politicians aren't helping the situation.

Country is in meltdown mode and they don't want to talk about why.

[Gelston]

If there's one thing that's for certain, the media and the politicians aren't helping the situation.

Country is in meltdown mode and they don't want to talk about why.

Eh, they'll forget all about it next week.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Country is in meltdown mode and they don't want to talk about why.

Meltdown about what?

[Wrathbringer]

Never happen. It'd be a uprising to the extreme if the government tried to come an confiscate weapons. Never happen in the U. S. of A.

They did it in New Orleans after Katrina.

[~Rocktar~]

Welllllllllll


Big League Politics can report that Connor Betts, the alleged mass shooter who killed at least 9 people in an entertainment district of Dayton, Ohio earlier today was a registered Democrat who has voted in 7 previous elections, including two Democratic Primaries. Betts was killed during the altercation with police.

Fucker even killed his sister


Betts was a registered Democrat who, according to information made public by the state of Ohio, voted in two elections. He allegedly murdered 9 people, including his sister Megan Betts, earlier today in Dayton, Ohio.

https://thefederalistpapers.org/opinion/dayton-ohio-mass-shooter-democrat-socialist-loved-warren-sanders

[Gelston]

Welllllllllll



Fucker even killed his sister



https://thefederalistpapers.org/opinion/dayton-ohio-mass-shooter-democrat-socialist-loved-warren-sanders

He probably went there to kill his sister in the first place.

[Parkbandit]

He probably went there to kill his sister in the first place.

Yup. That's the first thing I thought.

[Parkbandit]

Welllllllllll

Fucker even killed his sister

https://thefederalistpapers.org/opinion/dayton-ohio-mass-shooter-democrat-socialist-loved-warren-sanders

Not sure what difference their political party is.

Crazy is on all sides.

[Tgo01]

cut off ammo being sold

That would quickly get shot down by SCOTUS. I bet even the liberal judges would shut that shit down.

[Tgo01]

Not sure what difference their political party is.

Normally it wouldn't matter at all. But Democrats have been hell bent on tying each and every publicized shooting to Trump, Republicans, and white supremacists.

[Gelston]

That would quickly get shot down by SCOTUS. I bet even the liberal judges would shut that shit down.

No, because for all this to happen, the 2nd Amendment was revoked.

[Tgo01]

No, because for all this to happen, the 2nd Amendment was revoked.

Well yeah, but that ain't gonna happen anytime soon. I thought we were talking about Kamala ISIS signing executive orders banning certain types of guns and then confiscating them.

[Gelston]

Well yeah, but that ain't gonna happen anytime soon. I thought we were talking about Kamala ISIS signing executive orders banning certain types of guns and then confiscating them.

Nah, mass gun confiscations would never happen with the 2nd Amendment there. They tried to make rifles illegal in a Illinois town, and fine people every day that they didn't turn theirs in. It went to court and got shot down.

[Parkbandit]

No, because for all this to happen, the 2nd Amendment was revoked.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/ba02ef1f0821326ad50eccaf90330d88/tenor.gif?itemid=9198223

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Meanwhile, in Chicago this weekend...7 Killed, 46 Wounded In Weekend Shootings
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/08/05/weekend-gun-violence-mass-shootings/

Not a peep about that on any lamestream media channels that I could see.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Meanwhile, in Baltimore this weekend...VIOLENT WEEKEND| 13 Shot, 6 Killed in Baltimore since Friday
https://foxbaltimore.com/news/local/violent-weekend-13-shot-6-killed-in-baltimore-since-friday

[Gelston]

Did you know a mass shooting is anytime 3 or more people are wounded by a firearm? No fatalities needed. Chicago is probably a big part of that 251 number people are tossing around.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Neil deGrasse Tyson getting raped for saying something rational.

"In the past 48hrs, the USA horrifically lost 34 people to mass shootings.

On average, across any 48hrs, we also lose…

500 to Medical errors
300 to the Flu
250 to Suicide
200 to Car Accidents
40 to Homicide via Handgun

Often our emotions respond more to spectacle than to data"

[Gelston]

Neil deGrasse Tyson getting raped for saying something rational.

"In the past 48hrs, the USA horrifically lost 34 people to mass shootings.

On average, across any 48hrs, we also lose…

500 to Medical errors
300 to the Flu
250 to Suicide
200 to Car Accidents
40 to Homicide via Handgun

Often our emotions respond more to spectacle than to data"

People keep saying he is "marginalizing" the victims... He is posting actual statistics though, as he is a scientist and that is what they do.

[Taernath]

It's some comically contextually unaware shit though.

"Only" 3000 people died in 9/11 afterall.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

It's some comically contextually unaware shit though.

"Only" 3000 people died in 9/11 afterall.

Because we aren't doing more about medical errors, flu, suicide and car accidents?

[Stumplicker]

Can you imagine if people on the whole reacted the same way about car safety, medical research, and suicide prevention as they do about stricter firearm regulations?

"SUICIDE IS A FUNDAMENTAL AMERICAN RIGHT! SUICIDE OUTREACH PROGRAMS AND HOTLINES ARE A SLIPPERY SLOPE TO THEM OUTLAWING IT ALTOGETHER!"

"MANDATORY SEATBELT LAWS ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND INFRINGE ON MY RIGHTS! WHAT'S NEXT? MANDATORY STOPPING AT RED LIGHTS? FORCING ME TO USE MY BLINKER?"

[Gelston]

Can you imagine if people on the whole reacted the same way about car safety, medical research, and suicide prevention as they do about stricter firearm regulations?

"SUICIDE IS A FUNDAMENTAL AMERICAN RIGHT! SUICIDE OUTREACH PROGRAMS AND HOTLINES ARE A SLIPPERY SLOPE TO THEM OUTLAWING IT ALTOGETHER!"

"MANDATORY SEATBELT LAWS ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND INFRINGE ON MY RIGHTS! WHAT'S NEXT? MANDATORY STOPPING AT RED LIGHTS? FORCING ME TO USE MY BLINKER?"

I mean, except the vast, vast majority of firearm owners never break any laws in regards to firearms. Keep being a fucking idiot though.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Can you imagine if people on the whole reacted the same way about car safety, medical research, and suicide prevention as they do about stricter firearm regulations?

"SUICIDE IS A FUNDAMENTAL AMERICAN RIGHT! SUICIDE OUTREACH PROGRAMS AND HOTLINES ARE A SLIPPERY SLOPE TO THEM OUTLAWING IT ALTOGETHER!"

"MANDATORY SEATBELT LAWS ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND INFRINGE ON MY RIGHTS! WHAT'S NEXT? MANDATORY STOPPING AT RED LIGHTS? FORCING ME TO USE MY BLINKER?"

I could, were there an amendment protecting those things.

[Gelston]

Also, I think seatbelt laws are fucking retarded too. If someone wants to be a fucking retard and not wear one, they shouldn't be required to.

[Stumplicker]

I mean, except the vast, vast majority of firearm owners never break any laws in regards to firearms. Keep being a fucking idiot though.

You mean outside of our enormous illegal gun trade and lack of upkeep/accountability for the few laws we already have in place? The primary argument against stricter firearm regulations in my opinion is that we have such an enormous illegal trade to begin with and far too much on the street to deal with. You have to tackle that problem before you start regulating away legitimate users.

[Gelston]

You mean outside of our enormous illegal gun trade and lack of upkeep/accountability for the few laws we already have in place? The primary argument against stricter firearm regulations in my opinion is that we have such an enormous illegal trade to begin with and far too much on the street to deal with. You have to tackle that problem before you start regulating away legitimate users.

.... Wtf are stricter gun laws going to do there? They are already illegal. Make them more illegal?

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

.... Wtf are stricter gun laws going to do there? They are already illegal. Make them more illegal?

Not to mention making the illegal more illegal will disproportionately affect more black and brown minority men that whitey.

[Stumplicker]

Also, I think seatbelt laws are fucking retarded too. If someone wants to be a fucking retard and not wear one, they shouldn't be required to.

EMTs, medical care, and hazardous waste cleanup are not free. You are not free to cost the state tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars to scrape your ass off the pavement. You're not free to raise everyone's insurance premiums with shitty driving to account for the fact that you aren't going to obey the laws. If what you were doing only affected you, I'd be inclined to agree, but it doesn't. In a vaccuum, sure do it up, but that's not where we live.

[Gelston]

EMTs, medical care, and hazardous waste cleanup are not free. You are not free to cost the state tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars to scrape your ass off the pavement. You're not free to raise everyone's insurance premiums with shitty driving to account for the fact that you aren't going to obey the laws. If what you were doing only affected you, I'd be inclined to agree, but it doesn't. In a vaccuum, sure do it up, but that's not where we live.

And that is why the person and/or his family will pay for it. Thanks for playing.

[Stumplicker]

.... Wtf are stricter gun laws going to do there? They are already illegal. Make them more illegal?

Let me bold the part you forgot to read.


You mean outside of our enormous illegal gun trade and lack of upkeep/accountability for the few laws we already have in place? The primary argument against stricter firearm regulations in my opinion is that we have such an enormous illegal trade to begin with and far too much on the street to deal with. You have to tackle that problem before you start regulating away legitimate users.

As stated already, they don't do anything until that particular problem is solved.

[Stumplicker]

And that is why the person and/or his family will pay for it. Thanks for playing.

That's not how that works. It is in theory for medical care, but that's the only aspect of that which is the case, and only in theory. Unless you count uninsured or underinsured persons, in which case that burden is largely shouldered by the state and one of the hot topics of the whole socialized healthcare debate.

[Neveragain]

You mean outside of our enormous illegal gun trade and lack of upkeep/accountability for the few laws we already have in place? The primary argument against stricter firearm regulations in my opinion is that we have such an enormous illegal trade to begin with and far too much on the street to deal with. You have to tackle that problem before you start regulating away legitimate users.

More gun laws would be like us taking away your keyboard to make you less retarded.

[Stumplicker]

More gun laws would be like us taking away your keyboard to make you less retarded.

Where exactly do you think I suggested more gun laws there? Quote it. I'll wait.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

You mean outside of our enormous illegal gun trade and lack of upkeep/accountability for the few laws we already have in place? The primary argument against stricter firearm regulations in my opinion is that we have such an enormous illegal trade to begin with and far too much on the street to deal with. You have to tackle that problem before you start regulating away legitimate users.

Can you expand on the "illegal trade" you keep referring too. What is it? Are you talking about loopholes, which aren't illegal, or do you mean something else?

[Gelston]

I don't think he knows what the world illegal means.

[Stumplicker]

Can you expand on the "illegal trade" you keep referring too. What is it? Are you talking about loopholes, which aren't illegal, or do you mean something else?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Pipeline

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smuggling_of_firearms_into_Mexico

I'm also talking about lack of accountability for current laws about things like background checks, waiting periods, et cetera. Last gun I bought I purchased it in ten minutes with nothing but a state ID. No background check. No mandatory three day waiting period. From a gun shop.

But yes, the "loopholes" where none of the requirements apply at things like gun shows are also a problem.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I don't think he knows what the world illegal means.

I also think he needs to revisit "few" when he refers to gun laws. Between conceal carry, open carry, ordinances, handgun crime vs. knife, armed robbery vs robbery, etc... all by city/state/local jurisdictions, there are a TON of laws on firearms.

[Stumplicker]

I also think he needs to revisit "few" when he refers to gun laws. Between conceal carry, open carry, ordinances, handgun crime vs. knife, armed robbery vs robbery, etc... all by city/state/local jurisdictions, there are a TON of laws on firearms.

That there are. Not all of them are enforced or held accountable. That's a problem, but I don't necessarily have any problem with the ones which are properly applied.

Edit to add: As an aside, I live in a state where concealed carry doesn't even require a permit, so anyone you run into could potentially have a gun on them, and they often do. Including me. It's also got a very low instance of violent crime in general, so guns themselves are far from the only issue. If a gang related killing happens in Los Angeles, it isn't the gun's fault, and even if it was, with the way supply currently stands, it'd be very difficult to regulate anything in a way that changes that.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

There are laws for the things you listed. My father owned a pawn shop and dealt in firearms predominantly. Believe me when I say there is significant paperwork, processing and accountability. He underwent audits on a near annual basis if I recall correctly. Gun laws aren't the problem. The problems you listed are really with people breaking the law.

There are also laws for gun shows, which vary greatly by state and local governments. It's easier for sure to buy/sell at gun shows, but most those folks buying/selling are federally licensed gun dealers. Again, not the problem people think it is - when was the last "mass shooting" where they traced the firearm back to a gun show? I can wait while you try and find one.

[Gelston]

There are laws for the things you listed. My father owned a pawn shop and dealt in firearms predominantly. Believe me when I say there is significant paperwork, processing and accountability. He underwent audits on a near annual basis if I recall correctly. Gun laws aren't the problem. The problems you listed are really with people breaking the law.

There are also laws for gun shows, which vary greatly by state and local governments. It's easier for sure to buy/sell at gun shows, but most those folks buying/selling are federally licensed gun dealers. Again, not the problem people think it is - when was the last "mass shooting" where they traced the firearm back to a gun show? I can wait while you try and find one.

Bought my last firearm from a pawnshop. Went through the same checks as if I'd bought it new from a regular store.

[Parkbandit]

Can you imagine if people on the whole reacted the same way about car safety, medical research, and suicide prevention as they do about stricter firearm regulations?

"SUICIDE IS A FUNDAMENTAL AMERICAN RIGHT! SUICIDE OUTREACH PROGRAMS AND HOTLINES ARE A SLIPPERY SLOPE TO THEM OUTLAWING IT ALTOGETHER!"

"MANDATORY SEATBELT LAWS ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND INFRINGE ON MY RIGHTS! WHAT'S NEXT? MANDATORY STOPPING AT RED LIGHTS? FORCING ME TO USE MY BLINKER?"

Suicides, seatbelts, redlights and turning signals aren't specifically written out as a protected right in the Constitution.

Can you imagine if you could actually present a well thought out argument that wasn't full of stupidity?

Neither can I.

[Stumplicker]

There are laws for the things you listed. My father owned a pawn shop and dealt in firearms predominantly. Believe me when I say there is significant paperwork, processing and accountability. He underwent audits on a near annual basis if I recall correctly. Gun laws aren't the problem. The problems you listed are really with people breaking the law.

There are also laws for gun shows, which vary greatly by state and local governments. It's easier for sure to buy/sell at gun shows, but most those folks buying/selling are federally licensed gun dealers. Again, not the problem people think it is - when was the last "mass shooting" where they traced the firearm back to a gun show? I can wait while you try and find one.

I know there are laws. That's how I knew to expect a mandated three day waiting period for a handgun when I went in to purchase one last. But those laws are selectively applied. I filled out the paperwork, signed on the line and had a gun in ten minutes.

I wouldn't know any statistics on how many mass shooting guns came from gun shows. I don't believe I mentioned anything about mass shootings.

And the key word for your gun show reference is "most". The ones who don't belong to "most" are the loophole sellers. You know it, I know it. It's not a big secret. "I'm not a dealer. These are my personal collection and I'm just selling them secondhand", et cetera.

Again, stricter gun control laws, if they were to be applied, are something that would only help if several other things were changed first and then given a whole heap of time to take effect, and I don't necessarily believe they address the root of any issue.

What I do believe is that federal standards should be adopted and applied as a baseline, consistently, and accountably, across all the states in a way that's more or less consistent with the majority of state laws. There's such a disaparity between states that could care less and states that care too much that whatever law you do see fit to put on the books does absolutely no good at all. And that's a problem. The laws that we do have should be able to be enforced, consistently, across the board.

[Parkbandit]

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[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

What I do believe is that federal standards should be adopted and applied as a baseline, consistently, and accountably, across all the states in a way that's more or less consistent with the majority of state laws. There's such a disaparity between states that could care less and states that care too much that whatever law you do see fit to put on the books does absolutely no good at all. And that's a problem. The laws that we do have should be able to be enforced, consistently, across the board.

Outside your anecdotal example, what makes you think federal laws aren't being enforced?

[Stumplicker]

Outside your anecdotal example, what makes you think federal laws aren't being enforced?

The fact that every argument for or against stricter gun control has to consider "except for in cases of loopholes".

It's the sovereign citizen movement as applied to guns. Gun laws apply except in cases when you say the magic combination of words that make them not apply. I don't have a problem with most of our current gun control laws. I have a problem with the fact that they're nearly impossible to enforce because they vary so wildly from state to state and town to town, and the fact that there are so very many loopholes that make them not apply.

[Gelston]

The fact that every argument for or against stricter gun control has to consider "except for in cases of loopholes".

It's the sovreign citizen movement as applied to guns. Gun laws apply except in cases when you say the magic combination of words that make them not apply.

You're retarded as fuck.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

The fact that every argument for or against stricter gun control has to consider "except for in cases of loopholes".

It's the sovreign citizen movement as applied to guns. Gun laws apply except in cases when you say the magic combination of words that make them not apply.

So, to summarize, it's a feeling you have. Gotcha.

[Stumplicker]

So, to summarize, it's a feeling you have. Gotcha.

No. It's a pretty well documented concept. You yourself mentioned loopholes in your very first response to me. It's not something unfamiliar to you.


Can you expand on the "illegal trade" you keep referring too. What is it? Are you talking about loopholes, which aren't illegal, or do you mean something else?

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Military personnel may own full auto weapons. Loophole?

[Stumplicker]

Military personnel may own full auto weapons. Loophole?

I can own a full auto weapon too, so long as it was manufactured before 1986. Or any gun in existence so long as it was made before I believe 1898.

And yes, in the right circumstances, those are loopholes. I'm not suggesting somebody is going to come rolling into a nightclub with a civil war gatling gun and open fire, and if they did it would be pretty damn stupid, but years of inconsistent gun regulations have provided a number of loopholes to circumvent laws on the books.

It should be harder to circumvent the laws that exist from state to state. It's really not that hard to do at present, and I'm not sure why you think that's such an awful standpoint to take.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I can own a full auto weapon too, so long as it was manufactured before 1986. Or any gun in existence so long as it was made before I believe 1898.

And yes, in the right circumstances, those are loopholes. I'm not suggesting somebody is going to come rolling into a nightclub with a civil war gatling gun and open fire, and if they did it would be pretty damn stupid, but years of inconsistent gun regulations have provided a number of loopholes to circumvent laws on the books.

It should be harder to circumvent the laws that exist from state to state. It's really not that hard to do at present, and I'm not sure why you think that's such an awful standpoint to take.

I've never stated my stance actually. I just like facts and statistics. You throw around non-specific words like few and easy like you are stating fact, when in reality you are stating you feelings, and you are trying to state mine for me.

[Gelston]

I can own a full auto weapon too, so long as it was manufactured before 1986. Or any gun in existence so long as it was made before I believe 1898.

And yes, in the right circumstances, those are loopholes. I'm not suggesting somebody is going to come rolling into a nightclub with a civil war gatling gun and open fire, and if they did it would be pretty damn stupid, but years of inconsistent gun regulations have provided a number of loopholes to circumvent laws on the books.

It should be harder to circumvent the laws that exist from state to state. It's really not that hard to do at present, and I'm not sure why you think that's such an awful standpoint to take.

You realize the laws that are from "state to state" are on TOP of Federal laws right? Federal laws set the baselines, states may add to, but do not take away from. Stop being an idiot.

[Methais]

Can you imagine if people on the whole reacted the same way about car safety, medical research, and suicide prevention as they do about stricter firearm regulations?

"SUICIDE IS A FUNDAMENTAL AMERICAN RIGHT! SUICIDE OUTREACH PROGRAMS AND HOTLINES ARE A SLIPPERY SLOPE TO THEM OUTLAWING IT ALTOGETHER!"

What are you going to do to punish someone who commits suicide though?

[Gelston]

What are you going to do to punish someone who commits suicide though?

It is illegal in some places in the world. Mostly middle east and Islamic Africa.

[Methais]

I'm also talking about lack of accountability for current laws about things like background checks, waiting periods, et cetera. Last gun I bought I purchased it in ten minutes with nothing but a state ID. No background check. No mandatory three day waiting period. From a gun shop.

But yes, the "loopholes" where none of the requirements apply at things like gun shows are also a problem.

How many people did you run out and murder with it after you spent 10 minutes buying it?

[Gelston]

How many people did you run out and murder with it after you spent 10 minutes buying it?

I'm wondering what other ID he thinks you'd need to purchase a firearm.

[Methais]

It is illegal in some places in the world. Mostly middle east and Islamic Africa.

What are they going to do though? Make them more dead as punishment?

[Methais]

No worse, make them play a wizard in Gemstone.

Dead people can't play GS.

And if they could, at least they don't have to play a monk.

[Tgo01]

Is Stumplicker arguing just for the sake of arguing? He doesn't appear to have any point or consistency in his arguments.

[Parkbandit]

Is Stumplicker arguing just for the sake of arguing? He doesn't appear to have any point or consistency in his arguments.

Rule #1: Stumplicker/Wesley LOVES to hear himself talk.. and it never has to make sense.
Rule #2: See Rule #1

[Tgo01]

It's increasingly looking like it will be between Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren.

Joe Biden makes sense, but how the hell did someone who lied about being a Native American for decades to further her career, then take a laughable DNA test to prove she has less Native American blood in her than 90% of whites living in the US, ever get to the point of coming close to being the Democrat nominee?

Democrats don't just have zero shame these days, they have negative shame.

[Gelston]

Gillibrand is out.

[Tgo01]

Gillibrand is out.

Seems rather sudden. I wonder if they are all going to start dropping like flies now.

[Gelston]

Seems rather sudden. I wonder if they are all going to start dropping like flies now.

They'll probably begin jockeying for VP and cabinet positions.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Didn't only 10 of the 20 currently running make the debate stage in September? All those pieces of shit need to get back to work instead of campaigning.

[Gelston]

Didn't only 10 of the 20 currently running make the debate stage in September? All those pieces of shit need to get back to work instead of campaigning.

They cherrypicked polls to exclude Tulsi Gabbard, according to her anyways.

[Methais]

They cherrypicked polls to exclude Tulsi Gabbard, according to her anyways.

She's the only one running who I can fap to.

How am I going to watch the debates now?

[Parkbandit]

Seems rather sudden. I wonder if they are all going to start dropping like flies now.

She was giving away free $30 tee shirts for a $1 donation in an attempt to get on stage.

Like all socialists.. she ran out of money...

[Tgo01]

She was giving away free $30 tee shirts for a $1 donation in an attempt to get on stage.

Like all socialists.. she ran out of money...

That's hilarious.

[Gelston]

"$30" t-shirts that are really $2 T-shirts that she still sold at a loss for $1.

[Methais]

She was giving away free $30 tee shirts for a $1 donation in an attempt to get on stage.

Like all socialists.. she ran out of money...

What was she expecting to happen though? That's where the punchline is.

[Methais]

Biden Tells Poignant Story About His Encounter With Navy Captain. It Never Happened. (https://www.dailywire.com/news/51203/biden-tells-poignant-story-about-his-encounter-hank-berrien)

[Tgo01]

Biden Tells Poignant Story About His Encounter With Navy Captain. It Never Happened. (https://www.dailywire.com/news/51203/biden-tells-poignant-story-about-his-encounter-hank-berrien)

No wonder Obama has refused to endorse Biden. He was probably already showing signs of dementia while VP and they tried to keep it under wraps.

[Parkbandit]

Biden Tells Poignant Story About His Encounter With Navy Captain. It Never Happened. (https://www.dailywire.com/news/51203/biden-tells-poignant-story-about-his-encounter-hank-berrien)

If he was the chosen one of the DNC, this story would never have been written... which leads me to believe they really believe Warren can win, which makes me laugh.

[Tgo01]

If you thought we were done with Democrat taxpayer funded bribes you were WRONG!

Up next: Bernie Sanders promising to "forgive" everyone's current medical bills.

After that we have Elizabeth Warren promising 3 trillion dollars to "fight climate change."

[Tgo01]

I'm just curious what all of those pro-gun rights Democrats think about the current crop of Democrats heavily pushing for outlawing certain guns, ammo, and instituting a confiscation program?

I know we had a few like that and I remember a couple even saying they would never support a Democrat who engaged in this type of behavior. Is hating Trump more important than your second amendment rights now?

It's not like the Democrats are even trying to obfuscate their true intentions anymore, it's openly part of their campaign pitch now.

[Parkbandit]

I'm just curious what all of those pro-gun rights Democrats think about the current crop of Democrats heavily pushing for outlawing certain guns, ammo, and instituting a confiscation program?

I know we had a few like that and I remember a couple even saying they would never support a Democrat who engaged in this type of behavior. Is hating Trump more important than your second amendment rights now?

It's not like the Democrats are even trying to obfuscate their true intentions anymore, it's openly part of their campaign pitch now.

I think it's finally refreshing that the Democrats are getting closer to telling the truth in this campaign than they have in the past.

"Socialism!? No way, we're Progressives! That is entirely different!"

"Against the 2nd Amendment!? NO WAY! We just want to have tighter gun control for your protection!"

[Gelston]

Geaux Tigers!

[ClydeR]

https://i.imgur.com/BLB3yPN.png
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019/09/11/andrew-yangs-campaign-promises-hell-do-something-unprecedented-at-tomorrows-dem-debate-place-your-bets/




Something nobody has ever done before. And it will be in the opening. I hope it's not something that will demean the office of the President.

And he said that yesterday. Debate is tonight.

[Gelston]

https://i.imgur.com/BLB3yPN.png
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019/09/11/andrew-yangs-campaign-promises-hell-do-something-unprecedented-at-tomorrows-dem-debate-place-your-bets/




Something nobody has ever done before. And it will be in the opening. I hope it's not something that will demean the office of the President.

And he said that yesterday. Debate is tonight.

You have the HIV.

[Methais]

I drink jizz directly from any dick I can get my mouth around.

This is correct.

[ClydeR]

Yang is in this video. The surprise might be some of his ninja moves.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbrPE4xWg70
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbrPE4xWg70

[Methais]

Yang is in this video. The surprise might be some of his ninja moves.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbrPE4xWg70
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbrPE4xWg70

Despite him being Asian, that's the worst bottle cap roundhouse I've seen so far. He just roundhoused the jug and the cap fell off from that. You're supposed to only hit the cap.

Being caucasian myself, I am disappointed in his skills and he should apologize to the Asian community, and possibly even the whole world.

And you're racist for assuming that someone of Taiwan descent can even be a ninja. Ninjas are Japanese.

Racist.

Reported.

Backtraced.

https://static.fjcdn.com/large/pictures/e6/fc/e6fc3f_841515.jpg

[ClydeR]

Or he might crowd surf onto the stage.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUU-OwQHa7Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUU-OwQHa7Y

[Gelston]

Or he might crowd surf onto the stage.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUU-OwQHa7Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUU-OwQHa7Y

He might say shut up fallen.

[Methais]

Or he might crowd surf onto the stage.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUU-OwQHa7Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUU-OwQHa7Y

Speaking of surfing, here's an old picture of me and my grandpa. He always told me to call him Grandpa Boner when I'd sit on his lap, but I never understood why. He stopped being nice to me after this picture was taken.

https://starecat.com/content/wp-content/uploads/thats-a-stupid-shirt-you-dont-surf-youve-never-surfed-lying-little-shit.jpg

This is correct.

[Tgo01]

Marianne Williamson:

"What does it say that the conservatives are nicer to me? I’m a serious lefty but they are so, I understand why people on the right called them godless, I mean, it’s like, I didn’t think the left was as mean as the right, they are."

Pretty sad day when the left is "too mean" for the hippy who's campaign slogan was "We will win with love."

[Methais]

Marianne Williamson:

"What does it say that the conservatives are nicer to me? I’m a serious lefty but they are so, I understand why people on the right called them godless, I mean, it’s like, I didn’t think the left was as mean as the right, they are."

Pretty sad day when the left is "too mean" for the hippy who's campaign slogan was "We will win with love."

Maybe her and Tulsi will get red pilled during the debate and then start scissoring.

Are either of them supposed to be at the debate tonight? Are there still 2 separate debates happening? I haven't paid attention to shit except for Tulsi's buttcheeks.

[Tgo01]

Maybe her and Tulsi will get red pilled during the debate and then start scissoring.

Are either of them supposed to be at the debate tonight? Are there still 2 separate debates happening? I haven't paid attention to shit except for Tulsi's buttcheeks.

To my knowledge neither of them qualify for the debate and there will only be 1 debate of 10 candidates, almost all of which are lesser known than Tulsi and and Williamson.

[Methais]

To my knowledge neither of them qualify for the debate and there will only be 1 debate of 10 candidates, almost all of which are lesser known than Tulsi and and Williamson.

What channel will they be scissoring on?

[Tgo01]

I thought this was just a joke but having now seen the video it's true: Yang promised 10 people who were watching the debates that he would give them 1000 "freedom dollars" a month for a year. He actually said this DURING THE DEBATE.

Talk about literally bribing people for votes. I'll give him credit though, at least it's apparently his own money (or maybe his donors' money) instead of taxpayer money.

[Methais]

I thought this was just a joke but having now seen the video it's true: Yang promised 10 people who were watching the debates that he would give them 1000 "freedom dollars" a month for a year. He actually said this DURING THE DEBATE.

Talk about literally bribing people for votes. I'll give him credit though, at least it's apparently his own money (or maybe his donors' money) instead of taxpayer money.

Let's not forget this is the same debate where one of those retards (forgot who, probably the same guy) said Trump was running the country like a game show.

I'm really looking forward to the left's post 2020 election meltdown.

[Tgo01]

The Democrat taxpayer funded bribes are really ramping up now!

Biden wants to give everyone who has "childcare costs" (so I guess everyone with a child?) an 8,000 dollar tax credit. He claims this will put 720 million women back in the workforce (because I guess only women have childcare costs?)

So let's see, 8000 times 720 million comes to...almost 6 trillion dollars a year.

Biden wants to bankrupt the country faster than Bernie and Warren put together.

[Gelston]

The Democrat taxpayer funded bribes are really ramping up now!

Biden wants to give everyone who has "childcare costs" (so I guess everyone with a child?) an 8,000 dollar tax credit. He claims this will put 720 million women back in the workforce (because I guess only women have childcare costs?)

So let's see, 8000 times 720 million comes to...almost 6 trillion dollars a year.

Biden wants to bankrupt the country faster than Bernie and Warren put together.

We don't have 720 million people in the country.

[Tgo01]

We don't have 720 million people in the country.

Lies! Biden is never wrong!

I'm sure Biden is including all of the illegal aliens he wants to flood the country.

[Astray]

Biden, once holding incredible meme status, now appears to suffer from severe brain damage. RIP.

No but really, is he okay?

[Parkbandit]

Lies! Biden is never wrong!

I'm sure Biden is including all of the illegal aliens he wants to flood the country.

Dems are used to counting dead people to vote for them.. maybe he's adding them?

[Methais]

Dems are used to counting dead people to vote for them.. maybe he's adding them?

He's probably including each of their various multiple personalities as its own separate person.

[Tgo01]

Warren is claiming she was fired from her "dream job" as a teacher for special ed students because she was "visibly pregnant", not only in an attempt to claim victim status but to also show the patriarchy at work since the principal who supposedly fired her was a man. Oh also to show how wonderful she is that her "dream job" was to teach special ed kids.

Unfortunately for her records and her own words show what a lying sack of shit she is.

A few years ago she said she looked at the requirements to get a teaching certificate and decided that wasn't something she wanted to do. So much for teaching special ed kids being a "dream job"!

Not only that but county records show that the board voted UNANIMOUSLY to renew her contract, so there wasn't even one misogynist man who wanted to maintain his grip on the patriarchy who voted against her.

But wait, there's more!

The records also show that Warren tendered her resignation a few months later!

So not only is she a lying sack of shit trying to claim victim status, but every man along the way apparently supported her, but she decided to quit her job, become a stay at home mom for a couple of years, then decided "You know what's better than teaching special ed kids? Lying about being a Native American so I can land a cushy job at Harvard making half a mil a year!"

But remember; Orange Man bad so none of this matters.

[Methais]

Warren is claiming she was fired from her "dream job" as a teacher for special ed students because she was "visibly pregnant", not only in an attempt to claim victim status but to also show the patriarchy at work since the principal who supposedly fired her was a man. Oh also to show how wonderful she is that her "dream job" was to teach special ed kids.

Unfortunately for her records and her own words show what a lying sack of shit she is.

A few years ago she said she looked at the requirements to get a teaching certificate and decided that wasn't something she wanted to do. So much for teaching special ed kids being a "dream job"!

Not only that but county records show that the board voted UNANIMOUSLY to renew her contract, so there wasn't even one misogynist man who wanted to maintain his grip on the patriarchy who voted against her.

But wait, there's more!

The records also show that Warren tendered her resignation a few months later!

So not only is she a lying sack of shit trying to claim victim status, but every man along the way apparently supported her, but she decided to quit her job, become a stay at home mom for a couple of years, then decided "You know what's better than teaching special ed kids? Lying about being a Native American so I can land a cushy job at Harvard making half a mil a year!"

But remember; Orange Man bad so none of this matters.

https://freebeacon.com/politics/county-records-contradict-warrens-claim-she-was-fired-over-pregnancy/

[Neveragain]

Warren is claiming she was fired from her "dream job" as a teacher for special ed students because she was "visibly pregnant", not only in an attempt to claim victim status but to also show the patriarchy at work since the principal who supposedly fired her was a man. Oh also to show how wonderful she is that her "dream job" was to teach special ed kids.

Unfortunately for her records and her own words show what a lying sack of shit she is.

A few years ago she said she looked at the requirements to get a teaching certificate and decided that wasn't something she wanted to do. So much for teaching special ed kids being a "dream job"!

Not only that but county records show that the board voted UNANIMOUSLY to renew her contract, so there wasn't even one misogynist man who wanted to maintain his grip on the patriarchy who voted against her.

But wait, there's more!

The records also show that Warren tendered her resignation a few months later!

So not only is she a lying sack of shit trying to claim victim status, but every man along the way apparently supported her, but she decided to quit her job, become a stay at home mom for a couple of years, then decided "You know what's better than teaching special ed kids? Lying about being a Native American so I can land a cushy job at Harvard making half a mil a year!"

But remember; Orange Man bad so none of this matters.

Warren is the fat chic that accuses people of undressing her with their eyes.

[Methais]

Warren is the fat chic that accuses people of undressing her with their eyes.

https://scontent.fbtr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/72085288_2519460998271800_3974016145295409152_n.jp g?_nc_cat=1&_nc_oc=AQmz619UjKHH2lNfqoBgpotqAI_ig0HogoP8KkKJBt0 xvqK_EzhVrkki8fIMsaiXnMA&_nc_ht=scontent.fbtr1-1.fna&oh=caa214cc83215cfd93d78c9ea5c56cb5&oe=5E3B4B87

[Methais]

Apparently she's doubling down on it...

Warren Responds to Proof She Repeatedly Lied About ‘Sexist’ Boss: He Totally Sort of Fired Me (https://pluralist.com/warren-doubles-down-on-firing-claim-even-after-documents-show-she-resigned/49999)


2020 presidential candidate Sen. Elizabeth Warren doubled down on her claims that she was fired from a teaching job for being pregnant Monday.

The Massachusetts senator said Monday in an exclusive interview with CBS News that she stands by her previous statements that she was pushed out for being pregnant.

All I know is I was 22 years old, I was 6 months pregnant, and the job that I had been promised for the next year was going to someone else. The principal said they were going to hire someone else for my job,” Warren told CBS.

“When someone calls you in and says the job that you’ve been hired for for the next year is no longer yours, ‘We’re giving it to someone else,’ I think that’s being shown the door,” Warren added.

Warren has repeatedly said on the campaign trail that she was let go from her teaching job because she was “visibly pregnant.”

However, Warren recounted the same story in 2007 but said she did not have the proper credentials to continue teaching at the time.

“I did that for a year, and then that summer I didn’t have the education courses, so I was on an ’emergency certificate,’ it was called. I went back to graduate school and took a couple of courses in education and said, ‘I don’t think this is going to work out for me,’” she said in a 2007 interview at the University of California, Berkeley.

Documents also show that Warren resigned from her job. The Riverdale Board of Education in New Jersey extended Warren’s teaching contract for another year in April 1971, according to meeting minutes the Washington Free Beacon obtained. The board accepted Warren’s resignation “with regret,” June 1971 records indicate.

“After becoming a public figure I opened up more about different pieces in my life and this was one of them. I wrote about it in my book when I became a U.S. Senator,” the Warren campaign told CBS in a statement, in attempts to explain why her stories differ.

:lol:

[Tgo01]

Who would have thought someone who lied about being a Native American for decades to further her career would lie about being discriminated against to further her career? At least she didn’t claim she was shown the door for being “visibly red skinned.”

[Methais]

Who would have thought someone who lied about being a Native American for decades to further her career would lie about being discriminated against to further her career? At least she didn’t claim she was shown the door for being “visibly red skinned.”

Just wait until the primaries are over and she shows up all lobster sunburnt and claims that that's her natural Native-American skin color and that it's always been like that.

Back will believe her.

[Tgo01]

Just wait until the primaries are over and she shows up all lobster sunburnt and claims that that's her natural Native-American skin color and that it's always been like that.

Back will believe her.

If she shows up drunk with a beer in her hand to really push that narrative then I will actually vote for her.

"Free firewater for all who vote for me!"

[Tgo01]

Elizabeth Warren has now called for "weapons of war" and certain ammo to be confiscated from law abiding citizens.

I know we have a few left leaning gun nuts on the forum, how are you okay with this?

[Astray]

Elizabeth Warren has now called for "weapons of war" and certain ammo to be confiscated from law abiding citizens.

I know we have a few left leaning gun nuts on the forum, how are you okay with this?

Certain ammo meaning... hollow points?

[Tgo01]

Certain ammo meaning... hollow points?

She didn't clarify from the video I saw, she just mentioned something about certain ammo.

[Astray]

She didn't clarify from the video I saw, she just mentioned something about certain ammo.

So expect to see some ammo prices get nuts in 2020. I should really suck it up and buy some bullet molds. Then learn how to make those bullets.

[Tgo01]

So expect to see some ammo prices get nuts in 2020. I should really suck it up and buy some bullet molds. Then learn how to make those bullets.

I'm sure making bullets will be outlawed soon.

[Tgo01]

A few months ago Democrats and even some Democrat candidates said we were headed for a recession because the DOW was going down a bit, and of course they blamed Trump and said his bad policies were to blame.

The S&P just hit an all time high. I guess we are back to this being Obama's economy again?

[Methais]

A few months ago Democrats and even some Democrat candidates said we were headed for a recession because the DOW was going down a bit, and of course they blamed Trump and said his bad policies were to blame.

The S&P just hit an all time high. I guess we are back to this being Obama's economy again?

https://media.giphy.com/media/nsaJl9dpgf6nK/giphy.gif

[Candor]

A few months ago Democrats and even some Democrat candidates said we were headed for a recession because the DOW was going down a bit, and of course they blamed Trump and said his bad policies were to blame.

The S&P just hit an all time high. I guess we are back to this being Obama's economy again?

Yes.

[Gelston]

Certain ammo meaning... hollow points?

That'd be funny, since Hollow Points aren't used in war at all and are probably safer for police, seeing as they won't penetrate body armor. They are deadlier for people without it though.