Rising right wing violence

[Androidpk]

You think NZ just implemented "improved background checks." I knew you were dumb, but hot damn!

Where did I say that? Seriously, stop being such an unhinged moron. :lol2:

What I said - Maybe someday Congress will realize "thoughts and prayers" aren't actually working.

What tgo read - OMG WE NEED TO BAN ALL GUNS IMMEDIATELY AND ARREST PEOPLE WHO OWN THEM BUT ONLY ARREST REPUBLICANS BECAUSE WITCH HUNT!!!!111

[Methais]

Again, nowhere on the website you reference does it contain murders by iranians. Therefore, your statement is 100% inaccurate without proof. You can't provide it because it does not exist on the hate crimes website. This is irrefutable.

In before "something something toxic white supremacist troll"

[Methais]

Considering I own semi-automatic rifles you won't see me ever agreeing with a full on ban. Nice try, troll. Now improved background checks, I'm all for that.

What if said improved background checks realized what a mentally unstable sack of shit you are and were like NO GUNS 4 U FGT!!! ?

[Tgo01]

Where did I say that? Seriously, stop being such an unhinged moron. :lol2:

What I said - Maybe someday Congress will realize "thoughts and prayers" aren't actually working.

What tgo read - OMG WE NEED TO BAN ALL GUNS IMMEDIATELY AND ARREST PEOPLE WHO OWN THEM BUT ONLY ARREST REPUBLICANS BECAUSE WITCH HUNT!!!!111

You said that in response to NZ banning semiautomatic weapons. Are you currently having a stroke?

[Androidpk]

You said that in response to NZ banning semiautomatic weapons. Are you currently having a stroke?

Yes, I know. That is NZ actually doing something to address the problem instead of sending thoughts and prayers. That's not me saying I agree with a full semi-auto ban. I know you get off by acting like a full on retard but seriously, it's time to stop.

[Androidpk]

tgo: "we need to stop giving androidpk attention!"

also tgo: furiously responding to every androidpk post!

[Methais]

Me: "You guys need to stop being so mean to me!"

also me: furiously posts massively retarded shit 24/7 and labels everyone who disagrees with me a white supremacist

This is correct.

[Parkbandit]

tgo: "we need to stop giving androidpk attention!"

also tgo: furiously responding to every androidpk post!

OH OH! tgo01 IS NOW OBSESSED WITH ANDROIDPK!!!

What a joke.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/1e9f005335ce99e131768e9167ad1b75/tenor.gif?itemid=5517750

[Androidpk]

MAGABomber Pleads Guilty to Sending Explosives by Mail to Trump Critics

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/magabomber-pleads-guilty-to-sending-explosives-in-the-mail-to-trump-critics/

[Astray]

Did anyone think he was going to plead anything but guilty?

[Taernath]

Did anyone think he was going to plead anything but guilty?

He pled not guilty earlier.

[Astray]

He pled not guilty earlier.

That's fucking dumb. What a fag.

[Methais]

That's fucking dumb. What a fag.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f77PLFRP3Ok

[Androidpk]

An online threat of violence shuts down all Charlottesville schools

Public school campuses in Charlottesville will be shuttered Friday for a second straight day — and more than 4,300 students will be kept out of classrooms — after a threat of racial violence surfaced online.

In a message to families, Rosa Atkins, superintendent of Charlottesville City Schools, said an investigation involving state and federal authorities remains active, necessitating the unusual step of keeping schools closed.

“We would like to acknowledge and condemn the fact that this threat was racially charged. We do not tolerate hate or racism,” Atkins said.

“The entire staff and School Board stand in solidarity with our students of color — and with people who have been singled out for reasons such as religion or ethnicity or sexual identity in other vile threats made across the country or around the world. We are in this together, and a threat against one is a threat against all.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/an-online-threat-of-violence-shuts-down-all-charlottesville-schools/2019/03/21/9a94e124-4c02-11e9-9663-00ac73f49662_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.52af81afe9bc

Very fine people indeed...

[Methais]

An online threat of violence shuts down all Charlottesville schools

Public school campuses in Charlottesville will be shuttered Friday for a second straight day — and more than 4,300 students will be kept out of classrooms — after a threat of racial violence surfaced online.

In a message to families, Rosa Atkins, superintendent of Charlottesville City Schools, said an investigation involving state and federal authorities remains active, necessitating the unusual step of keeping schools closed.

“We would like to acknowledge and condemn the fact that this threat was racially charged. We do not tolerate hate or racism,” Atkins said.

“The entire staff and School Board stand in solidarity with our students of color — and with people who have been singled out for reasons such as religion or ethnicity or sexual identity in other vile threats made across the country or around the world. We are in this together, and a threat against one is a threat against all.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/an-online-threat-of-violence-shuts-down-all-charlottesville-schools/2019/03/21/9a94e124-4c02-11e9-9663-00ac73f49662_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.52af81afe9bc

Very fine people indeed...

In before it turns out that one of the "victims" was behind it.

[Tgo01]

A priest was stabbed in a church in Canada today while the whole thing was being livestreamed.

Police have so far been silent on the attacker's ethnicity, name, religion, and possible motive so of course this leads us to the logical conclusion that this is yet another white supremacist attack. Because the media these days are totally downplaying those attacks. Yup. Nothing to see here.

[Androidpk]

An attorney for the Staten Island man accused of killing a reputed Gambino mob boss says the 24-year-old suspect was influenced by far-right internet rhetoric and radicalized by the QAnon conspiracy theory and President Donald Trump. Anthony Comello appeared in a St. George criminal court Monday and was arraigned on charges including murder, assault, and criminal possession of a weapon in connection with the March 13 shooting death of Francesco “Frankie Boy” Cali outside his home. While his client did not plead guilty to the crime, lawyer Robert Gottlieb cited “other right-wing conspiracy websites, hate words that have been spewed by citizens, including politicians, including right at the White House.” In court, Comello displayed handwritten pro-Trump slogans on his palm, including the phrases “MAGA Forever,” “Make America Great Again,” and “Patriots in Charge.”

[Methais]

An attorney for the Staten Island man accused of killing a reputed Gambino mob boss says the 24-year-old suspect was influenced by far-right internet rhetoric and radicalized by the QAnon conspiracy theory and President Donald Trump. Anthony Comello appeared in a St. George criminal court Monday and was arraigned on charges including murder, assault, and criminal possession of a weapon in connection with the March 13 shooting death of Francesco “Frankie Boy” Cali outside his home. While his client did not plead guilty to the crime, lawyer Robert Gottlieb cited “other right-wing conspiracy websites, hate words that have been spewed by citizens, including politicians, including right at the White House.” In court, Comello displayed handwritten pro-Trump slogans on his palm, including the phrases “MAGA Forever,” “Make America Great Again,” and “Patriots in Charge.”

I see no problem as the Patriots are in charge.

https://i.imgur.com/jEg3n1Q.png

[Gelston]

So Donald Trump is causing people to kill mafia dons now huh?

[Methais]

So Donald Trump is causing people to kill mafia dons now huh?

A real president would cause people to run up on random old people and knock them out in one punch.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

An attorney for the Staten Island man accused of killing a reputed Gambino mob boss says the 24-year-old suspect was influenced by far-right internet rhetoric and radicalized by the QAnon conspiracy theory and President Donald Trump. Anthony Comello appeared in a St. George criminal court Monday and was arraigned on charges including murder, assault, and criminal possession of a weapon in connection with the March 13 shooting death of Francesco “Frankie Boy” Cali outside his home. While his client did not plead guilty to the crime, lawyer Robert Gottlieb cited “other right-wing conspiracy websites, hate words that have been spewed by citizens, including politicians, including right at the White House.” In court, Comello displayed handwritten pro-Trump slogans on his palm, including the phrases “MAGA Forever,” “Make America Great Again,” and “Patriots in Charge.”

Completely serious question for you - do you really consider this news? Where is it even from?

[Ashlander]

Completely serious question for you - do you really consider this news? Where is it even from?

He quit posting links when people started making fun of his "sources"

[Parkbandit]

Completely serious question for you - do you really consider this news? Where is it even from?

I'm guessing some far leftist site like motherjones.com or dailybeast.com or huffingtonpost.com

It's where the dumbest people get their daily "mind" control instructions every day.

[Androidpk]

Completely serious question for you - do you really consider this news? Where is it even from?

Do I consider it news that another murderer has once again linked Trump to his reason for killing someone? Yes.

[Parkbandit]

Do I consider it news that another murderer has once again linked Trump to his reason for killing someone? Yes.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/a8af8d05f7dca16001bb2a92f282e77d/tenor.gif?itemid=4850375

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I'm a pretty moderate conservative. I.e. I like my news from Fox but I honestly do listen to and read NPR, Wall Street Journal and Reuters. You gotta balance shit out, or frankly the google analytics feeds will only reinforce ill informed sources with more ill informed sources. Respectfully, I'd suggest the majority of American's who really think about shit, in face to face conversations, agree on most things.

We gotta stop thinking of team sports (my team rules, your team sucks) and start working towards the middle. If we don't expect Trump, or the liberal alternative to Trump, going forward. That isn't something I look forward too, I'd rather rational people worked together.

[Methais]

I'm guessing some far leftist site like motherjones.com or dailybeast.com or huffingtonpost.com

It's where the dumbest people get their daily "mind" control instructions every day.

By golly

https://www.thedailybeast.com/anthony-comello-gambino-mob-boss-shooting-suspect-radicalized-by-qanon-far-right-sites-even-trump-lawyer-says


Gambino Mob Boss Shooting Suspect Was ‘Radicalized’ by QAnon, Far Right, Even Trump, Lawyer Says (https://www.thedailybeast.com/anthony-comello-gambino-mob-boss-shooting-suspect-radicalized-by-qanon-far-right-sites-even-trump-lawyer-says)

An attorney for the Staten Island man accused of killing a reputed Gambino mob boss says the 24-year-old suspect was influenced by far-right internet rhetoric and radicalized by the QAnon conspiracy theory and President Donald Trump. Anthony Comello appeared in a St. George criminal court Monday and was arraigned on charges including murder, assault, and criminal possession of a weapon in connection with the March 13 shooting death of Francesco “Frankie Boy” Cali outside his home. While his client did not plead guilty to the crime, lawyer Robert Gottlieb cited “other right-wing conspiracy websites, hate words that have been spewed by citizens, including politicians, including right at the White House.” In court, Comello displayed handwritten pro-Trump slogans on his palm, including the phrases “MAGA Forever,” “Make America Great Again,” and “Patriots in Charge.” Comello was remanded without bail. Gottlieb told the court Comello’s “family and friends... recognize and picked up on significant changes in him over the past few months. Something dramatically happened to him that certainly seems to have been affected by that hate spewed throughout the internet.”

And right under that retarded shit...

https://i.imgur.com/oApCmml.png

:lol:

[Parkbandit]

By golly

https://www.thedailybeast.com/anthony-comello-gambino-mob-boss-shooting-suspect-radicalized-by-qanon-far-right-sites-even-trump-lawyer-says



And right under that retarded shit...

https://i.imgur.com/oApCmml.png

:lol:

I know where the really, really special kind of retards go for their "news" walking orders.

I'm not shocked at all. He didn't even give credit to the "author" at the dailybeast.com.. he just pilfered it and tried to pass it along as his own.

Shitstains gotta shitstain afterall.

[Tgo01]

I know where the really, really special kind of retards go for their "news" walking orders.

I'm not shocked at all. He didn't even give credit to the "author" at the dailybeast.com.. he just pilfered it and tried to pass it along as his own.

Shitstains gotta shitstain afterall.

What's really funny is he is always accusing others of listening to Alex Jones and here he is reading and sharing stories from The Daily Beast of all places.

He might as well just get his news from The Onion and Share Blue at this point.

[Parkbandit]

What's really funny is he is always accusing others of listening to Alex Jones and here he is reading and sharing stories from The Daily Beast of all places.

He might as well just get his news from The Onion and Share Blue at this point.

No one ever accused him of not being a raging hypocritical scumbag.

Like ever.

[Methais]

I know where the really, really special kind of retards go for their "news" walking orders.

I'm not shocked at all. He didn't even give credit to the "author" at the dailybeast.com.. he just pilfered it and tried to pass it along as his own.

Shitstains gotta shitstain afterall.

As far as shitstains go, he's the shitstainestest.

[Wrathbringer]

As far as shitstains go, he's the shitstainestest.

This is correct.

[Androidpk]

In a major policy shift for the world’s biggest social media network, Facebook banned white nationalism and white separatism on its platform Tuesday. Facebook will also begin directing users who try to post content associated with those ideologies to a nonprofit that helps people leave hate groups, Motherboard has learned.

The new policy, which will be officially implemented next week, highlights the malleable nature of Facebook’s policies, which govern the speech of more than 2 billion users worldwide. And Facebook still has to effectively enforce the policies if it is really going to diminish hate speech on its platform. The policy will apply to both Facebook and Instagram.

Last year, a Motherboard investigation found that, though Facebook banned “white supremacy” on its platform, it explicitly allowed “white nationalism” and “white separatism.” After backlash from civil rights groups and historians who say there is no difference between the ideologies, Facebook has decided to ban all three, two members of Facebook’s content policy team said.

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/nexpbx/facebook-bans-white-nationalism-and-white-separatism?utm_source=reddit.com

[Androidpk]

FBI Director Broke With Trump And Said White Supremacy Is A “Persistent, Pervasive Threat” To The US

“The danger, I think, of white supremacists, violent extremism, or any other kind of violent extremism is, of course, significant,” Wray told the House Appropriations Committee, when asked how his agency is addressing the threat. “It’s a persistent, pervasive threat. We tackle it both through our joint terrorism task forces on the domestic side as well as the civil rights program on the criminal side through hate crime enforcement.”

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/salvadorhernandez/fbi-director-white-supremacy-threat

[Methais]

FBI Director Broke With Trump And Said White Supremacy Is A “Persistent, Pervasive Threat” To The US

“The danger, I think, of white supremacists, violent extremism, or any other kind of violent extremism is, of course, significant,” Wray told the House Appropriations Committee, when asked how his agency is addressing the threat. “It’s a persistent, pervasive threat. We tackle it both through our joint terrorism task forces on the domestic side as well as the civil rights program on the criminal side through hate crime enforcement.”

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/salvadorhernandez/fbi-director-white-supremacy-threat

If you kill yourself (non-fatally of course), that will be one less white person to be a persistent, pervasive threat.

What are you waiting for? Don't you want to help? Or are you just virtue signaling again?

EDIT: lol buzzfeed

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

When did Trump say white supremacy isn't a threat?

[Tgo01]

When did Trump say white supremacy isn't a threat?

I think he said it wasn't a rising threat. The left seems to think every other white person is a violent white supremacist now and Trump said it was a small group of people still, because it is.

[Methais]

I think he said it wasn't a rising threat. The left seems to think every other white person is a violent white supremacist now and Trump said it was a small group of people still, because it is.

Every other person? That's only like 50%. According to the left, 99.99999% of every white person who isn't them is a violent white supremacist, despite the fact that said leftists are typically violent and hate people of all colors who disagree with them and their unicorn logic.

[Tgo01]

Every other person? That's only like 50%. According to the left, 99.99999% of every white person who isn't them is a violent white supremacist, despite the fact that said leftists are typically violent and hate people of all colors who disagree with them and their unicorn logic.

It's not like some crazy white leftist screamed at and harassed an old Jewish man and called him a Nazi just a couple of days ago.

Oh wait...

She ended up calling the police because of the harassment she was receiving. What an entitled bitch.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I'm ok with it because I'm 0.0097% cherokee.

[Tgo01]

I'm ok with it because I'm 0.0097% cherokee.

You were Joe Biden yesterday and today you're Elizabeth Warren :O

You gonna call yourself Spartacus tomorrow?

[Androidpk]

I think he said it wasn't a rising threat. The left seems to think every other white person is a violent white supremacist now and Trump said it was a small group of people still, because it is.

It's not a small group. stop gaslighting just because you're a proud boy member.

[Methais]

She ended up calling the police because of the harassment she was receiving. What an entitled bitch.

"I can't believe people are harassing me what's wrong with these people?!?!?!!?"

I bet she's good friends with time4PhDildo.

Or at the very least time4PhDildo read the story and was like
https://media1.tenor.com/images/76f109048d0422e42f09420b45f74d9e/tenor.gif

[Methais]

It's not a small group. stop gaslighting just because you're a proud boy member.

Shut up loser people who know how to count are talking.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

It's not a small group.

Is there an approximate you have of how many people are considered white supremacists?

[Methais]

Is there an approximate you have of how many people are considered white supremacists?

In PK's defense, he can barely count to 10 without assistance.

[Androidpk]

Is there an approximate you have of how many people are considered white supremacists?

In the US or worldwide?

[Parkbandit]

Is there an approximate you have of how many people are considered white supremacists?

Everyone who doesn't tip their head back and swallow the full liberal load like he has are obviously white supremacists.. even if they aren't white.

[Gelston]

In the US or worldwide?

Why not tell us both?

[Ashlander]

Why not tell us both?

He can only google one at a time.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

In the US or worldwide?

US works for me

[Slider]

Lovely, a bunch of white guys screaming at a BLACK Woman that she is a white supremist. But hey, right wing violence, right guys. You'd fit right in with this crowd Androidpk.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJXtdr1sYaE

[Parkbandit]

Lovely, a bunch of white guys screaming at a BLACK Woman that she is a white supremist. But hey, right wing violence, right guys. You'd fit right in with this crowd Androidpk.


In Androidpk's defense.. the first step to be a leftist social justice warrior is just something Androidpk cannot overcome.

Step 1: Get off the couch.

He fancies himself an INTERNET social justice warriors.

There is a big difference

[Androidpk]

US works for me

https://www.npr.org/2019/02/20/696217158/u-s-hate-groups-rose-sharply-in-recent-years-watchdog-group-reports

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/20/us/hate-groups-rise.html

https://www.splcenter.org/news/2019/02/19/hate-groups-reach-record-high

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/03/the-facts-on-white-nationalism/

[Parkbandit]

https://www.npr.org/2019/02/20/696217158/u-s-hate-groups-rose-sharply-in-recent-years-watchdog-group-reports

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/20/us/hate-groups-rise.html

https://www.splcenter.org/news/2019/02/19/hate-groups-reach-record-high

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/03/the-facts-on-white-nationalism/

You do realize the National Socialist Movement is your side of the aisle, right?

And the SPLC is pretty much a corrupt arm of the leftwing propoganda campaign ... so I wouldn't put too much faith in whatever they claim.

[Tgo01]

Androidpk unironically quoting SPLC? The organization that has lumped Christian groups, ex-Muslims, black people, and brown people with the likes of actual racist, white supremacist groups such as the KKK and Neo Nazis?

The same organization that downplays actual black supremacist groups by suggesting they had to form as a response to white supremacist groups?

Yeah, let's rely on THAT source.

I can see why Androidpk rarely offers up his sources, he knows what a joke his sources are so he shamefully quotes them without referencing them.

What a laughing stock.

[Parkbandit]

Androidpk unironically quoting SPLC? The organization that has lumped Christian groups, ex-Muslims, black people, and brown people with the likes of actual racist, white supremacist groups such as the KKK and Neo Nazis?

The same organization that downplays actual black supremacist groups by suggesting they had to form as a response to white supremacist groups?

Yeah, let's rely on THAT source.

I can see why Androidpk rarely offers up his sources, he knows what a joke his sources are so he shamefully quotes them without referencing them.

What a laughing stock.

All 4 "sources" site the same left wing study.... he's really pathetic at this point.

[Androidpk]

Androidpk unironically quoting SPLC? The organization that has lumped Christian groups, ex-Muslims, black people, and brown people with the likes of actual racist, white supremacist groups such as the KKK and Neo Nazis?

The same organization that downplays actual black supremacist groups by suggesting they had to form as a response to white supremacist groups?

Yeah, let's rely on THAT source.

I can see why Androidpk rarely offers up his sources, he knows what a joke his sources are so he shamefully quotes them without referencing them.

What a laughing stock.

What happened to ignoring me? Another useless troll with no self control. Notice how tgo refuses to show a single source saying right wing extremist groups are a small fringe movement.

What a loser.

[Parkbandit]

What a loser.

https://media.giphy.com/media/121dCll6tJ9o76/giphy.gif

https://media.giphy.com/media/ADr35Z4TvATIc/giphy.gif

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

https://www.npr.org/2019/02/20/696217158/u-s-hate-groups-rose-sharply-in-recent-years-watchdog-group-reports

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/20/us/hate-groups-rise.html

https://www.splcenter.org/news/2019/02/19/hate-groups-reach-record-high

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/03/the-facts-on-white-nationalism/

First, SPLC is a joke. But lets address it, even if it's a joke. It states in the NPR article you linked... a 30% increase in hate crimes over the last 4 years, 7% in 2018 alone. It also incorrectly references the hate crimes statistics from the FBI as 17%. On the SPLC website, it states a 50% increase in the last year and that 40 people have been killed by "radical right terrorist attacks in 2018" (https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map). None of these have statistics behind them that back up any of those claims, can you point me to them?

The NYT article you linked, also references SPLC. See above. Add to that, it references the same talking points, without any data behind it. "The law center said the number of hate groups rose by 7 percent last year to 1,020, a 30 percent jump from 2014.". It also erroneously states "That broadly echoes other worrying developments, including a 30 percent increase in the number of hate crimes reported to the F.B.I. from 2015 through 2017 and a surge of right-wing violence that the Anti-Defamation League said had killed at least 50 people in 2018." I say erroneously because 1) it doesn't mention the 2015-2017 data points don't discuss the +1000 additional reporting agencies, or that the hate crimes the FBI reports on are all hate crimes. Someone before me summed this up nicely earlier in this thread. 2) it doesn't even match it's own website 50 people in 2018? Their website says 40 (again without anything to back up that figure other than... themselves saying it's 40 (or 50 per the NYT quoting them).

The third article, from SPLC itself, again is quoting it's own data, and falsely reporting the hate crime statistics but this "article" is quoted in the above two articles. So really, you are referencing everything from the SPLC so far.

Now the 4th article, is well thought out and from an unbiased news agency. It states several things about the things above.

"Experts, however, caution that the FBI’s hate crime statistics are an imperfect way to track the rise of white nationalism. Not all of the hate crimes overall were committed by white nationalists (some of the documented incidents, for example, were anti-white). The data do not identify the perpetrators that way."

"There was also an increase in the number of agencies participating in reporting hate crimes to the FBI and a subsequent increase in the population covered of 5.7 percent between 2016 (https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2016/tables/participation-table)and 2017 (https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2017/topic-pages/tables/participation.xls). So some of the increase is likely tied to that alone."

"Beirich said there is a lot of evidence pointing to a rising threat from white nationalism, but, she said, “I’m not sure FBI hate crime statistics prove the point.” She notes that a Department of Justice crime victimization survey (https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=5967) in 2015 found “U.S. residents experienced an average of 250,000 hate crime victimizations each year from 2004 to 2015.” But the survey does not show trends over time, Beirich said." (Note that Beirich works for SLPC)


All the above aside, you don't actually have a number of US based white supremacists, because there isn't one reported anywhere. The telling statistics, are from the FBI hate crimes website, and methodology has changed significantly from 15-17. I agree hate crimes are up, but I'd also say it's all hate crimes, which none of those articles do a good job of calling out. There are hate crimes significantly increased more than others there. The FBI statistics alone tell a very different story than "white nationalism is on the rise".

[Gelston]

First, SPLC is a joke. But lets address it, even if it's a joke. It states in the NPR article you linked... a 30% increase in hate crimes over the last 4 years, 7% in 2018 alone. It also incorrectly references the hate crimes statistics from the FBI as 17%. On the SPLC website, it states a 50% increase in the last year and that 40 people have been killed by "radical right terrorist attacks in 2018" (https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map). None of these have statistics behind them that back up any of those claims, can you point me to them?

The NYT article you linked, also references SPLC. See above. Add to that, it references the same talking points, without any data behind it. "The law center said the number of hate groups rose by 7 percent last year to 1,020, a 30 percent jump from 2014.". It also erroneously states "That broadly echoes other worrying developments, including a 30 percent increase in the number of hate crimes reported to the F.B.I. from 2015 through 2017 and a surge of right-wing violence that the Anti-Defamation League said had killed at least 50 people in 2018." I say erroneously because 1) it doesn't mention the 2015-2017 data points don't discuss the +1000 additional reporting agencies, or that the hate crimes the FBI reports on are all hate crimes. Someone before me summed this up nicely earlier in this thread. 2) it doesn't even match it's own website 50 people in 2018? Their website says 40 (again without anything to back up that figure other than... themselves saying it's 40 (or 50 per the NYT quoting them).

The third article, from SPLC itself, again is quoting it's own data, and falsely reporting the hate crime statistics but this "article" is quoted in the above two articles. So really, you are referencing everything from the SPLC so far.

Now the 4th article, is well thought out and from an unbiased news agency. It states several things about the things above.

"Experts, however, caution that the FBI’s hate crime statistics are an imperfect way to track the rise of white nationalism. Not all of the hate crimes overall were committed by white nationalists (some of the documented incidents, for example, were anti-white). The data do not identify the perpetrators that way."

"There was also an increase in the number of agencies participating in reporting hate crimes to the FBI and a subsequent increase in the population covered of 5.7 percent between 2016 (https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2016/tables/participation-table)and 2017 (https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2017/topic-pages/tables/participation.xls). So some of the increase is likely tied to that alone."

"Beirich said there is a lot of evidence pointing to a rising threat from white nationalism, but, she said, “I’m not sure FBI hate crime statistics prove the point.” She notes that a Department of Justice crime victimization survey (https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=5967) in 2015 found “U.S. residents experienced an average of 250,000 hate crime victimizations each year from 2004 to 2015.” But the survey does not show trends over time, Beirich said." (Note that Beirich works for SLPC)


All the above aside, you don't actually have a number of US based white supremacists, because there isn't one reported anywhere. The telling statistics, are from the FBI hate crimes website, and methodology has changed significantly from 15-17. I agree hate crimes are up, but I'd also say it's all hate crimes, which none of those articles do a good job of calling out. There are hate crimes significantly increased more than others there. The FBI statistics alone tell a very different story than "white nationalism is on the rise".


42

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

42

I see how, from your response, you blame the 42nd president of the US on the rise in hate groups. I'm gonna need statistics to back that up.

[Stumplicker]

I see how, from your response, you blame the 42nd president of the US on the rise in hate groups. I'm gonna need statistics to back that up.

If you're looking for Androidpk to cite sources that actually use facts to back them up, don't hold your breath. He cited a source about a couple months ago that stated half a fact in a quote, then ended the quote mid-sentence and wrote its own ending.

[Gelston]

I see how, from your response, you blame the 42nd president of the US on the rise in hate groups. I'm gonna need statistics to back that up.

No. I'm saying 42. The answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything.

[Stumplicker]

No. I'm saying 42. The answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything.

What'd that end up being anyway? It's been so long since I read it. It was the apartment number of the Kensington flat where the party that Arthur met Trillian was held, wasn't it?

[Gelston]

What'd that end up being anyway? It's been so long since I read it. It was the apartment number of the Kensington flat where the party that Arthur met Trillian was held, wasn't it?

What do you get if you multiply six by nine?

[Stumplicker]

What do you get if you multiply six by nine?

a teenager's giggling pornography joke.

[Parkbandit]

What do you get if you multiply six by nine?

69!!!!!!!

https://media2.giphy.com/media/xT9KVLMzuagLc6b36U/giphy.gif


a teenager's giggling pornography joke.

https://media.giphy.com/media/BaGUxEtYBFYGs/200.gif

[Astray]

What do you get if you multiply six by nine?


a teenager's giggling pornography joke.

https://i.imgur.com/mIvM04h.gif

[Androidpk]

If you're looking for Androidpk to cite sources that actually use facts to back them up, don't hold your breath. He cited a source about a couple months ago that stated half a fact in a quote, then ended the quote mid-sentence and wrote its own ending.

Tgo said white supremacist groups were a fringe movement.. Did you ask him to cite a source to that bogus information? Nope, cause you're only here to troll. GTFO :lol:

[Androidpk]

First, SPLC is a joke. But lets address it, even if it's a joke. It states in the NPR article you linked... a 30% increase in hate crimes over the last 4 years, 7% in 2018 alone. It also incorrectly references the hate crimes statistics from the FBI as 17%. On the SPLC website, it states a 50% increase in the last year and that 40 people have been killed by "radical right terrorist attacks in 2018" (https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map). None of these have statistics behind them that back up any of those claims, can you point me to them?

The NYT article you linked, also references SPLC. See above. Add to that, it references the same talking points, without any data behind it. "The law center said the number of hate groups rose by 7 percent last year to 1,020, a 30 percent jump from 2014.". It also erroneously states "That broadly echoes other worrying developments, including a 30 percent increase in the number of hate crimes reported to the F.B.I. from 2015 through 2017 and a surge of right-wing violence that the Anti-Defamation League said had killed at least 50 people in 2018." I say erroneously because 1) it doesn't mention the 2015-2017 data points don't discuss the +1000 additional reporting agencies, or that the hate crimes the FBI reports on are all hate crimes. Someone before me summed this up nicely earlier in this thread. 2) it doesn't even match it's own website 50 people in 2018? Their website says 40 (again without anything to back up that figure other than... themselves saying it's 40 (or 50 per the NYT quoting them).

The third article, from SPLC itself, again is quoting it's own data, and falsely reporting the hate crime statistics but this "article" is quoted in the above two articles. So really, you are referencing everything from the SPLC so far.

Now the 4th article, is well thought out and from an unbiased news agency. It states several things about the things above.

"Experts, however, caution that the FBI’s hate crime statistics are an imperfect way to track the rise of white nationalism. Not all of the hate crimes overall were committed by white nationalists (some of the documented incidents, for example, were anti-white). The data do not identify the perpetrators that way."

"There was also an increase in the number of agencies participating in reporting hate crimes to the FBI and a subsequent increase in the population covered of 5.7 percent between 2016 (https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2016/tables/participation-table)and 2017 (https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2017/topic-pages/tables/participation.xls). So some of the increase is likely tied to that alone."

"Beirich said there is a lot of evidence pointing to a rising threat from white nationalism, but, she said, “I’m not sure FBI hate crime statistics prove the point.” She notes that a Department of Justice crime victimization survey (https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=5967) in 2015 found “U.S. residents experienced an average of 250,000 hate crime victimizations each year from 2004 to 2015.” But the survey does not show trends over time, Beirich said." (Note that Beirich works for SLPC)


All the above aside, you don't actually have a number of US based white supremacists, because there isn't one reported anywhere. The telling statistics, are from the FBI hate crimes website, and methodology has changed significantly from 15-17. I agree hate crimes are up, but I'd also say it's all hate crimes, which none of those articles do a good job of calling out. There are hate crimes significantly increased more than others there. The FBI statistics alone tell a very different story than "white nationalism is on the rise".


Do you disagree with the provided information that the number of hate groups has increased since Trump took office?

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Do you disagree with the provided information that the number of hate groups has increased since Trump took office?

The number of reported hate crimes has increased since 2014 I would agree with, with caveats that the number of agencies reporting them has also increased and that reporting them is voluntary and subjective, yes.

[Wrathbringer]

Androidpk unironically quoting SPLC? The organization that has lumped Christian groups, ex-Muslims, black people, and brown people with the likes of actual racist, white supremacist groups such as the KKK and Neo Nazis?

The same organization that downplays actual black supremacist groups by suggesting they had to form as a response to white supremacist groups?

Yeah, let's rely on THAT source.

I can see why Androidpk rarely offers up his sources, he knows what a joke his sources are so he shamefully quotes them without referencing them.

What a laughing stock.

Pk really puts the "cunt" in "country".

[Stumplicker]

Tgo said white supremacist groups were a fringe movement.. Did you ask him to cite a source to that bogus information? Nope, cause you're only here to troll. GTFO :lol:

Does the dictionary count as a source?

https://i.imgur.com/M09vHZG.jpg

Learn how words work.

[Methais]

What a loser. Still not as much of a loser as me, but I set the bar extremely low so I don't see anyone becoming a bigger loser than me anytime soon.

This is correct.

If you get a job, you'll be slightly less of a loser. You should probably start there.

[Methais]

The number of reported hate crimes has increased since 2014 I would agree with, with caveats that the number of agencies reporting them has also increased and that reporting them is voluntary and subjective, yes.

PK thinks every hate crime consists of white supremacists stringing up a black guy or something similar, and ignores any and all anti-white hate crimes.

His asshole must be putting goatse to shame by now with the ravaging time4fun's been dealing out.

[Androidpk]

The number of reported hate crimes has increased since 2014 I would agree with, with caveats that the number of agencies reporting them has also increased and that reporting them is voluntary and subjective, yes.

I didn't ask about the number of reported hate crimes. You originally asked me for a number regarding members of white supremacist groups in the US. While I didn't find a specific number showing how many those sources show that the groups themselves are increasing.

[Methais]

Does the dictionary count as a source?

https://i.imgur.com/M09vHZG.jpg

Learn how words work.

PK doesn't understand the meaning of most words. This is normal. For him. Because he's stupid.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I didn't ask about the number of reported hate crimes. You originally asked me for a number regarding members of white supremacist groups in the US. While I didn't find a specific number showing how many those sources show that the groups themselves are increasing.

What? Your sources are SPLC x 3, and FBI hate crime stats which do not show groups but non-specific hate crimes. Even the person who works at SPLC says they don't show trends. Is that your "sources"? Did you even read them?

[Methais]

What? Your sources are SPLC x 3, and FBI hate crime stats which do not show groups but non-specific hate crimes. Even the person who works at SPLC says they don't show trends. Is that your "sources"? Did you even read them?

PK is a bit slow. That combined with his chronic TDS butthurt makes him progressively dumber each day than he was the previous day, and he doesn't understand anything except ORANGE MAN BAD.

He's a hardcore NPC these days.

https://media.breitbart.com/media/2018/10/NPC-13-groupthink.jpg

[Androidpk]

What? Your sources are SPLC x 3, and FBI hate crime stats which do not show groups but non-specific hate crimes. Even the person who works at SPLC says they don't show trends. Is that your "sources"? Did you even read them?

I did read them, all of them, it's why I chose them. Did you? They talk about the number of hate groups increasing. Groups increasing = # of people involved with them increasing. As for SPLC not being a good source to use do you have a source indicating they're not a reliable source? But I haven't seen anything showing they aren't reliable with the information they research.

[Methais]

As for SPLC not being a good source to use do you have a source indicating they're not a reliable source? But I haven't seen anything showing they aren't reliable with the information they research.

SHM: Yes, it is XYZ

PK: Yeah well do you have a source indicating that XYZ is a reliable source too?

SHM: Yes, it is ABC

PK: What about a source that says ABC is reliable??????????????????????????????????????????

3 hours later....

PK: All you do is provide bullshit sources and are a white supremacist troll.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I did read them, all of them, it's why I chose them. Did you? They talk about the number of hate groups increasing. Groups increasing = # of people involved with them increasing. As for SPLC not being a good source to use do you have a source indicating they're not a reliable source? But I haven't seen anything showing they aren't reliable with the information they research.

Why would you read them all, the first three stated the same thing, sourcing SPLC? Seems redundant.

Regardless, googling SPLC bias, SPLC funding, SPLC scandal, Morris Dees scandal brings back a host of reasons why it's left leaning and biased.

I do think you provided a pretty unbiased link with the factcheck.org website, but it doesn't support your statement. Even the SPLC rep in it says the FBI data doesn't provide trend data, and the rest of it is opinion and not based on facts/statistics.

[Methais]

and the rest of it is opinion and not based on facts/statistics.

You're assuming that PK knows the difference.

Protip: He doesn't.

[Back]

1 Dead, 3 Injured In Shooting At California Synagogue, Allegedly By White Supremacist (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/man-with-gun-reported-at-california-synagogue_n_5cc4accce4b0fd8e35bd0db7)


The man, identified by police as John Earnest, was detained near the synagogue Chabad of Poway and St. John of Damascus Orthodox Church.

At a press conference, officials said an older female died but that the three other victims, including one young girl, are in stable condition.

After shooting inside the temple with an AR-type assault weapon, the suspect was spotted by a Border Patrol agent who opened fire on the teen but missed, officials said. The suspect later turned himself over to police.

The synagogue was hosting its Passover holiday celebration, which was scheduled to begin at 11 a.m., just a half hour before the shooting incident. 10News reported. The celebration was set to end at 7 p.m. with a final Passover meal.

Earnest posted an 8-page manifesto online prior to the attack. In it, the suspect gloats about being from “European ancestry” and expresses his hatred of Jewish people. He says he feels “no remorse” for his upcoming actions that would leave one person dead, and that he took inspiration from the New Zealand mosque shooter that left more than 50 dead in March. Earnest also appeared to be a frequent user of racist gutter forum 8chan, and mentioned his desire for “the day of the rope,” a far-right term about a desire to kill journalists.

[Tgo01]

1 Dead, 3 Injured In Shooting At California Synagogue, Allegedly By White Supremacist (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/man-with-gun-reported-at-california-synagogue_n_5cc4accce4b0fd8e35bd0db7)

Interestingly enough in his manifesto he specifically says he doesn't like Trump because he is a Jew lover, yet the media and at least one Democrat presidential candidate has directly blamed Trump for the attack.

Almost as if they aren't concerned at all about the facts and are just waiting for the next tragedy to strike so they can blame it on Trump.

[RichardCranium]

an AR-type assault weapon

What are the odds on it being a pistol?

[Methais]

What are the odds on it being a pistol?

NO IT CAN’T BE BECAUSE AR STANDS FOR ASSAULT RIFLE!!!!!!!!!!!0

[RichardCranium]

Prayers for all those Passover worshippers.

[Tgo01]

Prayers for all those Passover worshippers.

Naww naww, the shooter was a white dude and the victims were Jews so we can blame Trump and bash white supremacy and refer to the victims by their actual religion.

[Tgo01]

Media: "Trump hates the Jews and is promoting white supremacist violence and now a white supremacist shot up a synagogue!"
Every sane person: "Yeah but the shooter says he hates Trump BECAUSE he loves Jews so much."
Media: "...yeah but still!!"

[sellstuff1]

Media: "Trump hates the Jews and is promoting white supremacist violence and now a white supremacist shot up a synagogue!"
Every sane person: "Yeah but the shooter says he hates Trump BECAUSE he loves Jews so much."
Media: "...yeah but still!!"

Definitely get your facts from right-wing terrorists, you nazi schmuck.

[Tgo01]

Definitely get your facts from right-wing terrorists, you nazi schmuck.

Oh hey look, it's that woman who isn't really a woman I can't call dumb or else I'm a sexist pig.

How you doing, dummy?

[sellstuff1]

Oh hey look, it's that woman who isn't really a woman I can't call dumb or else I'm a sexist pig.

How you doing, dummy?

Let's get back on topic, shall we?

The Anti-Defamation League released a report finding that attackers with ties to right-wing extremist movements killed at least 50 people in 2018. That was close to the total number of Americans killed by domestic extremists, meaning that the far right had an almost absolute monopoly on lethal terrorism in the United States last year. That monopoly would be total if, in one case, the perpetrator had not “switched from white supremacist to radical Islamist beliefs prior to committing the murder.”

[Tgo01]

Let's get back on topic, shall we?

The Anti-Defamation League released a report finding that attackers with ties to right-wing extremist movements killed at least 50 people in 2018. That was close to the total number of Americans killed by domestic extremists, meaning that the far right had an almost absolute monopoly on lethal terrorism in the United States last year. That monopoly would be total if, in one case, the perpetrator had not “switched from white supremacist to radical Islamist beliefs prior to committing the murder.”

And that has to do with blaming Trump for this latest attack how again, dummy?

[sellstuff1]

And that has to do with blaming Trump for this latest attack how again, dummy?

Topic of the thread is Rising Right Wing violence, but I forgot you were illiterate.

Also, when did I do the above? Oh right, you're just strawmanning because it's the only debate tactic that you're familiar with.

[Tgo01]

Topic of the thread is Rising Right Wing violence, but I forgot you were illiterate.

That's great, but you said:


Definitely get your facts from right-wing terrorists, you nazi schmuck.

In direct response to me saying:


Media: "Trump hates the Jews and is promoting white supremacist violence and now a white supremacist shot up a synagogue!"
Every sane person: "Yeah but the shooter says he hates Trump BECAUSE he loves Jews so much."
Media: "...yeah but still!!"

So are you admitting this wasn't Trump's fault, hence why you want to "get back on topic"?

Did you really think I was as dumb as time4fun and Androidpk and would fall for this obvious deflection?

Come on, sellstuff1. We all know you're a bigoted, racist, know-nothing piece of shit, but you really should stop projecting your traits onto others.

[sellstuff1]

I'm deflecting away from the fact that right-wing terrorists killed fifty people in 2018

Yes, you are.

[Tgo01]

Yes, you are.

You, Androidpk, and time4fun look even more dumb than usual when you don't have at least one of other trio of dumbasses backing up every dumb thing you say.

Good for you to fill in though when even Androidpk got tired of having his ass handed to him every time he hit that "reply" button.

[Tgo01]

Uh-oh! Trump called the Rabbi of the synagogue and the Rabbi gave a press conference where he talked about how comforting Trump was and how he appreciated the president of the US.

I guess the Rabbi is now a white supremacist Nazi because he didn't immediately blame Trump for the shooting and hang up on him.

sellstuff1, you backed the wrong horse on this one! Always check your neo-Nazis before commenting!

[Methais]

Definitely get your facts from right-wing terrorists, you nazi schmuck.

How many dicks have you sucked since the sun rose this morning so far?

[Back]

Anti-Semitism Hit ‘Near-Historic Levels’ In 2018, Report Finds



Anti-Semitic incidents in the U.S. remained at near-record levels in 2018, according to an Anti-Defamation League report (https://www.adl.org/audit2018) released Monday.

The KKK and all groups who identify as "white supremacist" should be listed as terrorist organizations.

[Gelston]

Anti-Semitism Hit ‘Near-Historic Levels’ In 2018, Report Finds




The KKK and all groups who identify as "white supremacist" should be listed as terrorist organizations.

Officially being called a hate group by the FBI isn't enough for you huh?

[Parkbandit]

Anti-Semitism Hit ‘Near-Historic Levels’ In 2018, Report Finds

The KKK and all groups who identify as "white supremacist" should be listed as terrorist organizations.

I bet you've been a very vocal opponent to your own party and their embrace of anti-semitism...

Oh wait...

https://media.giphy.com/media/HkyKoqokMDq1i/giphy.gif

[RichardCranium]

Anti-Semitism Hit ‘Near-Historic Levels’ In 2018, Report Finds




The KKK and all groups who identify as "white supremacist" should be listed as terrorist organizations.

Coinciding with Ilhan Omar's rise to the House of Representatives. Makes you think doesn't it?

[Parkbandit]

Coinciding with Ilhan Omar's rise to the House of Representatives. Makes you think doesn't it?

You give him far too much credit.. like the actual ability to think...

[Neveragain]

I bet you've been a very vocal opponent to your own party and their embrace of anti-semitism...

Oh wait...

https://media.giphy.com/media/HkyKoqokMDq1i/giphy.gif

Back made it very clear that only "white supremacists" should be listed as terrorists.

It's totally OK for non-whites to be anti-semitic. Because hating white people is going to solve all the problems, even if those white people happen to be Jewish.

[Neveragain]

The KKK (A hate group founded by Democrats to terrorize blacks and Republicans) and all groups who identify as "white supremacist" should be listed as terrorist organizations.

Fixed for historical accuracy.

[Back]

Glad the FBI and law enforcement in Nevada caught this "mentally ill" individual.

https://www.ktnv.com/news/crime/las-vegas-man-arrested-after-bomb-making-materials-found-in-home


A Las Vegas man was charged and arraigned in federal court Friday in connection to bomb making materials found at his home following an FBI-led Joint Terrorism Task Force investigation.

According to the criminal complaint, Climo was communicating with individuals who identified with a white supremacist extremist organization using the National Socialist Movement to promote their ideology.


Members believe in the superiority of the white race and have a common goal of challenging the established laws, social order, and government via terrorism and other violent acts. The organization encourages attacks on the federal government, including critical infrastructure, minorities, and members of the LGBTQ community.


The complaint alleges that during encrypted online conversations throughout 2019, Climo would regularly use derogatory racial, anti-Semitic, and homosexual slurs.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Glad the FBI and law enforcement in Nevada caught this "mentally ill" individual.

https://www.ktnv.com/news/crime/las-vegas-man-arrested-after-bomb-making-materials-found-in-home

Me too. I wish they'd gotten the dude who tried to propane bomb immigrant camps before he did it. But, you can't get every crazy person before it happens.

[Methais]

Glad the FBI and law enforcement in Nevada caught this "mentally ill" individual.

Anyone who would murder or attempt to murder innocent people is mentally ill.

Unless you think murder is normal behavior or something, in which case I could see the need for the quotation marks...

[Methais]

Me too. I wish they'd gotten the dude who tried to propane bomb immigrant camps before he did it. But, you can't get every crazy person before it happens.

Quiet, Back doesn’t want you talking about that because it ruins his narrative that only fringe right (which he believes is the mainstream right because he’s stupid as fuck) white supremacists kill people.

[Taernath]

Attempted shooting at Norwegian mosque, 75 year old dude stopped it.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/norway-mosque-shooting-attack-latest-gunman-worshipper-man-hero-far-right-terror-a9051986.html

[Methais]

Attempted shooting at Norwegian mosque, 75 year old dude stopped it.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/norway-mosque-shooting-attack-latest-gunman-worshipper-man-hero-far-right-terror-a9051986.html

Ramadan worshippers?

[Back]

Anyone who would murder or attempt to murder innocent people is mentally ill.

Thats a really interesting comment.

Does that suggest that "white supremacy" is a mental illness?

Are members of any other terrorist organization that advocates violence against innocents all just mentally ill?

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Are members of any other terrorist organization that advocates violence against innocents all just mentally ill?

Clearly they are. What else would they be?

[Neveragain]

Thats a really interesting comment.

Does that suggest that "white supremacy" is a mental illness?

Are members of any other terrorist organization that advocates violence against innocents all just mentally ill?

It's pretty well known that jihadists target the mentally ill or low I.Q. individuals to carry out their attacks. Of course this explains your unreasonable hatred towards peach colored people.

[Parkbandit]

Thats a really interesting comment.

Does that suggest that "white supremacy" is a mental illness?

If you believe the color of your skin is something special, then you are indeed a retard.

If you believe the color of your skin somehow affects your life or what you will become.. then you are indeed a retard.


Are members of any other terrorist organization that advocates violence against innocents all just mentally ill?

Yes. If you go out of your way to inflict terror on innocent people so you can somehow get your own way.. then you are indeed a mentally ill fuckface.

[Neveragain]

If you believe the color of your skin is something special, then you are indeed a retard.

If you believe the color of your skin somehow affects your life or what you will become.. then you are indeed a retard.



Yes. If you go out of your way to inflict terror on innocent people so you can somehow get your own way.. then you are indeed a mentally ill fuckface.

More and more I'm coming to the conclusion that it's no coincidence that our failing school system happens to coincide with the violence.


Ignorance breeds fear, fear breeds hate, hate breeds violence

[Methais]

Thats a really interesting comment.

Does that suggest that "white supremacy" is a mental illness?

Are members of any other terrorist organization that advocates violence against innocents all just mentally ill?

Yup. Or do you think that's the behavior of a normal person?

The irony of this question is the fact that I'm asking it to a mentally ill person.

[Back]

10,000 Rounds Of Ammo And 25 Guns Were Seized From A Teenager Posting Far-Right Memes On iFunny And Discord

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanhatesthis/ammo-guns-seized-from-teen-radicalized-on-ifunny


An 18-year-old Ohio man charged Monday with threatening a federal officer allegedly posted extensively online about mass shootings, specifically targeting Planned Parenthood. According to an affidavit, the bulk of Justin Olsen’s radicalized content was posted under the name ArmyOfChrist on meme-hosting app iFunny.

Federal agents seized 15 rifles, 10 semiautomatic pistols, and 10,000 rounds of ammunition during the arrest earlier this month.

Investigators said Olsen admitted that he was posting on iFunny under the name ArmyOfChrist and told the FBI during his arrest that his posts were supposed to be a joke. He described his posts about shooting federal agents as “a hyperbolic conclusion based on the results of the Waco siege.”

The FBI began investigating the iFunny account in February. As it gained more subscribers, Olsen created a Discord server to privately interact with his followers — a common phenomenon (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanhatesthis/the-problem-isnt-8chan-its-americans) in radicalized online spaces. It was there that he allegedly threatened federal officers.


Federal prosecutors said they decided to act this month in light of recent mass shootings. After his arrest, officers raided Olsen’s father’s home in Youngstown, Ohio, where Olsen was living.

Federal agents found a machete in Olsen’s car, 300 rounds of ammunition near the stairs leading up to his room, and another 10,000 rounds of ammunition in his bedroom. He also had camouflage clothing, camouflage backpacks, rifle cases, and a gun vault that contained several AR-15–style rifles and shotguns.

Got one before it happened.

[Taernath]

Got one before it happened.

According to the FBI they've gotten a few, they're just not widely reported on.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Minority Report.

[Tgo01]

10,000 Rounds Of Ammo And 25 Guns Were Seized From A Teenager Posting Far-Right Memes On iFunny And Discord

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanhatesthis/ammo-guns-seized-from-teen-radicalized-on-ifunny





Got one before it happened.

If we're going by the number of terrorist acts our government has prevented then Islamic terrorism is by far the biggest threat this nation faces. Shit, the whole world faces. It's not even close.

If the governments around the world had NOT prevented Islamic terrorist attacks you would be hearing about someone screaming Allahu Akbar and blowing themselves up about every week. Well probably not in far left leaning countries such as Sweden, they would probably pull an Obama and say he screamed "God is great!" before murdering dozens.

[Back]

The Proud Boys held a demonstration in Portland today. They are a far-right neo-fascist organization that admits only men as members and promotes political violence. The goal was a bait antifa into showing up. The Proud Boys, the right wing, and Trump are trying to pull a fast one on the public by trying to put the domestic terrorism label on counter protesters.


Joe Biggs, a former InfoWars staffer and the organizer of Saturday’s right-wing demonstration, was asked by The Oregonian/OregonLive what message the effort got across:

“Go look at President Trump’s Twitter,” he said. “He talked about Portland, said he’s watching antifa. That’s all we wanted. We wanted national attention, and we got it. Mission success.”

[Parkbandit]

The Proud Boys held a demonstration in Portland today. They are a far-right neo-fascist organization that admits only men as members and promotes political violence. The goal was a bait antifa into showing up. The Proud Boys, the right wing, and Trump are trying to pull a fast one on the public by trying to put the domestic terrorism label on counter protesters.

So... just so we can keep it straight:

Proud Boys = Bad
Antifa = Good?

Asking for a friend.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

So... just so we can keep it straight:

Proud Boys = Bad
Antifa = Good?

Asking for a friend.

You are asking a soy boy faggot. Don't expect 1) a straight answer or 2) a rational answer. He'll go full faggot and say orange man bad.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Also, Back is a pedophile. I mean, look at the tags, they all say he's a pedophile. Prove me wrong.

[Back]

So... just so we can keep it straight:

Proud Boys = Bad
Antifa = Good?

Asking for a friend.

They are all knucleheads.

But lets be honest and recognize that the Proud Boys are not innocent victims here. They deliberately agitate with the purpose of starting fights with counter protesters. Antifa are just the suckers who take that bait.

[Parkbandit]

They are all knucleheads.

But lets be honest and recognize that the Proud Boys are not innocent victims here. They deliberately agitate with the purpose of starting fights with counter protesters. Antifa are just the suckers who take that bait.

I agree.. they are all knuckleheads..

I just don't know why you feel the need to single out the proud boys as ZOMG TERRORISTS! while downplaying Antifa's terroristism.

And sorry.. don't know much about proud boys (sounds like a gay themed parade).. but do they also wear masks and cover their face when they terrorize people?

[Back]

I agree.. they are all knuckleheads..

I just don't know why you feel the need to single out the proud boys as ZOMG TERRORISTS! while downplaying Antifa's terroristism.

And sorry.. don't know much about proud boys (sounds like a gay themed parade).. but do they also wear masks and cover their face when they terrorize people?

https://katu.com/resources/media/856b62ff-956a-431b-b3e5-f9efb01fd9b9-large16x9_proudboyscap.jpg?1542848720417

[audioserf]

Is that someone’s grandma who drove the van or something lmao

[audioserf]

Gamgam we have to rumble with the Antifa can you drive us

[Some Rogue]

That's PB. They are even wearing a symbol in his honor!

[Taernath]

Remember that weird 'one man neighborhood watch' guy? Building bombs and talking about/planning shooting up synagogues.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxiIsJXDrQQ

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/10/us/las-vegas-synagogue-conor-climo.html


Prosecutors said that Mr. Climo, 23, had communicated with people who identify with a white supremacist extremist organization, and had encrypted online conversations in which he regularly used derogatory racial, anti-Semitic and homophobic slurs.

He discussed attacking a Las Vegas synagogue, making Molotov cocktails and improvising explosive devices, officials said. Mr. Climo also discussed conducting surveillance on a bar he believed served the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community in downtown Las Vegas.

During the execution of a search warrant on Thursday, the authorities seized a notebook with hand-drawn schematics for a potential Las Vegas-area attack. Also inside the notebook were drawings of timed explosive devices, the statement said.

Here's another guy:
https://abcnews.go.com/US/ohio-white-nationalist-anti-semite-arrested-threatening-shoot/story?id=65040200


Police initially became aware of Reardon on July 11 when he posted a video on Instagram of a man shooting a semi-automatic rifle with sirens and screams in the background. He tagged the Jewish Community Center of Youngstown in the post.

"That kicked off an intense investigation, a very rapidly evolving investigation, because of the way the world is," New Middletown Police Chief Vince D’Egidio told Youngstown ABC affiliate WYTV.

Reardon is an avowed anti-Semite and white nationalist and attended the deadly "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, in 2017, according to WYTV. During the raid on his house on Friday police also discovered anti-Semitic and white nationalist propaganda.

And a third:
https://abcnews.go.com/US/florida-white-supremacist-arrested-threatening-shooting-walmart-police/story?id=64906798


A Florida white supremacist has been arrested for threatening a shooting at a Walmart just days after 22 people were killed at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, in one of the worst mass shootings in the country's modern history.

Richard Clayton, 26, was arrested by Florida Department of Law Enforcement authorities on Friday in Winter Park after making an online threat last week, according to police.

On Aug. 6, Clayton allegedly posted on Facebook, "3 more days of probation left then I get my AR-15 back. Don’t go to Walmart next week."

[RichardCranium]

Remember that weird 'one man neighborhood watch' guy? Building bombs and talking about/planning shooting up synagogues.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxiIsJXDrQQ

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/10/us/las-vegas-synagogue-conor-climo.html



Here's another guy:
https://abcnews.go.com/US/ohio-white-nationalist-anti-semite-arrested-threatening-shoot/story?id=65040200



And a third:
https://abcnews.go.com/US/florida-white-supremacist-arrested-threatening-shooting-walmart-police/story?id=64906798

Firing squad for all three. Problem solved.

[Parkbandit]

Firing squad for all three. Problem solved.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/UVTJOUHNmy84TRne5m/giphy.gif

[Taernath]

More arrests.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/brandon-wagshol-connecticut-racist-trump-transphobic-posts


A Connecticut man who had amassed an arsenal of tactical weapons and body armor, and who police say may have been preparing for a mass shooting, left a trail of virulently racist and anti-trans postings online.


TPM found that social media accounts registered to Norwalk, Connecticut resident Brandon Wagshol both reflected elements of the police accusations against him and contained rants against minorities.

Wagshol was arrested, officials said, after a joint FBI-local police investigation on a tip that the 22-year old was trying to import “large capacity rifle magazines from out of state.” During the investigation, Wagshol wrote a Facebook post “that showed his interest in committing a mass shooting,” leading to a raid on his house and his arrest, the FBI and local police said in a joint statement.

Police say that they uncovered a weapons cache during the raid, including titanium body armor and a combat helmet.

[Methais]

More arrests.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/brandon-wagshol-connecticut-racist-trump-transphobic-posts

Social media makes cops' jobs so much easier.

[Gelston]

Social media makes cops' jobs so much easier.

One of the guys arrested, his only "crime" was reposting memes on FB. He didn't create any, he never made any threats. Getting kind of British like in some of these.

[RichardCranium]

One of the guys arrested, his only "crime" was reposting memes on FB. He didn't create any, he never made any threats. Getting kind of British like in some of these.

You show some respect for the crown, pleb.

[Neveragain]

One of the guys arrested, his only "crime" was reposting memes on FB. He didn't create any, he never made any threats. Getting kind of British like in some of these.

Sadly, none of this does anything to find out why young men (white, black, brown...) are lashing out like this. I think the best theory I have come across thus far is the lessening demand for the subconscious primal role of males in a society.

[Parkbandit]

Sadly, none of this does anything to find out why young men (white, black, brown...) are lashing out like this. I think the best theory I have come across thus far is the lessening demand for the subconscious primal role of males in a society.

http://static.i85media.com/dumbphotos/photos/Animals/wtfcat.jpg

[Taernath]

One of the guys arrested, his only "crime" was reposting memes on FB. He didn't create any, he never made any threats. Getting kind of British like in some of these.

Which one specifically are you referring to? They all have been charged with either weapons violations or threats and harassment.

[Neveragain]

http://static.i85media.com/dumbphotos/photos/Animals/wtfcat.jpg

This is actually a thing.

This theory is being used to explain the massive rise in male suicide rates. It's explained that both men and women have a primal role that has been ingrained in our subconscious over the thousands of years of our existence. When these roles are not fulfilled we often enter a state of depression.

[Back]

Trump-Loving Neo-Nazi Arrested For Allegedly Plotting To Kill Miami Hispanics (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-loving-neo-nazi-arrested-for-allegedly-plotting-to-kill-miami-hispanics_n_5d5c1f01e4b05f62fbd60228)


Federal officials have arrested a man in Washington state on suspicion of plotting a mass shooting targeting Hispanic people in Florida, court documents filed Monday revealed.

Maryland resident Eric Lin, 35, wanted to kill as many Hispanic people as he could in Miami and elsewhere, an FBI agent said in a sworn affidavit filed Monday with the Southern District of Florida.


Lin made his threats in a long series of Facebook messages to an unnamed individual that were provided to law enforcement. The missives were packed with racial and ethnic slurs, praise for Adolf Hitler, threats of sexual violence, genocide and cannibalism.

[Methais]

Sadly, none of this does anything to find out why young men (white, black, brown...) are lashing out like this. I think the best theory I have come across thus far is the lessening demand for the subconscious primal role of males in a society.

It's probably a combination of 24/7 bullshit news cycle, and social media where everyone is convinced that they're super important to society and that they matter in the grand scheme of things.

Or in the case of people like BacKKKlash, some people are just soy fed retards.

[Alfster]

So you're saying it's mental health

[Methais]

So you're saying it's mental health

Mostly, yeah.

But there are also some people who are just flat out fucking stupid and gullible as fuck and easily manipulated, despite technically not being retarded and having no actual diagnosed mental illness.

BacKKKlash would be a non-violent example of this, as he's just a keyboard warrior. An incredibly stupid, gullible as fuck, and easily manipulated keyboard warrior.

Actually I guess since being stupid as fuck is considered mental health too, then yes 100% to your question.

[Parkbandit]

So you're saying it's mental health
https://media2.giphy.com/media/UVTJOUHNmy84TRne5m/giphy.gif

[Gelston]

Which one specifically are you referring to? They all have been charged with either weapons violations or threats and harassment.

One guy had additional charges of having some state illegal high capacity mags. If I was in his state I'd be illegal with that too. Guy from the NE. The investigation and charges are all based on him REPOSTING memes. He didn't even create them.

Those Anti-ATF/FBI memes are all the fuck over FB, and I personally feel they are treading on the fruit from the poisonous tree dealio.

[Neveragain]

and social media where everyone is convinced that they're super important to society and that they matter in the grand scheme of things.

That's pretty much what the theory suggests. At the tribal level every members skill sets were needed for survival. In today's society, not so much.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I think everyone is being tiddie babies about a mental health issue, not firearms. You take guns away (never happen here) fucks will drive semis into crowds like in Paris (or NYC). Fix the crazy.

[Taernath]

One guy had additional charges of having some state illegal high capacity mags. If I was in his state I'd be illegal with that too. Guy from the NE. The investigation and charges are all based on him REPOSTING memes. He didn't even create them.

Those Anti-ATF/FBI memes are all the fuck over FB, and I personally feel they are treading on the fruit from the poisonous tree dealio.

I still have no idea which one you're talking about. There were two from OH, one from CT, and one from MD (though it was posted later). Boy, so many potential mass murderers it's getting hard to keep track of them all! What a time to be alive.

Regardless, MAYBE 'joking' or 'reposting memes' about shooting up schools or killing federal agents in the wake of several mass shooting isn't the best idea, like joking about bombs in an airport.

[Gelston]

I still have no idea which one you're talking about. There were two from OH, one from CT, and one from MD (though it was posted later). Boy, so many potential mass murderers it's getting hard to keep track of them all! What a time to be alive.

Regardless, MAYBE 'joking' or 'reposting memes' about shooting up schools or killing federal agents in the wake of several mass shooting isn't the best idea, like joking about bombs in an airport.

I'm just gonna have to disagree with you here slick. He never made a threat. He was reposting memes.

[Taernath]

I'm just gonna have to disagree with you here slick. He never made a threat. He was reposting memes.

You're talking about the CT guy, Wagshol, right?

This is what got the FBI's attention:


Wagshol was arrested, officials said, after a joint FBI-local police investigation on a tip that the 22-year old was trying to import “large capacity rifle magazines from out of state.” During the investigation, Wagshol wrote a Facebook post “that showed his interest in committing a mass shooting,” leading to a raid on his house and his arrest, the FBI and local police said in a joint statement.

This is what he was charged with:


Wagshol has been charged with four counts of illegal possession of high-capacity firearm magazines. He is being held on $250,000 bond.

Nothing about memes anywhere my guy.

[Gelston]

You're talking about the CT guy, Wagshol, right?

This is what got the FBI's attention:



This is what he was charged with:



Nothing about memes anywhere my guy.

News report I saw they started looking into him because of memes posted.

[Taernath]

News report I saw they started looking into him because of memes posted.

Literally from the Norwalk CT PD facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/91930453640/photos/a.290937548640/10157812647928641/?type=3&theater


The Federal Bureau of Investigation National Threat Operations Center (NTOC) received a tip that Wagshol was attempting to purchase large capacity rifle magazines from out of state. The FBI and the Norwalk Police Department began a joint investigation based upon this information. During the investigation it was revealed that Wagshol was buying rifle parts online in an attempt to build his own rifle. Wagshol had a Facebook post that showed his interest in committing a mass shooting. Based on the investigation, a risk search warrant was issued for Wagshol and his residence.

[RichardCranium]

Trump-Loving Neo-Nazi Arrested For Allegedly Plotting To Kill Miami Hispanics (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-loving-neo-nazi-arrested-for-allegedly-plotting-to-kill-miami-hispanics_n_5d5c1f01e4b05f62fbd60228)

Here's your attention.

You're still a racist, faggot, everything-that's-wrong-with-the-world-today piece of shit.

These Mandarin neo-Nazi's need to calm down though.

[Gelston]

Literally from the Norwalk CT PD facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/91930453640/photos/a.290937548640/10157812647928641/?type=3&theater

Hey, cool. I'm just going off what I read.

[Parkbandit]

Here's your attention.

You're still a racist, faggot, everything-that's-wrong-with-the-world-today piece of shit.



https://media2.giphy.com/media/UVTJOUHNmy84TRne5m/giphy.gif

[Tgo01]

Literally from the Norwalk CT PD facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/91930453640/photos/a.290937548640/10157812647928641/?type=3&theater

So the firearms apparently weren't illegal and belonged to the father. It doesn't state that building your own rifle is illegal or else I imagine he would have been charged with that too.

I sure would like to see this Facebook post: "Wagshol had a Facebook post that showed his interest in committing a mass shooting."

Because if it's like Gelston said and it was just a meme then that's bullshit.

So ultimately he was arrested for "4 counts of Illegal Possession of Large Capacity Magazines."

Yeah, it's a crime in this state apparently but this isn't exactly a Columbine style arrest here.

Also why is this posted in this thread? Are we just assuming all mass shooters are right wingers now or is there more to this story?

[Alfster]

Clearly the solution is censoring the internet

[Gelston]

So the firearms apparently weren't illegal and belonged to the father. It doesn't state that building your own rifle is illegal or else I imagine he would have been charged with that too.

I sure would like to see this Facebook post: "Wagshol had a Facebook post that showed his interest in committing a mass shooting."

Because if it's like Gelston said and it was just a meme then that's bullshit.

So ultimately he was arrested for "4 counts of Illegal Possession of Large Capacity Magazines."

Yeah, it's a crime in this state apparently but this isn't exactly a Columbine style arrest here.

Also why is this posted in this thread? Are we just assuming all mass shooters are right wingers now or is there more to this story?

Apparently he loved Trump a lot.

[Tgo01]

Apparently he loved Trump a lot.

That's something then.

[Taernath]

That's something then.

His twitter was talking about gassing trans people, jews, and hating black people.

But yeah, this is just about memes.

[Tgo01]

His twitter was talking about gassing trans people, jews, and hating black people.

But yeah, this is just about memes.

It still makes me wonder what those posts said if he wasn't charged for anything other than possession of large capacity magazines.

Posting that you hate black people doesn't warrant a visit from the police. Saying you want to gas trans and Jews would require a visit from the police if this was an actual threat against someone and not just some stupid shit he was saying.

[Taernath]

For a change of pace, here's one that wanted to shoot up an abortion clinic:

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/doj-arrests-chicago-man-allegedly-threatened-attack-womens/story?id=65063192

Farhan Sheikh, 19, was arrested last Friday evening after posting on the social media platform iFunny that he would attack a local clinic and "proceed to slaughter and murder any doctor, patient, or visitor I see in the area and I will not back down," according to a criminal complaint filed in the U.S. District Court of Chicago.

"Consider this a warning for anyone visiting," Sheikh allegedly wrote.

The indictment does not list the clinic where Sheikh was allegedly threatening to carry out his attack, but said it is approximately 4 miles from his residence in Chicago.

In a post to the platform last week, Sheikh wrote he was "done" with Illinois' "abortion laws and allowing innocrnt (sic) kids to be slaughtered for the so called 'womans right' [expletive]."

...

[Taernath]

Michael V. Zaremski

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/12/nyregion/white-supremacist-sussex-county.html

...

The police investigating the case found a massive amount of material related to white supremacist ideologies — much of it anti-Semitic in nature — on Mr. Zaremski’s phone and computer, Mr. Mueller said.

Investigators believed that Mr. Zaremski came to harbor white nationalist views, and that his beliefs were shaped by social media. They were still examining specific communities that he may have engaged with.

Mr. Zaremski posted numerous photos with the hashtag “kek,” an intentional misspelling of “LOL” used by the alt-right, on his Instagram account. He also posted photos referencing Pepe the Frog, the cartoon amphibian co-opted as a white nationalist mascot. Some of Mr. Zaremski’s Instagram posts included hashtags expressing support for President Trump.

He also used phrases explicitly associated with Nazi ideology, at one point referencing a speech given by Joseph Goebbels, the Nazi propaganda minister.

Investigators also found multiple references to “RWDS,” or “Right Wing Death Squad,” in photos on Mr. Zaremski’s phone. The phrase, a reference to far-right, fascist death squads that killed leftist activists in Latin America, is popular among white nationalists online.

Officials believed that Mr. Zaremski, who was an emergency medical technician, wore an “RWDS” emblem on his work jacket, Mr. Mueller said.

Among the weapons found at Mr. Zaremski’s home were six assault-style rifles that he had assembled or was assembling, as well as 15 high-capacity magazines loaded and ready for use, the police said.

According to the indictment, the handgun that the police in Franklin found on Mr. Zaremski also had no serial number, and he did not have a permit to carry it.

[Back]

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/homeland-security-white-supremacy-extremism-online_n_5d867bb5e4b070d468cd9553


DHS Warns Against Growing Threat Of White Supremacist Extremism Online

The agency says the internet has become a breeding ground for domestic terrorism, following hate-based mass shootings in the U.S.

The Department of Homeland Security is sounding the alarm on the growing danger of white supremacy across the country, warning of the internet’s ability to serve as a meeting space and a breeding ground for nationalist extremism.


In a 37-page report called the Strategic Framework for Countering Terrorism and Targeted Violence released Friday, the department emphasized the ease at which potential domestic terrorists can network, drawing a parallel to foreign threats.


“Similar to how ISIS inspired and connected with potential radical Islamist terrorists, white supremacist violent extremists connect with like-minded individuals online,” the report read.


“In addition to mainstream social media platforms, white supremacist violent extremists use lesser-known sites like Gab, 8chan, and EndChan, as well as encrypted channels. Celebration of violence and conspiracy theories about the ‘ethnic replacement’ of whites as the majority ethnicity in various Western countries are prominent in their online circles.”

[Neveragain]

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/homeland-security-white-supremacy-extremism-online_n_5d867bb5e4b070d468cd9553

Interesting that you would post this and not post Candace Owens taking these white women out behind the wood shack.

The rest of the story:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cUQqPxw3hc

These cunts are simply smugnorant.

[Methais]

Michael V. Zaremski

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/12/nyregion/white-supremacist-sussex-county.html

I really hate how these retards have hijacked KEK from a WoW reference to this stupid bullshit.

And speaking of stupid bullshit...


https://www.huffpost.com/entry/homeland-security-white-supremacy-extremism-online_n_5d867bb5e4b070d468cd9553

You’re stupid and full of shit.

[Back]

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fbi-arrests-army-member-bomb-news-network_n_5d88fa36e4b0938b59324449


The FBI has arrested a U.S. Army infantry soldier on a weapon of mass destruction charge after he reportedly discussed a plotting to bomb a major U.S. news network.

Jarrett William Smith, a 24-year-old private first class infantry soldier who was trained in combat and tactical operations and stationed at Fort Riley in Kansas, was charged with one count of distributing information related to explosives and weapons of mass destruction. FBI Special Agent Bradon LaMar wrote in an affidavit that Smith had disseminated information on building improvised explosive devices and had “spoken about his desire to travel to Ukraine to fight with the Ukraine-based violent far-right paramilitary group, Azov Battalion.”


Before he joined the military in 2017, Smith reportedly connected with Craig Lang, who had traveled to Ukraine to fight with another right-wing group called Right Sector. In late 2018, Smith allegedly wrote about his ability to make cell phone IEDs. Then, last month, Smith discussed a plan to conduct an attack in the United States with a FBI confidential source. Smith, the FBI said, talked with the informant “about killing members of the far left group, Antifa, as well as destroying nearby cell towers or [a] local news station.” He also suggested bombing the headquarters of a “major American news network.”

[Taernath]

lmao that's one way to PCS from Riley to Leavenworth.

What an idiot.

[Astray]

Pffft, that dude is fucked.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Backrash reads huffpost for "news". HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Back]

http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/white-nationalism-is-now-recognized-as-a-major-terror-threat-by-the-department-of-homeland-security?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter


White nationalism is now recognized as a major terror threat by the Department of Homeland Security

WASHINGTON, D.C. - Acting Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kevin McAleenan announced the agency’s new counterterrorism strategy at an event at the Brookings institute Friday, and for the first time, DHS is focused on addressing the threat of white nationalism coming from within the borders of the United States.


“Today, the United States faces an evolving threat environment, and a threat of terrorism and targeted violence within our borders that is more diverse than at any time since the 9/11 attacks,” said McAleenan.

[Methais]

http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/backlash-is-now-recognized-as-a-major-retard-by-the-department-of-homeland-security

This is correct.

[Back]

Here comes civil war talk from the right. As far as I'm concerned they already fired the first shot in El Paso.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanhatesthis/trump-civil-war-twitter-terms-of-service


On Sunday night, President Donald Trump tweeted a thread quoting statements made by Pastor Robert Jeffress on Fox News that if Trump were impeached and removed from office, a civil war would break out.

The Twitter account belonging to the Oath Keepers, which the Southern Poverty Law Center describes as "one of the largest radical antigovernment groups in the US today," quote-tweeted the president and added, "This whole thread is important to read. The term 'civil war' is increasingly on people’s tongue. And not just 'cold civil war' — full-blown 'hot' civil war. Fact is patriots consider the left to be domestic enemies of the Constitution bent on the destruction of the Republic..."


The Oath Keepers was founded in 2009 by Stewart Rhodes, a former paratrooper and former staffer for Republican Rep. Ron Paul. Although the organization claims to be a nonpartisan group of former military and police who have taken an oath to "defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic," the Anti-Defamation League and the Southern Poverty Law Center classify them as a heavily armed extremist group.

During the 2014 and 2015 protests in Ferguson, Missouri, members of the militia roamed the streets with .50-caliber Bushmaster rifles. In June, during a Republican walkout over climate change legislation, the state Senate had to be shut down due to a "possible militia threat" after Oath Keepers members showed up to protest.

The Oath Keepers did not respond to a request for comment, though the group's Twitter account remained active as people accused it of committing treason, and said they were reporting it to Twitter's safety team.

"Trump isn’t threatening a civil war, and neither am I," the account tweeted. "But the left is risking one. Just a fact."

I love that last line. Just like the rapists that say, "Well she was wearing a short skirt! She was asking for it!"

[Gelston]

Here comes civil war talk from the right. As far as I'm concerned they already fired the first shot in El Paso.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanhatesthis/trump-civil-war-twitter-terms-of-service





I love that last line. Just like the rapists that say, "Well she was wearing a short skirt! She was asking for it!"

Um... What there is even almost going towards a civil war? I was looking for some sort of physical action but all they did was make a tweet. Wow, so amazing.

The shooter in El Paso wasn't a member of this group or affiliated in any way.

[Tgo01]

Um... What there is even almost going towards a civil war? I was looking for some sort of physical action but all they did was make a tweet. Wow, so amazing.

The shooter in El Paso wasn't a member of this group or affiliated in any way.

Speculating on why Biden was pushing so hard for the Ukraine prosecutor to be fired is a conspiracy theory and apparently can't even be discussed in the news.

Speculating on what might happen if a president is removed from office via impeachment means you're a danger to society and is proof alone that Trump needs to be removed from office.

[Neveragain]

Here comes civil war talk from the right. As far as I'm concerned they already fired the first shot in El Paso.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanhatesthis/trump-civil-war-twitter-terms-of-service





I love that last line. Just like the rapists that say, "Well she was wearing a short skirt! She was asking for it!"
Be honest, the first shots were fired when a leftist tried to assassinate the entire right wing of the senate at a baseball game. Or the riots in the streets of DC on inauguration day.

[~Rocktar~]

Be honest, the first shots were fired when a leftist tried to assassinate the entire right wing of the senate at a baseball game. Or the riots in the streets of DC on inauguration day.

This is correct.

[Methais]

Here comes civil war talk from the right. As far as I'm concerned they already fired the first shot in El Paso.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanhatesthis/trump-civil-war-twitter-terms-of-service





I love that last line. Just like the rapists that say, "Well she was wearing a short skirt! She was asking for it!"

Stop being such a drama queen.

Retard.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Here comes civil war talk from the right. As far as I'm concerned they already fired the first shot in El Paso.

So, based on what you yourself wrote, we are in a civil war already, because some fringe group"fired the first shot in El Paso".

Can you direct me to that article, so I can catch up. And since we are already in a civil war, per you, have you armed yourself?

[Methais]

So, based on what you yourself wrote, we are in a civil war already, because some fringe group"fired the first shot in El Paso".

Can you direct me to that article, so I can catch up. And since we are already in a civil war, per you, have you armed yourself?

I heard that Back and his Antifa buddies have amassed quite an arsenal of dildos in preparation for the inevitable great social justice war.

Back is a true warrior, and don’t you ever forget it.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

It's funny how he doesn't mention the Dayton Antifa mass shooter in his civil war statement.

[Methais]

It's funny how he doesn't mention the Dayton Antifa mass shooter in his civil war statement.

It’s because he drinks AIDS.

[Tisket]

I love that last line. Just like the rapists that say, "Well she was wearing a short skirt! She was asking for it!"

Do stop clutching your pearls and crying that the sky is falling. It's tiresome.

Also, you suck at analogies.

[Methais]

Do stop clutching your pearls and crying that the sky is falling. It's tiresome.

Also, you suck at anal.

Details plz.

[Taernath]

Synagogue attack in Germany
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/09/world/europe/germany-shooting-halle-synagogue.html

BERLIN — A heavily armed gunman with a live-streaming head camera tried to storm a synagogue in eastern Germany on Wednesday as congregants observed the holiest day in Judaism. Foiled by a locked door, he killed two people outside and wounded two others in an anti-Semitic spree that smacked of far-right terrorism.

...

Like the Christchurch killer, the Halle assailant recorded himself, in a 35-minute video of shooting, mayhem and hateful language. In accented English, he identified himself as Anon, denied the Holocaust, denounced feminists and immigrants, then declared: “The root of all these problems is the Jew.”

[Gelston]

Synagogue attack in Germany
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/09/world/europe/germany-shooting-halle-synagogue.html

I'll submit that he was an islamic terrorizer.

[Taernath]

I'll submit that he was an islamic terrorizer.

Nnnah

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/german-synagogue-shooting-halle-attack-latest-stephan-balliet-suspect-neo-nazi-a9150451.html

He called himself a “weeb”, denoting an obsession with Japanese culture, and an “anon” – the term used to describe users of 4chan, 8chan and other imageboards that were used by previous mass shooters to share manifestos.

One of three documents Balliet posted online before the attack was entitled “manifesto” in Japanese and included an image of a sexualised anime “cat-girl”.

..


Balliet said he had “originally planned to storm a mosque or an antifa ‘culture’ centre” which he thought would be less defended than the synagogue targeted.

[Gelston]

Nnnah

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/german-synagogue-shooting-halle-attack-latest-stephan-balliet-suspect-neo-nazi-a9150451.html

Fucking weebs.

[Methais]

I'll submit that he was an islamic terrorizer.


Nnnah

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/german-synagogue-shooting-halle-attack-latest-stephan-balliet-suspect-neo-nazi-a9150451.html

Weebs are worse than both.

They also don't like showering or hygeine in general. Go to any fighting game tournament and take a whiff of the Super Smash section and their grease stained waifu pillows if you need to verify.

Or just remember that Klaive exists.

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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kaleb-james-cole-atomwaffen-guns-seized-neo-nazi_n_5dabb91ee4b0f34e3a76cc93


Seattle police have seized a cache of weapons from a suspected leader of the notorious neo-Nazi Atomwaffen Division whose members have boasted of preparing for a “race war” in America.

Seattle City Attorney Pete Holmes told NBC Seattle affiliate KING-TV that he believes the action “prevented a massacre.”



Kaleb James Cole, 24, who is believed to be the leader of the Washington state cell of Atomwaffen, was labeled an “extreme risk” in a court order that allowed police to seize the weapons under the state’s “red-flag” law. The statute allows law enforcement to remove guns from people believed to be a threat. Cole, who was not arrested nor charged with any crime, is now prohibited from owning guns for a year under the Extreme Risk Protection Order obtained against him.

Oooo, confiscate the toys for a year. What a slap on the wrist.

[RichardCranium]

Northwestern Oregon is prime real estate for Nazi skinhead pieces of shit.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Northwestern Oregon is prime real estate for Nazi skinhead pieces of shit.

Faggot soy boy places I'll never live in again for 200, Alex.

LA, SF, Seattle, DC, Baltimore, NYC, Boston.

[Taernath]

Faggot soy boy places I'll never live in again for 200, Alex.

LA, SF, Seattle, DC, Baltimore, NYC, Boston.

Everything ok?

[Neveragain]

waifu pillows

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People also ask

Is weeb a word?

What is the difference between a weeb and a Weeaboo?

Is it legal to kill Weebs? <---------

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Everything ok?

I'm fantastic. Why do you ask?

[RichardCranium]

All of your posts read like a Vox copy and paste.

[Parkbandit]

All of your posts read like a Vox copy and paste.

The first one is Vox... 2nd one is NY Daily.

He's a fucking regurgitating machine!

[~Rocktar~]

So, ummmm Boooo Hoooo, criminals separated from their family while in detention like every other suspect or criminal in the US when arrested.

Libs care more about a Trans person that died in custody than Jeffrey Epstein who's story has been swept fully under the rug so far it's likely wedged under the baseboard in the other room.

Sorry they died, would like to get to the bottom of it, would also like to get to the bottom of that piece of shit pedophile Jeffrey Epstein's death and to know who all he helped to assault kids so they can all rot in prison too.

[Methais]

The Trump administration has conceded it separated 1,556 immigrant parents and children more than it had previously admitted in court, bringing the total count of families separated to almost 5,500.

The government had originally admitted to separating about 2,800 families when a California federal court ordered it to end the practice in June 2018 as part of a lawsuit brought by the ACLU.

But it has since identified more separations; approximately 1,090 occurred after and in violation of the court order. The additional 1,556 separations disclosed on Thursday, which included 207 children under the age of 5, happened before the Trump administration implemented its “zero tolerance” policy aimed at prosecuting anyone who crosses the border without authorization. Officials have cited the zero tolerance policy as the cause of family separations.

This latest count is apparently exhaustive. Over the course of the last six months, the government investigated each one of the 33,000 children who had been in the custody of the Department of Health and Human Services’ Office of Refugee Resettlement dating back to July 1, 2017, to determine the new tally of separations, Lee Gelernt, an attorney for the ACLU, said in an interview. But the ACLU is also currently investigating potential separations that could have occurred before July 1, 2017, he added.

“If we hear about separations that occurred in the first six months after inauguration, then we’re going to go back to court and ask for those,” he said.

The new tally comes after a Department of Homeland Security Office of Inspector General report published in January found many separated families had gone unidentified.

The OIG report said that the “lack of an existing, integrated data system” at DHS and HHS made it difficult to ascertain just how many families had been separated. The final list of separated families was consistently revised through December 2018. Now even more separations have come to light.

“It is shocking that 1,556 more families — including babies and toddlers — join the thousands of others already torn apart by this inhumane and illegal policy,” Gelernt said in a statement. “Families have suffered tremendously, and some may never recover. The gravity of this situation cannot be overstated.”

The “zero tolerance” policy led to family separations
The separations were a result of the Trump administration’s “zero tolerance policy.” Announced in April 2018, the zero tolerance policy coincided with a shift in the demographics of migrants showing up at the border: families now make up the majority of those apprehended, rather than single adult males.

The Trump administration has sent record numbers of asylum-seeking families to immigration detention. The government’s rationale was that the practice of releasing families while they awaited their court dates — formerly the typical practice, which Trump has called “catch and release” — was encouraging migrants to come to the US, and that keeping them in detention while their immigration cases were underway would deter further migration.

But the US does not have the infrastructure to detain families on the scale the Trump administration has sought. There are only three facilities nationwide licensed to hold families long-term: Berks Family Residential Center in Berks County, Pennsylvania; Karnes Residential Center in Karnes City, Texas; and South Texas Family Residential Center in Dilley, Texas.

The government also can’t hold children in adult detention facilities for longer than 20 days under the Flores settlement agreement, which came from a 1997 court case in California. After the 20-day mark, children have to be transferred to the Department of Health and Human Services or another facility licensed to administer their care.

Trump officials have repeatedly cited these restrictions on the detention of immigrant children as the reason why they started separating families after former DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen signed a memo in April 2018 greenlighting the practice. Even after leaving office, Nielsen has continued to defend her testimony before Congress that December that the administration “never had a policy for family separation” and that the administration was merely enforcing immigration laws.

Officials have also said the practice wasn’t anything new. To an extent, that’s true — President Barack Obama also separated some families. But the number of separations that occurred under the Obama administration did not even come close to the number that have occurred under Trump, and it wasn’t done under an official policy.

Amid public backlash against family separations, Trump issued an executive order purporting to put a stop to them in June 2018. The California court also blocked the policy that month and ordered the government to reunify the families.

TR;DR


Officials with the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement have deleted surveillance video of a transgender woman who died while in custody.

Roxsana Hernandez, a 33-year-old transgender woman from Honduras, died on May 25, 2018, nine days after she was admitted to the Cibola General Hospital in Milan, N.M.

After she arrived in the U.S., Hernandez spent five days in Customs and Border Protection before she was handed over to ICE. She was then moved to the Cibola County Correctional Center, a facility owned by CoreCivic, a privately operated prison that contracts with the federal government.

An official autopsy concluded that Hernandez died because of HIV-related complications, and it classified the “manner of death as natural.”

An independent autopsy, however, which was requested by her family, confirmed the cause of death, but added that she’d been physically abused during her detention.

“U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) cannot speak to the validity of the private autopsy,” Danielle Bennett, a spokeswoman for ICE, said in a statement, at the time. “However, allegations that she was abused in ICE custody are false.”

In June, a nonprofit civil rights group, the Transgender Law Center, filed a lawsuit against ICE and the Department of Homeland Security demanding the release of all documents regarding Hernandez’s time while in custody.

Video documentation, which could help the case by providing vital evidence of how she was being treated at the correctional center, however, no longer exists.

On Wednesday, the Transgender Law Center released correspondence it received from a representative from ICE’s Office of Professional Responsibility, which read, in part, that “the requested video is no longer available," an email that was dated Aug. 28, 2018 read. "The footage is held in memory up to around 90 days. They attempted to locate and was negative.”

But to Lynly Egyes, the law center’s legal director, the footage should’ve been saved, since CoreCivic should’ve anticipated pending litigation because of the independent autopsy requested by Hernandez family.

“When a detainee death review is conducted, it’s important to keep track of all the documents to understand why someone died, and for that reason alone, they should’ve been keeping all of this evidence," Egyes told BuzzFeed News.

Andrew Free, an attorney working on the case, is also questioning the deletion of the surveillance video.

“How can ICE and CoreCivic claim any kind of transparency when they withheld video footage during an active investigation?” Free said in a statement.

“They were on notice to preserve any and all video surveillance and it seems they may have failed to do so... We filed suit because we have reason to believe they may be withholding more evidence,” he added.

A representative for the private prison facility claims that the company wasn’t aware of a possible lawsuit.

“CoreCivic didn’t receive notice that the plaintiff was considering a lawsuit until November 26, 2018 (six months after the death of Ms. Hernandez) when we were notified by a member of the media that Mr. Free was planning to file a lawsuit,” Brandon Bissell, manager of public affairs for CoreCivic, told the Phoenix New Times.

“As the digital camera equipment is not capable of retaining digital images beyond approximately thirty days, whatever digital images that might have existed had been long overwritten," Bissell added.

Also TR;DR

Stay triggered, twat lettuce

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https://news.yahoo.com/fbi-documents-conspiracy-theories-terrorism-160000507.html


FBI document warns conspiracy theories are a new domestic terrorism threat

The FBI for the first time has identified fringe conspiracy theories as a domestic terrorist threat, according to a previously unpublicized document obtained by Yahoo News. (Read the document below.)

The FBI intelligence bulletin from the bureau’s Phoenix field office, dated May 30, 2019, describes “conspiracy theory-driven domestic extremists,” as a growing threat, and notes that it is the first such report to do so. It lists a number of arrests, including some that haven’t been publicized, related to violent incidents motivated by fringe beliefs.

The document specifically mentions QAnon, a shadowy network that believes in a deep state conspiracy against President Trump, and Pizzagate, the theory that a pedophile ring including Clinton associates was being run out of the basement of a Washington, D.C., pizza restaurant (which didn’t actually have a basement).

“The FBI assesses these conspiracy theories very likely will emerge, spread, and evolve in the modern information marketplace, occasionally driving both groups and individual extremists to carry out criminal or violent acts,” the document states. It also goes on to say the FBI believes conspiracy theory-driven extremists are likely to increase during the 2020 presidential election cycle.

Is it really a crack down on conspiracies or is the Deep State trying to bury the truth by locking up those who really know whats going on?

[Taernath]

Is it really a crack down on conspiracies or is the Deep State trying to bury the truth by locking up those who really know whats going on?

There was a Qanon guy who smashed up a church a little bit ago:

https://www.newsweek.com/qanon-conspiracy-theorist-arrested-after-alleged-crowbar-attack-catholic-church-1462223

[Methais]

https://news.yahoo.com/fbi-documents-conspiracy-theories-terrorism-160000507.html



Is it really a crack down on conspiracies or is the Deep State trying to bury the truth by locking up those who really know whats going on?

TR;DR

[Seran]

https://news.yahoo.com/fbi-documents-conspiracy-theories-terrorism-160000507.html



Is it really a crack down on conspiracies or is the Deep State trying to bury the truth by locking up those who really know whats going on?

You and the President are doing quite a bit of sedition peddling. Maybe you should take step back and consider the enormity of a US President trying to overturn the power of the Legislative and Judicial branches by peddling conspiracy lies.

[Seran]

U.S. Code § 2383.Rebellion or insurrection

Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

[Ashlander]

You and the President are doing quite a bit of sedition peddling. Maybe you should take step back and consider the enormity of a US President trying to overturn the power of the Legislative and Judicial branches by peddling conspiracy lies.

I think Seran wants a title shot.

[Parkbandit]

I think Seran wants a title shot.

Is he worthy though? I'm not so sure he's ready.

[Methais]

U.S. Code § 2383.Rebellion or insurrection

Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

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I want the knuckleheads on this board to take note. Miller has been seeding Brietbart with this bullshit. This is deep state. This is government manipulation of your news sources. This is what you are falsely blaming the so called "mass media left socialist democrats" of doing. And, no, it is not alright if your supposed enemy did it first. Stop listening to these people who are telling you to be afraid of brown people and that your fellow Americans are the enemy. America is the place everyone came to to escape oppression, for freedom from being judged, about how they lived their lives or how they worshiped. A small group of people want you to think otherwise and are pushing your buttons to manipulate you.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2019/11/12/stephen-millers-affinity-white-nationalism-revealed-leaked-emails

Stephen Miller’s Affinity for White Nationalism Revealed in Leaked Emails


The emails, which Miller sent to the conservative website Breitbart News in 2015 and 2016, showcase the extremist, anti-immigrant ideology that undergirds the policies he has helped create as an architect of Donald Trump’s presidency. These policies include reportedly setting arrest quotas for undocumented immigrants, an executive order effectively banning immigration from five Muslim-majority countries and a policy of family separation at refugee resettlement facilities that the Department of Health and Human Services’ Office of Inspector General said is causing “intense trauma” in children.

Katie McHugh, who was an editor for Breitbart from April 2014 to June 2017, leaked the emails to Hatewatch in June to review, analyze and disseminate to the public. McHugh was 23 when she started at Breitbart and also became active in the anti-immigrant movement, frequently rubbing shoulders with white nationalists. McHugh was fired from Breitbart in 2017 after posting anti-Muslim tweets. She has since renounced the far right.


McHugh told Hatewatch that Breitbart editors introduced her to Miller in 2015 with an understanding he would influence the direction of her reporting. For that reason, and because Miller would have regarded her as a fellow traveler of the anti-immigrant movement, McHugh sometimes starts conversations with Miller in the emails, seeking his opinion on news stories. Other times, Miller directly suggests story ideas to McHugh, or tells her how to shape Breitbart’s coverage. Periodically, Miller asks McHugh if he can speak to her by phone, taking conversations offline.


“What Stephen Miller sent to me in those emails has become policy at the Trump administration,” McHugh told Hatewatch.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I want the knuckleheads on this board to take note. Miller has been seeding Brietbart with this bullshit. This is deep state. This is government manipulation of your news sources. This is what you are falsely blaming the so called "mass media left socialist democrats" of doing. And, no, it is not alright if your supposed enemy did it first. Stop listening to these people who are telling you to be afraid of brown people and that your fellow Americans are the enemy. America is the place everyone came to to escape oppression, for freedom from being judged, about how they lived their lives or how they worshiped. A small group of people want you to think otherwise and are pushing your buttons to manipulate you.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2019/11/12/stephen-millers-affinity-white-nationalism-revealed-leaked-emails

Stephen Miller’s Affinity for White Nationalism Revealed in Leaked Emails



Triggered, and pedophile.

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Triggered, and pedophile.

Oh you want to go, bro?

I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I???

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Oh you want to go, bro?

I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I???

You aren't worth debating. Triggered Pedophile. Go back to reading huffpost and motherjones.

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You aren't worth debating. Triggered Pedophile. Go back to reading huffpost and motherjones.

https://www.axios.com/hate-crimes-fbi-report-high-violent-property-6f9b013a-e448-4bd5-a18d-4b4643710362.html

Hate crimes reach 16-year high according to FBI report

Hate crimes reached a 16-year high in 2018, according to the FBI's annual report.

By the numbers: Of 4,571 reported attacks the bureau tracked, aggravated assaults were up 4%, simple assaults up 15% and intimidation up 13%. The report also shows that assaults targeting Muslims, Arab Americans and African Americans have gone down, while violence against Latinos has risen.



The report says 485 hate crimes were reported against Latinos in 2018, compared to 43o in 2017.



270 hate crimes were reported against Muslims and Arab Americans — the lowest since 2014.



1,943 hate crimes were reported against African Americans — the lowest since 1992.


There was also a 37% rise in attacks against people with disabilities, and a 34% rise in attacks against transgender people.



Property crimes motivated by hate also fell.


Flashback: Hate crimes overall had spiked by 17% in 2017. More than half of the reported crimes had been motivated by race.

Between the lines: As noted by the New York Times, more than half the victims of hate crimes don't report the incident. State and local police forces are also not required to relay hate crime data to the FBI. Many don't even collect data on the issue.



87% of 16,039 law enforcement agencies that reported data said they had zero hate crimes in 2018.



No hate crimes were reported throughout the entire states of Alabama and Wyoming.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

You fucking idiot. You know nothing of statistics. Look at the # of reporting agencies. Look at the definition changes of "hate crimes" over time. Goddamn why do I let you suck me in with bullshit you DO NOT UNDERSTAND.

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You fucking idiot. You know nothing of statistics. Look at the # of reporting agencies. Look at the definition changes of "hate crimes" over time. Goddamn why do I let you suck me in with bullshit you DO NOT UNDERSTAND.

You mean the FBI knows nothing of statistics?

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

You mean the FBI knows nothing of statistics?

Again, you are a fucking idiot. The number 3 is a statistic. Interpreting what that means is something beyond your mental capacity.

[Back]

Again, you are a fucking idiot. The number 3 is a statistic. Interpreting what that means is something beyond your mental capacity.

The FBI did the report. You don't trust them? You disagree with their interpretation of their statistics? You have better statistics or interpretations of their statistics?

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

The FBI did the report. You don't trust them? You disagree with their interpretation of their statistics? You have better statistics or interpretations of their statistics?

Yes. But it isn't the FBI stating that, it's AXIOS.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/ucr-statistics-their-proper-use

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Here's more, you fucking idiot.

The Hate Crime Statistics Program of the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program collects data regarding criminal offenses that were motivated, in whole or in part, by the offender’s bias against the victim’s race/ethnicity/ancestry, gender, gender identity, religion, disability, or sexual orientation, and were committed against persons, property, or society. Because motivation is subjective, it is sometimes difficult to know with certainty whether a crime resulted from the offender’s bias. Moreover, the presence of bias alone does not necessarily mean that a crime can be considered a hate crime. Only when a law enforcement investigation reveals sufficient evidence to lead a reasonable and prudent person to conclude that the offender’s actions were motivated, in whole or in part, by his or her bias, should an agency report an incident as a hate crime.
Changes to the data collectionOver the last few years, at the recommendation of the Criminal Justice Information Services Division’s Advisory Policy Board and with the approval of the FBI Director, the UCR Program has initiated a number of changes to the collection of hate crime data. Descriptions of those modifications, which are included in the published data, follow.
Revision to the definition of rapeThe UCR Program initiated the collection of rape data under a revised definition and removed the term “forcible” from the offense name in 2013. The changes brought uniformity to the offense in both the Summary Reporting System (SRS) and the National Incident-Based Reporting System (NIBRS) by capturing data (1) without regard to gender, (2) including penetration of any bodily orifice by any object or body part, and (3) including offenses where physical force is not involved. Beginning in 2013, the UCR Program defined rape as follows:
Rape (revised definition): Penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim. (This includes the offenses of rape, sodomy, and sexual assault with an object as converted from data submitted via NIBRS.)
Rape (legacy definition): The carnal knowledge of a female forcibly and against her will.
From NIBRS
For all law enforcement agencies that submitted their hate crime data via NIBRS, the UCR Program combined the agencies’ totals for the offenses of rape (which includes both male and female victims), sodomy, and sexual assault with an object to derive rape figures in accordance with the broader revised definition. (See the NIBRS User Manual (https://ucr.fbi.gov/nibrs/nibrs-user-manual/view) for the definitions of those individual offenses.) In addition, the UCR Program published any offenses of fondling, incest, and statutory rape submitted via NIBRS in the crimes against persons category of other.
From the SRS
The UCR Program’s revised definition of rape is the same definition adopted specifically for the SRS and includes the offenses of rape, sodomy, and sexual assault with an object (without any breakdowns for individual offenses). Likewise, the UCR Program’s legacy definition of rape is the same definition formerly used in the SRS as forcible rape. Although some SRS agencies were able to apply the revised definition to their data collection procedures, not all agencies were able to do so. Therefore, the UCR Program published the rape data of law enforcement agencies that submitted their hate crime data via the SRS electronic record layout or the Microsoft Excel Workbook Tool in accordance with the rape definition (revised or legacy) the agency applied.
Addition of religion and anti-Arab bias motivationsIn 2015, the UCR Program began permitting law enforcement agencies to report seven new religious anti-bias categories (anti-Buddhist, anti-Eastern Orthodox, anti-Hindu, anti-Jehovah’s Witness, anti-Mormon, anti-Other Christian, and anti-Sikh), as well as an anti-Arab bias motivation.
In addition, the national UCR Program began collecting the race and ethnicity categories in a combined format in 2015. The revised category is Race/Ethnicity/Ancestry. Along with this change, the former anti-not Hispanic or Latino ethnicity bias was changed to anti-Other Race/Ethnicity/Ancestry bias.
Additions of animal cruelty, fraud offenses, and a cyberspace location to NIBRSBeginning in 2016, the UCR Program began permitting law enforcement agencies that contribute their data via NIBRS to report offenses of animal cruelty, identity theft, and hacking/computer invasion, as well as the location of cyberspace.
Discontinuation of publishing data collected using the rape legacy definitionBeginning January 1, 2017, the national UCR Program ceased publishing rape data collected using the UCR legacy definition of rape.
Addition of federal dataBeginning in 2018, federal (FBI) hate crime data were included in the publication.
Data collectionIncident typesThe UCR Program collects data about both single-bias and multiple-bias hate crimes. A single-bias incident is an incident in which one or more offense types are motivated by the same bias. Beginning in 2013, law enforcement agencies could report up to five bias motivations per offense type. Therefore, the definition of a multiple-bias incident has been revised to “an incident in which one or more offense types are motivated by two or more biases.”
Offense typesThe law enforcement agencies that voluntarily participate in the Hate Crime Statistics Program collect details about offenders’ bias motivations associated with 13 offense types already being reported to the UCR Program: murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, rape, aggravated assault, simple assault, intimidation, human trafficking—commercial sex acts, and human trafficking—involuntary servitude (crimes against persons); and robbery, burglary, larceny-theft, motor vehicle theft, arson, and destruction/damage/
vandalism (crimes against property). The law enforcement agencies that participate in the UCR Program via NIBRS collect data about additional offenses for crimes against persons and crimes against property. These data appear in Hate Crime Statistics in the category of other. These agencies also collect hate crime data for the category called crimes against society, which includes drug or narcotic offenses, gambling offenses, prostitution offenses, weapon law violations, and animal cruelty offenses. Together, the offense classification other and the crime category crimes against society include 39 Group A offenses that are captured in NIBRS, which also collects the previously mentioned 13 offense types. (The NIBRS User Manual (https://ucr.fbi.gov/nibrs/nibrs-user-manual/view) provides an explanation of the 52 Group A offenses.)
Crimes against persons, property, or societyThe UCR Program’s data collection guidelines stipulate that a hate crime may involve multiple offenses, victims, and offenders within one incident; therefore, the Hate Crime Statistics Program is incident-based. According to UCR counting guidelines:


One offense is counted for each victim in crimes against persons.
One offense is counted for each offense type in crimes against property.
One offense is counted for each offense type in crimes against society.

VictimsIn the UCR Program, the victim of a hate crime can be an individual, a business/financial institution, a government entity, a religious organization, or society/public as a whole. Law enforcement can indicate the number of individual victims, the number of victims 18 years of age and older, and the number of victims under the age of 18.
OffendersAccording to the UCR Program, the term known offender does not imply the suspect’s identity is known; rather, the term indicates some aspect of the suspect was identified, thus distinguishing the suspect from an unknown offender. Law enforcement agencies specify the number of offenders (adults and juveniles) and, when possible, the race and ethnicity of the offender or offenders as a group.
Race/ethnicityThe five racial designations in the Hate Crime Statistics Program are: White, Black or African American, American Indian or Alaska Native, Asian, and Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander. In addition, the UCR Program uses the ethnic designations of “Hispanic or Latino” and “Not Hispanic or Latino.”
Data reportingLaw enforcement agencies report hate crimes brought to their attention monthly or quarterly to the FBI either through their state UCR Programs or directly. These agencies submit hate crime data electronically in a NIBRS submission, the hate crime record layout, or a Microsoft Excel Workbook Tool.
Reporting via NIBRSAgencies that report offense data to the FBI via NIBRS use a data element within their reporting software to indicate whether an incident was motivated by bias. Because NIBRS is an incident-based, comprehensive data collection system, these agencies report considerably more information about a hate crime than is captured in the other electronic record or the Excel workbook. For example, the data element that indicates bias motivation applies to 52 Group A offenses, and agencies can report information such as the age, sex, race, and ethnicity of victims, offenders, and arrestees. Although the additional data collected via NIBRS are not maintained in the hate crime database, they are available in NIBRS flat files. When agencies submit a Group A Incident Report with a bias indicator of “None,” a Group B Arrest Report (because no offenses [bias-motivated or otherwise] occurred in their respective jurisdictions), or a Zero Report (because no offenses [bias-motivated or otherwise] or arrests occurred), the FBI records zero hate crime incidents for that agency for the reporting period.
Reporting via the electronic hate crime record layoutLaw enforcement agencies that do not report via NIBRS may use the hate crime record layout specified in the publication Hate Crime Technical Specification (http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/ucr-program-data-collections#Hate).
Reporting via Microsoft Excel Workbook ToolAgencies that use the Microsoft Excel Workbook Tool capture the following information about each hate crime incident:


Offense type and the respective bias motivation.
Number and type of victims.
Location of the incident.
Number of known offenders.
Race and ethnicity of known offenders.
Number of adult or juvenile victims and offenders.

For each calendar quarter, law enforcement agencies submit a Hate Crime Incident Report for each bias-motivated incident or designate a Zero Report for the month. Each month, law enforcement agencies submit a Hate Crime Incident Report for each bias-motivated incident as part of their regular SRS submissions. When reporting zero incidents of hate crime, the agency should select the “zero report” box within the Microsoft Excel Workbook Tool. For updating purposes, the agency should retain a copy of the report. Agencies should select the “adjustment box” within the Microsoft Excel Workbook Tool to make corrections/updates and provide the appropriate changes. To delete incidents, agencies should select the “delete box” within the Microsoft Excel Workbook Tool.
Population figures and area designationsPopulation estimationFor the 2018 population estimates used in this table, the FBI computed individual rates of growth from one year to the next for every city/town and county using 2010 decennial population counts and 2011 through 2017 population estimates from the U.S. Census Bureau. The rates of growth for each agency were averaged; that average was then applied and added to its 2017 Census population estimate to derive the agency’s 2018 population estimate.
Universities and collegesThe population figures listed for universities and colleges are student enrollments that were provided by the U.S. Department of Education for the 2017 school year, the most recent available. The enrollment figures include full-time and part-time students.
County designationsBased on the Office of Management and Budget’s standards for defining Metropolitan Statistical Areas, the UCR Program refers to suburban counties as metropolitan counties and to rural counties as nonmetropolitan counties.
Publication annotationNarrative portions of this publication present percentage breakdowns for various facets of tabular data. Where percentage breakdowns are used, percentages may not add to 100.0 percent due to rounding.
Caution to usersValid assessments about crime, including hate crime, are possible only with careful study and analysis of the various conditions affecting each local law enforcement jurisdiction. (See Uniform Crime Reporting Statistics: Their Proper Use (https://ucr.fbi.gov/ucr-statistics-their-proper-use).) In addition, some data in this publication may not be comparable to those in prior editions of Hate Crime Statistics because of differing levels of participation from year to year. Therefore, the reader is cautioned against making simplistic comparisons between the statistical data of this program and that of others with differing methodologies or even comparing individual reporting units solely on the basis of their agency type.
Table methodologyTo be included in this publication, law enforcement agencies must have submitted either of the following: (1) at least one Group A Incident Report or a Group B Arrest Report via NIBRS or (2) at least one Hate Crime Incident Report via the Hate Crime Technical Specificationor the Microsoft Excel Workbook Tool. The published data, therefore, do not necessarily represent reports from each participating agency for all 12 months (or 4 quarters) of the calendar year. In addition, the UCR Program does not apply offense estimation procedures to account for missing data from agencies that do not participate in the Hate Crime Statistics Program.
When examining the data contained in this report, data users should be aware that the first line following each table number presents that table’s unit of analysis: incident, offense, victim, or known offender. The tabular presentation that follows briefly describes the data sources and the methods used to construct the Participation Table and Tables 1–14.


(1) Table

(2) Database

(3) Table Construction

(4) General Comments




Participation
All law enforcement agencies participating in the Hate Crime Statistics Program.


This table presents the number of law enforcement agencies participating in the Hate Crime Statistics Program and their jurisdictions’ aggregate population for 2018 distributed by population group.

For the 2018 population estimates used in this table, the FBI computed individual rates of growth from one year to the next for every city/town and county using 2010 decennial population counts and 2011 through 2017 population estimates from the U.S. Census Bureau. The rates of growth for each agency were averaged; that average was then applied and added to its 2017 Census population estimate to derive the agency’s 2018 population estimate.






1
All law enforcement agencies participating in the Hate Crime Statistics Program.

This table presents the number of incidents, offenses, victims, and known offenders distributed by bias motivation.







2
All law enforcement agencies participating in the Hate Crime Statistics Program.


This table presents the number of incidents, offenses, victims, and known offenders distributed by offense type.


Because incidents may include more than one offense type, the column figures will not add to the total number of incidents.

Because some offenders are responsible for more than one offense type, the column figures will not add to the total number of known offenders.

The offense definition of rape, as well as the collection and presentation of rape data changed in 2013. See Changes to the Data Collection (https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2018/resource-pages/methodology#_Revision_to_the) in this Methodology section for more details.




3
All law enforcement agencies participating in the Hate Crime Statistics Program.


This table presents the number of hate crime offenses distributed by the known offender’s race and ethnicity, as well as the offense type.


The sum of offenses by the known offender’s ethnicity does not equal the sum of offenses by the known offender’s race because not all law enforcement agencies that report offender race data also report offender ethnicity data.

The offense definition of rape, as well as the collection and presentation of rape data changed in 2013. See Changes to the Data Collection (https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2018/resource-pages/methodology#_Revision_to_the) in this Methodology section for more details.




4
All law enforcement agencies participating in the Hate Crime Statistics Program.


This table presents the number of hate crime offenses distributed by the offense type and bias motivation.


The offense definition of rape, as well as the collection and presentation of rape data changed in 2013. See Changes to the Data Collection (https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2018/resource-pages/methodology#_Revision_to_the) in this Methodology section for more details.




5
All law enforcement agencies participating in the Hate Crime Statistics Program.


This table presents the number of hate crime offenses distributed by the known offender’s race, ethnicity, and bias motivation.


The aggregate of offenses by the known offender’s ethnicity does not equal the aggregate of offenses by the known offender’s race because not all law enforcement agencies that report offender race data also report offender ethnicity data.




6
All law enforcement agencies participating in the Hate Crime Statistics Program.

This table presents the number of hate crime offenses distributed by the victim type and offense type.


The victim type society/public is collected only in NIBRS.




7
All law enforcement agencies participating in the Hate Crime Statistics Program.


This table presents the number of hate crime victims (individuals, businesses/financial institutions, government entities, religious organizations, and society/public as a whole) distributed by the offense type and bias motivation.

This table also provides the number of juvenile and the number of adult victims.


The offense definition of rape, as well as the collection and presentation of rape data changed in 2013. See Changes to the Data Collection (https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2018/resource-pages/methodology#_Revision_to_the) in this Methodology section for more details.

The aggregate of adult and juvenile individual victims does not equal the total number of victims because total victims include individuals, businesses/financial institutions, government entities, religious organizations, and society/public as a whole. In addition, the aggregate of adult and juvenile individual victims does not equal the aggregate of victims of crimes against persons because not all law enforcement agencies report the ages of individual victims




8
All law enforcement agencies participating in the Hate Crime Statistics Program.

This table presents the number of hate crime incidents distributed by victim type and bias motivation.


A multiple-bias incident includes one or more offense types motivated by two or more biases.





9
All law enforcement agencies participating in the Hate Crime Statistics Program.


This table presents the number of known hate crime offenders distributed by the known offenders’ race, ethnicity, and age categories.


The total number of known offenders by ethnicity and the total number of known offenders by age will not add to the total number of known offenders because not all agencies submit offender ethnicity and age data.




10
All law enforcement agencies participating in the Hate Crime Statistics Program.

This table presents the number of hate crime incidents by bias motivation and location.


Beginning in 2016, law enforcement was permitted to submit data under the location of cyberspace.




11
All law enforcement agencies participating in the Hate Crime Statistics Program.


This table presents the number of offenses distributed by the offense type and reporting state.


The offense definition of rape, as well as the collection and presentation of rape data changed in 2013. See Changes to the Data Collection (https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2018/resource-pages/methodology#_Revision_to_the) in this Methodology section for more details.

Readers should take into consideration relevant factors in addition to the areas’ crime statistics when making any valid comparisons of crime among different locales. UCR Statistics: Their Proper Use (http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/ucr-statistics-their-proper-use) provides more details concerning the proper use of UCR statistics.




12
All law enforcement agencies participating in the Hate Crime Statistics Program.


This table presents the total number of participating agencies, the population represented, the number of agencies that submitted data about hate crime incidents, and the number of incidents reported.

For the 2018 population estimates used in this table, the FBI computed individual rates of growth from one year to the next for every city/town and county using 2010 decennial population counts and 2011 through 2017 population estimates from the U.S. Census Bureau. The rates of growth for each agency were averaged; that average was then applied and added to its 2017 Census population estimate to derive the agency’s 2018 population estimate.

Readers should take into consideration relevant factors in addition to the areas’ crime statistics when making any valid comparisons of crime among different locales. UCR Statistics: Their Proper Use (http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/ucr-statistics-their-proper-use) provides more details concerning the proper use of UCR statistics.




13
All law enforcement agencies that submitted one or more hate crime incidents to the Hate Crime Statistics Program.


This table presents the data from those agencies that reported one or more hate crime incidents occurred in their respective jurisdictions during one or more quarters in 2018. The data are distributed by bias motivation and quarter.

For the 2018 population estimates used in this table, the FBI computed individual rates of growth from one year to the next for every city/town and county using 2010 decennial population counts and 2011 through 2017 population estimates from the U.S. Census Bureau. The rates of growth for each agency were averaged; that average was then applied and added to its 2017 Census population estimate to derive the agency’s 2018 population estimate.

The population figures used for universities and colleges are student enrollments that were provided by the United States Department of Education for the 2017 school year, the most recent available. The enrollment figures include full-time and part-time students.

Blanks in any of the four columns under Number of incidents per quarter indicate that an agency did not submit a report for that particular quarter.
Readers should take into consideration relevant factors in addition to the areas’ crime statistics when making any valid comparisons of crime among different locales. UCR Statistics: Their Proper Use (http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/ucr-statistics-their-proper-use) provides more details concerning the proper use of UCR statistics.




14
All law enforcement agencies that reported no hate crime incidents occurred in their jurisdictions for any of the reporting periods for which the agencies submitted data to the Hate Crime Statistics Program.


This table lists the agencies that indicated no hate crime incidents occurred in their respective jurisdictions during the quarter(s) in 2018 for which they submitted reports.

For the 2018 population estimates used in this table, the FBI computed individual rates of growth from one year to the next for every city/town and county using 2010 decennial population counts and 2011 through 2017 population estimates from the U.S. Census Bureau. The rates of growth for each agency were averaged; that average was then applied and added to its 2017 Census population estimate to derive the agency’s 2018 population estimate.

The population figures used for universities and colleges are student enrollments that were provided by the United States Department of Education for the 2017 school year, the most recent available. The enrollment figures include full-time and part-time students.

Blanks in any of the four columns under Zero data per quarter indicate that an agency did not submit a report for that particular quarter.
Readers should take into consideration relevant factors in addition to the areas’ crime statistics when making any valid comparisons of crime among different locales. UCR Statistics: Their Proper Use (http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/ucr-statistics-their-proper-use) provides more details concerning the proper use of UCR statistics.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Hey fuckwit, do you think this might explain a sudden jump in 2018? DO YOU STATISTIC? DURP DURP DURP.

Addition of federal dataBeginning in 2018, federal (FBI) hate crime data were included in the publication.

[Taernath]

Yes. But it isn't the FBI stating that, it's AXIOS.

FBI published its annual report. Axios interpreted it. Not sure what the confusion is. You can hold the 2017 report next to the 2018 one and compare the numbers if you're having a hard time seeing what's going on.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

FBI published its annual report. Axios interpreted it. Not sure what the confusion is. You can hold the 2017 report next to the 2018 one and compare the numbers if you're having a hard time seeing what's going on.

Addition of federal data

Beginning in 2018, federal (FBI) hate crime data were included in the publication.

[Taernath]

Addition of federal data

Beginning in 2018, federal (FBI) hate crime data were included in the publication.

I have no idea what this is from or what your argument is.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I have no idea what this is from or what your argument is.

That's from the FBI's website you want me to compare 17 to 18 data from. You know, the one AXIOS interpreted?

[Taernath]

That's from the FBI's website you want me to compare 17 to 18 data from. You know, the one AXIOS interpreted?

Walk me through this. Is your argument that the FBI, which has been doing an annual report on hate crime statistics since 1996 (https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime), only began including data from itself in 2018?

[Methais]

Back being allowed to spread his stupidity is a hate crime.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Walk me through this. Is your argument that the FBI, which has been doing an annual report on hate crime statistics since 1996 (https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime), only began including data from itself in 2018?

Read this and get back to me.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/ucr-statistics-their-proper-use

[Tgo01]

https://www.axios.com/hate-crimes-fbi-report-high-violent-property-6f9b013a-e448-4bd5-a18d-4b4643710362.html

Hate crimes reach 16-year high according to FBI report

Hate crimes reached a 16-year high in 2018, according to the FBI's annual report.

By the numbers: Of 4,571 reported attacks the bureau tracked, aggravated assaults were up 4%, simple assaults up 15% and intimidation up 13%. The report also shows that assaults targeting Muslims, Arab Americans and African Americans have gone down, while violence against Latinos has risen.



The report says 485 hate crimes were reported against Latinos in 2018, compared to 43o in 2017.



270 hate crimes were reported against Muslims and Arab Americans — the lowest since 2014.



1,943 hate crimes were reported against African Americans — the lowest since 1992.


There was also a 37% rise in attacks against people with disabilities, and a 34% rise in attacks against transgender people.



Property crimes motivated by hate also fell.


Flashback: Hate crimes overall had spiked by 17% in 2017. More than half of the reported crimes had been motivated by race.

Between the lines: As noted by the New York Times, more than half the victims of hate crimes don't report the incident. State and local police forces are also not required to relay hate crime data to the FBI. Many don't even collect data on the issue.



87% of 16,039 law enforcement agencies that reported data said they had zero hate crimes in 2018.



No hate crimes were reported throughout the entire states of Alabama and Wyoming.


Why is this posted in this thread? Only right wingers commit hate crimes? You know there has been a spike in hate crimes against Jews committed by blacks and Muslims right? Oh yeah you read Huff Post and watch MSNBC, of course you don’t.

[Taernath]

Read this and get back to me.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/ucr-statistics-their-proper-use

I have. It has nothing to do with whatever it is you're trying to say.


The news media use the crime statistics provided by the UCR Program to inform the public about the state of crime as it compares to the national level.

That's from the link you posted and is literally what the Axios link that triggered you was doing. Interpreting data the FBI itself put out. Data the FBI has been putting out for 25 fucking years. That you could look at, if you were so inclined (you aren't).

[Back]

Why is this posted in this thread? Only right wingers commit hate crimes? You know there has been a spike in hate crimes against Jews committed by blacks and Muslims right? Oh yeah you read Huff Post and watch MSNBC, of course you don’t.

Its in this thread because this president talks a lot of shit and our Latino brothers and sisters get shot up at Walmart.

Source for your claim? I'll be happy to read it.

[Tgo01]

Its in this thread because this president talks a lot of shit and our Latino brothers and sisters get shot up at Walmart.

Source for your claim? I'll be happy to read it.

Latinos “brothers and sisters”, shut up. You ain’t black no matter how hard you try.

[Back]

Latinos “brothers and sisters”, shut up. You ain’t black no matter how hard you try.

We are all brothers and sisters, brother.

Source?

[Methais]

We are all brothers and sisters, brother.

Source?

Confirmed BacKKKlash is bigoted against non-binaries.

Racist.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I have. It has nothing to do with whatever it is you're trying to say.



That's from the link you posted and is literally what the Axios link that triggered you was doing. Interpreting data the FBI itself put out. Data the FBI has been putting out for 25 fucking years. That you could look at, if you were so inclined (you aren't).

you are right. I’ll teach you statistics another day.

[Tgo01]

We are all brothers and sisters, brother.

Source?

Oh you were serious about getting all of your news from MSNBC so you're in the dark about what's going on in our country.

Here you go.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/09/anti-semitic-hate-crime-spike-new-york-city-authorities-uninterested/


This is at odds with the evidence. None of the suspects in any of the New York City anti-Jewish crimes against persons had any previous arrests for hate crimes or any background in hate-related activities, organized or otherwise. Armin Rosen pointed out that these spurious suggestions were made “despite clear evidence that . . . many of the attacks are being carried out by people of color with no ties to the politics of white supremacy.” Indeed, in 2017 and 2018, 37 blacks compared with 46 whites were arrested for anti-Jewish hate crimes, the majority of which were for property vandalism and harassment — statistics consistent with national data.

[Tgo01]

Confirmed BacKKKlash is bigoted against non-binaries.

Racist.

How dare Back assume my gender and the gender of Latinos and Latinas.

[Taernath]

you are right. I’ll teach you statistics another day.

Hahaha, ok time4hobbitmage

[Back]

Why is this posted in this thread? Only right wingers commit hate crimes? You know there has been a spike in hate crimes against Jews committed by blacks and Muslims right? Oh yeah you read Huff Post and watch MSNBC, of course you don’t.

I read your source and it does not support this comment nor does it refute the FBI's reporting. Its laughable you even tried to use it to support your bogus claim.


Latinos “brothers and sisters”, shut up. You ain’t black no matter how hard you try.

Dude. Take a look at this statement. Read it again. Recall why you decided to type that out. Why is this the response you had to my previous statement expressing concern that our president says bad things about immigrants then innocent people were murdered in broad daylight going about their normal lives in America just because of their race? What emotion were you filled with? What caused that emotion? I ask because your response is pretty fucked up in many ways the least of which is not showing any sort of human compassion at all.

[Methais]

I read your source and it does not support this comment nor does it refute the FBI's reporting. Its laughable you even tried to use it to support your bogus claim.



Dude. Take a look at this statement. Read it again. Recall why you decided to type that out. Why is this the response you had to my previous statement expressing concern that our president says bad things about immigrants then innocent people were murdered in broad daylight going about their normal lives in America just because of their race? What emotion were you filled with? What caused that emotion? I ask because your response is pretty fucked up in many ways the least of which is not showing any sort of human compassion at all.

On a scale of 1-10, how smart do you consider yourself? Asking for a friend.

[Astray]

Its in this thread because this president talks a lot of shit and our Latino brothers and sisters get shot up at Walmart.

You are not Latino. You are as white as a whiteboard. They aren't your brothers and sisters, they are your excuse to wake up and go, "I'm gonna help the brown folk. They need it."

You fucking racist.

[Back]

You are not Latino. You are as white as a whiteboard. They aren't your brothers and sisters, they are your excuse to wake up and go, "I'm gonna help the brown folk. They need it."

You fucking racist.

Pretty twisted line of reasoning. You're fucked in the head, bro. You don't know me and you don't know shit. I'll stand up for any innocent people who are being gunned down in broad daylight going about their daily lives any where on this planet. Even you.

[Methais]

Pretty twisted line of reasoning. You're fucked in the head, bro. You don't know me and you don't know shit. I'll stand up for any innocent people who are being gunned down in broad daylight going about their daily lives any where on this planet. Even you.

I'm sure being a nonstop virtue signaling keyboard warrior will have a massive effect on this.

Keep up the good work buddy!

You're the best!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oomCIXGzsR0

[GSIV Rogue]

https://media.tenor.com/images/033eb48633a12dc564000195ae8eac34/tenor.gif

:popcorn:

[Back]

I'm sure being a nonstop virtue signaling keyboard warrior will have a massive effect on this.

Keep up the good work buddy!

You're the best!

Not wanting innocent people murdered in broad daylight going about their daily lives in America is just virtue signaling?

Ok, Mr Competitive Mortal Combat Player. Go play with your joystick or whatever you want to call it.

[Astray]

Pretty twisted line of reasoning. You're fucked in the head, bro. You don't know me and you don't know shit. I'll stand up for any innocent people who are being gunned down in broad daylight going about their daily lives any where on this planet. Even you.

I know you are using people of color to bolster your own identity because you have nothing else going for you. You pretend to give a shit. You pretend that the people afflicted by mass shootings are important to you but you just say shit to look good. You're human trash that thinks skin color darker than yours equates to "needing assistance".

You are a dogshit human being and you can take that attitude of "my brothers and sisters" back to Taco Bell where you fucking got it. The day I need you being a champion for me is the day I stop existing as a person and proceed to being worm food. You are not an ally, you are a detractor trying to feel good.

As a member of the Mexican community and the Native American community, I say this.

We don't fucking need you. Stay as far away from us as possible with your infantilizing bullshit attitude, you fucking racist.